[Abandoned] Devious Device - More Devious Quest

[Reesewow]

It seems that this mod does not recognize followers managed by Amazing Follower Tweaks - says 'not in your service' when I try to cast [sT Command]

 

Works fine for me using AFT, you need to have them deviced + at high arousal before they will approach to initiate that mode.  After that you can use the spell on them.

[Versh]

Like Reesewow2 Said...

 

Anyway in the next update the system will be simplified.

[pinky6225]

It seems that this mod does not recognize followers managed by Amazing Follower Tweaks - says 'not in your service' when I try to cast [sT Command]

 

You get that if they haven't done their arousal dialogue where they agree to serve you, i've noticed if you have a mod that amends a npc it seems to do that mods dialogue as higher priority than this one so you dont get the dialogue so you can't use the spell.

 

 

 

 

[Verstort]

Would it be possible to alter the slut madness dialogue to take into account if the slut is wearing a gag?

 

Seems silly when a gagged slave can walk up and plead to people, I keep expecting muffled sounds instead. Some mods lay a bunch of slaves around an area, and whether they're bound or gagged they still get madness and start moving around and talking to people.

 

Detecting if they're bound with xaz might be too hard, but detecting if they have equiped a xaz or DD gag should be fairly straight forward.

[Versh]

Yeah, I've missed the gag thing in some system, my fault

 

About the caged npc I shall think about a bit...

[grifterrik]

Hey Versh,

 

Thanks for the advice. I've decided to wait till .904 before considering updating, since I realised I would deactivate the mood system anyway for papyrus performance. So many mods... so many scripts! If I change my mind, I'll definitely follow your advice.

 

Thanks so much for working on your mod, appreciate it heaps.

For the record i fixed that little problem in my game by removing the old version before updating, rather than over the top. I didn't need to clean save or even load into the game between steps, and have noticed no corruption or script lag since doing it.

 

I don't think i came back to report that and should have.

[chipstick]

 

Hey Versh,

 

Thanks for the advice. I've decided to wait till .904 before considering updating, since I realised I would deactivate the mood system anyway for papyrus performance. So many mods... so many scripts! If I change my mind, I'll definitely follow your advice.

 

Thanks so much for working on your mod, appreciate it heaps.

For the record i fixed that little problem in my game by removing the old version before updating, rather than over the top. I didn't need to clean save or even load into the game between steps, and have noticed no corruption or script lag since doing it.

 

I don't think i came back to report that and should have.

 

 

Hi Grifterrik,

 

Thanks for coming back just to tell me that. Appreciate it Unfortunately, that doesn't work for me, as I never just overwrote. Always did an uninstall --> reinstall --> load game. Still no MCM update. So now it looks like theres definitely some idiosyncracies happening between different peoples games or saves... yours can update that way, but mine cant.

 

*Sadface*

 

[pinky6225]

Question will the excluder spell cast on a NPC exclude them from the sanguine training part of the mod as well?

[xboronx]

Just a quick thanks for 0.903, i upgraded in the middle of my game and the quests work again now. The dirty confessions job lines are very fun

[Versh]

Question will the excluder spell cast on a NPC exclude them from the sanguine training part of the mod as well?

 

Yes, it should...

 

 

Just a quick thanks for 0.903, i upgraded in the middle of my game and the quests work again now. The dirty confessions job lines are very fun

 

 

_________________________________

 

 

NEWS:

 

A quick general fix about minor things

 

-Fixed SM Creature Probability (Old Keyword System conflict with the new)

-Fixed Sm ChainActivity using categories not allowed

-Fixed MCM not updating correctly

-Fixed ST: Now the Npc -Current Follower- become in service of the player when collared (no dialog, direct using of the spell)

-Fixed Better updating of the ShameAnim for the Player

-Fixed Unicode character in the DC comment

-Fixed: Minor language error

-Fos: Need Line of Sight between watched and watcher to gain fame

-Fos: Mcm page now will show the level of fame as string with a numeric reference

-Mood System MCM clearification (also fixed a label error)

 

No new add, features, system etc.

 

Anyway, Future Plans:

Due the limitation of the current system I'm taking some times to make an overhaul of the mod to increase the performance.

 

So the next update will require a complete reset of the mod

[DbatRT]

I really liked your mod. I would like to make some suggestions.

System of Fame of Slut (FoS) is good, but as far as I know, she adds fame only during the active stage. I would suggest. To every time NPC saw PC devices, this would strengthen the fame. I hope it can be implemented.

Also I would like to add to the list item FoS "naked." Ie to fame was added when the NPC saw bare PC. I think it will work well with the mod Get Stripped.

This is something like a small system of rumors about player.

In any case, thank you for your wonderful modification.
Sorry for the bad english.

[sigure]

thanks for the update, i found that in this update, my ST pet's slutness starts at -2, because of that my pet can not perform any order. did i missed something? or it was a bug

[Morferous]

I really liked your mod. I would like to make some suggestions.

 

 

System of Fame of Slut (FoS) is good, but as far as I know, she adds fame only during the active stage. I would suggest. To every time NPC saw PC devices, this would strengthen the fame. I hope it can be implemented.

 

Also I would like to add to the list item FoS "naked." Ie to fame was added when the NPC saw bare PC. I think it will work well with the mod Get Stripped.

 

This is something like a small system of rumors about player.

 

 

In any case, thank you for your wonderful modification.

Sorry for the bad english.

 

I would kindly object the first part under the spoiler. Devices can be locked to character for slutty behavior, but they can also be locked by character herself to protect her chastity. Wouldn't raising FoS for the latter one conflict with the intent?

 

Or, did I just misunderstood "devices" from character action to DD items?

[trixie81]

I'm not sure why, but since I've installed the new version and started a new game I've lost this mod from the MCM menu. The DD-More Quest and notification comes up, and my character is covering up so I know the shame effect is kicking in (precisely what I want to turn off) and it's nowhere to be found to actually do so.

[ipse]

I'm not sure why, but since I've installed the new version and started a new game I've lost this mod from the MCM menu. The DD-More Quest and notification comes up, and my character is covering up so I know the shame effect is kicking in (precisely what I want to turn off) and it's nowhere to be found to actually do so.

I have the same problem with the menu after the upgrade to the new version.

[DbatRT]

 

I really liked your mod. I would like to make some suggestions.

 

 

System of Fame of Slut (FoS) is good, but as far as I know, she adds fame only during the active stage. I would suggest. To every time NPC saw PC devices, this would strengthen the fame. I hope it can be implemented.

 

Also I would like to add to the list item FoS "naked." Ie to fame was added when the NPC saw bare PC. I think it will work well with the mod Get Stripped.

 

This is something like a small system of rumors about player.

 

 

In any case, thank you for your wonderful modification.

Sorry for the bad english.

 

I would kindly object the first part under the spoiler. Devices can be locked to character for slutty behavior, but they can also be locked by character herself to protect her chastity. Wouldn't raising FoS for the latter one conflict with the intent?

 

Or, did I just misunderstood "devices" from character action to DD items?

 

I will clarify. Fame will be added only for visible devices. A chastity belt can be hidden under clothing, and this should not be a problem.

 

Generally, I find it strange. What NPCs comment PC without increasing the level of fame. Any ordinary person would tell about what he had seen a woman with slave devices. (Visible (Armibender, gag, collar and something else)). Because they have a boring life, and gossip is fun. therefore it creates rumors. This FoS.

 

In my view.

[Reesewow]

 

 

I really liked your mod. I would like to make some suggestions.

 

 

System of Fame of Slut (FoS) is good, but as far as I know, she adds fame only during the active stage. I would suggest. To every time NPC saw PC devices, this would strengthen the fame. I hope it can be implemented.

 

Also I would like to add to the list item FoS "naked." Ie to fame was added when the NPC saw bare PC. I think it will work well with the mod Get Stripped.

 

This is something like a small system of rumors about player.

 

 

In any case, thank you for your wonderful modification.

Sorry for the bad english.

 

I would kindly object the first part under the spoiler. Devices can be locked to character for slutty behavior, but they can also be locked by character herself to protect her chastity. Wouldn't raising FoS for the latter one conflict with the intent?

 

Or, did I just misunderstood "devices" from character action to DD items?

 

I will clarify. Fame will be added only for visible devices. A chastity belt can be hidden under clothing, and this should not be a problem.

 

Generally, I find it strange. What NPCs comment PC without increasing the level of fame. Any ordinary person would tell about what he had seen a woman with slave devices. (Visible (Armibender, gag, collar and something else)). Because they have a boring life, and gossip is fun. therefore it creates rumors. This FoS.

 

In my view.

 

 

I think that would actually be a pretty cool little addition to have non-follower NPC comments about visible devices add to your slave fame category.  That would mean that if you didn't want to have the residents of an area to think you are a slave even after you get free, you would want to be careful to cover devices you put on yourself with cloths or get out of devices someone put on you as fast as possible (from a cursed loot chest event ect).

 

This is kinda already a thing in the current version, because if you have devices on that cause vibration events, you will get fame when your character is forced to animate.

 

Thanks for the update Versh, works great for me updating directly from the previous version.  The new mood page is very descriptive.

[chipstick]

Hi Versh,

 

Just wanted to let you know that .904 has fixed my MCM update issue. Thanks heaps for the fix and your continuing work.

 

I did notice a bug in the mood MCM menu. The slider for the % chance of a npc being an exhibitionist started out set to maximum, at 30. (The tooltip says the default is 0.3, or 30%, so I figured the slider was just displaying te 30% chance). When I tried moving this slider, it jumped to a 0-1 scale like the rest of the mood sliders. Any adjustment I made to the slider resulted in it defaulting to either a max value of 1 or a minimum value of 0. If I tried setting it to 0.1 for example, the next time I would open the mcm menu, it had reset to 0.

 

 

 

 

[chipstick]

I really liked your mod. I would like to make some suggestions.

 

 

System of Fame of Slut (FoS) is good, but as far as I know, she adds fame only during the active stage. I would suggest. To every time NPC saw PC devices, this would strengthen the fame. I hope it can be implemented.

 

Also I would like to add to the list item FoS "naked." Ie to fame was added when the NPC saw bare PC. I think it will work well with the mod Get Stripped.

 

This is something like a small system of rumors about player.

 

 

In any case, thank you for your wonderful modification.

Sorry for the bad english.

 

Hi Hay,

 

Just reading over your suggestion, its not a bad idea. However, I'm worried that it would cause technical problems.

 

I'm not a modder, I don't have any scripting skill, and I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong. I haven't opened up Versh's mod to inspect it, but from what I can tell, the FoS system only updates itself everytime a sexlab animation plays. This keeps the scripting load for fame updates low.

 

To have the mod update your fame everytime a NPC sees a player, a straightforward implementation would require a constant activation of the FoS system, rather than just a brief activation at the end of an animation. I reckon this would strain the scripting system to great degree.

[grifterrik]

I have a follower whose sluttiness is - 2, so no ST functions will work with her. It's there a command i can use to alter this value or reset it?

[Reesewow]

Hi Versh,

 

Just wanted to let you know that .904 has fixed my MCM update issue. Thanks heaps for the fix and your continuing work.

 

I did notice a bug in the mood MCM menu. The slider for the % chance of a npc being an exhibitionist started out set to maximum, at 30. (The tooltip says the default is 0.3, or 30%, so I figured the slider was just displaying te 30% chance). When I tried moving this slider, it jumped to a 0-1 scale like the rest of the mood sliders. Any adjustment I made to the slider resulted in it defaulting to either a max value of 1 or a minimum value of 0. If I tried setting it to 0.1 for example, the next time I would open the mcm menu, it had reset to 0.

 

I saw that issue as well for a different slider, where it was rounding the number on the bar (aka 0.1-0.4 = 0, 0.5 - 1.0 = 1).  It ended up fixing itself on its own after a few minutes of gameplay, and I didn't test if it was actually affecting the mod functionality.  I assumed it was just a visual glitch where MCM was displaying the number rounded to the nearest whole number until the MCM had finished updating properly.

 

 

 

I really liked your mod. I would like to make some suggestions.

 

 

System of Fame of Slut (FoS) is good, but as far as I know, she adds fame only during the active stage. I would suggest. To every time NPC saw PC devices, this would strengthen the fame. I hope it can be implemented.

 

Also I would like to add to the list item FoS "naked." Ie to fame was added when the NPC saw bare PC. I think it will work well with the mod Get Stripped.

 

This is something like a small system of rumors about player.

 

 

In any case, thank you for your wonderful modification.

Sorry for the bad english.

 

Hi Hay,

 

Just reading over your suggestion, its not a bad idea. However, I'm worried that it would cause technical problems.

 

I'm not a modder, I don't have any scripting skill, and I'm open to being corrected if I'm wrong. I haven't opened up Versh's mod to inspect it, but from what I can tell, the FoS system only updates itself everytime a sexlab animation plays. This keeps the scripting load for fame updates low.

 

To have the mod update your fame everytime a NPC sees a player, a straightforward implementation would require a constant activation of the FoS system, rather than just a brief activation at the end of an animation. I reckon this would strain the scripting system to great degree.

 

 

Yea, an NPC seeing a deviced PC and updating FOS instantly would probably be a papyrus hog (sounds similar to the old SL Aroused).  I was more thinking that it could be updated only when an exposed device has already triggered a devious comment (either an npc doing a devious hello topic walking close to you, or a devious comment activating when you talk to a non-follower NPC).  May still increase the script load, but should only be single events the same as the SL animations are and only when you are actively talking to or getting close to NPCs.

 

Obviously only a suggestion however, as I have no clue how FOS is currently scripted and if it would be feasible that the different modules send information between each other.  The mod itself is rock solid for how much variation it adds and has been impressively delicate to my skyrim install that I think is held together with bubblegum and string at this point.

[chipstick]

 

Yea, an NPC seeing a deviced PC and updating FOS instantly would probably be a papyrus hog (sounds similar to the old SL Aroused).  I was more thinking that it could be updated only when an exposed device has already triggered a devious comment (either an npc doing a devious hello topic walking close to you, or a devious comment activating when you talk to a non-follower NPC).  May still increase the script load, but should only be single events the same as the SL animations are and only when you are actively talking to or getting close to NPCs.

 

Obviously only a suggestion however, as I have no clue how FOS is currently scripted and if it would be feasible that the different modules send information between each other.  The mod itself is rock solid for how much variation it adds and has been impressively delicate to my skyrim install that I think is held together with bubblegum and string at this point.

 

 

Agreed, your idea for implementation sounds a lot more feasible and stable for skyrim's creaky old engine.

 

Noted on your experience of the MCM slider weirdness. I'll see if mine sorts itself after a bit.

 

[emerlad]

 

I'm not sure why, but since I've installed the new version and started a new game I've lost this mod from the MCM menu. The DD-More Quest and notification comes up, and my character is covering up so I know the shame effect is kicking in (precisely what I want to turn off) and it's nowhere to be found to actually do so.

I have the same problem with the menu after the upgrade to the new version.

 

I'm having the same issue, installed the newest version and started a new game and no MCM menu ever gets registered.

Quest notifications, etc. are showing up.

[AimoHauki]

Had my first test run with this mod yesterday (0.904). The mod seemed to work just fine although it refused to show up in the MCM. Will have to see if I can do further testing today.

 

Edit: Oh, and this was the first time I have ever tried this mod at least on this computer. Probably haven't tried on my laptop either.

[DbatRT]

 

Yea, an NPC seeing a deviced PC and updating FOS instantly would probably be a papyrus hog (sounds similar to the old SL Aroused). I was more thinking that it could be updated only when an exposed device has already triggered a devious comment (either an npc doing a devious hello topic walking close to you, or a devious comment activating when you talk to a non-follower NPC). May still increase the script load, but should only be single events the same as the SL animations are and only when you are actively talking to or getting close to NPCs.

 

Obviously only a suggestion however, as I have no clue how FOS is currently scripted and if it would be feasible that the different modules send information between each other. The mod itself is rock solid for how much variation it adds and has been impressively delicate to my skyrim install that I think is held together with bubblegum and string at this point.

 

Yes, the calculation was exactly that. No need to create new detection. You just need to tie a small function to the system commenting. And when the NPC will comment on your PC. there will be an increase in popularity. And it should not cause a high load.

 

Although not imagine how the system. But since Versh began full update functionality. I suggested this idea, with the future in mind.