Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[kurotatsu]

@Kimy - Can we please have description of how the "Complex surrender mechanics" should work?

I'm asking because now when i set it to 100%, after surrender captors just stand around, with PC's controls turned off and that's all...

[Naps-On-Dirt]

5 hours ago, Zaflis said:

While SLUTS works when player initiates it from carriage driver, it does NOT work when you get assigned to it as an option to repay crimes. It has been in that bugged state for a very long time and developer has seemed to abandon it. Many people have confirmed and tested the bug.

If you go back to version 1.17 it supposedly works.  I haven't been able to test that yet but thats what others have reported.

[TeaAndBiscuits]

17 hours ago, piotsze said:

Don't click it. Wait for two weeks. You have got a serious scripting lag which comes from wrong load order or heavy moded game save and the couse probably is - not using LOOT to sort your load order. <- this was always the source for a problems for me when using any time activated devices

If you use Deviously Cursed Loot - you probably found it in Helgen dungeon - thats the first time it appears, or maybe bought it from Dollmaker. 

 

BTW i'm curious what will happen when putting this on for a week and than fastly do a Chloe quest with premium items... is it going to be a bug or is it going to remove maiden's shield?

How should I fix my load order?

Currently, I am using Vortex to load my mods.

I don't mind losing my savegame. 

If you have Maiden's Shield Equipped and you start Chloe's quest you will remain locked in Maiden's Shield (been there).

 

 

[jigwigigx]

6 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

I had it work once.

I had it fail a lot of times though.

I think you might have to be at the exact right quest stage of SLUTS for it to work, and once you've had it work, you're not at that stage any more and it won't work again.

 

And with PoP, I have had it fail a lot of times, and you usually don't find out it's not gonna work until you're many hours into a game, and then you know you're not going to have any PoP in that game after all. It's like you need to pick PoP as a LAL start to check it's working.

There is a newer  version of this mod called SLUTS Redux by another  author which works very well.

[jigwigigx]

Updated to version 7.5  (although NMM says it's still 7.3) but walk of shame dress is still invisible.  The item id is unisex and code is 110f743e. I'm using cbbe. ?

[Morferous]

16 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

 

The only mod that ever made anything interesting out of sitting doing nothing in a cage was Devious Regulations.

 

For those who might have not followed: it still is.

 

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/6107-devious-regulation-fix/

[Zaflis]

1 hour ago, TeaAndBiscuits said:

How should I fix my load order?

Currently, I am using Vortex to load my mods.

I don't mind losing my savegame.

Install LOOT, then run it through Vortex. There is a button on top to sort mods, hit apply and close. Then start a new game.

36 minutes ago, jigwigigx said:

There is a newer  version of this mod called SLUTS Redux by another  author which works very well.

That is the version we were talking about; redux 1.18 by @MrEsturk

[jigwigigx]

2 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Install LOOT, then run it through Vortex. There is a button on top to sort mods, hit apply and close. Then start a new game.

That is the version we were talking about; redux 1.18 by @MrEsturk

Ah ok, well nobody mentioned the word redux. I played both the original and the redux, I had loads of problems with the former but the redux version played absolutely fine.

[Nekolilac]

Hi, I'm encountering a freeze for the live another life add on. I just updated dcl to 7.5 and activated the lal option, but it freezes near the beginning of it everytime. It's right after the slaver tells you to rest while you are in the cage. Now I haven't used the option before 7.5 so I don't know if it exclusive to the new update or not.

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, jigwigigx said:

Ah ok, well nobody mentioned the word redux. I played both the original and the redux, I had loads of problems with the former but the redux version played absolutely fine.

The Redux version has the bounty payment bug mentioned above.

Basically, the guards send you to the SLUTS guy, but he doesn't actually enlist you as a pony, or add any debt.

 

Except sometimes - he does. I think it worked for me in the case where I'd started the SLUTS quest, but not advanced it past the first inquiry stage.

In other cases - not started, got the flyer but never talked to a SLUTS NPC, or started and having been a pony in the past, it didn't work right, and simply cancelled my bounty "for free".

[kaldwin]

Hey @Kimy, I had an idea about walk of shame.  A bunch of people (myself included) have suggested that it be used for all crime, and not just public indecency.  The problem with that is settling your bounty.  Realistically, walk of shame isn't enough punishment for someone with, say, a 10,000 gold bounty.  they probably killed a few people to get it that high.  I was thinking add a whore collar to the mix.

 

When you are arrested, The fallowing happens. 

 

1)  all you're things are taken (like normal jail)

2)  you're locked in a few inescapable devices.

3)  your bounty disappears and you get a whore collar that requires an amount of gold equal to your bounty to get out of (maybe more?  2x? 3x?). 

 

Taking all your items forces the the player to whore themselves out to settle their bounty.  Once the player earns enough gold to get out of the collar, it acts just like walk of shame.  They find the NPC with their restraint key, then they get their stuff back either from that NPC or they take a trip down to the jail.

    

You could also change the solicitation parameters when the quest is active.  doing things like, lowering customer pay morality, increasing chance of customer wanting bondage, and also the chance that they won't unlock you when they're done with you (you're being punished after all.  Also, you'ed have to make critical failure rate 0, since pretty much all public indecency consequences prevent you from having sex

[jigwigigx]

19 hours ago, jigwigigx said:

Updated to version 7.5  (although NMM says it's still 7.3) but walk of shame dress is still invisible.  The item id is unisex and code is 110f743e. I'm using cbbe. ?

Still no answer to this problem?  Surely I can't be the only one. Sorry, no tumbleweed emoticon...

[Laura]

9 minutes ago, jigwigigx said:

Still no answer to this problem?  Surely I can't be the only one. Sorry, no tumbleweed emoticon...

It shows up for me.

It uses the same meshes and textures as the regular Red Leather Straitjacket Dress. So something probably went wrong when you installed DD.

Does the regular Red Leather Straitjacket Dress work for you?

[Lupine00]

30 minutes ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

It shows up for me.

It uses the same meshes and textures as the regular Red Leather Straitjacket Dress. So something probably went wrong when you installed DD.

Does the regular Red Leather Straitjacket Dress work for you?

The obvious mistake is that somehow the Bodyslide file got lost or overwritten.

If you can find the file, where it should be, and it looks good in NifSkope, it's possible the AA is getting mangled.

 

Some things can patch AAs in broken ways, for example, stripping the slots off them so they won't render.

You can always check by loading your whole LO in Tes5Edit and then inspecting the AAs for the dress to make sure they reference the model in the location you expect, and have the slots they should.

[Sospice]

I didn't see mention of this in the thread so I'll ask here;

The Whore's collar" doesn't come off when you use the "free me" button in MCM. I tried grabbing a number of the keys using additememnu and none of them seem to open it. It only gives a message of "you don't have the right key" or "you need multiple keys" (I have 3 of each key I suspected could open it).

What are the "conditions to be met" supposed to be for the removal of the whore's collar?

[Lupine00]

46 minutes ago, Sospice said:

What are the "conditions to be met" supposed to be for the removal of the whore's collar?

Total cash earned through solicitation has to exceed a threshold. Sometimes this threshold can be as low as zero.

Other times it might be as  high as twenty times the average solicitation take.

 

Basically, the more money you have when you get the collar, the more you have to earn to remove it.

 

 

I actually posted the code it uses as part of a discussion about it back on page 751:

 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v75-2019-02-10/?do=findComment&amp;comment=2521392

 

 

[magicrealm]

Leon Quest i cant find boots, gloves and piercing in the parties house.

[thedarkone1234]

Speaking of the Leon quest, I cant do it at all. I thing I lost the mission a few hundred hours ago for a ''free me'' and cant pick it up again.

 

I know there is a posibility to use console to get a mission. Can you tell me what exactly do I need to do to get it that way or by any other means?

[Kimy]

As a general remark: Free Me is a last resort fix that I believe gets used a bit too loosely by some. The option is in the DEBUG section for a reason. It's not meant to be used indiscriminately to escape some restraints people might not like. The feature will terminate quests cleanly so, but not all DCL quests are meant to be repeatable, and it's totally possible that these quests cannot be restarted, after getting terminated by Free Me.

[Laura]

Just now, Kimy said:

As a general remark: Free Me is a last resort fix that I believe gets used a bit too loosely by some. The option is in the DEBUG section for a reason. It's not meant to be used indiscriminately to escape some restraints people might not like. The feature will terminate quests cleanly so, but not all DCL quests are meant to be repeatable, and it's totally possible that these quests cannot be restarted, after getting terminated by Free Me.

I've also had people try to use your Free Me function to escape quest items from my mod. I understand that it's a tempting thing to use, but people don't seem to realise that it's the nuclear option.

[jigwigigx]

10 hours ago, Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

It shows up for me.

It uses the same meshes and textures as the regular Red Leather Straitjacket Dress. So something probably went wrong when you installed DD.

Does the regular Red Leather Straitjacket Dress work for you?

Yes it does show up, but you since you mention something went wrong when I installed, I did use the upgrade method in NMM rather than a clean install so I will try a full install first because I think you may be right. Thanks for answering.

[jigwigigx]

5 hours ago, Kimy said:

As a general remark: Free Me is a last resort fix that I believe gets used a bit too loosely by some. The option is in the DEBUG section for a reason. It's not meant to be used indiscriminately to escape some restraints people might not like. The feature will terminate quests cleanly so, but not all DCL quests are meant to be repeatable, and it's totally possible that these quests cannot be restarted, after getting terminated by Free Me.

Guilty as charged m'lud. I admit to using this feature too much as I always assumed it was a get out of jail free thing. I shall avoid using it in this manner in future as I have experienced not getting certain quests and features but wasn't aware it would be because of this.

[thedarkone1234]

6 hours ago, thedarkone1234 said:

Speaking of the Leon quest, I cant do it at all. I thing I lost the mission a few hundred hours ago for a ''free me'' and cant pick it up again.

 

I know there is a posibility to use console to get a mission. Can you tell me what exactly do I need to do to get it that way or by any other means?

Solved my own problem. Steps for those who wish to follow:

 

Console: Help ''leon''

This will give you a very long list of leon related stuff. You are looking for the one which starts with QUST. Remember its ID. This is going to be the ID I refer to from now on

 

Console: resetquest ID

Console: setstage ID 0

Console: setstage ID 10

 

Once you have done these, you still see no change. But: talk to Claudius. You will have the line from leon's quest. Once you finish the dialogue, you will get the quest in your log and can continue normally.

 

EDIT: Might have celebrated to early there. IDK if it is related to me ''cheating'' or not but at the point where Claudious is supposed to teleport us to the party he just doesnt. Instead I can talk to him on the same spot and he will just fuck me there, and a guard will see me.

 

Is this a known issue or is it because I cheated?

[Sospice]

9 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

Total cash earned through solicitation has to exceed a threshold. Sometimes this threshold can be as low as zero.

Other times it might be as  high as twenty times the average solicitation take.

 

Basically, the more money you have when you get the collar, the more you have to earn to remove it.

 

 

I actually posted the code it uses as part of a discussion about it back on page 751:

 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/33986-deviously-cursed-loot-v75-2019-02-10/?do=findComment&amp;comment=2521392

 

 

Thanks, that tells me what I need to know.

By the way, I noticed that even when you don't select for "inns only" the solicitation dialogue doesn't come up unless you are in an inn.

[jigwigigx]

1 hour ago, jigwigigx said:

Yes it does show up, but you since you mention something went wrong when I installed, I did use the upgrade method in NMM rather than a clean install so I will try a full install first because I think you may be right. Thanks for answering.

Reinstalling didn't work either. However, during the NMM install process I did get a lot of "blablabla has already been installed by expansion do you want to activate this mod's file instead yes/no" popups which might have something to do with the problem.