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Posted
22 minutes ago, warings98 said:

thank you i tried it and i got this. kinda need a bit of help with it

 

Can you please post the actual crash log, and not the log from that interpreter thing?  Also, post it as an attachment, don't paste it in here.

 

Thanks.

Posted
34 minutes ago, EgoBallistic said:

 

Can you please post the actual crash log, and not the log from that interpreter thing?  Also, post it as an attachment, don't paste it in here.

 

Thanks.

My bad first time posting and sure :D

Posted
2 hours ago, warings98 said:

this is the crash log right? like i said im new to this so sorry if i mess up XD

 

Yup, that is what I wanted to look at.

 

Your game is crashing because of a missing master.  You are trying to load a mod that depends on another mod, and that other mod is not loaded.  This causes the game to CTD before the loading screen.

 

I verified this by renaming my TortureDevices.esm to TortureDevices.disabled.  This produced a crash log nearly identical to yours, see below.  In particular, the offset of the crash (Fallout4.exe+0DB9300) is exactly the same, and all the same things are logged right up to the point where the game crashed.

crash-2022-07-08-10-19-05.log

Posted
43 minutes ago, EgoBallistic said:

 

Yup, that is what I wanted to look at.

 

Your game is crashing because of a missing master.  You are trying to load a mod that depends on another mod, and that other mod is not loaded.  This causes the game to CTD before the loading screen.

 

I verified this by renaming my TortureDevices.esm to TortureDevices.disabled.  This produced a crash log nearly identical to yours, see below.  In particular, the offset of the crash (Fallout4.exe+0DB9300) is exactly the same, and all the same things are logged right up to the point where the game crashed.

crash-2022-07-08-10-19-05.log 21.71 kB · 2 downloads

thank you so much ill have a look at my mods anf figure out which mod i need to fix it :D

Posted (edited)

My game is crashing before reaching the main menu with Torture Devices enabled. It doesn't happen when its disabled and I purge mods until I enable this mod again, and I need to have it for devious devices (I'm using the community patch version). I don't know if its specifically this mod that is causing the crash or if its a conflict, can anyone help?

crash-2022-07-22-19-03-38.log

Edited by mognoi
added a crash log
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, mognoi said:

My game is crashing before reaching the main menu with Torture Devices enabled. It doesn't happen when its disabled and I purge mods until I enable this mod again, and I need to have it for devious devices (I'm using the community patch version). I don't know if its specifically this mod that is causing the crash or if its a conflict, can anyone help?

 

TortureDevices is not causing your game to crash.  Something strange is going on because the game is trying to load "n.BA2" which doesn't make sense based on your plugin list.

 

I see you have a bunch of DLL based fix mods - Baka, High FPS Physics, Sprint Stuttering Fix, Weapon Debris Crash Fix, etc.  You shouldn't be using Baka and Buffout 4 at the same time.  I would disable all of those and see if the game loads and go from there.

 

Another odd thing: your plugins list is unusually short:

Spoiler

PLUGINS:
    [00]     Fallout4.esm
    [01]     DLCRobot.esm
    [02]     DLCworkshop01.esm
    [03]     DLCCoast.esm
    [04]     DLCworkshop02.esm
    [05]     DLCworkshop03.esm
    [06]     DLCNukaWorld.esm
    [07]     ArmorKeywords.esm
    [08]     HUDFramework.esm
    [09]     XDI.esm
    [0A]     AAF.esm
    [0B]     TortureDevices.esm
    [0C]     Devious Devices.esm
    [0D]     Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
    [FE:000] AAFThemes.esl
    [FE:001] HiPolyFacesCompanionPlugin.esl
    [FE:002] HiPolyFaces.esp
    [FE:003] CBBE.esp
    [FE:004] LooksMenu.esp
    [FE:005] FO4HHS_AAF.esp
    [FE:006] FIS-Naming-Weap-Armo-EN.esp

 

Are those really all the plugins you are using?  If not, something is probably going on with one of the plugins not listed there, like a missing master file.

 

Edited by EgoBallistic
Posted
On 7/4/2022 at 6:19 AM, EgoBallistic said:

 

Are those the darker / more vivid whip marks?

Sorry for the late response, but Torture Devices doesn't bring those textures.

 

The mod is looking for a texture Textures/Decal/_TD_CropDecals.dds which does not exist. Consequently, whips leave no mark on the skin.

Posted
2 hours ago, mognoi said:

My game is crashing before reaching the main menu with Torture Devices enabled. It doesn't happen when its disabled and I purge mods until I enable this mod again, and I need to have it for devious devices (I'm using the community patch version). I don't know if its specifically this mod that is causing the crash or if its a conflict, can anyone help?

 

In addition to the other suggestions, for crashes before the main menu you probably want to take a look at your f4se.log as well, to see if there's a problem with one or more of its DLL plugins getting loaded.

Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, EgoBallistic said:

 

TortureDevices is not causing your game to crash.  Something strange is going on because the game is trying to load "n.BA2" which doesn't make sense based on your plugin list.

 

I see you have a bunch of DLL based fix mods - Baka, High FPS Physics, Sprint Stuttering Fix, Weapon Debris Crash Fix, etc.  You shouldn't be using Baka and Buffout 4 at the same time.  I would disable all of those and see if the game loads and go from there.

 

Another odd thing: your plugins list is unusually short:

  Reveal hidden contents

PLUGINS:
    [00]     Fallout4.esm
    [01]     DLCRobot.esm
    [02]     DLCworkshop01.esm
    [03]     DLCCoast.esm
    [04]     DLCworkshop02.esm
    [05]     DLCworkshop03.esm
    [06]     DLCNukaWorld.esm
    [07]     ArmorKeywords.esm
    [08]     HUDFramework.esm
    [09]     XDI.esm
    [0A]     AAF.esm
    [0B]     TortureDevices.esm
    [0C]     Devious Devices.esm
    [0D]     Vioxsis_Strap-Ons.esp
    [FE:000] AAFThemes.esl
    [FE:001] HiPolyFacesCompanionPlugin.esl
    [FE:002] HiPolyFaces.esp
    [FE:003] CBBE.esp
    [FE:004] LooksMenu.esp
    [FE:005] FO4HHS_AAF.esp
    [FE:006] FIS-Naming-Weap-Armo-EN.esp

 

Are those really all the plugins you are using?  If not, something is probably going on with one of the plugins not listed there, like a missing master file.

 

 

Yeah its a new mod setup, that's all my mods for now (I tried installing all the LL stuff earlier this time, because I couldn't isolate the cause of the crash last time), and baka scrapheap and buffout are configured so that they don't clash (no memory managing on buffouts side)

I just disabled all the DLL fix mods with Torture Devices enabled and the game is still not loading in for me. I'm using Vortex and just installing the mod through that. The game launches so long as torture devices is disabled (and I have to click purge mods after disabling it for the game to stop crashing, too).

Not trying to blame the mod or anything btw, just want to fix the issue. Should I try manually installing the files or something?

 

Also idk what n.BA2 is, there's definitely no mods called that installed.

 

Edit: I just disabled every mod except for torture devices, clicked purge mods in Vortex, and whilst I can get to the main menu it just crashes after a few seconds. It's version 2.2, and I'm stumped

 

Edited by mognoi
Posted
4 hours ago, JB. said:

Sorry for the late response, but Torture Devices doesn't bring those textures.

 

The mod is looking for a texture Textures/Decal/_TD_CropDecals.dds which does not exist. Consequently, whips leave no mark on the skin.


Aha.  I’ll upload a fixed version.  Thanks!

Posted (edited)

Okay so, I've uninstalled every single other mod than Torture Devices, and I've purged plugins so my Fallout 4 directory is completely clean. The game is still crashing at startup, can you please test the mod with Vortex? It's the only thing I can think of.

 

Edited by mognoi
Posted
3 hours ago, mognoi said:

Okay so, I've uninstalled every single other mod than Torture Devices, and I've purged plugins so my Fallout 4 directory is completely clean. The game is still crashing at startup, can you please test the mod with Vortex? It's the only thing I can think of.

 

 

I use around 200 mods on my game. I install a minimum of 14 "essential" mods and once I have left the vault I then install the remainder. Torture Devices (TD) is one of those mods I install after leaving the vault. 

 

I have no problems.

 

Have you tried installing TD after leaving the vault?

Posted
4 hours ago, mognoi said:

Okay so, I've uninstalled every single other mod than Torture Devices, and I've purged plugins so my Fallout 4 directory is completely clean. The game is still crashing at startup, can you please test the mod with Vortex? It's the only thing I can think of.

 

Make sure you don't have any loose mods (i.e. not installed through Vortex) in your Fallout 4\Data folder. 

Posted

Alright, so I completely deleted Fallout 4, removed the steam folder for it and removed the folder in my documents. I redownloaded the game and tested it would launch with no mods, and it did. Then I reinstalled this mod completely by itself and my game is still crashing before the main menu.

 

I understand that a lot of people use this with no issues, I have myself in the past, I'm completely lost as for what to do, because in this installation this is the only mod I have. What can I do from here to try fix it?

Posted
28 minutes ago, mognoi said:

I reinstalled this mod completely by itself and my game is still crashing before the main menu.

 

Have you tried redownloading and installing TD ?

Maybe some of the files got corrupted during download or unpacking of the archive.

Have you tried installing it manually ?

 

It's a pretty odd issue since TD has no masters and shouldn't do anything before game load.

In addition to that recreating this issue might be pretty much impossible.

Posted
41 minutes ago, Vader666 said:

 

Have you tried redownloading and installing TD ?

Maybe some of the files got corrupted during download or unpacking of the archive.

Have you tried installing it manually ?

 

It's a pretty odd issue since TD has no masters and shouldn't do anything before game load.

In addition to that recreating this issue might be pretty much impossible.

I have since I went and downloaded the version uploaded yesterday/today (2.2a), I have F4SE installed correctly too, I don't understand why its happening either ?

Posted
30 minutes ago, mognoi said:

I have since I went and downloaded the version uploaded yesterday/today (2.2a), I have F4SE installed correctly too, I don't understand why its happening either ?

 

Kind of grasping at straws here, but in your crash log there was mention of loading loose files

 

    [RSP+D8 ] 0x1EB63D0EEC0      (BSResource::LooseFileLocation*)
    [RSP+E0 ] 0x1EB63D42720      (char*) "DATA\MESHES\AnimTextData\ClipGeneratorData\."

 

Perhaps it is a disk problem?  Do you have another drive you could install the game on?

Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, EgoBallistic said:

 

Kind of grasping at straws here, but in your crash log there was mention of loading loose files

 

    [RSP+D8 ] 0x1EB63D0EEC0      (BSResource::LooseFileLocation*)
    [RSP+E0 ] 0x1EB63D42720      (char*) "DATA\MESHES\AnimTextData\ClipGeneratorData\."

 

Perhaps it is a disk problem?  Do you have another drive you could install the game on?

I just checked its health with CrystalDiskInfo and its in good health with a low rate of error, and I checked my ini file to make sure loose files get loaded (the two options under [archive] (but I don't have another drive, no ?)

Edited by mognoi
Posted
1 hour ago, mognoi said:

I have F4SE installed correctly too

 

Have you tried starting the game with TD but without F4SE ?

The only thing in TD that i could think of being responsible for that behavior would be the MCM... or a faulty .esm.

Posted
54 minutes ago, Vader666 said:

 

Have you tried starting the game with TD but without F4SE ?

The only thing in TD that i could think of being responsible for that behavior would be the MCM... or a faulty .esm.

Just gave that a try, it still crashes without F4SE (this is still the only mod installed)

Posted
On 7/23/2022 at 4:25 PM, mognoi said:

Alright, so I completely deleted Fallout 4, removed the steam folder for it and removed the folder in my documents. I redownloaded the game and tested it would launch with no mods, and it did. Then I reinstalled this mod completely by itself and my game is still crashing before the main menu.

 

I understand that a lot of people use this with no issues, I have myself in the past, I'm completely lost as for what to do, because in this installation this is the only mod I have. What can I do from here to try fix it?

 

One thing I have noticed is that if I have AWKCR installed I can use Torture devices without an issue but as soon as I make a load order without AWKCR this mod crashes before main menu, so you can try just torture devices plus AWKCR and see what happens. I no longer use AWKCR so can no longer use this mod either unfortunately.

Posted
1 hour ago, tpblue said:

 

One thing I have noticed is that if I have AWKCR installed I can use Torture devices without an issue but as soon as I make a load order without AWKCR this mod crashes before main menu, so you can try just torture devices plus AWKCR and see what happens. I no longer use AWKCR so can no longer use this mod either unfortunately.

I no longer use AWKCR and have no issues whatsoever with TD. 

 

I enable TD once I leave the vault. 

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