toys Shout Like a Virgin Evolved LE

[Bushi Neko]

:-0 Wow.. now that grew.

I like SD.. but I did wish it had more of all you mentioned..

I must confess it will be a bit before I go to deep in this again now.. since I did my big mod makeover again I didn't even bother with firing up any old save attempts.. Just file away the really good ones for re add maybe.. Fresh game again, fresh character and so far.. she is safe.. so far. Minus the DCL crap that just messed me over twice. Just got loose and nailed me again! Grrrrr. Gonna' make someone pay out of GP ( she is not a nice character anyway... so someone has to pay )

[sfeile]

 

You guys might find this interesting.... SD+ was actually, specifically, the very source of inspiration for this mod, via my husband. He wrote down this list...

 

Enslave like SD+ but with:

More use of furniture

More use of devices?

More use of cage

More activities and choice

Choice of punish versus sex

Can adventure and return, or adventure tied into serving

Different way to get gear back? - maybe tied to retrieving Dibella Statue

Gotta do something with spit roast

 

That's the un-edited, exactly what I started with, wish list, all starting with being "like SD+". It had no virginity and no shouting in the initial list lol.  The list then grew with a tonne of other things. And the virginity theme actually came from my gaming name which had been VirginMarie for years before even touching Skyrim.

 

 

 

I like all the ideas, and I like where you are wanting to go, just please don't ever tie it into SD+.  I wanted to play that mod but that stupid daylmodzjk or whatever the crap that requirement for SD is ALWAYS screwed my game.

Yours runs smooth, and is active and interesting without being bloated or ridiculously confining. You can play your mod WHILE playing the game, and not have to put the game on hold to play the mod. 

 

I would like to see this go further with more options, but in the same great way that you have already incorporated it as part of the game.

[VirginMarie]

:-0 Wow.. now that grew.

I like SD.. but I did wish it had more of all you mentioned..

I must confess it will be a bit before I go to deep in this again now.. since I did my big mod makeover again I didn't even bother with firing up any old save attempts.. Just file away the really good ones for re add maybe.. Fresh game again, fresh character and so far.. she is safe.. so far. Minus the DCL crap that just messed me over twice. Just got loose and nailed me again! Grrrrr. Gonna' make someone pay out of GP ( she is not a nice character anyway... so someone has to pay )

 

Here's your waterfall. Nice pick you made  Oh and you made me lose my virginity in the making of this picture.

 

The impassioned Dragonbridge Jeorg waterfall beckons me

 

[VirginMarie]

 

 

You guys might find this interesting.... SD+ was actually, specifically, the very source of inspiration for this mod, via my husband. He wrote down this list...

 

Enslave like SD+ but with:

More use of furniture

More use of devices?

More use of cage

More activities and choice

Choice of punish versus sex

Can adventure and return, or adventure tied into serving

Different way to get gear back? - maybe tied to retrieving Dibella Statue

Gotta do something with spit roast

 

That's the un-edited, exactly what I started with, wish list, all starting with being "like SD+". It had no virginity and no shouting in the initial list lol.  The list then grew with a tonne of other things. And the virginity theme actually came from my gaming name which had been VirginMarie for years before even touching Skyrim.

 

 

 

I like all the ideas, and I like where you are wanting to go, just please don't ever tie it into SD+.  I wanted to play that mod but that stupid daylmodzjk or whatever the crap that requirement for SD is ALWAYS screwed my game.

Yours runs smooth, and is active and interesting without being bloated or ridiculously confining. You can play your mod WHILE playing the game, and not have to put the game on hold to play the mod. 

 

I would like to see this go further with more options, but in the same great way that you have already incorporated it as part of the game.

 

 

You are echoing exactly my goals. I've seen mods become too bloated so that's one thing I fear doing and want to stay away from. Simplification of something working nice and well is better than something complicated.

 

I think the best wish item in the list from my hubby, is the "Can adventure and return, or adventure tied into serving".. I will never stray from this. You said it as "You can play your mod WHILE playing the game".

[sfeile]

 

You are echoing exactly my goals. I've seen mods become too bloated so that's one thing I fear doing and want to stay away from. Simplification of something working nice and well is better than something complicated.

 

I think the best wish item in the list from my hubby, is the "Can adventure and return, or adventure tied into serving".. I will never stray from this. You said it as "You can play your mod WHILE playing the game".

 

 

That is good to hear. I'm really liking this and anxious too see where you will take it next.

[Nazzzgul666]

loadorder.txt

 

 

You guys might find this interesting.... SD+ was actually, specifically, the very source of inspiration for this mod, via my husband. He wrote down this list...

 

Enslave like SD+ but with:

More use of furniture

More use of devices?

More use of cage

More activities and choice

Choice of punish versus sex

Can adventure and return, or adventure tied into serving

Different way to get gear back? - maybe tied to retrieving Dibella Statue

Gotta do something with spit roast

 

That's the un-edited, exactly what I started with, wish list, all starting with being "like SD+". It had no virginity and no shouting in the initial list lol.  The list then grew with a tonne of other things. And the virginity theme actually came from my gaming name which had been VirginMarie for years before even touching Skyrim.

 

I totally forgot that it IS possible to use SD+ as a soft requirement, but i'm much more intrested in your ideas right now.

 

 

I like all the ideas, and I like where you are wanting to go, just please don't ever tie it into SD+.  I wanted to play that mod but that stupid daylmodzjk or whatever the crap that requirement for SD is ALWAYS screwed my game.

Yours runs smooth, and is active and interesting without being bloated or ridiculously confining. You can play your mod WHILE playing the game, and not have to put the game on hold to play the mod. 

 

I would like to see this go further with more options, but in the same great way that you have already incorporated it as part of the game.

 

If you ever want to give daymoyl a second try: there is a new version with a lot of fixes, i didn't try if they really work because it's possible to turn pretty much everything off. I missed that defeat has it's own "essential" system now, i think that is everything that is needed for SD+ too. But turning everything off except the defeat (bleedout) option works very fine for me, that might be the same for SD+. But the last time i checked the bug list on github, i lost my motivation to use SD+ itself. Hopefully skyrimLL can fix them.

 

*Edit: why i actually posted here. Did you change something with the devices, besides the new harness? Now the nipple guards push up my breasts, so the chain from the collar fits.

Doesn't work for the clamps, though. And wearing the nipple guard makes the harness (all of them) invisible. That works with clamps. Can anybody else try to reproduce it to see if it's only my game?

I could imagine it's something with my load order, but i have no clue where to put what, until now it was always fine to use loot.

loadorder.txt

[Bushi Neko]

 

:-0 Wow.. now that grew.

I like SD.. but I did wish it had more of all you mentioned..

I must confess it will be a bit before I go to deep in this again now.. since I did my big mod makeover again I didn't even bother with firing up any old save attempts.. Just file away the really good ones for re add maybe.. Fresh game again, fresh character and so far.. she is safe.. so far. Minus the DCL crap that just messed me over twice. Just got loose and nailed me again! Grrrrr. Gonna' make someone pay out of GP ( she is not a nice character anyway... so someone has to pay )

 

Here's your waterfall. Nice pick you made  Oh and you made me lose my virginity in the making of this picture.

 

The impassioned Dragonbridge Jeorg waterfall beckons me

 

ScreenShot1061.png

 

 

Thanks, that's great! Now immortalized via the net! :-)

 

But on a serious note. Its been some long long long time since I heard any mention of any such thing as being responsible for someone losing the virginity.  So I can only say this.   Takes two. ( min. ) :-p

 

[panthercom]

 I'm getting a CTD when I activate the shrine of Clavicus VIle. I am engaged in the quest with Barbas for the first

time. I've never used a previous version of this mod. I see no map marker for 'worship at the shrine ' to the

left of the statue, although it will play an idle if I activate that .

 

SQV virgintraining shows

 

enable:yes

state:running

current stage 5

priority 70

 

My journal says I need to gain Vile's trust, and specifically refers to the quest with Barbas the dog

 

[Nazzzgul666]

 I'm getting a CTD when I activate the shrine of Clavicus VIle. I am engaged in the quest with Barbas for the first

time. I've never used a previous version of this mod. I see no map marker for 'worship at the shrine ' to the

left of the statue, although it will play an idle if I activate that .

 

SQV virgintraining shows

 

enable:yes

state:running

current stage 5

priority 70

 

My journal says I need to gain Vile's trust, and specifically refers to the quest with Barbas the dog

Don't know about the stages, but you have to finish the clavicus quest before you can worship at the left side. And if i remember right, you need the ending where you get the mask.

If it crashes when you worship clavicus statue and you didn't finish it yet: did you try to do this quest without virgin installed? Maybe there is a problem or conflict with another mod?

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

 

*Edit: why i actually posted here. Did you change something with the devices, besides the new harness? no Now the nipple guards push up my breasts, so the chain from the collar fits.

Doesn't work for the clamps, though. And wearing the nipple guard makes the harness (all of them) invisible. not normal, but nor is your body. I still believe your body setup is just not entirely compatible. For me, guards can be worn with any of the harnesses and they are not invisible That works with clamps. Can anybody else try to reproduce it to see if it's only my game?

I could imagine it's something with my load order, but i have no clue where to put what, until now it was always fine to use loot. I don't think there's much about load order that can impact the outcome and loot would be fine. Anything related to HDT could. like what happens if you take out HDT Female Hairstyles, ZaZHDTWorkshop (what the heck is that?), HDTHair_Sky201, WeightMorphs, other Morphs... damn you have a lot of potential conflicts in there imo.

loadorder.txt

 

Also, you could stop worrying about your nipples and find your waterfall, even with no harness on.

[VirginMarie]

 

 I'm getting a CTD when I activate the shrine of Clavicus VIle. I am engaged in the quest with Barbas for the first time.

If this is the activator on the center of the statue (not the one on the side marked "worship"), then it means you are crashing on activation of a vanilla skyrim quest and has nothing to do with this mod. My bet is the crash is when Clavicus plays the audio speech you would normally hear at this point

I've never used a previous version of this mod. I see no map marker for 'worship at the shrine ' to the

left of the statue, although it will play an idle if I activate that . Normal on both accounts. You wont have a marker if the Barbas quest is not complete. Activating Worship will always make you play the worship idle regardless

 

SQV virgintraining shows

 

enable:yes

state:running

current stage 5  - this means the quest is waiting for you to complete the Barbas quest

priority 70

 

My journal says I need to gain Vile's trust, and specifically refers to the quest with Barbas the dog

 

Don't know about the stages, but you have to finish the clavicus quest before you can worship at the left side. And if i remember right, you need the ending where you get the mask. na, any ending works

If it crashes when you worship clavicus statue and you didn't finish it yet: did you try to do this quest without virgin installed? Maybe there is a problem or conflict with another mod?

 

To summarize, your problem is not actually related to this mod. The Barbas quest (A Daedra's Best Friend) is a vanilla Skyrim quest. You crash when Clavicus begins to speak. This mod has not modified that quest, nor the activator on the statue. You would almost certainly crash doing that quest without this mod loaded.

 

And I don't know how this could happen. But where I'd start is to consider that you might be playing using a bad save, corrupted by too many change etc. Did you start a new game? If no, what happens if you get to this same point on a new game?

[Nazzzgul666]

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Edit: why i actually posted here. Did you change something with the devices, besides the new harness? no Now the nipple guards push up my breasts, so the chain from the collar fits.

Doesn't work for the clamps, though. And wearing the nipple guard makes the harness (all of them) invisible. not normal, but nor is your body. I still believe your body setup is just not entirely compatible. For me, guards can be worn with any of the harnesses and they are not invisible That works with clamps. Can anybody else try to reproduce it to see if it's only my game?

I could imagine it's something with my load order, but i have no clue where to put what, until now it was always fine to use loot. I don't think there's much about load order that can impact the outcome and loot would be fine. Anything related to HDT could. like what happens if you take out HDT Female Hairstyles, ZaZHDTWorkshop (what the heck is that?), HDTHair_Sky201, WeightMorphs, other Morphs... damn you have a lot of potential conflicts in there imo.

loadorder.txt

 

Also, you could stop worrying about your nipples and find your waterfall, even with no harness on.

 

Weight morphs is new, not entirely sure if i installed it before or after getting equipped again. I can try that and the female hairstyles. Totally forgot about the ZazHDTworkshop, it's a requirement for ME, actually it just provides some textures there... not sure if it does anything else.

But the whole morph things shouldn't mess around with any equipment, at least they never did before. And with all of them using NiO, there shouldn't be any conflicts, the only problematic thing afaik is morphing hipbones while wearing HDTheels, that causes the "feet in ground bug".

 

It's not that important to me because i can live with invisible harnesses and without clamps, but i'll try some tests next week i think.

[panthercom]

 I did a little digging, and it appears that mods that add dialog can cause a CTD like what I experienced.

I'm running Pet Collar and Sexlab Eager NPC's, so I'll try removing those and see what happens. Those

two mods, and Defeat are the only Sexlab mods I have (with their dependencies). Some companion mods

could also cause a problem.

[nufndash]

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

[mercplatypus]

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

[VirginMarie]

 

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

 

Well the News only has a teaser pic, with no name given

Must have read the "next release" notes in the spoiler here  shhhhhhhh!

[sfeile]

 

 

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

 

Well the News only has a teaser pic, with no name given

Must have read the "next release" notes in the spoiler here  shhhhhhhh!

 

 

After reading that, I have a question about he new device. Since it is an asset from Nooblet, are you going to make it compatible for CBBE? I love Nooblet's stuff, but don't use UUNP, so it never worked for me.

[slutofshades]

 

 

 

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

 

Well the News only has a teaser pic, with no name given

Must have read the "next release" notes in the spoiler here  shhhhhhhh!

 

 

After reading that, I have a question about he new device. Since it is an asset from Nooblet, are you going to make it compatible for CBBE? I love Nooblet's stuff, but don't use UUNP, so it never worked for me.

 

 

 

If given me permission, once the items are out there... I'll make a set of CBBE sliders for the new items.

[VirginMarie]

 

 

 

 

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

 

Well the News only has a teaser pic, with no name given

Must have read the "next release" notes in the spoiler here  shhhhhhhh!

 

 

After reading that, I have a question about he new device. Since it is an asset from Nooblet, are you going to make it compatible for CBBE? I love Nooblet's stuff, but don't use UUNP, so it never worked for me.

 

 

 

If given me permission, once the items are out there... I'll make a set of CBBE sliders for the new items.

 

 

Some of Nooblet's stuff needs bodyslide support, but this item is not impacted by weight. Like any collar, I do not believe it needs any bodyslide support. Been testing out fine without.

[nufndash]

 

 

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

 

Well the News only has a teaser pic, with no name given

Must have read the "next release" notes in the spoiler here  shhhhhhhh!

 

Oh crap.....there is always that one guy in every thread......this time its me.  I am going to quietly back out of this thread now....

 

P.S.  Great job on this mod, I love it.  I am using SD+, Cursed loot, Defeat, Death Alternative, and the very long list of soft dependencies for SD+, and have not run into a single issue.  Everything is playing fine together.  

[mercplatypus]

 

 

 

Well I was going to ask about this yesterday, but now I can't find where I read it.  It was called, I think, Virgin breast torture collar.  Is this in the mod yet, or, more than likely, I am on LL way too much and "breast" , "torture", and "collar", are just infused into my brain.

The news section states that that is for next release.

 

Well the News only has a teaser pic, with no name given

Must have read the "next release" notes in the spoiler here  shhhhhhhh!

 

Oh crap.....there is always that one guy in every thread......this time its me.  I am going to quietly back out of this thread now....

 

P.S.  Great job on this mod, I love it.  I am using SD+, Cursed loot, Defeat, Death Alternative, and the very long list of soft dependencies for SD+, and have not run into a single issue.  Everything is playing fine together.  

 

I think everyone who has posted on this website has at one point or another been that guy.  Don't sweat it too much.

[Nazzzgul666]

Ok, although it's not that important, it freaks me out not to know what wrong with the harness and clamps.

I've made a new profile with requirements only and standard CBBE body and it's still exactly the same, started a new game and even re-downloaded virgin & installed that one.

Question: has anybody tested clamps & new full harness with CBBE?

The problem: harness stays invisible and behaves strange in general, it doesn't seem to equip properly with scripts too just lag i guess. The clamps hover anywhere between my nipples and my neck, my breasts won't go up to fit as the nipple guard does.

I can't find them at all in bodyslide either.

 

So, maybe one of the remaining mods is totally outdated and something is wrong here, i couldn't find something, though. Or i'm missing a requirement anybody else has by default. Or one of the fwe mods left is in a wrong order. 

*edit: checked the meshes/virgin folder. There are .nif files for virginharness, virginRopeharness, and a virginSholderharness_1.nif, but no ..._0.nif and no ..._GO.nif. I'd assume, that's a reason the harness doesn't show up.

It would be great if anybody could confirm that i'm not the only one too stupid to download those files.

loadorder.txt

 

Since it's not that big here, complete install list:

http://prntscr.com/ci90xb

[slutofshades]

The clamps should be working on the CBBE body, I'm pretty sure thats Virginmarie's body of choice anyway.... and there definitely should be bodyslide data for the clamps under the outfit name "Virgin Nipple Clamps" and definitely has CBBE sliders for it.

 

Have you redownloaded -and- installed the bodyslide data? (I know thats a silly question, but I always start with the silly ones when troubleshooting)

 

As for the new "Full Harness". It shouldn't be invisible at all, the only error with that at the moment is it puts a second body on you when you wear it (Causes clipping issues). That problem is being fixed in a coming update I believe.

[Nazzzgul666]

The clamps should be working on the CBBE body, I'm pretty sure thats Virginmarie's body of choice anyway.... and there definitely should be bodyslide data for the clamps under the outfit name "Virgin Nipple Clamps" and definitely has CBBE sliders for it.

 

Have you redownloaded -and- installed the bodyslide data? (I know thats a silly question, but I always start with the silly ones when troubleshooting)

 

As for the new "Full Harness". It shouldn't be invisible at all, the only error with that at the moment is it puts a second body on you when you wear it (Causes clipping issues). That problem is being fixed in a coming update I believe.

Uhhh... the bodylide data is only for UNP i thought? 

[slutofshades]

 

The clamps should be working on the CBBE body, I'm pretty sure thats Virginmarie's body of choice anyway.... and there definitely should be bodyslide data for the clamps under the outfit name "Virgin Nipple Clamps" and definitely has CBBE sliders for it.

 

Have you redownloaded -and- installed the bodyslide data? (I know thats a silly question, but I always start with the silly ones when troubleshooting)

 

As for the new "Full Harness". It shouldn't be invisible at all, the only error with that at the moment is it puts a second body on you when you wear it (Causes clipping issues). That problem is being fixed in a coming update I believe.

Uhhh... the bodylide data is only for UNP i thought? 

 

 

 

Actually they've got more for CBBE than UNP... most of the bodyslides have an Imitation UNP slider, which quasi-conforms them to UUNP.

 

Grab and install the bodyslides, run them through Bodyslide as you do with other outfits, see if that fixes any of them (with the exception of clipping on the full harness)

 

EDIT :: Ignore what this edit said.... and the advice... I just realised the main install -does- come with bodyslide data....

 

Next "stupid" idea.... just to check, you're running Bodyslide through Mod Organizer?

 

as for the absense of an _0.nif in the shapedata folder, there shouldnt be one. the .nif files in shape data are the base shapes, the _0.nif and _1.nifs are the mesh at 0 weight and 1 weight.... afaik. They are generated by Bodyslide and put into what ever folder you have as the output.