Devious Devices SE

[serranna]

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but does anyone with any knowledge of modding have any concern over Bethesda breaking this family of mods with the Anniversary Edition? It seems they are going to patch SE as well which will break just about everything if you don;t turn off auto updates.

 

https://www.pcgamer.com/skyrims-anniversary-edition-update-might-be-more-disruptive-to-modding-than-expected/

[zarantha]

1 hour ago, serranna said:

Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but does anyone with any knowledge of modding have any concern over Bethesda breaking this family of mods with the Anniversary Edition? It seems they are going to patch SE as well which will break just about everything if you don;t turn off auto updates.

 

https://www.pcgamer.com/skyrims-anniversary-edition-update-might-be-more-disruptive-to-modding-than-expected/

 

It's not really a topic for discussion here, but it has been brought up on several mod threads including this one. Basically turn off updates as you mentioned and back up your exe and your esms and bsas. AE will be an update to SE.

 

It won't be compatible with anything that contains a DLL (which includes DD) until the SKSE team gets their hands on it and can start mapping the new addresses, then mod authors will be able to update their DLLs. At that point, either I'll learn how to compile the DLL for this mod, or some nice soul will come along and do it for us again. DD does provide the source code so it will be updated. It will be dependent on SexLab also getting updated.

 

It's going to be the same kind of deal we had going from LE to SE at the beginning, or the CC updates we've had periodically. So not really concerned, just annoyed. It will be a long while before everything catches up, and for mods whose mod authors have left the scene, those will probably need to be recreated (which takes even longer) unless they left the source code available. I wouldn't count on address library being able to bridge the gap here either. Basically, it will just take time.

 

What others are linking is this post by an skse team member:

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/q6czcc/pc_sse_an_important_psa_regarding_skyrim/

 

Edit: This kind of thing is why I have all my mods with DLLs in one section of MO. It makes it easier to go through to find out what will be broken in my list when an SKSE update is needed. If you don't have something similar, you should be able to filter by 'contains script extender plugins' to see what mods will be affected. Vortex should have a similar filter. NMM, you're out of luck on an easy method.

Edited October 16, 2021 by zarantha

[hopventure]

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, but has anyone modified the devices for Yiffy Age of Skyrim? It's been fun...but needless to say the gags don't exactly display correctly with the animal heads.
I was hoping I could find the meshes in Outfit Studio and try modifying them there, but apparently that's not an option.

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, hopventure said:

Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place, but has anyone modified the devices for Yiffy Age of Skyrim? It's been fun...but needless to say the gags don't exactly display correctly with the animal heads.
I was hoping I could find the meshes in Outfit Studio and try modifying them there, but apparently that's not an option.

 

No, Yiffy has not been done specifically. The closest you will get is choosing to install beast race refits (BRRF).

There are no bodyslides for the gags, so to edit them in outfit studio you need to import the mesh. When you're done editing, either export to nif or create a bodyslide project for it.

[Br4m]

Are there any Plans to make DD work with Nemesis consitently?

[Hanshurtig11]

I am not sure if its allready said, but the frontpage still links to Sexlab aroused redux LE wich, for me does not work on SE, at least not together with DD SE. regards and keep up your great work.

[zarantha]

5 hours ago, Br4m said:

Are there any Plans to make DD work with Nemesis consitently?

 

Since I don't know how to do animations, and I don't know what is broke, no. If someone is able to make them work consistently and provides the patch + permissions, I can add it.

Same deal for LE, Kimy will include animation patches with the author's permission, but editing is not in her wheelhouse.

 

All that said, it's been suggested that the culprit might actually have been the inclusion of Nemesis PCEA, so maybe if that's not present, it will work.

[zarantha]

23 minutes ago, Hanshurtig11 said:

I am not sure if its allready said, but the frontpage still links to Sexlab aroused redux LE wich, for me does not work on SE, at least not together with DD SE. regards and keep up your great work.

 

The entire frontpage is a copy/paste from LE, none of the links are updated for SE. That said, none of the things there are especially hard to find, and there's always the compatibility list if you have trouble. The important thing is to just know that's what is required.

[Hanshurtig11]

11 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

The entire frontpage is a copy/paste from LE, none of the links are updated for SE. That said, none of the things there are especially hard to find, and there's always the compatibility list if you have trouble. The important thing is to just know that's what is required.

Yes, noticed that later. At least i was able to find out Just started to switch from LE to SE, so i am a little new to this topic, and often read, that some LE mods work within SE.

So, the compatbility list looks very helpfull, thanks for the link. regards

[lacie_]

16 hours ago, Br4m said:

Are there any Plans to make DD work with Nemesis consitently?

 

I use Nemesis with DD and it works fine, I've heard people have problems getting Nemesis to play nice but I've just needed to run FNIS first (and then disable FNIS in the mod list, and enable the FNIS output from overwrite) before enabling and running Nemesis. But if you wanted to use DD with Nemesis and specifically without running FNIS I can't help

[YojimboRatchet]

6 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

 

I use Nemesis with DD and it works fine, I've heard people have problems getting Nemesis to play nice but I've just needed to run FNIS first (and then disable FNIS in the mod list, and enable the FNIS output from overwrite) before enabling and running Nemesis. But if you wanted to use DD with Nemesis and specifically without running FNIS I can't help

 

I wonder if this is a variation of this tutorial:

 

 

[zarantha]

I tried several tutorials, including the one on nemesis's github, but I just can't get them to play nicely  together. I usually end up with with my character being stiff and sliding around. Not quite the traditional t-pose, but the nemesis equivalent. I haven't made as much progress as others have, and to be honest I haven't tried very hard because nemesis lacks creature support. I might get a hair up my ass one day and try again, but there's very little motivation for me to switch. I suspect I'll need to tear down my list to find out what's breaking it hard for me.

[lacie_]

2 hours ago, zarantha said:

I tried several tutorials, including the one on nemesis's github, but I just can't get them to play nicely  together. I usually end up with with my character being stiff and sliding around. Not quite the traditional t-pose, but the nemesis equivalent. I haven't made as much progress as others have, and to be honest I haven't tried very hard because nemesis lacks creature support. I might get a hair up my ass one day and try again, but there's very little motivation for me to switch. I suspect I'll need to tear down my list to find out what's breaking it hard for me.

 

I think I've had problems in the past with getting them to play nice together and using EVG conditional idles if you're using that too, but more often than not I just end up locked into one of the conditional idles rather than the nemesis t pose. I was also having issues when having multiple DAR idle packs installed at once, but that's probably something I shouldn't have done in the first place. I think I also built animations in FNIS/Nemesis incorrectly when that happened so the DAR idles might not have been the culprit. Either way, the post someone linked in reply to my last comment has a good guide on getting it to work, it's the same as what I do just with some redundant steps so if you do decide to try again and haven't been doing things in the order listed there then hopefully you have better luck.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

Either way, the post someone linked in reply to my last comment has a good guide on getting it to work, it's the same as what I do just with some redundant steps so if you do decide to try again and haven't been doing things in the order listed there then hopefully you have better luck.

 

That guide looks familiar, so I have tried at some point. I'm fairly certain it's probably -something- in my load order with the shear number of mods i've got. Just don't have the time to track it down - once I'm done with updating bodyslides I'd like to actually play again.

[diabolin]

 

 

 

tem outro link

[frostysenpaii]

Anyone else getting this error on bodyside?  The error only occurs with DD installed.  Edit: This file appears to have no texture assigned to it.. hm.  It is the only one without a preview, and I tried doing a fresh install which did not work.

 

And when I try to open it to edit in bodyslider-

Edited October 20, 2021 by frostysenpaii

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, diabolin said:

 

tem outro link

 

You need to wait for your limit to reset. Or use the alternate link on the troubleshooting post.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-50-2020-11-26/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

[zarantha]

2 hours ago, frostysenpaii said:

Anyone else getting this error on bodyside?  The error only occurs with DD installed.  Edit: This file appears to have no texture assigned to it.. hm.  It is the only one without a preview, and I tried doing a fresh install which did not work.

 

And when I try to open it to edit in bodyslider-

 

There's two bodyslides for the khajiit chain harness. you can ignore that one or delete it.
The one with a space between harness and ( works. That one is one I thought I had completely deleted when I found it was a duplicate.

 

[frostysenpaii]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

There's two bodyslides for the khajiit chain harness. you can ignore that one or delete it.
The one with a space between harness and ( works. That one is one I thought I had completely deleted when I found it was a duplicate.

 

 

Interesting, I do not have a duplicate!  Hm.

 

 

Edit:  I actually found the duplicate!!!!  Lets see if this works!  It was under a different grouping!

Edit of the Edit: It worked.  Thank you so much

 

Edited October 20, 2021 by frostysenpaii

[harwester]

Found a incompatible mod with Devious Devices.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34175

No Enchantment Restriction Skse Remake

 

With that one most devices that gets equipped will get brokened. and the game thinks it not equipped.

Used a similar mod on the LE edition. And that worked.

[zarantha]

9 hours ago, harwester said:

Found a incompatible mod with Devious Devices.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34175

No Enchantment Restriction Skse Remake

 

With that one most devices that gets equipped will get brokened. and the game thinks it not equipped.

Used a similar mod on the LE edition. And that worked.

 

Known issue. It's been in the troubleshooting post forever. There's a ini or json edit you can do to make the mod compatible if you must have it.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/99700-devious-devices-se-50-2020-11-26/page/111/?tab=comments#comment-3077930

 

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, frostysenpaii said:

 

 

Edit:  I actually found the duplicate!!!!  Lets see if this works!  It was under a different grouping!

Edit of the Edit: It worked.  Thank you so much

 

 

 

Yeah, it's in a different group. that's how i messed up in the first place.

[no_way]

Turns out it was the base animations that are at fault, picking some of the other ones and there's no stutter.  FYI for anyone else with this issue.

Something afterward corrupted all possible future saves of my playthrough so I rage deleted everything though hah.

[nilead]

 I do appologise if question was covered, this topic is massive and searaching topics is kind of a pain on LL(

I found myself unable to completely disable animation filter that comes with the latest DD. Function to ignore it for creature animation works as intended, but humanoid animations still get filtered. despite bound animation option being unchecked. Is it supposed to only prevent searching for armbinder/yoke/etc animations?

 Or is it supposed to completely bypass filtering, including belt/plugs blocking, and something i run (Furniture framowork/Sl util+ as suspects) interfere with it?

[DonQuiWho]

These shackles were equipped by the 'Public Whore' mod

 

The console shows them as coming from Devious Devices Expansion

 

Like almost all the 'steel' items from Expansion, there seems to be something wrong with the textures, ie the items are all 'purple' and so the textures are presumably missing / in the wrong place / wrongly named etc

 

I have looked back through this thread and others have made the same comment, but the only suggested solution I found, ie to rinstall the mod, doesn't make any difference

 

Does anyone know how to fix this please? 

 

EDIT: In case it makes any difference, I do NOT have DCL installed in this particular game

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by donkeywho