[AAF] Sexual Harassment (12/20/2024)

[eflat01]

14 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

Immortan Joe's breeders in Mad Max: Fury Road immediately come to mind.

I've never seen it but pretty much know the the context and content.

 

[Mistah F]

 

On 4/17/2023 at 6:13 PM, twistedtrebla said:

 

• If player is in power armor, NPCs will not slap the player's butt

Lawl, thanks, although the main problem I had with that was that the NPC was acting like he knew me before his official first player dialog interaction. How did he know there was a hot chick inside? I know I'm late responding to this, sorry.

I've actually been using this mod a lot since then, and been having a lot of fun with it. I've accepted concessions like manually disqualifying NPCs through the console, responding to approaches in discreet locations, and sometimes turning off the mod. I've also partly accepted not keeping a companion with me who would, characteristically, not stand around and allow me to be molested (or disabling approaches with one in tow).

Only partly, because I had some ideas for that which I still wanted to get off my chest:

1. Summon another crooked NPC to hold your companion, forcing your companion to watch. I think someone else in this thread had the same idea, and I think it's a good one - not just for immersion, but adding a new fetish as well.

2. Disable/Hide the companion. Maybe the molester makes an off-hand remark that one of HIS friends is keeping YOUR friend distracted, or your companion runs up after it's too late and mentions taking a wrong turn or otherwise getting lost. Maybe other times it's not too late, and the companion's timely arrival and intervention is effectively another flavor of a lucky escape from harassment - although I guess intervention would be a new mechanic instead of just added dialog.

3. Both. Either of the above has a chance to happen.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Mistah F
Double quote

[ETSubmariner]

edit: turns out I either missed Roggvir's Item Manager or it wasn't suggested. I saw one of the line items in the MCM in another mod mentioning it, and voila! LOTS of devices now!

 

I'm having troubles getting Devious Devices (RC9) to actually happen during approaches. The game says they were added but nothing ever appears on the character. Violate definitely adds some so I know DD integration is working, and I of course built them in bodyslide. I thought it might be duplicates, but in one instance the character had no other items on. My Harassment settings indicate to add them and quite a number if it wants, but . . . so far zero instances in a dozen or so events.

 

What might I check?

Edited August 23, 2023 by ETSubmariner

[vaultbait]

On 8/23/2023 at 4:08 PM, ETSubmariner said:

I'm having troubles getting Devious Devices (RC9) to actually happen during approaches. The game says they were added but nothing ever appears on the character. Violate definitely adds some so I know DD integration is working, and I of course built them in bodyslide. I thought it might be duplicates, but in one instance the character had no other items on. My Harassment settings indicate to add them and quite a number if it wants, but . . . so far zero instances in a dozen or so events.

 

Make sure you have the dependencies for RC9 installed. In particular make sure you have all its masters enabled (DLCNukaWorld.esm, DLCworkshop02.esm, TortureDevices.esm) and that you have the latest version of Torture Devices (2.21 at the time of writing).

[LynErso666]

On 8/12/2023 at 8:22 PM, UsernameTaken666 said:

AWKCR is outdated and horribly bloated. The RC 8 patch linked above removes that dependency. I personally removed AWKCR from my load order quite a while back. YMMV of course.

No it's not, have you not seen it's mod page in years or something??? It's last update was 3 years ago, which iz like the same age as 10,000 other amazing mods that still hold their function. Albeit, if you're not a control-freak with xEdit, you prolly wouldn't like it. I've patched maybe 300 mods in my current load order into its sick workbenches, and prolly edited everything about it, but I do with like every mod I download. Bloated, maybe, but like %99 of gun mods for F4 are bloated to me, all kinds of cell edits. There's always stuff that needs to be removed from a mod, but the libraries of keywords? Ooof, I never get tired of those, or the peaceful feeling you get when you drag it's changes to other mods that add new keywords and overwrite AWKCRs. It's so niiiiice! lol

[LynErso666]

On 8/24/2023 at 11:20 AM, vaultbait said:

 

Make sure you have the dependencies for RC9 installed. In particular make sure you have all its masters enabled (DLCNukaWorld.esm, DLCworkshop02.esm, TortureDevices.esm) and that you have the latest version of Torture Devices (2.21 at the time of writing).

I've always been up to date with its reqs and I still have never seen RC9 or 2.0 give me devices in scenes now that I've tried both. It's really strange. I'm realllllly starting to wonder if there's some fairly common mod some peeps use that somehow block the calls to equip and add devious devices to the PC, because any test playthrough I start with it always gives the same results: They're just devices in a shop and no mods seem to use them. Any mod trying always seems to think they're using them tho! lol Except for one. Violate gives me plugs and handcuffs, but DD, nope, every mod from here I use overlooks DD and uses any others. It's really really weird.

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, LynErso666 said:

I've always been up to date with its reqs and I still have never seen RC9 or 2.0 give me devices in scenes now that I've tried both. It's really strange. I'm realllllly starting to wonder if there's some fairly common mod some peeps use that somehow block the calls to equip and add devious devices to the PC, because any test playthrough I start with it always gives the same results: They're just devices in a shop and no mods seem to use them. Any mod trying always seems to think they're using them tho! lol Except for one. Violate gives me plugs and handcuffs, but DD, nope, every mod from here I use overlooks DD and uses any others. It's really really weird.

 

As another user noted recently, it seems Harassment's integration for Devious Devices depends on Roggvir's DD Items Manager to function. Many of us just install that out of habit, so it may go unnoticed as an implicit dependency.

[eflat01]

5 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

As another user noted recently, it seems Harassment's integration for Devious Devices depends on Roggvir's DD Items Manager to function. Many of us just install that out of habit, so it may go unnoticed as an implicit dependency.

 

I hope that is their issue...

 

Roggvir's DD Items Manager - if you want to use Devious Devices

 

Yes, Is on the mod's page, force of habit of mine is to make sure to install mods one at a time, starting with the required and optional mods, test it works then install the next, test and on through to the target mod I'm really interested in looking at. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by eflat01

[sen4mi]

15 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

I hope that is their issue...

 

Roggvir's DD Items Manager - if you want to use Devious Devices

 

Yes, Is on the mod's page, force of habit of mine is to make sure to install mods one at a time, starting with the required and optional mods, test it works then install the next, test and on through to the target mod I'm really interested in looking at. 

 

While that issue is spelled out clearly on the download page, currently, the link for DD is https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/ (where the file page points to version 5.2?) instead of https://www.loverslab.com/topic/73925-devious-devices/page/208/#comment-4159706

 

And I guess Kimy is active here, and maybe is not yet happy with the progress on these betas. But I am not wired into things well enough to understand how this should be playing out.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2023 by sen4mi
trying to unconfuse myself about dd versions

[snipers69]

it seems that the hypnoslave event is broken for me. Other aproaches seem to work fine. with full animation but the after evil hypnosis approach the npc just runs off leaving me standing there alone and naked

Edited August 29, 2023 by snipers69

[valcon767]

6 hours ago, snipers69 said:

it seems that the hypnoslave event is broken for me. Other aproaches seem to work fine. with full animation but the after evil hypnosis approach the npc just runs off leaving me standing there alone and naked

hmm couple of questions for you, and also did the npc say they were going to have sex with you ??

 

1 - is this the first Hypno approach ??  

2 - how susceptible are you to Hypnosis ??

3 - do you know the morality of the npc approaching you ?? 

 

1 - it takes a couple (few) approaches by the same npc before they will have sex with you

2 - this is actually separate from #1, but works with it to determine what can be done to you by an npc approaching you.  the more susceptible you are to hypnosis

     the more stuff the npc can do to you.  you can actually be fully susceptible to hypnosis and still it might be the 1st approach by that particular npc (which means

     that the npc will not do as much as they would after several approaches).  you can have multiple npcs who are working the hypno approaches with your pc, and

     each one can be at different stages of hypnosis with you.

3 - there are 3 morality levels (good =3, questionable=2, and evil=1) and Hypno approaches can occur with at least 2 of those moralities.  depending on the morality

     of the npc it will determine what they can (will) do to you.

 

also the npcs confidence level will affect what they can do to you (or try to).  the higher the confidence level the more likely they are to try something.

 

having said all that however if your approacher hypnotizes you, strips you, and says they will have sex with but does not there is (probably) an issue.

 

also you can open the console and select the npc, and use the getav commands to check morality and confidence, and if you want to change them

the setav commands also work.

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by valcon767

[snipers69]

11 hours ago, valcon767 said:

hmm couple of questions for you, and also did the npc say they were going to have sex with you ??

 

1 - is this the first Hypno approach ??  

2 - how susceptible are you to Hypnosis ??

3 - do you know the morality of the npc approaching you ?? 

 

 

 

0 - The dialogue said strip naked and bend over

1 - No

2 - Usually around 40 or 50

3 - Usualy set morality to all evil

4- its not that they wont its that it seems that they physically cant as if aaf is broken for this approach

[vaultbait]

32 minutes ago, snipers69 said:

its not that they wont its that it seems that they physically cant as if aaf is broken for this approach

 

Have you checked the log in the admin panel of AAF's on-screen interface after this occurs? It often contains clues when a mod tries and fails to set up a scene.

[snipers69]

I sem to have fixed it forr now, just downladed some more animations. So new question, what are the conditions for the sleep trigger in the flirt aproaches?

[vaultbait]

34 minutes ago, snipers69 said:

I sem to have fixed it forr now, just downladed some more animations. So new question, what are the conditions for the sleep trigger in the flirt aproaches?

 

Reach enough hypnosis points that you're susceptible to the trigger word, and then if an approacher says something like "I'd like to sleep with you" the scenario proceeds with you going into an agreeable hypnotic trance.

[eflat01]

21 hours ago, snipers69 said:

I sem to have fixed it forr now, just downladed some more animations. So new question, what are the conditions for the sleep trigger in the flirt aproaches?

20 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

Reach enough hypnosis points that you're susceptible to the trigger word, and then if an approacher says something like "I'd like to sleep with you" the scenario proceeds with you going into an agreeable hypnotic trance.

 

This mod does not trap aaf response on exceptions. It just seems to go on it's merry way from what I could see...  or maybe it's a switch in mcm to debug?

 

The first time I realized that was with a female collar master... she went to the gangbang dialog in the scene. I got a init 4 when the gangbang was invoked from SH but was surprised that SEU reported it via debug.notification. 

 

Issue was: I did not have "specifically" Female to Female gangbang animations defined among my xml files - I thought I had it covered with ungendered animations but this mod is specific - if a Female invokes a gangbang all selected npc participants will be F, and if a M all M... I never looked at what's being sent to aaf but it's apparent it will never select ungendered. Added my own FFF, FFFF, and FFFFF xml's at first but now use LXP's.

 

BTW... Thank you Vaultbait for your quick answer on import Bodygen the other day.

 

Anyway, When SH is loaded in CK it seems there's a place in the scenes where psc fragments are missing - to load, I'm assuming the case to be there were once fragments but they were dropped in order to add more dialog to the scenes and the author may had just forggoten to unselect the radio button in the dialog forms? I've counted the fragments pex and source/fragments/psc and they're equal... so really do not know for sure. I've checked the source paths and they look fine. It also loads the other fragments psc files. 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by eflat01

[twistedtrebla]

Some minor bug fixes, and more ways to trigger molestation. Now.. if I can figure out how to get rid of the occasional camera stutter....

 

By the way, thanks for reporting all the bugs. Due to limited time, I can't respond to each comment, but I try to read them all, especially bug reports (other than "my AAF animation wont play").

 

v1.19.0

• New: Molest attacks. When the player is in a "compromised state", molest attacks can now trigger if the player is alone (no NPC in line of sight). 
  • Compromised state is any of the following: 
    • Player is drunk or hammered. 
    • Player is mind broken (from orgasm)
    • Player is in low health (less than 10% health)
    • Player is naked
  • Having multiple compromised state increases the chance of attacks. Other things can also increase chance, like being a bimbo, or having bad sex reputation or NPC impression.
  • Has no dialogue and NPC goes straight to groping player. Can only happen if there is at least one NPC nearby that is evil (morality) with at least 60 "effective" confidence
  • Being in power armor prevents this from happening
• Added moan sound effect when player's arousal increases from hypno's uncontrollable arousal perk 
• Changed: Flirt and sex approaches now have additional dialogue when the approacher is a hypno master and player has "powerless to hypno" perk. Will usually trigger when the player tries to refuse sex.
• Changed: Resist cost penalty from bimbo serum increases for each bimbo level (1 lvl ~ 3 lvl -> 10 willpower ~ 30 willpower). Better get rid of that bimbo effect before it's too late!
• Changed: For Prostitute dialogue, player won't be able to refuse the NPC's counteroffer (for lower caps) if they previously couldn't resist (e.g. due to being too aroused) 
• Changed: Sex approach won't always trigger when player is naked - to give chance for other approaches/scenarios to happen, like molest attack
• Fixed notification spam whenever player was stripped from mod 
• Fixed bug for some post sex events not triggering correctly

[Aceforwin]

Thank you very much for your hard work, great mod ?

Edited August 31, 2023 by Aceforwin

[rubber_duck]

Thanks for the update, can't wait to give it a shot!

 

By the way, I've been wanting to ask for months now, but does SH support Devious Devices RC8?

 

Asking as I noticed that sometimes SH would equip certain devices which conflict with one another (as in the PC cannot wear both of them at the same time). Also, certain devices would get equipped but not really - I'd see them displaying as equipped in my inventory, but I wouldn't see them on my character and if I attempt to unequip them I can do so without any issues (like any other normal clothing/armor item; I wouldn't get offered the DD menu).

 

This issue is random, and I don't know whether it's my DD RC8 patch for biped slots or something else.

 

Any help/info is much appreciated, and keep up the great work!

[vaultbait]

On 8/31/2023 at 5:33 AM, twistedtrebla said:

New: Molest attacks. When the player is in a "compromised state", molest attacks can now trigger if the player is alone (no NPC in line of sight). 

 

I'm thrilled by this new feature, thanks!

 

Unfortunately, since it uses the same custom animations as the molestation sequences in other approaches, it doesn't really work well with super mutant approachers (even though it is now the most realistic kind of approach for a super mutant, no chitchat just taking what they want from you). @kziitd: At one point you had mentioned the possibility of making a version of the molestation animations with a super mutant aggressor instead of a human. Is that still something you're considering? Butt-slap animations for super mutants would also be great.

 

I love that Harassment makes it possible to allow super mutants as harassers, and would like to feature it more prominently in Milking Human Kindness, but the existing custom animated sequences would be better just skipped since they're made for a completely different skeleton and so look really weird when played on super mutants.

[izzyknows]

4 hours ago, vaultbait said:

Butt-slap animations for super mutants would also be great.

And would break your PC's hip! ?

[LynErso666]

On 8/26/2023 at 11:09 AM, vaultbait said:

 

As another user noted recently, it seems Harassment's integration for Devious Devices depends on Roggvir's DD Items Manager to function. Many of us just install that out of habit, so it may go unnoticed as an implicit dependency.

O thank u very much! I guess I'll have to get that and see what happens! Much appreciated!

[Gamaramdi]

4 hours ago, izzyknows said:

And would break your PC's hip! ?

She can take it!!! ?

[Gamaramdi]

Hum... btw, i just had a blackmail encounter, he raped my pc and there were no more talking about it, the guy was there but didnt gave me any other dialogue is that ok? it felt kind of unfinished...

[Lukum]

Would it be possible for companions to be targets of approaches? Would be immersive if they would also be harassed because now PC is constantly being harassed while the companion just awkwardly stands there.