[AAF] Sexual Harassment (12/20/2024)

[Oldwolf58]

@twistedtrebla, just a suggestion. If you're looking for a way to judge the skimpiness of the clothing maybe add a global for top, bottom and maybe feet to judge footwear sexiness like high heels vs barefoot vs combat-boots, that have corresponding sliders in the MCM so the player can set the skimpiness of their attire. I believe you could use the current scripts just condition them so that they use the framework if installed else the global setting if no framework installed. I don't know about everyone else but I tend to stick with a favorite outfit during my game so if I changed it there wouldn't be any problem going into the MCM and changing those sliders to reflect the current outfit I'm wearing. Just and Idea.

[twistedtrebla]

1 hour ago, Oldwolf58 said:

@twistedtrebla, just a suggestion. If you're looking for a way to judge the skimpiness of the clothing maybe add a global for top, bottom and maybe feet to judge footwear sexiness like high heels vs barefoot vs combat-boots, that have corresponding sliders in the MCM so the player can set the skimpiness of their attire. I believe you could use the current scripts just condition them so that they use the framework if installed else the global setting if no framework installed. I don't know about everyone else but I tend to stick with a favorite outfit during my game so if I changed it there wouldn't be any problem going into the MCM and changing those sliders to reflect the current outfit I'm wearing. Just and Idea.

That already exists in SAKR

[kenbenis]

On 4/23/2018 at 2:10 PM, Randgríðr said:

Tried this mod for a few hours.

I like the basic idea behind it, and it's actually great, the approaches and stuff.

 

Buuuut, a major turn-off for me was the "super unimmersiveness" of this mod.

Got approached during gunfights, or while on a mission exploring some ruins, etc.

No one would do that.

 

I can imagine that it'd be really difficult to manage, but I shouldn't be approachable during certain missions, etc.

Maybe add a Hotkey (or favourable Item) to toggle "approachable-ness ".

 

If there's already a Hotkey, then I didn't saw it.

Literally already is a hotkey for it. Hotkey to turn mod off for compatbility with other mods e.g. JB's stuff, or when its not appropriate or you are just busy and don't want to be bothered.

 

@twistedtreblaamazing update, I love you've changed the sex approach to a prostitute type one worked in around the skimpy keywords. Its amazing, makes the mod perfect and fills that gap in prozzy mods where clients approach you instead of you running up to NPC spamming your business.

 

Can I make a suggestion for the next update though? I have a pet peeve about other modders who create new animation groups/positions, and they end up in AAF's pool of potential useable animations. Example - I have JB's commonwealth slavers mod, and SH is sometimes playing this animation from it:

 

 <position id="Slavers_Rimjob_Staged" animationGroup="Slavers_Rimjob_Group" tags="Hidden,SlaversRimjob"/>  

 

Its tagged as Hidden, but that just stops it being visible in the AAF api. Im guessing JB has not used ishidden=true on it for a reason. So would it be possible to modify your scripts in the relevant places with settings.excludeTags = "Hidden"  to stop SH from calling all these random animations that other mods throw in? Or if not the hidden tag, maybe some other new tag that would then easily allow an amateur to add tags to the offending animations. E.g. "FussyKen" was excludedin your scripts, I could then add "FussyKen" to whatever animation I want to stop it appearing. 

 

I hope you don't me asking. Love your mod.

Edited April 3, 2023 by kenbenis

[Slorm]

Many thanks for the update.

 

I'm currently on a break (having a run through of modded Cyberpunk and playing around with Wolvenkit) but I'm looking forward to trying the update once I'm back with FO4 in a week or two ?

Edited April 3, 2023 by Slorm

[N.Gamma]

Is there a setting to disable attempts by Npcs to apply Devious Device to the player?

For example, I had a case where an NPC tried to gag my character, but nothing happened because I didn't install Devious Devices.

[Oldwolf58]

16 hours ago, twistedtrebla said:

That already exists in SAKR

But SAKR's is dependent upon keywords for each piece of clothing. I'm just suggesting a global check that can be set period without the need to add keywords to each and every item of clothing in the game.

[twistedtrebla]

13 minutes ago, Oldwolf58 said:

But SAKR's is dependent upon keywords for each piece of clothing. I'm just suggesting a global check that can be set period without the need to add keywords to each and every item of clothing in the game.

That exists in SAKR. There's an override setting where you can use MCM to force the skimpy rating to be whatever you want, even when wearing clothes with no keyword

[izzyknows]

42 minutes ago, N.Gamma said:

Is there a setting to disable attempts by Npcs to apply Devious Device to the player?

For example, I had a case where an NPC tried to gag my character, but nothing happened because I didn't install Devious Devices.

Have a leisurely browse through the MCM. Take your time and uncover the not hidden settings.

[Oldwolf58]

@twistedtrebla ok got 1.18.0 working the normal approaches for hypno etc are working but I just got propositioned for prostitution and it failed to trigger an AAF scene. The line was something like: "hey you, you looking for a client? I'll pay you up front, lets go!" there was no dialogue for me to respond, then nothing, they walked off, no scene triggered and my character was free to continue what I was doing.

 

Oh and I am now using the override from SAKR but it still lists me as not exposed even though the override is set to 100 because I'm topless and the thong I'm wearing is a button thong from Absolutely skimpy attire which has cut outs in the thong for the pubic hair and pussy. It shows the skimpiness as 100 but exposure it says not exposed so I don't know what's up with that and if that has any effect on your checks.

[twistedtrebla]

31 minutes ago, Oldwolf58 said:

@twistedtrebla ok got 1.18.0 working the normal approaches for hypno etc are working but I just got propositioned for prostitution and it failed to trigger an AAF scene. The line was something like: "hey you, you looking for a client? I'll pay you up front, lets go!" there was no dialogue for me to respond, then nothing, they walked off, no scene triggered and my character was free to continue what I was doing.

 

Oh and I am now using the override from SAKR but it still lists me as not exposed even though the override is set to 100 because I'm topless and the thong I'm wearing is a button thong from Absolutely skimpy attire which has cut outs in the thong for the pubic hair and pussy. It shows the skimpiness as 100 but exposure it says not exposed so I don't know what's up with that and if that has any effect on your checks.

 

Try on a new save. Looks like something got corrupted.

 

You did enable the override, right? The code is simple, it uses the override value if enabled

    if sakr_setting_overrideValues.getValue() == 1 
		lowerValue = sakr_setting_overrideValueLower.getValueInt()
	else 
		lowerValue = sakr_val_skimpyRatingLowerBody.getValueInt()
	endif

	return lowerValue == 100

 

[Joe_Oni]

So if I go to debug in the SAKR and set the overrides to 0. I won't get the "naked" approaches?.   I updated SH and even though I had set the clothing slots to -1. I was constantly getting the prostitute approaches with some asa pieces, chaps and full armor pieces and zero rep.  Shot quite a few settlers and DC guards  after hearing their response after telling them to sod off.

 

Can't say I like having to add another mod mid game to see if it fixes my issues. Maybe I should just revert to an older SH.

 

[Oldwolf58]

@twistedtrebla New game same problem, prostitution approaches don't lead to an AAF scene. Just had the approach from Trudy and she went through the line of: "hey you, you looking for a client, come on I'll pay you up front." Then she runs back to her counter and that's it. Nothing.

[izzyknows]

21 minutes ago, Oldwolf58 said:

@twistedtrebla New game same problem, prostitution approaches don't lead to an AAF scene. Just had the approach from Trudy and she went through the line of: "hey you, you looking for a client, come on I'll pay you up front." Then she runs back to her counter and that's it. Nothing.

You might want to go back and check your adult setup. And maybe even mess with the load order.. who knows. But also check the AAF log for errors at the time of the approach.

All the approaches work fine for me, and I've got a very old setup, but it uses the newest animations.

[kenbenis]

@twistedtreblaI had a go at editing the script myself as I talked about before, but I'm really getting stuck and wondered if you could help.

 

EDIT -  never mind, I think I did it. I was putting exclude.tags near the start of the function, but there was another exclude tags below it that I think was overwriting it. Needs more testing but I think its working like a charm, no more annoying piecemeal animations!

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2023 by kenbenis

[Oldwolf58]

5 hours ago, izzyknows said:

You might want to go back and check your adult setup. And maybe even mess with the load order.. who knows. But also check the AAF log for errors at the time of the approach.

All the approaches work fine for me, and I've got a very old setup, but it uses the newest animations.

My setup is fine AAF log only shows the incorrect milliseconds settings for a couple of the older animations and everything else in SH works fine. It's only the prostitution approaches  that aren't working. That tells me that somehow SH isn't sending an AAF scene call from the prostitution dialogue, actually it's not a dialogue since my character has nothing to say it's only a statement from the approacher.

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, Oldwolf58 said:

My setup is fine AAF log only shows the incorrect milliseconds settings for a couple of the older animations and everything else in SH works fine. It's only the prostitution approaches  that aren't working. That tells me that somehow SH isn't sending an AAF scene call from the prostitution dialogue, actually it's not a dialogue since my character has nothing to say it's only a statement from the approacher.

aahh! So the dialogue is getting interrupted. There should be 4 or 5 interactions before AAF is called. I've only seen that happen because of SH being VERY combat sensitive, which is fine but can be annoying. LOL

 

So you need to look for something that is canceling the dialogue.

[vaultbait]

3 hours ago, izzyknows said:

aahh! So the dialogue is getting interrupted. There should be 4 or 5 interactions before AAF is called. I've only seen that happen because of SH being VERY combat sensitive, which is fine but can be annoying. LOL

 

So you need to look for something that is canceling the dialogue.

 

I've also had Autonomy Enhanced steal harassers out of dialogue with the player, possibly due to script lag, but more likely it just doesn't know that the actor is already busy.

[izzyknows]

2 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

I've also had Autonomy Enhanced steal harassers out of dialogue with the player, possibly due to script lag, but more likely it just doesn't know that the actor is already busy.

What happens for me is, an enemy will be close enough to aggro but it might be on a turret or companion but not the PC, but since it shows as hostile SH kills all dialogue/approaches.  Which ion a way is a good thing because you're not being approached in the middle of a fight. But also annoying when a turret takes them out before they even get close enough to fight. But still.. I'd rather have it like it is.

[Tanglin]

11 hours ago, Oldwolf58 said:

My setup is fine AAF log only shows the incorrect milliseconds settings for a couple of the older animations and everything else in SH works fine. It's only the prostitution approaches  that aren't working. That tells me that somehow SH isn't sending an AAF scene call from the prostitution dialogue, actually it's not a dialogue since my character has nothing to say it's only a statement from the approacher.

 

I've had prostitution work as intended. It happened as explained by twistedtrebla - I asked for too high a price, I was then offered a low counter-offer. After the AFF animation, I reloaded and this time, asked for a lower price and was given that amount, and then the animation played as well.

 

The dialogues can get messed up if there's combat happening, or some other mod is interfering. It can be a pain to troubleshoot, but the prostitution approach works if you've got everything correctly set up.

[sophiextime]

Hi! i have a issue i cant seem to resolve and need some advice. I got collared during a attack sex scene and in my MCM i had Collar approaches on but at a low chance. Now i seem to be getting always hit on for collar sex.. so i turned off Collar approaches in the MCM and dropped all sliders to zero in the collar section BUT i am still constantly getting hit on for collar sex! . How do i stop them? its over ruling any chance of any other type of approach. Sometimes rarely i get a blackmail approach or a flirt but 90% of the time its constant collar approaches.  also i set the cost for remove of collar low ( 1000) i think. But the dude in Diamond city keeps asking for 5000caps! so i am stuck with a collar on that i cant afford to remove  HELP! 

 

[IBAGadget]

@sophiextime player.additem F 5000

 

That will get you started

 

I've never been collared, so I'm not sure what could be causing your issue.

[Slorm]

2 hours ago, sophiextime said:

Hi! i have a issue i cant seem to resolve and need some advice. I got collared during a attack sex scene and in my MCM i had Collar approaches on but at a low chance. Now i seem to be getting always hit on for collar sex.. so i turned off Collar approaches in the MCM and dropped all sliders to zero in the collar section BUT i am still constantly getting hit on for collar sex! . How do i stop them? its over ruling any chance of any other type of approach. Sometimes rarely i get a blackmail approach or a flirt but 90% of the time its constant collar approaches.  also i set the cost for remove of collar low ( 1000) i think. But the dude in Diamond city keeps asking for 5000caps! so i am stuck with a collar on that i cant afford to remove  HELP! 

 

 

The 5000 is set in the dialogue so doesn't change if you drop the cost to remove the collar. It still leaves you the option to remove it at the price you've set in the MCM so ignore the 5000 and it will remove the amount you have set (the same applies to the tattoo remover NPC as well)

 

N.B. Haven't tested on the latest version but I assume it hasn't changed from v1.17.4

Edited April 5, 2023 by Slorm

[shortiron]

4 hours ago, sophiextime said:

Hi! i have a issue i cant seem to resolve and need some advice. I got collared during a attack sex scene and in my MCM i had Collar approaches on but at a low chance. Now i seem to be getting always hit on for collar sex.. so i turned off Collar approaches in the MCM and dropped all sliders to zero in the collar section BUT i am still constantly getting hit on for collar sex! . How do i stop them? its over ruling any chance of any other type of approach. Sometimes rarely i get a blackmail approach or a flirt but 90% of the time its constant collar approaches.  also i set the cost for remove of collar low ( 1000) i think. But the dude in Diamond city keeps asking for 5000caps! so i am stuck with a collar on that i cant afford to remove  HELP! 

 

try "Reset All Approaches" in SH Debug MCM. or turn it off first before changing your settings, then turn it on again. i once had similar situation with Fan Approaches. even though my pc was naked, npcs kept approaching me as fans because i changed the approach chance setting higher than the default.

[Oldwolf58]

12 hours ago, izzyknows said:

What happens for me is, an enemy will be close enough to aggro but it might be on a turret or companion but not the PC, but since it shows as hostile SH kills all dialogue/approaches.  Which ion a way is a good thing because you're not being approached in the middle of a fight. But also annoying when a turret takes them out before they even get close enough to fight. But still.. I'd rather have it like it is.

That doesn't fly in this case since I stood at the Drumlin Diner and both Trudy and her son did approaches for hypno and fan and they played all the way thru with completed sex but while still in the same place every approach for prostitution failed. There was NO discussion for price they simply said a line like: "Hey you, you looking for a client, I'll pay you up front, lets go."  and that was the end of it, no dialogue wheel for me to respond to anything. Then they go back to what they were doing. I've moved SH all over the load order and disabled every mod that could possibly interfere with dialogues and nothing, still bugs out so I'm at a loss. And yes I re-installed it and even re-downloaded and re-installed it.

[jdkzombie]

Not sure if it is from this or Sex Attributes, but after being propositioned while wearing a gag and collar, my character wont move. I cannot walk run, crouch, do anything but pan the camera around and I am just standing in the middle of diamond City market....still clothed...