Devious Devices

[izzyknows]

28 minutes ago, ashlynator3537 said:

Ok- less a problem with the mod itself, more so with bodyslide but, for some reason it's not giving me any option to actually select them to be built in the batch build menu, nor individual building, any way to fix this?

 

 

Second issue: during the Vault 111 segment, if you take even a single hit from a roach after getting your cuffs off, when you get the dress off it will automatically send you into surrender state, even with god mode on, any chance this gets patched?

The bodyslide issue... reinstall the mod. You're simply missing the files, of if you can't build anything, it's a setup issue.

Trash the original DD 2.0 I mean completely... and install RC9

Theeen build the items in bodyslide.

 

Second issue: That is a DCW issue, and to fix it copy & paste the following console command to turn combat surrender off. You must do this BEFORE entering the Vault.

set dcw_enableCombatSurrender to 0

You can also use xEdit to permanently turn it off.
It's located in Global, just change it from 1 to 0.

[valcon767]

8 hours ago, ashlynator3537 said:

Second issue: during the Vault 111 segment, if you take even a single hit from a roach after getting your cuffs off, when you get the dress off it will automatically send you into surrender state, even with god mode on, any chance this gets patched?

 

another option is 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5855-deviously-cursed-menu/

but as stated above you must turn off combat surrender before going into the vault.

 

[sen4mi]

 I would like to recommend that someone active here set up a new fallout 4 file download page which:

• Explains the "Waiting on Kimmy" issue, and
• Links to the rc8 and rc9 download posts in this support thread (and rc10 when it's available, I suppose)
• Links to critical external fixes, like https://www.loverslab.com/topic/68652-torturedevices/page/27/#comment-3765748
• and maybe links to supporting mods (dcw, dd slave heels, ...)

I am tempted to do this myself, but I think I am not insightful enough, I am not even currently running a DD equipped game. (But I am thinking about it, and the chase after random bits of information made me realize that other people likely have the same problems.)

 

It's also tempting to only link to the most recent RC instance, but I think there's going to be people out there using something which breaks, maybe in a version-dependent way, so having older "releases" to test against could relieve some frustration. (But maybe older stuff should be displayed less prominently - spoiler tags, maybe.)

 

Then again... I am "volunteering" someone else's time. Which might be bad/rude/abusive. So... if no one else steps up (and no one explains to me why this is a Really Stupid Idea), I might eventually set up a download page like this myself.

[vaultbait]

14 minutes ago, sen4mi said:

and maybe links to supporting mods (dcw, dd slave heels, ...)

 

...ground objects (at least until that gets included in RC10), BodySlide conversions, enchantings RC patches...

 

Not sure Slave Heels is important to mention as it's been included directly in the RC versions pretty much since day 1.

[sen4mi]

Definitely ground objects, I should have remembered that one. And, the others... I would have to look up... Enchantings are sort of optional, but good to reference, ground objects are almost but not quite required.

 

But... by "slave heels" I meant https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/14521-devious-devices-slave-heels-cbbe-fusion-girl/

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by sen4mi

[vaultbait]

21 minutes ago, sen4mi said:

But... by "slave heels" I meant https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/14521-devious-devices-slave-heels-cbbe-fusion-girl/

 

Right, Naaitsab got permission from JB. and included the whole thing in... RC1? Or one of the very early RCs at least.

[sen4mi]

3 hours ago, vaultbait said:

 

Right, Naaitsab got permission from JB. and included the whole thing in... RC1? Or one of the very early RCs at least.

Ah... good to know.

 

I did not see that in DD20CE09_changelog.docx  from the RC9 post. Is there some other changelog that shows this?

[lampuiho]

Using RC9 beta I have turned on the lockpicking mini game but when choosing the lockpicking option, I get shown both the failed pop up screen and the lockpicking mini game screen after closing pipboy Weird. I will have to check the script to see how I can fix it.

 

edit: the problem is the lockpick minigame is supposed to be shown without closing PipBoy. For some reason, it is only showing when I close pipboy. But it also means utility.wait is finished. 

 

edit2: removing utility.Wait(0.1)  on  line 1488 DD_RestraintScript.psc (just after the door moves to player and before lock is set on it) fixes the issue.

Edited November 7, 2023 by lampuiho

[Elsidia]

On 11/7/2023 at 2:53 PM, lampuiho said:

Using RC9 beta I have turned on the lockpicking mini game but when choosing the lockpicking option,

This error is from DD 2.0 as this minigame not much used and have bad usable.

Instead of remove i recommend add line UI.CloseMenu("pipboymenu") before Bool _failed = false and will close pipboy automatically and delay will not stuck. Will be added on next hot fix stage.

[Guest]

Interesting mod ? Get to the Goodneighbour, found Kimy.  At first no voices for me speaking with she.  Tried stright jacket white topless shirt - for walking everything is fine, but for sitting not. This mod (https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/22351) breaks that topless shirt. I mean character simply cross legs. 

 

Edit - and I can't find how to craft all stuff from scratch? Is it possible or I should buy every single restraint separate? Looked for crafting station in workshop menu, didn't find anything. 

Edited November 12, 2023 by ravenshield

[vaultbait]

1 hour ago, ravenshield said:

I can't find how to craft all stuff from scratch? Is it possible or I should buy every single restraint separate? Looked for crafting station in workshop menu, didn't find anything.

 

It requires a special workbench, which you can find in the raider section of the settlement building menu.

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

It requires a special workbench, which you can find in the raider section of the settlement building menu.

 

Oh, shit, thanks. Didn't look in that section. I already bought all restraints, will check and then will give opinion. ?

[Scuffedfeet]

So, using RC8 (is RC 9 stable? only heard of it when I went hunting for answers to this glitch) and the body near red rocket looks like this:
the hands spawn, the head with gag spawns, but the rest of the body is invisible/not there. Any ideas how this happened?

[vaultbait]

23 minutes ago, Scuffedfeet said:

So, using RC8 (is RC 9 stable? only heard of it when I went hunting for answers to this glitch)

 

RC9 is at least as stable as RC8, it doesn't really include new development so much as bug fixes.

 

24 minutes ago, Scuffedfeet said:

the body near red rocket looks like this:
the hands spawn, the head with gag spawns, but the rest of the body is invisible/not there. Any ideas how this happened?

 

That's a very long-standing bug with LooksMenu's BodyGen feature. There's a workaround called Invisible Dead Body Fixer but your alternatives are basically to live with it or get rid of your generic BodyGen configuration (and perhaps only apply BodyGen to living NPCs by explicit ID.)

[Scuffedfeet]

4 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

RC9 is at least as stable as RC8, it doesn't really include new development so much as bug fixes.

 

 

That's a very long-standing bug with LooksMenu's BodyGen feature. There's a workaround called Invisible Dead Body Fixer but your alternatives are basically to live with it or get rid of your generic BodyGen configuration (and perhaps only apply BodyGen to living NPCs by explicit ID.)

Will it continue to be a problem if DD gear is attached to a living NPC? or is it just corpses that are like that? I accidentally activated the trap and it equipped them to my character, and they were still invisible. However I'm playing a male character so...

 

[vaultbait]

1 minute ago, Scuffedfeet said:

Will it continue to be a problem if DD gear is attached to a living NPC? or is it just corpses that are like that? I accidentally activated the trap and it equipped them to my character, and they were still invisible. However I'm playing a male character so...

 

On very rare occasions (I mean like so few I could count them on one hand after thousands of hours of gameplay), I've seen a living NPC load in after fast travel with an invisible body and just floating head/hands, but like I said it's nothing to do with Devious Devices.

 

Also, the party line is that Devious Devices is generally not intended for equipping on NPCs. You can end up with effects that persist after devices are removed, actors stuck in DD poses, and so on. It will mostly work, but get good at workarounds like reequipping things so you can unequip them again, doing openactorcontainer in the console because you can't access the trade menu when they have a gag on, etc.

[izzyknows]

53 minutes ago, Scuffedfeet said:

I accidentally activated the trap and it equipped them to my character, and they were still invisible. However I'm playing a male character so...

You'd need a patch to make them work "correctly" for the male body. But anyway, make sure you built the outfits in BodySlide.

[Kanlaon]

Hello,

 

I want to use one of the blindfolds in my own mods, but without the devious effects. Maybe use only the meshes and textures. Would that be ok ?

The reason is: The blindfold effect is great - but not in a scene with AAF Animations.

 

[izzyknows]

5 hours ago, Kanlaon said:

Hello,

 

I want to use one of the blindfolds in my own mods, but without the devious effects. Maybe use only the meshes and textures. Would that be ok ?

The reason is: The blindfold effect is great - but not in a scene with AAF Animations.

 

You can turn it off in the MCM>Devious Devices>Settings.

If you're using RC9

[Kanlaon]

9 hours ago, izzyknows said:

You can turn it off in the MCM>Devious Devices>Settings.

If you're using RC9

 

I play with RC9 and I know that, but it is not what I wanted. Usually I play with the 'Hardcore option' (?) found in the MCM so there is no access to that slider possible.

Maybe if DeviousDevices can handle the blindfold events by itself as long as the player is in an AAF scene there is no need for an DD blindfold without  effekt.

Anyway this would require to hook into the AAF scripts to check when a scene starts and when it is finished.

The old solution from skyrim seems not possible, since the player is in Firstperson mode (!) when  the player is in an AAF scene

 

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, Kanlaon said:

 

I play with RC9 and I know that, but it is not what I wanted. Usually I play with the 'Hardcore option' (?) found in the MCM so there is no access to that slider possible.

Maybe if DeviousDevices can handle the blindfold events by itself as long as the player is in an AAF scene there is no need for an DD blindfold without  effekt.

Anyway this would require to hook into the AAF scripts to check when a scene starts and when it is finished.

The old solution from skyrim seems not possible, since the player is in Firstperson mode (!) when  the player is in an AAF scene

 

So you want the blindfold effect until an AAF scene starts then you want it removed for the duration of the scene?

If so, that'll take some scripting.

If you just don;t want the effect at all, turn it off before entering hardcore mode.

 

BTW, during an AAF scene the PC in invisible, a doppelganger is getting banged and the camera is in fly mode.

[fromthevault]

Placed DDs in the inventory of NPCs and made them wear them, now they are not going off

poor mama Murphey is walking around sanctuary with nipple clamps 

How to use restraint keys to remove DDs on NPCs? 

alternatively, what are the ways to remove DDs on NPCs? 

Edited November 18, 2023 by MisterNoName

[valcon767]

3 hours ago, MisterNoName said:

How to use restraint keys on NPCs? 

alternatively, what are the ways to remove DDs on NPCs? 

 

depends on if the NPC is a settler/companion or not.

if settler/companion just go into trade menu and unequip DD then remove DD if you want (also works to put DD on an NPC)

otherwise you will need to use console, target NPC and use "openactorcontainer 1" to get into trade menu.

 

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, MisterNoName said:

Placed DDs in the inventory of NPCs and made them wear them, now they are not going off

poor mama Murphey is walking around sanctuary with nipple clamps 

How to use restraint keys to remove DDs on NPCs? 

alternatively, what are the ways to remove DDs on NPCs? 

Once you get them off the NPC, never put them on NPC's again! It causes more issues than it's worth.

[fromthevault]

1 hour ago, valcon767 said:

 

depends on if the NPC is a settler/companion or not.

if settler/companion just go into trade menu and unequip DD then remove DD if you want (also works to put DD on an NPC)

otherwise you will need to use console, target NPC and use "openactorcontainer 1" to get into trade menu.

 

Useful if gagged, thanks.