SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b - 01/18/2024

[Wolf470]

just gunna note that the AE update (that doesn't require AE to be bought) broke SexLabUtil.dll (which means Sexlab won't work)  The SKSE programmers put out a quick patch that depends on the mod authors to fix the DLL's that are not working... Fixing the SexLabUtil.dll will for now allow SexLab to work (presumably)  Yes we can downgrade but that is a temporary solution for those of us that have many games on STEAM and intend to keep playing them.

 

Edit: and before you tell me that I didn't read the posts or anything like that.... I've been away from Skyrim for 18 months (I don't keep every game I own on my computer 24/7)

Edited November 15, 2021 by Wolf470

[Ashal]

It's going to be at least a week or so before I can update stuff for AE. I've got the hard parts of the update done already, but waiting on changes and non-preliminary build of SKSE first.

[kyshandria]

1 hour ago, Ramien said:

I don't see why not, since they've already got Ostim/Osex on there...

It's Nexus, they ban things from their site because of what they had for lunch that day.

 

[Wolf470]

58 minutes ago, Ashal said:

It's going to be at least a week or so before I can update stuff for AE. I've got the hard parts of the update done already, but waiting on changes and non-preliminary build of SKSE first.

Take your time boss... Anybody working on mods has my utmost respect...

[Vyxenne]

On 11/13/2021 at 9:11 AM, Leavira said:

That does only work for win 10 though, if you stayed on 7 you'er out of luck.

Are you sure of this? I was on Windows 7 four years ago the first time I reverted my SSE game (from 1.5.24 back to 1.5.16) using the Depot and Manifest IDs in the Steam Console- exactly the same as I would do it today on my Windows 10 machine if I hadn't been blocking updates for the past 4 years.

[Vyxenne]

22 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

 

To prevent Skyrim SE from getting updates, you can disable Steam Cloud for the game, shut down Steam, rename/move/delete the appmanifest_489830.acf from Valve\Steam\steamapps\, Start Steam again.  Skyrim SE should appear uninstalled now.  Use the SKSE64 launcher to start the game from now on (make sure Steam is running 1st) and you'll never have to worry about the game being updated ever again.

 

As for restoring, you can use the Steam Console or https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader to download everything.  You'll need an extra step to get the German specific parts, but it is all achievable.  https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1086279994 has an in depth explanation how the Steam Console restore method works (though the example isn't Skyrim).  You can use the SteamDB - https://steamdb.info/app/489830/ to figure out which manifests you'll need to reference in the commands.

This is brilliant and concise, and needs to be stickied where it doesn't get buried- it applies to all SSE players on PC, not just SLF users. I'm copying the link so I can refer ppl who don't know how to do any of it to this post.

[Vyxenne]

On 11/14/2021 at 3:10 AM, Lazarus2 said:

I don't know how to prevent Steam from updating certain games other than going offline in general.

• Right-Click the default SSE link in the Steam Library
• Click Properties, then Updates
• Set the Automatic Updates option to "Only update this game when I launch it"
• Optionally, click Steam > Settings > Downloads and set Download Restrictions to an impossibly short time span when the computer is never on
• Never launch the game via Steam's default SSE link but instead use a shortcut to skse64_loader.exe
• Always make sure Steam is already running before you use the skse64_launcher.exe shortcut

 

[Lazarus2]

Thanks for the hints and tips to everyone? ?

[swmas]

On 7/23/2020 at 11:14 PM, Vyxenne said:

I'm using Mfg Fix, Expressive Facial Animation - Female Edition and a couple of override scripts that I got from here a couple of months ago- sadly, I don't remember who posted them, but I take no credit for them- I just d/l and repackaged them, naming the resulting archive "SexLab Beta8 LipSync Fix" so I would know what it actually was and which version of SexLab it applied to. SexLab Beta8 LipSync Fix.7z

 

Then, with the new scripts installed, I went into SL's MCM and enabled "Apply Facial Expressions" and "Play Lip Sync Animations," ignoring the warnings, and it works astonishingly well. Before Mfg Fix incorporated Blinking Eyes, I used Blinking Player Eyes, which added even a bit more realism.

 

Here's an example of my expressions now:

Hope this was helpful to you. Or someone. I'm just here for the sex.

 

 

Does this still work for Beta 9?

[OsmelMC]

2 hours ago, swmas said:

Does this still work for Beta 9?

Except the LipSync Fix that is just for the BETA 8 and is not longer required. All the other Mods in the list work fine with the BETA 9.

 

 

All the Mods, patches or fixed specifically tagged as BETA 8 are just for the BETA 8 and will break something is are applied on the BETA 9.

[HardRaine]

20 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

This is brilliant and concise, and needs to be stickied where it doesn't get buried- it applies to all SSE players on PC, not just SLF users. I'm copying the link so I can refer ppl who don't know how to do any of it to this post.

Steam got rid of the older SE manifests making version fallback unavailable now, so if anybody gets snakebitten by this little AE dustup, here is a simple and effective way to get that crap out of your system (only do this if Bethesda snuck in, and ninja patched your game)...download this, and run it from Windows, not from inside a mod manager... then take the advice already given above about shutting your back door down tightly.  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618?tab=description   *ES Modders saving players since 1995!*

{warning: large download, and the patcher takes several minutes to work its magic.  Also, must have a legal, properly installed version of Skyrim SE running, as this will not save the pirates.   * I have my Steam/SE installations on the F drive, and ran the patcher out of my main download directory, and it instantly found Skyrim SE.}

I was building a new profile the other night, and suddenly a bunch of crap .esms showed up in my load order, and several of my mod utilities began gang-failing (mainly FNIS blew its lunch, but so did Loot).  Oh crap, it was ninja patch night!  The next morning, after my anger subsided, I found that patcher, and all my blues went away.  No fuss, no muss, and we're back in the saddle again!

~

Make sure to save it!  Then, even if those crazy kids over at Bethesda figure out another novel way to sell their junk CC *cough* mods *cough*, we have a polite and pristine way to say; "NO thanks, matey!  But don't ye mad dawgs and englishmen have a major ES game which needs a'finishin'?"  Hey, isn't this strike 3 for Bethesda abruptly dumping on the Skyrim mod community while trying to corner the mod market, driven by $$$ signs dancing in their eyes?  Again.  Pffft.

Edited November 16, 2021 by HardRaine

[4nk8r]

36 minutes ago, HardRaine said:

Steam got rid of the older SE manifests making version fallback unavailable now, so if anybody gets snakebitten by this little AE dustup, here is a simple and effective way to get that crap out of your system (only do this if Bethesda snuck in, and ninja patched your game)...download this, and run it from Windows, not from inside a mod manager... then take the advice already given above about shutting your back door down tightly.  https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618?tab=description   *ES Modders saving players since 1995!*

{warning: large download, and the patcher takes several minutes to work its magic.  Also, must have a legal, properly installed version of Skyrim SE running, as this will not save the pirates.   * I have my Steam/SE installations on the F drive, and ran the patcher out of my main download directory, and it instantly found Skyrim SE.}

I was building a new profile the other night, and suddenly a bunch of crap .esms showed up in my load order, and several of my mod utilities began gang-failing (mainly FNIS blew its lunch, but so did Loot).  Oh crap, it was ninja patch night!  The next morning, after my anger subsided, I found that patcher, and all my blues went away.  No fuss, no muss, and we're back in the saddle again!

~

Make sure to save it!  Then, even if those crazy kids over at Bethesda figure out another novel way to sell their junk CC *cough* mods *cough*, we have a polite and pristine way to say; "NO thanks, matey!  But don't ye mad dawgs and englishmen have a major ES game which needs a'finishin'?"  Hey, isn't this strike 3 for Bethesda abruptly dumping on the Skyrim mod community while trying to corner the mod market, driven by $$$ signs dancing in their eyes?  Again.  Pffft.

 

Old manifests are not being deleted (at least English 1.5.97 is still intact).  See here where I give examples using the DepotDownloader:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/95031-schlongs-of-skyrim-se/?do=findComment&comment=3574548

 

[4nk8r]

20 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

• Right-Click the default SSE link in the Steam Library
• Click Properties, then Updates
• Set the Automatic Updates option to "Only update this game when I launch it"
• Optionally, click Steam > Settings > Downloads and set Download Restrictions to an impossibly short time span when the computer is never on
• Never launch the game via Steam's default SSE link but instead use a shortcut to skse64_loader.exe
• Always make sure Steam is already running before you use the skse64_launcher.exe shortcut

 

 

Just be aware, Steam doesn't always honor this.  I have Conan Exiles set to update on launch and yesterday Steam just queued that shit right up and downloaded it like that setting didn't exist.  The only way to make sure SkyrimSE doesn't update is to rename/delete the manifest (disable cloud saves 1st, stop steam, move/rename manifest, start steam).  It will appear to not be installed in your Steam Library.

[PippinTom]

27 minutes ago, 4nk8r said:

The only way to make sure SkyrimSE doesn't update is to rename/delete the manifest (disable cloud saves 1st, stop steam, move/rename manifest, start steam).  It will appear to not be installed in your Steam Library.

... or, if you don't actually play that game then (for the time being) removing WriteAccessRights from current user on game's main directory would be better - game will still be listed in steam's rooster as installed, and in queue for updates, yet it will be marked as "PAUSED". At least on NTFS it works that way - I have one game frozen that way since January of 2019.

 

Of course I do not have anything outside OS partition set as being owned by built-in administrators group or account, but I'm not sure it matters here.

[HardRaine]

1 hour ago, 4nk8r said:

 

Old manifests are not being deleted (at least English 1.5.97 is still intact).  See here where I give examples using the DepotDownloader:

 

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/95031-schlongs-of-skyrim-se/?do=findComment&comment=3574548

 

The night they ninja downloaded this in the middle of the night, Depot Downloader could not find the 1.5.97 manifest (or any others for that matter.  But this was within 15 minutes of the actual AE pre-event happening).  People ware raising hell, and there was some discussion Steam may put it back.  I was so disgusted with it, have not checked back since I got this straightened out. 

If it's working again, that's great.

[Renodil]

On 3/8/2020 at 6:13 PM, 4nk8r said:

The the parts of OSA that conflict with Sexlab are the included Papyrus Util parts.  Don't let OSA overwrite anything, really.  ConsoleUtilSSE, MfgFix, Sexlab SE Framework and PapyrusUtil SSE are all newer than the latest version of version of OSA for SSE.

 

If you want to maintain PapyrusUtil SE separately from Sexlab, use this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13048

 

and never let anything overwrite it (except maybe newer versions of Sexlab Framework SSE).  Both Papyrus Utils (both LE/SE) and Sexlab Framework (both LE/SE) are maintained by Ashal.  As long as you stay up to date there you should be good.

 

Then why does Vortex show this?

 

 

[DocClox]

7 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

Just be aware, Steam doesn't always honor this.

 

Yeah, I've had Steam update Skyrim when I told it not too. Back up your game folder as a first line of defence, and then set Steram as above so (hopefully) you won't have to restore that backup too frequently.

[Leavira]

On 11/15/2021 at 9:20 AM, Vyxenne said:

Are you sure of this? I was on Windows 7 four years ago the first time I reverted my SSE game (from 1.5.24 back to 1.5.16) using the Depot and Manifest IDs in the Steam Console- exactly the same as I would do it today on my Windows 10 machine if I hadn't been blocking updates for the past 4 years.

Sorry, to be clear the installer that comes with the mod only runs on Win 10.

[Hatoc123]

On 11/9/2021 at 7:38 AM, Hylysi said:

Skimming over the PapyrusUtil source based on when the crash happens: my guess is it could be related to plugin load order changes, such as loading/removing follower mods with ESPFE plugins on a save file (similar to a crash SOS SE experiences.)

 

If this is the case, you should be able to replicate it by having custom followers be added to SexLab's 'skills' storage. Doing anything SexLab related with them will add them.

Then save the game, quit, and disable that follower mod from your mod list.

When you next attempt to use the 'Clean System' SexLab option on that save file it should cause the same crash.

As there may be a difference, try it both on a follower mod that does and doesn't have an ESL/ESPFE flagged plugin.

 

I have no understanding of what causes this to happen.

The related code for debug_cleanup() in PapyrusUtil and the papyrus script that calls it hasn't changed, so either this isn't it or (amazingly) no one has reported it until now.

I seem to of found a little workaround for now though I dont know how long this workaround will work

for those having the same problem as me waiting for everthing to load in then making another save then loading into that save and waiting for it to load then clicking the clean system button does seem to work though I dont know whether this is a perment workaround.

[Elsidia]

I wonder why Steam force to get a gift if players don't want this gift? (AE)

[biggusthiccus]

quick question, does anyone know if the issue with AE is due to the SKSE update being less finished or SL framework needing to update to fit in with SKSE? Both?

[Vyxenne]

14 hours ago, 4nk8r said:

The only way to make sure SkyrimSE doesn't update is to rename/delete the manifest (disable cloud saves 1st, stop steam, move/rename manifest, start steam).  It will appear to not be installed in your Steam Library.

Yes, I had already done this but haven't tested thoroughly enough yet to make sure there are no hidden "gotchas."

[Vyxenne]

2 hours ago, Elsidia said:

I wonder why Steam force to get a gift if players don't want this gift? (AE)

Firstly, it's Bethesda forcing the updates. Steam is basically just a conduit, although of course they bend over backwards to aid and abet a major game publisher.

 

Secondly, if you were Bethesda and had concocted a scheme (twice) to set up a paid mod marketplace, going so far as to deliberately and unnecessarily break SKSE-users' games with numerous updates over a 2 year period (2017-2019) and failed both times to kill off free modding, and then been bought up by Microsoft, another company not known for it's customer friendliness, might you not regroup and plan a new assault on free mods using less-easily circumvented methods?

Edited November 16, 2021 by Vyxenne
To remove unladylike references to places she wishes Bethesda would put its updates

[Elsidia]

1 hour ago, biggusthiccus said:

Both?

I assume first you need got stable (Oh my god, bethesda can make stable game? LOL) AE version, there still so many bugs and russian localization of AE is completely destroyed.  Then you need stable SKSE for AE version. And only then Sexlab have two dll, what need recompile for newest SKSE and newest AE engine (C++ 2019 - i assume).

[kyshandria]

2 minutes ago, Elsidia said:

I assume first you need got stable (Oh my god, bethesda can make stable game? LOL) AE version, there still so many bugs and russian localization of AE is completely destroyed.  Then you need stable SKSE for AE version. And only then Sexlab have two dll, what need recompile for newest SKSE and newest AE engine (C++ 2019 - i assume).

Well there are those of us who are waiting for the fix so we can go back into the Stable ourselves!