Devious Devices SE

[blackkatt]

I'm afraid I'm new to all this. I feel the suggestion of patching devious devices ng over devious devices is exactly what I need to do I just don't know how to do this. Can someone help me?

[Spectre5342]

Having a strange issue with armbinder/elbowbinders where the players arms appear outside of them. I did run FNIS and bodyslide not sure what is causing this. Also Devious Devices Equip mcm isn't showing up so turned that off for now will consult its page for info on that suspect its a game version plugin version mismatch.

[Elsidia]

On 5/10/2025 at 4:49 PM, MadlySoldier said:

Is it possible to make a piece of device that works as multiple devices?

You can  made it as one piece of armor, configure keywords and object effect to works as multiple. you can write custom object  effect combined from existing in DD or write own effect.  You can write custom interactive menu and scripts to manipulated devices, define different keys to unlock  (example DCL devices from Damsel in distress) There is panel gag where you can take out plug part (i don't know how it works, but it feels that just part of gag is removed). Of course if you use this type of device it will block equipping the same type of device and it works in both sides. If you device is catsuit with plugs, it will not allow wear second plug. But if you wear a plug it will block equip your device, instead you write custom script to remove plugs and then equip device. Possible if there is attach points on device nifs (and there is function to manipulate a parts attached to it (like weapons in Fallout 4) you can made chastity belt what can open, close, take out, put in plugs. Anyway you can do it as remove previous device and equips new, but it will be visibly seen. And sound of equip will be there. And it will take more time to resolve scripts.

On 5/10/2025 at 4:49 PM, MadlySoldier said:

Is there any tutorial for using this mod framework? So

You can try look examples in DD and DCL. i don't know if there is tutorial.

[MadlySoldier]

Also another question, is it possible to make a gag that doesn't change the expression?

[Elsidia]

19 hours ago, MadlySoldier said:

Also another question, is it possible to make a gag that doesn't change the expression?

Need test, but you need  change objecteffect on gag. If you don't need block food, just remove it

If need need copy gag enchantment to your mod and from effect remove zad_effGag "Gag Script" [MGEF:1702B077] - it's apply a expression.

Not 100% sure this effect only change a expression.

[Addasus]

Possibly a stupid question, but did something change to put harder limits on the number of NPCs effected?

 

I ask because only two NPCs ever seem to get shocked by their piercings, or effected by the Devious Blank spells when I try to use them. If I give another follower the same kind of plug, they don't even equip it/give no text box. If I give them a different plug, they might generate a text box and equip it, but they won't be affected by the spell. And only the first two characters I gave piercings too ever seem to get shocked by them.

 

I remember being able to affect a wider array of people simultaneously before, so I was wondering if that had to be scaled back to make things more stable.

 

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

[MadlySoldier]

On 5/14/2025 at 12:27 PM, Elsidia said:

Need test, but you need  change objecteffect on gag. If you don't need block food, just remove it

If need need copy gag enchantment to your mod and from effect remove zad_effGag "Gag Script" [MGEF:1702B077] - it's apply a expression.

Not 100% sure this effect only change a expression.

Nvm, found a way for that... basically adding keyword zad_GagCustomExpression, andddddd no more expression change 

[threp]

Been fighting this for three days now and I'm stumped. Had to reinstall DD 5.2 into my formerly perfectly working LO thanks to a screw up on my part. (I'm on skyrim 1.5.9). Absolutely nothing else has changed.

 

Start a new game and the Events (vibration, pump bump, stuff like that) in the DD MCM do not appear. Full stop. Every event fails to register, according to the papyrus log.

Tried the usual - shutting off mods except for the needed to test and ... it's still like that.

 

Any ideas before I punt this laptop into the sun in frustration?

[safado]

6 hours ago, threp said:

Been fighting this for three days now and I'm stumped. Had to reinstall DD 5.2 into my formerly perfectly working LO thanks to a screw up on my part. (I'm on skyrim 1.5.9). Absolutely nothing else has changed.

 

Start a new game and the Events (vibration, pump bump, stuff like that) in the DD MCM do not appear. Full stop. Every event fails to register, according to the papyrus log.

Tried the usual - shutting off mods except for the needed to test and ... it's still like that.

 

Any ideas before I punt this laptop into the sun in frustration?

 

My problems with DD not loading are always tracked back to Sexlab preloading failing, or a mod dependent on sexlab messing it up.  Sometimes I fail to load the proper version of a mod resource like Jcontainers, breaking another mod that created a trainwrenk in papyrus, issues visible in a complex mod like DD instead of the real culprit.  Long ago, I discover that campfire was overwriting PapytusUtils SKSE dll with an ancient version that broke everything. Making sure framework mods load and win all conflicts is the first step before targeting the broken mod.

 

Spoiler

Try, opening with Fallrim Tools ReSaver multiple saves separated by time intervals during game start-up.  Look for what scripts are active, and script queue is decreasing or increasing with suspended scripts listed.  Have a save when everything looks aleegelyyy completed loading and look if the queue has a trainwrenk of suspended scripts or just a few (under 20).

 

If it has suspended scripts and maybe in the hundreds, some scripts are not completing, maybe because something is missing or a bug in one script bork the operation of anything after it.

 

Edited May 17, 2025 by safado

[threp]

Had a go at what you said. 

Had no suspended stacks/scripts at all in half my saves and only three or four in other. No orphan script instances, which surprised me.

I do have a problem on the game start where I can only save twice thanks the mod to set starting skills: It gets tempermental and CTDs if you make more than one or two saves before it runs.

Solved the problem temporarily by bumping my fUpdateBudgetMS and fSxtraTaskletBugetMS settings to 1.8 from the default in skyrim.ini then shifting POP, DDEquip (the mod, not the ancient Devious Devices component!), and SUM to my "load after I've started the game" group of mods than don't get ticked until I'm at whatever start I've picked in LAL. 

It seems to have worked for the moment, so I think it was just too much going on at once for my agmittedly somewhat elderly laptop to handle any more. Guess I am just at the hard limit of what my machine can handle.

 

Thank you for the advice - it helped a lot in solving the problem.

[Gudulba]

Inox devices (for example the padded bra) have a very nice looking chrome effect. However, in the reflection, one can see a static picture of Whiterun, which doesn't really make sense when being indoor for example -> see pictures in spoiler section.

 

Is there a way to replace the responsible "iDDeInox_e.dds" file with a "generic" one and still retain the chrome and mirror look?

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2025 by Gudulba

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, Gudulba said:

Inox devices (for example the padded bra) have a very nice looking chrome effect.

...aaand are not from this mod. They're from DD Equip.

[Sampon]

I would like a packaged version of this so that all the details and elements can be distinguished. What is DD and what is an Equip... attachment.

It is assumed that the translation also changed a detail related to the operation of the program.

Thus, this problem falls on the author, since he left an essential influencing factor free and either did not create an application for translating pex...

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, Sampon said:

What is DD and what is an Equip... attachment.

DD stands for Devious Devices (this mod with all 4 esp's) and DDE is a completely different mod which you don't need. It has some nice colour variants and some devices you don't get anywhere else, but yet another locking mechanism.

 

[Gudulba]

On 5/19/2025 at 1:00 PM, CaptainJ03 said:

...aaand are not from this mod. They're from DD Equip.

Ah ok thanks. I wasn't aware of that...

[MickeyC22]

Hi, Sorry to bother. I have been trying to get this running with side mods etc. but nothing is working? I have the slider, i have ran fnis got cbbe etc, enabled all the mods and the game runs, but there is just nothing, none of the mods are activating or appearing etc, What have i done wrong?

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, MickeyC22 said:

Hi, Sorry to bother. I have been trying to get this running with side mods etc. but nothing is working? I have the slider, i have ran fnis got cbbe etc, enabled all the mods and the game runs, but there is just nothing, none of the mods are activating or appearing etc, What have i done wrong?

I see you're new here, so welcome to LoversLab!

 

Getting Devious Devices running might take you a day or two, depending on your current setup and your expirience as a modder. (mod-user, that is)

 

Start with the basics: find out, which game version you're using - if you've just downloaded it, you'll be on AE 1.6.1170 - which means that you'll need mods that actually run on that setup, using the right dll and stuff. This mod won't run on its own on AE, but you'll need it anyway to get DD NG running.

First thing: get the right sexlab version and get that running. If it does, go to the landing page of any mod you want to install and read the instructions. If you have to read a lot: scroll down, read it. Every step you skip will be ten steps in debugging and wondering why things don't work.

(Installing Laura's Bondage Shop will probably be next week...)

[Inte]

On 5/20/2025 at 6:58 AM, CaptainJ03 said:

which you don't need.

This is misinformation, DDE is safe and effective, just ask your doctor.

[CaptainJ03]

2 hours ago, Inte said:

This is misinformation, DDE is safe and effective, just ask your doctor.

I never said it doesn't work, but it's got nothing to do with this mod. 

People need to learn to walk before they start running, which seems to be one of the main problems, regarding this thread. Oh, and maybe read instructions before asking for help.

[MickeyC22]

I honestly have no idea what I have done wrong. I followed every step, Though I admit I didnt understand what was meant by bodyslide. I ran body slide and just did bulk? is that what i did wrong?

 

[MickeyC22]

So just for clarification. I installed all the mods it told you to download. then I installed DD using mod organizer 2 for all of this. Then I ticked it to enable it. Then ran FNIS. I then ran bodyslide x64, i changed the preset to kink, then ticked everything in body slider and clicked batch build, saw all of the devices there, ticked all of them and clicked the cbbe version. then build. Then loaded up the game, saved and reloaded my save, and yeah nothing  

[zarantha]

7 hours ago, MickeyC22 said:

So just for clarification. I installed all the mods it told you to download. then I installed DD using mod organizer 2 for all of this. Then I ticked it to enable it. Then ran FNIS. I then ran bodyslide x64, i changed the preset to kink, then ticked everything in body slider and clicked batch build, saw all of the devices there, ticked all of them and clicked the cbbe version. then build. Then loaded up the game, saved and reloaded my save, and yeah nothing  

 

What do you mean by nothing???

No MCM?

No devices when you equip something?
Your game exploding?
Something else?

 

Look at the troubleshooting post for how to make sure bodyslide is configured correctly.

[MickeyC22]

Ooo i just had a massive breakthrough, so i was thinking maybe i just dont know how to check if the mod is working so i installed cursed loot and it stated that "devious devices intergration.esm should be active but is inactive, so it sounds like that is the mistake i have made. but the next question is, how do i do that? 

 

I am so sorry i am quite new to this clearly

[MickeyC22]

Never have I been so happy to see an error message. I have looked over old posts and can see there is a separate integration mod, but I cannot find one for special edition and for 5.2, where am I being dumb here?

 

Again I am so sorry lol

[lukesnell]

which option do i use if Im on 1.6.1170