[AAF] Sexual Harassment (12/20/2024)

[twistedtrebla]

3 hours ago, deathmorph said:

I have two questions about SH 1.18.0 and 1.18.1:

 

- does the price for the prostitution talk always remain the same? I mean the "value" of the actress. Have had multiple harassments now and the best price has always been 150 caps. 300 caps was not ok for the NPC. I would have thought the price would go up with the sexual experience.

 

- this message appears here since 1.18.0. The message makes no sense for a normal player, since the result is visible. Is it possible to disable the message somewhere?

 

 

The price is variable. The player has "market value" that depends on 3 factors: sex reputation, NPC's impression of the player, and player's current skimpy rating. NPC's morality can affect it too. Decent NPCs are less likely to try to lowball you.

It's explained in the patch notes.

 

I don't know what that message is.

[deathmorph]

12 minutes ago, twistedtrebla said:

I don't know what that message is.

 

Thanks for the info. Then my game was too young to notice a change.

The message only occurs when having sex in SH, but not in Violate, for example. In 1.17.x I didn't have this message. Hence my assumption that there is a connection.

 

I'm trying to find the cause of the message, if I'm wrong.

Edited April 10, 2023 by deathmorph

[deathmorph]

9 hours ago, twistedtrebla said:

I don't know what that message is.

 

I was wrong. The message also appeared in Violate, but I've only missed it so far. Sorry.

 

PS: I found the description here - I have no idea why I suddenly got the message. But I'm staying tuned.

Edited April 11, 2023 by deathmorph

[grumpyoldorc]

Hi there, first of all let me say a great big thank you for this mod. It is a permanent part of my mod list It is brilliant I love it and have played it for ages. However I have a bit of a problem...

It appears that every time I try to change a setting on the MISC page of the MCM it reverts back to defaults when I leave the page. Obviously it may well be the case that it simply reverts to default every time I look at the page. So should I just make my changes and trust that they are set, or have I missed something important!!! Most importantly on that page, will the chance for Bound In Public stick?

Thanks for trying to follow my rambling I will return to lurk mode now.

 

P.S> Sorry if this had been delt with before I did look back over the topic for quite a way a didn't see anything.

Edited April 11, 2023 by grumpyoldorc

[Oldwolf58]

14 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

I was wrong. The message also appeared in Violate, but I've only missed it so far. Sorry.

 

PS: I found the description here - I have no idea why I suddenly got the message. But I'm staying tuned.

From that description it sounds like someone in some mod has a debug set to on so that in game notification is appearing. I have it happening in my game also and would really like to find out which mod it is. I've gone thru all my mods and checked to make sure that all debugs are turned off yet this notification persists

[cadejocr]

Just comment my experience with1.18.1

I have to uninsall skimpy armor because no matter what , sexual harrasment looks me as a hooker and only prostitute sex aproaches triggers.  Also seems skimpy armor affects the blackmail because "i am naked".

 

 

[Krazyone]

Idea... Hypnosis Urges... Urge to wear highest sexiest clothing in inventory.  Tagged items, for certain locations, and situations.

 

Hypnotist wants you to look sexy, all the time, so he will implant needs into your head.

 

 

- Prostitute...   He wants you to dress in your most revealing items, when in town.

                            Auto-Switching stuff from your inventory automatically, when in certain locations. 

                                 Favouring Micro Mini Skirts, Low Cut Tops, Extreme Heels, Bikini's, Thongs,

                                     G-Strings. A fun randomiser, for Town Outfits...

 

- In Heat... He implants a suggestion, that you will get too hot, in certain locations, if dressed too modestly.

                       Saugus Ironworks, Coastal Areas, Swamps.

                          Cast off Full Clothing Tagged items, to cool down, with skimpy attire only.

                            Not carrying anything skimpy, prepare to go nude then.

 

- Swimming... Bikini Tagged only items, when swimming, or you swim in the nude.

 

- Bed Time... You can only sleep in Sleepwear Tagged items ( would need a new Tag ), or else naked. Blocks sleeping, or unequips all clothing.

 

 

Just some possible ideas... 

 

I've always been a big fan of the Hypnosis in this mod, it's a lot of fun...

Edited April 11, 2023 by Krazyone

[valcon767]

14 hours ago, cadejocr said:

Just comment my experience with1.18.1

I have to uninsall skimpy armor because no matter what , sexual harrasment looks me as a hooker and only prostitute sex aproaches triggers.  Also seems skimpy armor affects the blackmail because "i am naked".

 

 

 

i ran into a similar (maybe the exact same) problem a bit ago, what i did to fix it was

 

go into MCM - Misc page and set 

 

chest armor index - 8

chest armor index alternate -11

groin armor index - 3

groin armor index alternate - 15

 

if these are not set right it will not detect you wearing clothes.

https://falloutck.uesp.net/wiki/Biped_Slots  is the page i used to figure out what slots to tell it to look for.

 

hope the info helps

 

 

[adurvp28]

On 4/7/2023 at 1:50 PM, Rocketman5461138 said:

I'm having a strange issue I wasn't having before. The mod works as usual, but after playing for awhile approaches stop. I've utilized all debug options, and still nothing. If I load an older save, the mod works as normal again. But again, after playing for awhile, approaches stop. Any help is appreciated.

 

On 4/7/2023 at 2:48 PM, Rocketman5461138 said:

Yes, I get the notification, then nothing. Tried to debug force greet, notification then nothing

I have the exact same problem with approaches not happening not even buttslaps, dont know what to do to fix it  cause I  had one approach before reloading and it never happened again

[rubber_duck]

[BUG REPORT]

 

@twistedtrebla, I absolutely love your work! If you opened up a Patreon or something similar, you bet I'd support you and your work there. But for crying out loud, can't you do something about plain dumb logic behind blackmail approaches and the way scandalous material is created? Seriously, I love how you're expanding SH and integrating new stuff into it (BIP, SAKR, etc.), but this issue has been present for as long as I can remember (I started playing with SH back in 2019) and it wasn't addressed. Ever. I know I'm not the only user who's experiencing this as I've seen other people report the same issue.

 

At the start of every new game I always get Ivy to travel with me. After changing her appearance I make sure to set her morality to 3 (good), just to be sure. However, after a single AAF scene (Female Player + Ivy) I'm getting blackmail approaches despite playing the scene in an interior location with nobody else present. It's been driving me nuts for ages!

 

What's more, I just realized that Player has morality rating as well - upon checking Ivy's morality dozen of times (open console, click on her and entering 'getav fpsh_morality'), I simply couldn't tell what's the problem as her morality always reported '3.00'; and that's what I wanted it to be.

 

However, I then clicked on Player Character and entered getav fpsh_morality - and I got '1.00' which is Evil. Is it supposed be like that? I have since set Player's morality to '3' as well but don't know if that'd do anything as the damage's already been done.

 

On that note, is there a way I can view just how much scandalous material there is? Also, and if it's possible, how can I change its value (back to 0, as it should be)?

 

With all that said, don't think for a second that I have negative feelings towards you and/or your work - I surely don't. I'm just pointing out a problem that ruins the experience and all I'm asking is that you take a look and see what you can do. Fix existing features before adding new ones!

 

Take care and keep up the great work! Really looking forward to seeing what you'll create next!

 

[twistedtrebla]

4 minutes ago, rubber_duck said:

[BUG REPORT]

 

@twistedtrebla, I absolutely love your work! If you opened up a Patreon or something similar, you bet I'd support you and your work there. But for crying out loud, can't you do something about plain dumb logic behind blackmail approaches and the way scandalous material is created? Seriously, I love how you're expanding SH and integrating new stuff into it (BIP, SAKR, etc.), but this issue has been present for as long as I can remember (I started playing with SH back in 2019) and it wasn't addressed. Ever. I know I'm not the only user who's experiencing this as I've seen other people report the same issue.

 

At the start of every new game I always get Ivy to travel with me. After changing her appearance I make sure to set her morality to 3 (good), just to be sure. However, after a single AAF scene (Female Player + Ivy) I'm getting blackmail approaches despite playing the scene in an interior location with nobody else present. It's been driving me nuts for ages!

 

What's more, I just realized that Player has morality rating as well - upon checking Ivy's morality dozen of times (open console, click on her and entering 'getav fpsh_morality'), I simply couldn't tell what's the problem as her morality always reported '3.00'; and that's what I wanted it to be.

 

However, I then clicked on Player Character and entered getav fpsh_morality - and I got '1.00' which is Evil. Is it supposed be like that? I have since set Player's morality to '3' as well but don't know if that'd do anything as the damage's already been done.

 

On that note, is there a way I can view just how much scandalous material there is? Also, and if it's possible, how can I change its value (back to 0, as it should be)?

 

With all that said, don't think for a second that I have negative feelings towards you and/or your work - I surely don't. I'm just pointing out a problem that ruins the experience and all I'm asking is that you take a look and see what you can do. Fix existing features before adding new ones!

 

Take care and keep up the great work! Really looking forward to seeing what you'll create next!

 

 

FPSH_Value_NewAbomContentCount 
FPSH_Value_NewSexContentCount 
FPSH_Value_NewNudeContentCount 
FPSH_Value_ExistingAbomContentCount 
FPSH_Value_ExistingSexContentCount 
FPSH_Value_ExistingNudeContentCount 
FPSH_Value_ExistingHDContentCount 

 

in console:

help FPSH_value_new 3

 

"New" are ones that hasn't been used in a blackmail yet

"Existing" are ones that have been used already, and in circulation bc the player refused blackmail

[jdkzombie]

Something I have come to notice and wish there was a separate MCM controller for with this mod is individual controls for settlers and companions.

 

My female character is in a relationship with Preston (a heavily modified and handsomed the fuck up Preston btw) so there really is no reason he should be approaching my character and asking what her price is, or raping her, or coercing her into sexual acts.... maybe get mad about pictures, but it should be flirty and consensual acts only imho.  Same with settlers, it shouldn't be rape approaches, it should be fan/flirt etc.  Like I get the diamond city guard asking me my price or confronting with a pic before pounding Savannahs guts like Normandy beach on D day, but Preston shouldn't be raping her and giving her trauma.

 

Not to mention I wish there were better ways to offset the -4 Int slut debuff....like being a slut doesn't make you an imbecile....it just means you like getting fucked or doing the fucking.  I would think a slut would have more confidence maybe boosting charisma, while having another debuff to it.  But I think those stats are tied to Sex attributes and not something you can handle here.  I mean, one foray into a crap area and because with modded weapons sometimes enemies can down you in 2-3 hits, it's frustrating to get locked into a 5 minute long session of my girl getting used like a village doorknob, and then turn around and it all happens all over again because the enemy still hits like a mack truck.

 

Wish there was a fake your death option lol to use charisma or luck to try and fake your death so they don't hate rape you afterwards but maybe steal some stuff (not all, leave you at least 1 random weapon in your inventory and the ammo for it) and you wake up a few hours later (say from regaining conciousness from your wounds or something) you have the opportunity to track down your assailant and take them out for your stuff back with a more significant reward of spirit and willpower?  I know there's a similar feature already but I feel it could be fleshed out more.

[spicydoritos]

2 hours ago, rubber_duck said:

[BUG REPORT]

 

@twistedtrebla, I absolutely love your work! If you opened up a Patreon or something similar, you bet I'd support you and your work there. But for crying out loud, can't you do something about plain dumb logic behind blackmail approaches and the way scandalous material is created? Seriously, I love how you're expanding SH and integrating new stuff into it (BIP, SAKR, etc.), but this issue has been present for as long as I can remember (I started playing with SH back in 2019) and it wasn't addressed. Ever. I know I'm not the only user who's experiencing this as I've seen other people report the same issue.

 

At the start of every new game I always get Ivy to travel with me. After changing her appearance I make sure to set her morality to 3 (good), just to be sure. However, after a single AAF scene (Female Player + Ivy) I'm getting blackmail approaches despite playing the scene in an interior location with nobody else present. It's been driving me nuts for ages!

 

What's more, I just realized that Player has morality rating as well - upon checking Ivy's morality dozen of times (open console, click on her and entering 'getav fpsh_morality'), I simply couldn't tell what's the problem as her morality always reported '3.00'; and that's what I wanted it to be.

 

However, I then clicked on Player Character and entered getav fpsh_morality - and I got '1.00' which is Evil. Is it supposed be like that? I have since set Player's morality to '3' as well but don't know if that'd do anything as the damage's already been done.

 

On that note, is there a way I can view just how much scandalous material there is? Also, and if it's possible, how can I change its value (back to 0, as it should be)?

 

With all that said, don't think for a second that I have negative feelings towards you and/or your work - I surely don't. I'm just pointing out a problem that ruins the experience and all I'm asking is that you take a look and see what you can do. Fix existing features before adding new ones!

 

Take care and keep up the great work! Really looking forward to seeing what you'll create next!

 

 

Funny enough, I put some debug commands in my version of the FPSH_NPCHelper script to try and narrow down who was photographing me in those sort of edge cases.  TBH I thought it might be an issue with the isInFaction check for companions because that function can be finicky sometimes.

 

Lo and behold, my character is capable of photographing herself!  If her morality is 1, I can reliably repeat this feat.  Moral of the story: the FindEligibleEvilNpcs function just needs a line to disqualify PlayerRef when checking the nearby evil actors array.

 

Spoiler

 

[antoniut]

FindAllReferencesWithKeyword - ObjectReference - Creation Kit

Notes

• If wanting to grab all actors in the loaded area using the keywords, ActorTypeNPC or ActorTypeHuman, the player will also be added to the array as its race contains both of those keywords. If having the player be in the array is not intended, you can remove it via Find - Array and then Remove - Array:

Actor Player = Game.GetPlayer()
ObjectReference[] kActors = Player.FindAllReferencesWithKeyword(ActorTypeNPC, 2048.0)
 
int playerIndex = kActors.Find(Player as Actor)
kActors.Remove(playerIndex)

[Zen-Imogen]

did anyone experiencing this weird issue? I already disable NPC Approach but NPC still approaching me, I even went as far as reset all approaches, but still NPC annoyingly approaching me, it's hard since I want to sold some "prisoner with jobs". thank you before, I'm new to the forums so I don't know how to search a specific problems.

 

[vaultbait]

On 4/10/2023 at 12:46 PM, deathmorph said:

this message appears here since 1.18.0. The message makes no sense for a normal player, since the result is visible. Is it possible to disable the message somewhere?

 

 

It's a debug message that got accidentally left compiled into the AAF support script in the latest HHS release. Took me a while to track it down when I started noticing it, but the HHS author has been made aware and it will be fixed in the next release, whenever that happens.

 

In the meantime, you can get rid of it simply by recompiling that script from the source file if the message is really annoying you.

[vaultbait]

On 4/11/2023 at 10:10 AM, Oldwolf58 said:

From that description it sounds like someone in some mod has a debug set to on so that in game notification is appearing. I have it happening in my game also and would really like to find out which mod it is. I've gone thru all my mods and checked to make sure that all debugs are turned off yet this notification persists

 

Per my message above, it's from HHS. The reason it was hard to track down is that the notification isn't in the PSC source code file for the script, only in the precompiled PEX file.

[jbezorg]

Does SH disable the butt slap when the player is in Power Armor?

Had it happen twice strolling through DC wearing a Tesla T-60 PA suit. I do have Perverted Perks with the USB-V perk. Perhaps that has altered something that invalidates the PA check if there is one in SH.

[deathmorph]

On 4/14/2023 at 3:38 AM, vaultbait said:

It's a debug message that got accidentally left compiled into the AAF support script in the latest HHS release.

 

I installed Fallout 4 High Heels System 1.8.2 while dealing with the Mod Crackle. Because there the heels always sink into the ground. That's why I kept an eye out for reports at the time. This message didn't come up (I think, I would have noticed) and I therefore think that it can't be the only reason.

I only became aware of the message after this mod was updated to version SH 1.18.0 - whereby I expressly do not mean any connection with SH, but only want to clarify the point in time.

Edited April 16, 2023 by deathmorph

[sen4mi]

This is a mod integration idea which I would like to try.

 

The idea is that Hallucigen induces a state of combat fugue which uses up mental reserves, leaving the exposed player in a withdrawal state when the exposure ends.

 

Crude outline:

 

OnLocationChange() -- when entering Hallucigen, record the time. Optional: While in Hallucigen, agreeable dialog options are not available. (Disable SH approaches). When leaving Hallucigen, enable SH approaches (optional: only if they had been disabled on entry), and if the time is not zero, apply a penalty to various SA attributes based on the exposure time (like, maybe 6 willpower, 3 self esteem, 1 spirit per game hour inside). (Optional: apply this gradually, over time based on the duration inside.) Re-entering and re-leaving should add to the effect (instead of replacing the effect).

 

(Another vanilla integration which might be fun would be if the Memory Lounger would increase hypno level when used.)

 

 

[twistedtrebla]

11 hours ago, jbezorg said:

Does SH disable the butt slap when the player is in Power Armor?

Had it happen twice strolling through DC wearing a Tesla T-60 PA suit. I do have Perverted Perks with the USB-V perk. Perhaps that has altered something that invalidates the PA check if there is one in SH.

 

No right now there's no check for that. Probably makes sense to have it. I personally never play with power armor so any logic related to it never crosses my mind.

[vaultbait]

12 hours ago, deathmorph said:

 

I installed Fallout 4 High Heels System 1.8.2 while dealing with the Mod Crackle. Because there the heels always sink into the ground. That's why I kept an eye out for reports at the time. This message didn't come up (I think, I would have noticed) and I therefore think that it can't be the only reason.

I only became aware of the message after this mod was updated to version SH 1.18.0 - whereby I expressly do not mean any connection with SH, but only want to clarify the point in time.

 

See the report titled "Stray debug notification in 1.8.2 build of FO4HHS_AAF.pex" in the bugs list for HHS (I'm not sure how to link directly to specific bug reports on Nexus).

[Krazyone]

Feature Request... Blackmail Pictures.

 

When your Blackmailer leaves images around the Commonwealth, when you come across them. Instead of text, you have a picture that pops up, or group of pictures. In the form of an old Polaroid Photograph. With writing in the lower white area, about the picture.

 

Numbered Collectibles, like Magazines.

 

Free Template Download ... Here

 

This would allow modders to add their own pictures, with degrading writing in the white part at the bottom of the Polaroid Photo. There are Flash-Bulb Camera's lying around the Commonwealth, all over the place, so this is their current technology.

 

 

Derogatory Photograph Texts, on white part of photo's.

Possible Texts below photo's, that modders could add.

- Fine piece of Ass

- Wish you were Whore

- Check out Nora's Ass ... Sanctuary Settlement, look her up. Snap your fingers for Sex...

- Check out this fit bitches Tits, just ask her to show you them.

- The latest Prostitute in the Commonwealth, 5 Caps a fuck...

 

 

Requirements...

You'd only need 1 Photo, with Text below it. Like Magazines, the modders would make the rest.

 

 

I've always liked the Blackmail text, that come up when you rummage through Bins and stuff. People telling you about it, when out and about. Batches of photo's being released into the Commonwealth, after each Blackmail, would be fun.

Real Porn Pics, or Posed Screenshots.

 

Folders. for various Blackmailers...

Blackmail Folder 1 ........ 3 pics ......... Motorbike Slut

Blackmail Folder 2 ........ 6 pics ......... Wasted Bitch

Blackmail Folder 3 ........ 10 pics ...... New Whore in Sanctuary

Blackmail Folder 4 ........ 10 pics ...... Hypnotised and Horny

Etc...

 

Just an idea... 

Edited April 16, 2023 by Krazyone

[xyzxyz]

Where is the connection to "bound in public" ?

[jbezorg]

12 hours ago, twistedtrebla said:

 

No right now there's no check for that. Probably makes sense to have it. I personally never play with power armor so any logic related to it never crosses my mind.

 

Me too. I use a mod called Power Armor Training that requires you finding a perk manual to know how to use it so I have a RP reason why I don't ( I removed the manual from the players home in Sanctuary and it can also bug out the player's action points ). I also increased the drain on fusion cores making it impractical to wear constantly.

But, I found the manual and I brought a Tesla suit back to Hangman Alley settlement. Then, while out scaving for copper, ran into some Gunners and I ended up back at Hangman Alley naked.

Tesla suit
Gatling laser.
Payback 5 Fusion cores later.

While selling the Gunner's armor in DC wearing the suit the guards were slapping PA ass.