PAH - And you get a slave! (LE/SE)

[Psalam]

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1 hour ago, gogelmogel100 said:

In the subject PAHE author gave the answer ,is it so difficult to give people the debugging ?! After all ,slaves need a lot and hundreds of them,for your fashion also needs a large number of slaves,they must be trained and instead of enjoying the game ,players are forced to engage in nonsense ,many hours of training . But if I want your mod to do a lot of public houses in the towns and villages,I have until retirement to teach the slaves,instead of to the fan of the game.

Your mod is SUPER fine, thanks for your hard work , but understand the players.

 

 

Unless you are dealing with AYGAS perks (which it doesn't sound like you are) all the issues of slave training go back to PAHE and this would be better addressed there.

[gender65]

3 hours ago, Psalam said:

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Unless you are dealing with AYGAS perks (which it doesn't sound like you are) all the issues of slave training go back to PAHE and this would be better addressed there.

I actively use AYGAS,I just want to speed up the process of training slaves, which takes a huge amount of playing time. AYGAS perks depend directly on the perks of PAHE.

Author PAHE does not want to give players debugging,and this is very bad on his part ! So I want to ask a knowledgeable person in mods, maybe he will tell me (us) how this can be done .

If training one slave takes a long time,then imagine how much suffering it takes with just five slaves to advance through the perks of AYGAS ? And most players aren't limited to five slaves,are they ? They need a few dozen, at least ! Taskmasters.Madam and other.

[Psalam]

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6 minutes ago, gogelmogel100 said:

I actively use AYGAS,I just want to speed up the process of training slaves, which takes a huge amount of playing time. AYGAS perks depend directly on the perks of PAHE.

Author PAHE does not want to give players debugging,and this is very bad on his part ! So I want to ask a knowledgeable person in mods, maybe he will tell me (us) how this can be done .

 

 

While I have no knowledge of how (or if) this can be done with a console, I have personally posted the easiest way to do this multiple times on this site, on Home Sweet Home and on PAHE. I will repeat it one more time.

 

First, using the slider on the PAHE MCM set the level needed to keep a slave from running away to a minimum. Second, using whatever method you like train their submission to above 20 - in my experience this takes a total of 3 beatings. Third, tell them they will fight for you (sometimes you'll have to beat one a time or two more to get them to agree but for most 20 is sufficient). Fourth, take the slave to a safe, indoor location - I usually use Dragonsreach - and chain them up (if you don't have chains use the command from HSH that allows you to chain them anyway). Then go off and adventure. After a sufficient period of time (typically 6-8 weeks game time) the slave's Submission, Pose and Combat will all be trained to 100. If you make a habit of having sex with them every time you pass through Dragonsreach you can get their sex score up to 100 in the same period of time.

 

I hope that helps you. I don't know how Musje and CliftonJD feel about it but I would prefer it if you quit calling the female mod authors "dear". Where I come from you don't call a woman "dear" unless you're related to her and I assume you're not or you'd be getting this information by PM (very PM).

[gender65]

2 hours ago, Psalam said:

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While I have no knowledge of how (or if) this can be done with a console, I have personally posted the easiest way to do this multiple times on this site, on Home Sweet Home and on PAHE. I will repeat it one more time.

 

First, using the slider on the PAHE MCM set the level needed to keep a slave from running away to a minimum. Second, using whatever method you like train their submission to above 20 - in my experience this takes a total of 3 beatings. Third, tell them they will fight for you (sometimes you'll have to beat one a time or two more to get them to agree but for most 20 is sufficient). Fourth, take the slave to a safe, indoor location - I usually use Dragonsreach - and chain them up (if you don't have chains use the command from HSH that allows you to chain them anyway). Then go off and adventure. After a sufficient period of time (typically 6-8 weeks game time) the slave's Submission, Pose and Combat will all be trained to 100. If you make a habit of having sex with them every time you pass through Dragonsreach you can get their sex score up to 100 in the same period of time.

 

I hope that helps you. I don't know how Musje and CliftonJD feel about it but I would prefer it if you quit calling the female mod authors "dear". Where I come from you don't call a woman "dear" unless you're related to her and I assume you're not or you'd be getting this information by PM (very PM).

Dear-this is an error online translator, sorry))) I wrote another word,with reverence.Although very strange and inappropriate to be offended by such words in the subject mods of sexual perversion...All you the above I did , but I have playing time exposed on 5(set timescale to 5),I feel so comfortable,to enjoy the world of Skyrim and the game does not drive me to complete the prerequisite quests..So wait for weeks and months of game time is not an option.

[KainsChylde]

5 hours ago, gogelmogel100 said:

...All you the above I did , but I have playing time exposed on 5(set timescale to 5),I feel so comfortable,to enjoy the world of Skyrim and the game does not drive me to complete the prerequisite quests..So wait for weeks and months of game time is not an option.

You could always follow their suggestion, then go somewhere and wait. What you do to get the time to pass isn't really the point. The point is going somewhere other than where you chain up the slave, then get time to pass. Might not work for combat training but the others should progress as suggested.

[Psalam]

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20 minutes ago, KainsChylde said:

You could always follow their suggestion, then go somewhere and wait. What you do to get the time to pass isn't really the point. The point is going somewhere other than where you chain up the slave, then get time to pass. Might not work for combat training but the others should progress as suggested.

 

 

IF you have told them that they will fight for you it WILL work for combat training. If you don't, it won't. What it doesn't work for is sex training (but I always found doing that personally part of the pleasure of playing the mod).

[sdddll]

 Hi Musje, is there anyway to delete or remove NPC's slaves? Since they are too many or ugly.

[Musje]

5 hours ago, sdddll said:

 Hi Musje, is there anyway to delete or remove NPC's slaves? Since they are too many or ugly.

Nope. Well you could simply buy them and leave them in a ditch somewhere...

If you don't want these, make sure to set the slider in MCM that contols the NPC slave spawn rate to the lowest setting.

[sdddll]

Ok, l will try it. Thx for the answering.

[typoking1107]

How do I sell a slave as a worker and what are the requirements for it?

[AWHA]

On 12/25/2018 at 5:31 AM, Musje said:

Nope. Well you could simply buy them and leave them in a ditch somewhere...

If you don't want these, make sure to set the slider in MCM that contols the NPC slave spawn rate to the lowest setting.

I may be wrong, but I think if you have HSH installed then you can do the quest that lets you sell them to the mine in Dawnstar, does this get rid of them?

 

On a related note, can we get a way to clear/reset the auction pool (from HSH auctions)? Sometimes I just want the new spawns to be bandits. Also would be great if we can get a MCM page that has a list of all current owners, just for information.

[Musje]

13 hours ago, AWHA said:

I may be wrong, but I think if you have HSH installed then you can do the quest that lets you sell them to the mine in Dawnstar, does this get rid of them?

 

On a related note, can we get a way to clear/reset the auction pool (from HSH auctions)? Sometimes I just want the new spawns to be bandits. Also would be great if we can get a MCM page that has a list of all current owners, just for information.

Hm I'd have to check the code, but selling them to a mine might get rid of them... at least the shouldn't show up at auctions again. Not 100% on that

I'll look into managing the auction pool and MCM menu, more people have asked for a better info page

[oustacha]

hello musje , i have a big problem with the quest with the pit figth , i never see start one of them and my game is blocked at this level , have any idea why ?

[Psalam]

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4 minutes ago, oustacha said:

hello musje , i have a big problem with the quest with the pit figth , i never see start one of them and my game is blocked at this level , have any idea why ?

 

 

Please note that this is from the modpage:

 

Pit fights are not implemented yet. You may see a pit master wandering around town, but they won'd actually set up the events. It's safe to talk to them though.

[migithemaxim]

i have a problem I Cant sell any of my slaves I get the servant message box and the npcs agreed yet the dialogue just cuts of there it doesn't select any of my slaves even if she is right next too me also for some reason the mcm menu doesn't show up core pahe and home sweet home I see but not this mod 

Even tough the esp is enabled what am I doing wrong? 

[Musje]

Did you select the right optional mods during installation?

[SnowhawkLL]

On 12/25/2018 at 4:31 AM, Musje said:

Nope. Well you could simply buy them and leave them in a ditch somewhere...

If you don't want these, make sure to set the slider in MCM that contols the NPC slave spawn rate to the lowest setting.

or you can just take them somewhere. maybe a quiet and peaceful place. an kill'em lol

[borninmarch]

First, sorry for my poor english. I hope you can understand what I'm saying....

 

Thnaks to Musje for making this great mod.

 

But I have a bug about slave auction in major city.

I tested auction system in Whiterun and Solitude. Both auction started successfully, but it didn't progress anymore. Neither Whiterun and Solitude.

 

In more detail, after Auction Master said auction start soon, many npc came to auction place. But that's all. Nothing progress.

Auction Master didn't say anything after auction strated, npcs were just standing there place, slaves in the cage were just walk around in the middle of the cage.

Oh, and there is no XCross in auction place. I knew one XCross should appear in the auction place when the Auction Master appeared, but it won't.

I reset and restarted the auction in AYGAS MCM, but this problem couldn't fix. 

 

How can I fix this problem? 

If you need more information for solving problem, please tell me. I provide more information about my skyrim as fast as I can. Thank you.

[Musje]

Which version of the mod are you running? That behaviour happened in a previous version when auctions weren't fully implemented yet

[borninmarch]

1 hour ago, Musje said:

Which version of the mod are you running? That behaviour happened in a previous version when auctions weren't fully implemented yet

I used 0.56, latest version. In the past, I used 0.52 and updated 0.56 lately, in continue game. Not a new game.

After updating, I reset and restarted auction in AYGAS MCM. 

 

I also used Pahe 7.2.8 and pahe-HSH 1.2.0 with compatible patch.

[Alexsandritus]

On 10/21/2018 at 3:18 AM, Musje said:

Someone already did a conversion I think

 

I have plans to make an official SE version but it's pretty far down my list at the moment. 

Make SE, up to version 0.53 or lower, give an opportunity to evaluate the SE user, your work.

[Musje]

I put an SE version of 0.56 (the latest) up in the download page of this mod.

[LordArek]

I don't know if this has been already talked about, but I mentioned it in the normal "PAHE" Thread.

For some reason, AYGAS causes massive Papyrus/String problems for me. At some point of my game, it just constantly crashed to desktop, and when I looked deeper into the files, I saw a literal explosion of Papyrus Bloating. (I've had roughly 12 slaves sold and the first three or four perks free, so I was basically just beginning with the mod.)

Uninstalling AYGAS solved the problem for me, and after that, I've never had any CTD's whatsoever and no bloats as well. Two people suggested to uninstall AYGAS because they've encountered the same problem, so ... any hints? 

(Load order inc, didn't get to update it right now.)

[Musje]

23 minutes ago, LordArek said:

I don't know if this has been already talked about, but I mentioned it in the normal "PAHE" Thread.

For some reason, AYGAS causes massive Papyrus/String problems for me. At some point of my game, it just constantly crashed to desktop, and when I looked deeper into the files, I saw a literal explosion of Papyrus Bloating. (I've had roughly 12 slaves sold and the first three or four perks free, so I was basically just beginning with the mod.)

Uninstalling AYGAS solved the problem for me, and after that, I've never had any CTD's whatsoever and no bloats as well. Two people suggested to uninstall AYGAS because they've encountered the same problem, so ... any hints? 

(Load order inc, didn't get to update it right now.)

Got any logs or other details of what is going on?

[LordArek]

2 hours ago, Musje said:

Got any logs or other details of what is going on?

 

Unfortunately, I can only show you what it looked like, because I deleted everything related to this issue. (Stupid me thought AYGAS is not supported/worked on anymore, which is why I didn't bother screenshotting everything for the future, sorry.)

But, look at the red circle in the screenshot. That's the numbers I get now, 3 weeks after on a new save. With AYGAS, the numbers would rise indefinitely to the point the save collapses and is unloadable. 

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Also, when using SaveTool, the saves that contained advanced AYGAS stuff would cause SaveTool to crash instantly. I can't even open or clean them. 

I can't list my load order right now because Modwatch is not responding, can't upload, but that should be fixed in the next hours. Sorry for the lack of intel, I'll try to add more asap.