framework Advanced Animation Framework

[Sulphur.999]

1 hour ago, Olmech said:

3. AAF Compatibility Patches: As I understand from reading the installation guide by Farrelle, the compatibility patch must include yet another mysterious male "equipment" package (See where I am going with this? Just all kinds of files seem to be required to properly allow males to participate in animations). I also understand that this patch has the 4P Proxy installed that actually handles the handoff from Fourplay. Do I understand that correctly?

 

You'll need to install this if you want to use fp mods with AAF. It installs the fourplay proxy. What that does is intercept fourplay animation calls and converts them to AAF and sends them there instead. The male "equipment" is also in this patch, you'll want to install that part too.

[Olmech]

2 hours ago, forgets said:

You do not need to download the actor type packages, they are now built into the options in the fomod. They have nothing to do with male equipment--they tell AAF what types of actors (humans, ghouls, synths, super mutants, etc.) that you want AAF to be aware of for animations.

 

I was of the impression that you only need the Four-play proxy in the AAF Compatibility patch, but I would defer to someone with more experience on this subject...

Yes, the compatibility patch includes the male EVB body (AAF is not compatible with Dongs of Fallout) and the Fourplay proxy. You install what you need.

 

The installation guide is actually obsolete, but it is being re-written. The correct install order is:

 

F4SE+LooksMenu -> AAF -> AAF Compatibility Patch -> Leito/Crazy Animations if you want them -> Polistiros AAF Patches if needed -> Any other animation packs you want.

 

I don't know enough about 4P to give you any instructions about anything related to it, maybe someone else here can help you...

Thank you so much.

[Olmech]

1 hour ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

You'll need to install this if you want to use fp mods with AAF. It installs the fourplay proxy. What that does is intercept fourplay animation calls and converts them to AAF and sends them there instead. The male "equipment" is also in this patch, you'll want to install that part too.

Thank you for your reply. Does the compatibility patch also include the other races such as Supermutants, Deathclaws and Ghouls etc? From what you and @forgets say, I dont really need to bother with installing creature stuff for animation packs like Mutated Lust, correct?

[maxpgm]

Hello, i'm having a problem using AAF, i tried to use with dave pose and some other pose from nm but it doesn't work on my character, on other npc it work fine but when i'm using it on my char, it's goes invisible cannot see my char at all, any suggestions? thanks

[VonHelton]

2 hours ago, maxpgm said:

Hello, i'm having a problem using AAF, i tried to use with dave pose and some other pose from nm but it doesn't work on my character, on other npc it work fine but when i'm using it on my char, it's goes invisible cannot see my char at all, any suggestions? thanks

Try Dave Pose at the top of your load order, and AAF dead last in your load order & see if that helps.

 

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[forgets]

4 hours ago, Olmech said:

Thank you for your reply. Does the compatibility patch also include the other races such as Supermutants, Deathclaws and Ghouls etc? From what you and @forgets say, I dont really need to bother with installing creature stuff for animation packs like Mutated Lust, correct?

The actor type options are all in the fomod installer for AAF that you download from the Nexus. Feral ghouls and deathclaws are creatures, so yeah depending on what you personally want to animate you might want to enable creatures.

1 hour ago, VonHelton said:

Try Dave Pose at the top of your load order, and AAF dead last in your load order & see if that helps.

AAF is an esm, dude. You can't put it at the bottom of your load order...

[Sulphur.999]

4 hours ago, Olmech said:

Thank you for your reply. Does the compatibility patch also include the other races such as Supermutants, Deathclaws and Ghouls etc? From what you and @forgets say, I dont really need to bother with installing creature stuff for animation packs like Mutated Lust, correct?

It does include supermutants. You'll need another mod for ghouls. Additional Body Textures. Sorry, I don't have a link to that one. Should be in the downloads area somewhere. That will take care of normal ghouls. Not sure about ferals. You'll need something else for deathclaws. Not sure on that one. I don't chase those things, they chase me. As far as I'm aware there is no package for synths. Humans, ghouls, and super mutants will be found by the wizard as is. To find the others you'll need to add their race type during the AAF install.

[forgets]

17 minutes ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

It does include supermutants. You'll need another mod for ghouls. Additional Body Textures. Sorry, I don't have a link to that one. Should be in the downloads area somewhere. That will take care of normal ghouls. Not sure about ferals. You'll need something else for deathclaws. Not sure on that one. I don't chase those things, they chase me. As far as I'm aware there is no package for synths. Humans, ghouls, and super mutants will be found by the wizard as is. To find the others you'll need to add their race type during the AAF install.

Dicks for feral ghouls and deathclaws are linked on the Mutated Lust page. If you are installing the CBBE/EVB body for ghouls, you'll want to install it before the AAFCP.

 

It would be cool if Vioxis' strap-ons mod could be used on synths...I asked in the thread if there was a way to put one on Nick Valentine but never got a response.

[Olmech]

Thank you very much @forgets and @Sulphur.4724. You both have been most helpful.

[forgets]

8 hours ago, maxpgm said:

Hello, i'm having a problem using AAF, i tried to use with dave pose and some other pose from nm but it doesn't work on my character, on other npc it work fine but when i'm using it on my char, it's goes invisible cannot see my char at all, any suggestions? thanks

I dunno, that's a weird hiccup...did you install any male body replacers other than the male EVB? I would try the old 'uninstall absolutely everything AAF-related, reinstall everything and start from a clean save or new game' method, see if that fixes it.

 

2 hours ago, Olmech said:

Thank you very much @forgets and @Sulphur.4724. You both have been most helpful.

Anytime, friend.

[VonHelton]

6 hours ago, forgets said:

AAF is an esm, dude. You can't put it at the bottom of your load order...

Oh shit, that's right! My bad.

 

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[RitualClarity]

6 hours ago, forgets said:

It would be cool if Vioxis' strap-ons mod could be used on synths...I asked in the thread if there was a way to put one on Nick Valentine but never got a response.

Give it time... it would make sense... (especially if Nick has the same skeleton etc as the rest of the Gen 2 synths)  Really any strap on would work in theory since they naturally don't have a penis... Perhaps if Vioxis can't or won't someone else will. I am positive there are some that would love .. got get some loving from Nick

 

[forgets]

18 minutes ago, RitualClarity said:

Give it time... it would make sense... (especially if Nick has the same skeleton etc as the rest of the Gen 2 synths)  Really any strap on would work in theory since they naturally don't have a penis... Perhaps if Vioxis can't or won't someone else will. I am positive there are some that would love .. got get some loving from Nick

 

I posted it on the 5th...but yeah, maybe someone will respond one day.

 

I'm pretty sure Nick has a human skeleton. Dunno about Gen 1 & 2s, but you would assume at least Gen 2s would be the same. I'd have to pull up FO4Edit and look which I am far too lazy to do right now...after supper maybe. ?

41 minutes ago, VonHelton said:

Oh shit, that's right! My bad.

 

Heh, brains have to fart too! It's only natural.

[maxpgm]

2 hours ago, forgets said:

I dunno, that's a weird hiccup...did you install any male body replacers other than the male EVB? I would try the old 'uninstall absolutely everything AAF-related, reinstall everything and start from a clean save or new game' method, see if that fixes it.

 

Anytime, friend.

Thanks for reply, and yes i did tried it but problem still exist, and no there is no any body replacer at all, just only cbbe and fsm. 

 

[forgets]

1 hour ago, maxpgm said:

Thanks for reply, and yes i did tried it but problem still exist, and no there is no any body replacer at all, just only cbbe and fsm. 

 

Don't know what to tell you then. Only time I ever had my character disappear was when there was something wrong with the fly camera...the problem just went away the next time I updated AAF so I dunno what it was, really.

[Vuulgar]

Hiya, the quest bug is wearing me out, i am curious when the new version with the fix is going public? Thank you.

[Detrax]

Please help. How set gender to someone? for example if I want AAF recognize Sturges as female? or every human as female? or anything... How AAF recognize gender in first place? Doesn't seems like keywords do anything.

[Sulphur.999]

3 minutes ago, Detrax said:

Please help. How set gender to someone? for example if I want AAF recognize Sturges as female? or every human as female? or anything... How AAF recognize gender in first place? Doesn't seems like keywords do anything.

In your data folder there is an AAF folder with the aaf settings xmls. In the one names AAF_settings.xml you can tell AAF to ignore gender. That's the only manipulation available for gender that I know of right now. Dagobaking is working on adding tagging, etc. but it ain't there yet.

 

 

[Sulphur.999]

17 minutes ago, Vuulgar said:

Hiya, the quest bug is wearing me out, i am curious when the new version with the fix is going public? Thank you.

No idea unfortunately. A couple of weeks ago dago told everyone that his real life was gonna have to be prioritized for a while. Since then his updates have slowed down. All I can say for sure is that when he does release it there will be much rejoicing. 

[forgets]

34 minutes ago, Vuulgar said:

Hiya, the quest bug is wearing me out, i am curious when the new version with the fix is going public? Thank you.

Dagobaking said it would be this coming week. So should be just a few more days.

 

14 minutes ago, Sulphur.4724 said:

No idea unfortunately. A couple of weeks ago dago told everyone that his real life was gonna have to be prioritized for a while. Since then his updates have slowed down. All I can say for sure is that when he does release it there will be much rejoicing.  

The frequent updates are all on Discord, where active development has migrated. You can make a donation on Patreon to have access.

[Sulphur.999]

5 minutes ago, forgets said:

Dagobaking said it would be this coming week. So should be just a few more days.

 

The frequent updates are all on Discord, where active development has migrated. You can make a donation on Patreon to have access.

I do actually. That's how I know there will be much rejoicing. I can't seem to link it to Discord tho.

[forgets]

I made a flow chart of a basic install guide for AAF, since the current installation guide is obsolete. I figured something more visual would be better for people whose first language is not English. But I'd like some feedback to make sure I've got everything right on it.

 

AAF Install Guide Draft.pdf

[Olmech]

18 minutes ago, forgets said:

I made a flow chart of a basic install guide for AAF, since the current installation guide is obsolete. I figured something more visual would be better for people whose first language is not English. But I'd like some feedback to make sure I've got everything right on it.

 

AAF Install Guide Draft.pdf

That is really superb. Well done!

[forgets]

1 hour ago, Olmech said:

That is really superb. Well done!

Aw, shucks. ?

[Rufgt]

1 hour ago, forgets said:

I made a flow chart of a basic install guide for AAF, since the current installation guide is obsolete. I figured something more visual would be better for people whose first language is not English. But I'd like some feedback to make sure I've got everything right on it.

 

AAF Install Guide Draft.pdf

I think the instructions for installing a male body should say, "Install an AAF-compatible male body with morph handling."