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12 minutes ago, Bad Dog said:

You've got a real tortured backstory for Kara, which may not be what Blaze had in mind. It might be better to just spin this off as a new character.

Yeah. Obviously not everything can be unicorns and rainbows, and a bit of drama adds to the story; but that suggestion is too harsh for my taste. Even my latest idea from my previous post is a bit too much in my opinion (though I could live with it).

 

Since Kardien seems to really have taken the vampire element into account when coming up with this, I guess we could indeed reuse her story for a different character that is actually meant to be a vampire. Kara isn't the only Lykaios ever, I'm sure we will be able to come up with other characters that look as good as she does (or even better) and are unique.

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Making clothes and other items out of the fur of what are now sentient races is very extreme. I think your story has to acknowledge that, if you're going to keep it. For example, she could have learned all that from a vampire mentor, which means she would have had to be part of that community for a while. 

To be fair, the original Khajiit fur trader (who also happens to be a Khajiit)  from the vanilla lore seems to be pretty nonchalant about it, and even cocky; but then again, other people could have the same attitude about wholesale slaughter and/or rape, so I guess it's not really that surprising.

 

That being said, the vampire connection is good. Vampires are able to blend into society and live among them, which would mean they do have use for wealth that would come from the trade (even the derranged/"mortal-hunter" vampires we see in the lairs have gold and valuables laying around), and most of them seem to think of mortals as nothing more than cattle (even if they were mortals at some point), so I see how they could be okay with trading with and using their furs.

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It could be a bit amusing if you ask "What do you think of Nords" and you get all that about how to use their skins with no warning, and you respond with shock and horror, and she's like "What? What?" like she doesn't even realize there's a problem. Or you could respond like it's all normal and the questline could split into a vampire option and an anti-vampire option. In the anti-vampire questline you would have to lead her back to a human mind-set and re-socialize her.

See, this could work very well if we make her into a separate vampire character. Fur trading could even be the connection between that hypothetical other character and Kara (assuming both of them have it as part of their backstory and we don't remove it from Kara's story altogether, which would be another option).

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4 hours ago, Blaze69 said:

To be fair, the original Khajiit fur trader (who also happens to be a Khajiit)  from the vanilla lore seems to be pretty nonchalant about it, and even cocky;

I followed that link and I don't think I'd characterize the trader quite that way. Clearly it's illegal, clearly they had to fight their (weak) conscience over it, and they're cocky about getting away with something. And part of the problem with clothes is, people see them. So weaving that element into this story has to deal with all that... either an out-group like vampires that doesn't care or maybe a trade among nobles that is rich enough they don't have to care.

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To Bad Dog. Thanks for saying don't cutting thing. I'll try.

To Blaze. If I don't hurt myself. I need intense distraction. I think Companion Project Kara will be excellent distraction. I'll try to run or work hard.

 

Let's make character of Kara.

 

1. kara's brith

 She born during end of Great war. Her Legion battle Mage mother given birth while retake siege of Bravil. Their parents arguing and fight every night by trauma of Great War. Kara's young day was little sad. They fight to each other many times but they have daughter. They didn't broke relation of each other even in no official Marriage stage.

  Kara created by mistake of celebration in victory of battle of Red Ring. They are both drunken at mead that time, accidentally slept together. 

 In age 6 Kara missed her parents who in undergoing Skirmish with Aldmeri Dominion in border of Elsweyr. Aldmeri Dominion's Elsweyr puppet Government killed many anti Thalmor Khajiits. And, every furry in Tamriel know White-Gold concordat mere time buying skim. Kara's parents fight in small group of disguised rogue to help rebellion inside of dominion in near border of Bravil. They fight well in desert of Elsweyr but eventually betrayed by a Altmer secret agent. They hanged alive on Bravil street as unofficial warning for Empire. To worse, Make young Kara watched her parents dying.

 Legion had to deny Kara's parents death cause they can't make this official. They lost veteran Legionnaires but can't give a help to Their daughter Kara. -It's Blaze's choice what her parents rank and race will be-

 Kara lived as street wolf of half madding Bravil. But one day Kara tried stabbed naive Traveler for few septims and food. A female Khajiit who wear weird fur-It's fur of Altmer Cheetah- leather armor -in that time most furry on Bravil wear armor for safety even some where neck guard for prevent cut throat- approach grab her dagger arm. she told there was much better use for dagger. Mean skinning other furry's felt.

 

2. About her Khajiit step mother and Furry Fur trading.

 Kara don't know why The Khajiit grabbed her and gave the work-It's still Kara's best mystery-. The Trader was decedent of Oringal Khajiit Fur Trader Who captured in Dawnguard at hundred years ago. Original Khajiit had only one daughter, taught Fur trading to her. by that, To Kara's step mother Khajiit, it's family tradition female do fur trading job. although she only trade dead furry's fur and Furry who charged murder in prison.

 Despite war aftermath, many furry wanted forbidden Luxury. Female Khajiit had connection at count and countness of Bravil and even in Imperial general who force marshal law in Bravil. khajiit Fur trader adopted Kara because her eye looks same with Trader's sister who made mistake with Thalmor during capture of Bravil then killed and ordered skinned fur by Trader's own paw.

 

3. Her Legion life.

 I need to gather my thought at this point. is there anyone has good idea why kara is bond with Legion? Anyway, Kara did push unskilled framers with pitchfork in battle to invading bandit group when she was Legate. It make her guilt, she obsessed to find weapon which is strong and easy to learn like musket and steam powered Dwemer Gatling crossbow.

 

I need more idea for Kara.Kara_Vampire_1.png.dded4a43285fee8a7495df99bbd9794f.png

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1 hour ago, Kardienlupus said:

To Bad Dog. Thanks for saying don't cutting thing. I'll try.

To Blaze. If I don't hurt myself. I need intense distraction. I think Companion Project Kara will be excellent distraction. I'll try to run or work hard.

Pain bad, video games and anime good. Maybe pick up on Blender and do commission work at some point. All great distractions.

 

Maybe making backstories (especially negative ones) where you may sometimes reflect your own onto it isn't so healthy for your psyche, as it will only keep reminding you of the past. It may be a distraction, but can be a negative one in your case. I'm not saying to run from your past, but if you think you have the will to embrace it, then go for it.

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5 hours ago, NightroModzz said:

Pain bad, video games and anime good. Maybe pick up on Blender and do commission work at some point. All great distractions.

 

Maybe making backstories (especially negative ones) where you may sometimes reflect your own onto it isn't so healthy for your psyche, as it will only keep reminding you of the past. It may be a distraction, but can be a negative one in your case. I'm not saying to run from your past, but if you think you have the will to embrace it, then go for it.

Thanks for saying that. I think I'm half way of embracing it. although my mind somewhat depressed in every day.

 

 I hope My block and lego selling work give me a distraction and little happiness. Because, I love lego and block, more money I earn, more block I can buy and enjoy. Whouldn't mind buy block or custom Skyrim Lego from me? I'll happy yo get money to expend my little lego and other block mixed small hold-It's not big as Whiterun and I named it steadfast hold- but, how greedy am I. Forgot about what I said. but at least some old word was right. "it's the better get wealth in sadness rather sadness in poor."

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8 hours ago, Kardienlupus said:

To Blaze. If I don't hurt myself. I need intense distraction. I think Companion Project Kara will be excellent distraction. I'll try to run or work hard.

Oh, okay. Well, if it does help you, I guess it's worth trying.

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Let's make character of Kara. [...]

That all sounds feasible, more or less. I will have to go through the details and see if there's any that I would like to change a bit, but as a whole I'd say the story could work.

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-It's Blaze's choice what her parents rank and race will be-

No idea on ranks in the Legion or the Battlemage Corps (or whatever they are called), so I guess I'll have to do some reading on the lore about it.

 

As for race, if we follow the standard conventions from Notes on Racial Phylogeny, her mother has to be a Nord, because "Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother", which means they match the mother's race. The father in theory could be of any race, but it would make more sense for him to be a canine. Either another Nord, or an Imperial, I'd say.

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3. Her Legion life.

 I need to gather my thought at this point. is there anyone has good idea why kara is bond with Legion? Anyway, Kara did push unskilled framers with pitchfork in battle to invading bandit group when she was Legate. It make her guilt, she obsessed to find weapon which is strong and easy to learn like musket and steam powered Dwemer Gatling crossbow.

Yeah, this is the part that I'm not too sure about. Her inventing advanced weaponry just like that... doesn't feel right.

 

Plus, I'm pretty sure all of those things exist already in the Elder Scrolls universe. Dwemer ballistas and crossbows are used by many of the automatons and can also be crafted by the player in Dawnguard once you complete the quest to recover the schematics for them; and IIRC there were mentions of powder (or maybe magic?)-based cannons carried by ships back in Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard and some books in Daggerfall.

 

EDIT: as for her bond with the Legion, both her parents served there, so that's a pretty strong connection; and there's also the fact that the Legion (and the Empire) are one of the few things preventing the Thalmor from taking over Tamriel (something she wouldn't want to happen after seeing what horrors the Great War brought), so she would be willing to join it and help protect the Empire and all of mankind huh, dogkind? from the evil Thalmor plans to "undo" the world and erase them from existance.

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 To Blaze. Her pursuit of easy and mess murder weapon; The things more easier and powerful weapon than crossbow; are. Can be called mess production or even named invention. Like Steam Engine existed before industrial revolution but later invented better and profitable version by James Watt then start age of modern.

 The ingredients of what kara want to invent already existed in Tamriel : Dewmer steam machine, Fire, Frost, Void salts and previous attempt or idea of concept of cannon existed before her. However her aim is put them in mess production just like Printing press not only existed but used in mess production and thus create The Press Black horse Courier. Start era of mess media.

 

 Kara's obsession of saving as many people as possible from Enemy are leading mess murder stuff. But she don't know these thing she want will open world of horror like World War I in real World. In real world, concept of new weapons are existed but hard to get and expensive thus not mess produced before war. But people find way to produce in mess horror and endless warfare starts.

 

Blaze said " just like that... doesn't feel right." I know this feeling. So. 'make those weapon in mess and distribute to common populace' quest have a option of choice. You can persuade to stop her then put her talent to better use. like make good things for furry in Tamriel I thought questline with two choice.

 

P.S I always open for different opinion.

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1 hour ago, NightroModzz said:

Not really my thing, but since Christmas is close by, I'll keep it in mind and may pick something up at a later date. Hell, my sister got me a lego set last year (still wondering why), and has yet to be opened.

How about resell your sister's Lego for money? Good condition upopened Lego have much value. Scence it's gift from your sister you can use lego selling money for what you want. :) As long as you happy. You sister will like it.

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5 hours ago, Kardienlupus said:

Blaze said " just like that... doesn't feel right." I know this feeling. So. 'make those weapon in mess and distribute to common populace' quest have a option of choice. You can persuade to stop her then put her talent to better use. like make good things for furry in Tamriel I thought questline with two choice.

 

P.S I always open for different opinion.

That's not exactly what I meant to say. I mean, yeah, what you said too; but I mostly meant to say that having her as some mad inventor trying to bring modern warfare machines to Tamriel simply doesn't feel good as a plot device. I just don't think it fits her, or at least not my image of her.

 

I'd honestly look for a different plot device for her story that isn't "help her make it easier to kill people by creating more effective weapons or prevent her from doing so". Just my two cents, though.

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19 minutes ago, Kardienlupus said:

To Blaze : I got it.

 Then we have choice. Let's Forget mad inventor plan then make new Plot. What plot on your mind?

As I think I've mentioned already, I'm not at my best right now and I can't really seem to come up with anything. It's pretty frustrating because I can tell that some of your previous suggestions (like the "mad inventor" thing) don't fit with my image of her and the story I would like to give her, but when I try to think about what that image is and what I actually want, I go blank. Please don't think I just criticise without offering any alternatives, because that's not my intention at all.

 

I'll keep at it and see what happens, but in the meantime, if you (or anybody else) have any other ideas you want to suggest, I'm all ears.

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25 minutes ago, Kardienlupus said:

My canceled mad inventor version of Kara.

 


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Like this:

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EDIT: yup, that worked. For anybody wondering, to embed a YT video in a post you just need to paste the standard youtube link (not the "embed" one or anything like that, just the standard one you get when you visit the video in YT) and click elsewhere in the reply box, and the forum code should auto-embed it just like it did above.

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To Blaze : what do you think about tuned version or Kara's dream quest?

 

 Scene she was young. She dreamed about flying sky like legendary bird race-Bad Dog bird mod-. Furry like Kara's pretty dream. There is crude version of earlier airship existed but Kara want to be practical, efficient, mess producible-Kara want many people enjoy sky-Ship. Thus she got interested in inventing. As tribune she applied to stationed Skyrim to See Dwermer ruin when civil war is done. But general Tullius wants more practical than Airship thus better weapon than steel crossbow. She tried to do it in one hand but it's slipping over her hand every time until meet helping hand Player.

 During long quest, she prepared recreate skyrim version of news paper, She made good printing press machine-but their were no working media system in during civil war and it's aftermath/ more practical reason we need people for making news paper format or Skyrim version of Black horse courier- and musket and movable small crossbow repeating gun-gun need be simple as flintlock or matchlock; So, Crossbow repeater does. And, provide chance better blade sharping tool-for melee user- . these long inventing quest eventually lead a good lore friendly airship making and it's working-we need got airship from other mod like moonpath of Elsweyr, and make able to visit skuldafn-.

 

 To do that she need inventing place-I think place near port Graymoor will be good choice. Tullius can send few people to help kara and player. It's worthly act they also keep fort-.

 

 In Lore, before oblivion crisis Emprie reached almost near modern society. practical airship and it's defending cannon will be lore friendly.

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Been a while since I posted on here, just barely getting back into Skyrim after a 3-4 month hiatus. Anyone remember me? I was that guy that asked for SFW statues a while back. XD

At any rate, I have a question:

https://i.imgur.com/gvj1IA7.png

 

I had this issue back in my High Elf Mage character, admittedly, but I'm wondering what could be causing that white seam on the back of any worn cuirass? Seems to happen with most if not all cuirasses in the game, from the base game, dlc, and probably even supported mod armors. I have a feeling that it may be a Yiffy Age issue, but perhaps it's something I'm doing wrong on my end?

 

On a unrelated note, I remember there being talk of an Immersive Armors patch, is that still planned? Would it come after the v5.0 update? While we're speaking of patches, I'd really like it if some patches of skyrimlazz's player homes could be made. Most notably, Dragonfall Castle (Probably his best home, although to be fair, the only other one I used was Ayleid Palace Remastered. Dragonfall is a little more lore-friendly in comparison though.) that particular home houses a unique set of armor (looks pretty good too) it seems that a custom mesh for the helmet would be required for the patch. Plus there's a custom statue in the pool room that could be furryfied. Not too mention, there's quite a few npcs added that could be given custom looks & such if desired, they're otherwise generic/not unique. I've got a very basic self-made patch set up & working for it. (Just all but the manikin race is removed from the armor addon for helmets & boots) it'd be nice if ya'll could touch it up though.

 

As far as the discussion for the custom npc, Kara goes, the concept sounds nice, but I think additional npcs not included in the vanilla game, dlc, or patches, would be best made as a separate mod with YA as a dependency. In my opinion at least.

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1 hour ago, MS1 said:

Been a while since I posted on here, just barely getting back into Skyrim after a 3-4 month hiatus. Anyone remember me? I was that guy that asked for SFW statues a while back. XD

At any rate, I have a question:

https://i.imgur.com/gvj1IA7.png

 

I had this issue back in my High Elf Mage character, admittedly, but I'm wondering what could be causing that white seam on the back of any worn cuirass? Seems to happen with most if not all cuirasses in the game, from the base game, dlc, and probably even supported mod armors. I have a feeling that it may be a Yiffy Age issue, but perhaps it's something I'm doing wrong on my end?

Not exactly sure what the problem looks like, since I can't see the image upon opening the link. Do you have the image set to private on imgur? 

 

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As far as the discussion for the custom npc, Kara goes, the concept sounds nice, but I think additional npcs not included in the vanilla game, dlc, or patches, would be best made as a separate mod with YA as a dependency. In my opinion at least.

The idea is essentially the same as what the Shark Race mod already does, i.e adding followers/NPCs to the game, which the mentioned mod's main version caters to Yiffy Age specifically, including vanilla NPC's fitting Yiffy Age's aesthetics. Though the Shark Race mod does offer the followers and NPCs as part of an optional plugin, so it would still be very similar. I personally would not have a problem if the character was part of Yiffy Age by default, though it of course isn't my call to make. 

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10 hours ago, Kardienlupus said:

To Blaze : what do you think about tuned version or Kara's dream quest?

To be honest, I simply don't like the idea of her inventing or researching anything, or at least not any of the stuff that you suggested so far. But there's also the fact that there is another main limiting factor on what can be done for her quest and her backstory that you don't seem to be taking into account: technical limitations. And also skill limitations.

 

So far, my skills with coding and mod-making and such only go so far, and pretty much all of the suggestions you have made so far are outside of my current skill level. That doesn't mean it couldn't be done if we found a more experienced modder willing to work on the project or I did some research to try to improve my skills, but as it stands right now, it's simply not an option.

 

If you want an example of the most complex custom follower I can create, that would be Mizuno from my shark mod. He has a custom quest to get him as a follower, and once he's a follower, he has custom dialogue options to ask about his thoughts and a few other things. That's pretty much as complex as Kara could get with my current skills. With some work I could probably come up with more intrincate quests for her, but not by much.

6 hours ago, PaulGreen said:

Are the lykaios eyes in the intended future release of 'yiffy age' using the same textures for them that were in the current available 'yiffy age' or are they different ?

If you are asking whether Kritta created any new eye textures for the Lykaios update (different from the current ones) and whether said textures are going to be included in the next version of YA, then the answer to both questions is yes.

2 hours ago, MS1 said:

I had this issue back in my High Elf Mage character, admittedly, but I'm wondering what could be causing that white seam on the back of any worn cuirass? Seems to happen with most if not all cuirasses in the game, from the base game, dlc, and probably even supported mod armors. I have a feeling that it may be a Yiffy Age issue, but perhaps it's something I'm doing wrong on my end?

I'm not completely sure because the image is pretty low-res, but that looks like the loincloth/fundoshi underwear clipping through the clothes. That would mean the clothes were not assigned the Slot 52 as they should have so they cover the underwear when worn and you don't get the clipping.

 

Which in turn means two things: either SOS derped at some point and failed at "schlongifying" armors (it means adding Slot 52 to all non-revealing body items in the game) or you don't have SOS installed, which you should (even if you don't use any schlong addons, you still need the base SOS install because it includes the base male body meshes and the Slot 52 code).

2 hours ago, MS1 said:

As far as the discussion for the custom npc, Kara goes, the concept sounds nice, but I think additional npcs not included in the vanilla game, dlc, or patches, would be best made as a separate mod with YA as a dependency. In my opinion at least.

As Kuroyami said, the mod will probably be made as a separate plugin dependent on YA if/when it's made. Whether said plugin will be included in the main YA download or offered as a separate file, we still haven't decided yet, but even if we pack it into the main file, all you need to do if you want to skip it is to not enable the extra plugin or even delete it altogether.

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8 hours ago, PaulGreen said:

 

   Are the lykaios eyes in the intended future release of 'yiffy age' using the same textures for them that were in the current available 'yiffy age' or are they different?

 

Ya, same mesh, new textures.

 

I think Kara is best as a separate mod. I'd be happy to include her in the base downloads but seems to me she deserves her own page.

 

Patch requests are noted. Nag me once YA5 is out.

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