Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Slagblah]

6 hours ago, Rogwar002 said:

Bugreport:

Wearing a questsuit will make it impossible to wear the Yoke of shame. Why? Because the bodytemplate of the Yoke of shame from version 6.4 is using a breast yoke instead of the wristyoke. The breastyoke will try to equip on slot 32 and 46. The bodyslot 32 is already occupied with the suit.

Error. no yoke of shame. You cannot unequip it using the console, because it is not equiped. You cannot remove it with the console, because it is not equiped correctly. It will always reappear.

You should use the old wrist yoke, otherwise Rubber Doll or Exhibitionistsuit will corrupt your bodytemplate and as result the yoke of shame quest.

Still the old meshes are in the mod, but not used. Even the armor is there (dcur_yokeAA). Please remember to change the script of the yoke as well, otherwise you´ll have your hands in front of your body like using the breastyoke

... Or the Yoke of Shame start code could check for a non-removable suit before proceeding. If it can't equip, then it just bails.

[Lupine00]

5 hours ago, Slagblah said:

... Or the Yoke of Shame start code could check for a non-removable suit before proceeding. If it can't equip, then it just bails.

Or not just a suit, but anything in that slot.

[Mr Technician]

11 hours ago, Sathella said:

Holy wall of text Batman!

Haha! Thx man! Today i decided to gave Sasha other approach. Well it's exact opposite what she does as a Dom to the Player Character. Put the shocking collar on her, put evrything on her, talk again to her - new option appeared - so i choose to plug & play with Sasha (stick damn vibrators in her). Well at least my Remote is working on her now, thats cool! Than we go to Bannered Mare - i pressed the button! Wait for it... wait... and she made everybody so freakin horny. After that the Solicitation option is working perfectly with evrybody now! Well she will be very good addition to SLEN mod, where you can make a party at your home and invite your friends from Skyrim (basically people who you fu**** already). She will give them 100 arousal in no time! And the party's gonna be a total success, yeah... And i'm installing Prison Overhoul Patched - becouse i'm bored and wanna be chased by bounty hunters. We shall see how it will go with already restrained Sasha as my follower. Well i will give it at least a try and maybe - i say maybe not gonna do the freakin wall batman post again - to keep it "short and sweet"! Well it's fuuny to fly with yoke on, u should try this! I'm gonna Bat-fly this mod out - just becouse it's giving me so much pleasure, especially the quests!?️‍♀️

[Lupine00]

Decided to play without DCL for a change. Getting tied up all the time had got a bit old, and I wanted to test how DF played without DCL in the mix.

 

What I found was that without DCL, Skyrim is so boring!

 

There is no adequate replacement for DCL.

There are rape and prostitution mods, but none that are properly integrated with devices, and there's DAymoyl + Defeat, but they're a mess of really nasty bugs.

 

I think I'll be putting DCL back real soon.

[Mr Technician]

2 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

What I found was that without DCL, Skyrim is so boring!

So true... I've done Cursed Collar quest - holy crapp! This quest is very good. I'm not gonna spoil it! Play it. ?

And OMG quest:   > Bound Queen <   is total avesomeness !! Hahaha - Jullius you treacherous, perverted, demanding Man! SPOILER ALERT for this quest! ?️‍♀️

 

Spoiler

SPOILER ALERT FOR "BOUND QUEEN" QUEST:   This quest is very long but REWARD is worth it! You will need to go to many dungeons, and not specific ones - increase your chance of finding Queen set items in MCM menu. Complete set prevents you from wearing any armor, gloves, boots - buy Dibella Charm from Dollmaker (house is in Dawnstar) - it's not cheap but should help you really and give buffs at this stage. Than you will be sent to find a key but you will really need to find key fragments (no easy finding one key). Jullius will help you find/decipher which location you should visit, but in an exchange to please him. However after he assembles final key from key fragments - he will dicide that will keep Bound Queen key for himself - makind you his Bound Slave - and not giving it to you. Don't try to please him with more sex acts - he won't give Bound Queen Key to you. Even if you beg for it. He has hidden it somewhere. (BJ's are not avoidable in this quest - maybe thruu console - but common...)

After completing bound key fragment part, steal his key from him. You know that it opens something - but have no idea what exactly - and hard to deduct what is for, hmm... Go to Lower Midden/Dark Midden and find a bookshelf, open it with Jullius key (and keep the key - don't loose it!). Opening Jullius Bookshelf - you will find Bound Queen Key - this is only one key - but will not dissapear from your inventory when used to unlock Bound Queen Restraint's. You can remove all the items from you now to avoid being a wife to Jullius! (Also remove Dibella Charm - it has same effect of preventing using any armor - if you are wearing it!)

Read his Journal about Saarthal box he prepared some staff for you being his wife (presents). You can read it to find actually he was very impressed for your BJ's on him and how beutifull you are to him, etc.! ?

AT THE END OF QUEST: Very Good and Powerfull reward, Very Pretty also - for female mage in a box before Saarthal escavation - look it upstairs near beds for workers/miners - open it with Jullius key, grab the item but outside Saarthal, not inside! Have a fun!

 

HINT: Keep this Bound Queen restrain items maybe in some box at homes? Especially the Bound Queen Key - "Master" from mod "Captured Dreams Shop" can irreversibly take it from you! And if u keep those restraints in your equip while adventuring - there is a chance you will put this on yourself, when aroused enough! Be Warned!

 

HINT 2: If you decide to steal some books from Jullius Bookshelf - he will send Bounty Hunters for you (this is normal Vanilla behaviour). Now, depending on other mods configuration you have - it could happen that in slavery just even after one hit from them. You could play with it or kill them on-sight - avoid being hit! Best is to attack with bow and let followers do the rest. In my case three bounty hunters appeared in Academy Main Entrance. All of them wearing Steel Armors with two-handed steel swords. Yours could be different

 

[Lupine00]

I lasted almost a whole day without DCL in my LO. Now it's back.

 

Playing the LAL captured princess start again to see if it got any more robust in 6.4 ... seems it hasn't.

 

The slavers hideout is still somewhat riddled with bad portals/visibility data, mis-positioned objects that are buried in shelves and so on. Could do with a little tidy-up in the CK.

 

Then, first conversation I attempt, with Aduri Sarethi, she starts LBA. I guessed that might not end well - or at least spoil the quest - so I hit load and started over...

 

On a previous playthrough of this (on 6.1?) I was able to talk an NPC at the farm into removing the armbinder for me, which made the quest dialogs a little broken.

 

 

This little intro quest is much loved, and is the first thing that many new DD players see of DCL, so it seems a pity it hasn't had the little tweaks it needs to run smooth. Other than those little details, it always works for me.

 

 

Also, it would be great to see the girls from the safehouse again in a later quest. A chance to rescue them one day would be a nice Easter egg for DCL enthusiasts.

 

Spoiler

 

It might be my memory, but the bag by the noble that used to hold a load of restraints now has a set of kinky heavy armor and a lucky charm in it. Or is it just items from a levelled list? The original restraints made more sense story wise. The set of gear is nice, but only suits a melee, and of course there are other (somewhat more OP) items to be had inside Helgen keep.

 

This bag in a chance to give an interesting and special reward. How about a collar with a timed lock that adds some nice buffs but, of course, also makes you "visibly bound" all the time you're wearing it?

 

 

Also, the "Fighters Gloves" in the bag provide a magical effect labelled as originating from Mages Rubber Gloves. Either they've got the wrong effect on, or it's got the wrong description text.

[Mr Technician]

1 hour ago, Lupine00 said:

I lasted almost a whole day without DCL in my LO. Now it's back.

Heh! Funny as it may be but today i decided to uninstall DCUR. 

[nixnamed]

Some captured princess quest oddities:

 

Previously-mentioned item placement issues in the slaver cave hideout. Also Little Luke, since I encounter him in a standing pose (not T-pose) in midair every time.

 

The slave girls from the Riften safehouse apparently hang around down there forever and are valid targets for Delvin's pickpocket quests in the Thieves' Guild (and possibly other radiant quests). The entry despawns after the captured princess quest, however, rendering any such quest impossible to complete.

 

Laura is never in her cell in the safehouse, but always seems to be trying to enter it.

 

Sometimes the pilloried slavegirl doesn't appear in the safehouse. It's been a while since she actually showed up for me, so I don't even remember her name.

Trying to talk to Claudia in the safehouse resulted in my receiving the Cursed Collar and its related quest during this quest.

 

In the past, trying to talk to the gagged slavegirls in the safehouse (or any NPC outside) could result in DCL gagtalk dialogue that resulted in their removing the quest's gag. I don't know if this was resolved.

 

Nitpick: There are two identical "slaver gang ledger" books in the chest in the room where you are initially caged, for some reason.

 

Nitpick: The entry to the Riften safehouse is a trapdoor, but the exit from the safehouse is a normal door.

 

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I'm also experiencing an issue where the (breast) Yoke of Shame gives its unlock message, but fails to unlock and might not ever unlock. The only other things being worn are white ebonite arm and leg cuffs, high security collar/chastity belt/chastity bra, and cursed anal and vaginal plugs. All but the white ebonite things are leftovers from the Cursed Collar quest. The Yoke of Shame was added by a guard as a penalty for indecency.

 

I haven't really had the time to investigate whether the similar/same time-unlock mechanism is failing for other timed devices e.g. Maiden's Shield or Chastity Belt of Shame.

[Slagblah]

31 minutes ago, nixnamed said:

I haven't really had the time to investigate whether the similar/same time-unlock mechanism is failing for other timed devices e.g. Maiden's Shield or Chastity Belt of Shame.

I know that there are problems with both of those that will be resolved in the next release (already fixed at the development level, just not released yet).

[Lupine00]

3 hours ago, nixnamed said:

Laura is never in her cell in the safehouse, but always seems to be trying to enter it.

Agreed. She used to be in it, in some older version, as I've seen her there.

 

3 hours ago, nixnamed said:

Trying to talk to Claudia in the safehouse resulted in my receiving the Cursed Collar and its related quest during this quest.

She was unresponsive for me.

3 hours ago, nixnamed said:

Nitpick: The entry to the Riften safehouse is a trapdoor, but the exit from the safehouse is a normal door.

Another very minor thing, if you have various other Immersive/Interesting/Inconsequential mods, there may be quite a few people busy working in the Hall of the Dead, making it a poor location for a secret door.

 

Also, It's probably silly for an NPC in DD items to use the Smoking Hot dialogue on you. Happens. Sometimes. Most likely to  happen if you use a mod that binds NPCs.

 

Also, "Wenches" can trigger Smoking Hot while you are rescuing them. They aren't bound in any way that DCL would naturally spot, so it's not surprising, but it's probably the case that there is some kind of keyword on the actors that might make it possible to detect and prevent this if compatability was an aim. In any case, if it only triggered in towns, it would probably make sense, and would stop such issues across the board.

[Laura]

3 hours ago, nixnamed said:

Laura is never in her cell in the safehouse, but always seems to be trying to enter it.

Sorry for the stupid question.

Which mod is Laura from?

[TapingFan]

They are talking about Content Consumer's Alternate Starts - Sexual Content - LoversLab and should probably be posting most of the problems there.

[Laura]

18 minutes ago, TapingFan said:

They are talking about Content Consumer's Alternate Starts - Sexual Content - LoversLab and should probably be posting most of the problems there.

Thanks for the answer. I thought there was a DCL quest I didn't know about.

[LazyBoot]

30 minutes ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

49 minutes ago, TapingFan said:

They are talking about Content Consumer's Alternate Starts - Sexual Content - LoversLab and should probably be posting most of the problems there.

Thanks for the answer. I thought there was a DCL quest I didn't know about.

Actually, I think they are talking about the LAL-Scenario included with cursed loot. So it would belong here.

[Lupine00]

9 hours ago, TapingFan said:

They are talking about Content Consumer's Alternate Starts - Sexual Content - LoversLab and should probably be posting most of the problems there.

No. No they aren't. We're talking about the DCL captured princess start, which is part of DCL - as LazyBoot correctly identifies.

 

So, Laura is from DCL. You've never met her? Well, must be time for you to go back and play that start

 

[Laura]

5 hours ago, Lupine00 said:

No. No they aren't. We're talking about the DCL captured princess start, which is part of DCL - as LazyBoot correctly identifies.

 

So, Laura is from DCL. You've never met her? Well, must be time for you to go back and play that start

 

I just tried to get LAL to work for 2 hours. ?

It has never correctly worked for me. But I'll keep going because I want to see what Laura does.

[Nazzzgul666]

20 minutes ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I just tried to get LAL to work for 2 hours. ?

It has never correctly worked for me. But I'll keep going because I want to see what Laura does.

I never had any problems with LAL, it doesn't seem to be too complicated? It's important that it's almost last in your load order, only the CCAS/DCUL start scenario .esp should be after it. And ofc avoid other start mods like unbound. Not sure if that's the right thread but i'm quite sure i could guide you to get it started, a load order would be helpful for a start.

*edit: i have little to no experience with NMM, though. Make sure you don't have any remains from other possible start mods in your data folder if you don't use MO.

[nixnamed]

20 hours ago, Slagblah said:

I know that there are problems with both of those that will be resolved in the next release (already fixed at the development level, just not released yet).

That's great to know, thank you. I guess I'll just turn off some of the indecency punishments until then.

[Mr Technician]

2 hours ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I just tried to get LAL to work for 2 hours. ?

It has never correctly worked for me. But I'll keep going because I want to see what Laura does.

This is the exact reason why i'm still using Dimes Quick Start v3 - NoHelmet. LAL generates CTD's on me almost all the time with highest priority load order (yes - last in list, at bottom). I'm not gonna turn off/on 170+ plugin/masters mod setup in Mod Organizer - just to see which one is not compatible. I have done it already too many times for other mods... Anyway with Dimes Quickstart i could have it at the beggining of my load order... I have try that - and still works fine for me with no CTD's. However i play in window mode with no windows frame around skyrim - so my [ Tab ] don't work on massageboxes. It might be the reason with LAL. It is not recommended to play also that way by ENBoost, but i was learning how to use MO, was testing many mods configuration - encountered so many CTD's. And Skyrim hangs a lot when not configured properly for that.

Now it is funny becouse Windows Operating Systems don't "kill" the skyrim process instantly. This is old game so i bellieve have got no functionality - to unfreeze itself and quit. Also modern Windowses are so polite to friendly asking any process to quit (Gah! Windows!), and without actually quitting it. Also Skyrim blocks [ Alt ] + [ Tab ] functionallity of Windows - so if u play fullscreen - you end up in freezed Skyrim. And it don't want to quit process itself... So i left it that way to play windowed mode. Even if i have no freezes - better to play that way becouse you never know when it will happen...

[Laura]

I found out that there is a script replacing a vanilla script which probably interferes with LAL.

The problem is that it is from a mod I installed early 2013 and I can't trace all the way back. So I can't see which mod it is.

Starting from scratch just to see what a character with my name does is a bit too much. Also becasue I don't want to start from vanilla again.

 

But I don't know of a way to check which mod interacts with a certain script/quest.

That could help to find the troublesome mod. If you do, please let me know.

[Mr Technician]

2 hours ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

But I don't know of a way to check which mod interacts with a certain script/quest.

That could help to find the troublesome mod. If you do, please let me know.

Yeah... It's not easy. Only one way to confirm that i think of would be to search deep into "Papyrous.X.log". Now i think of a one way to do that. Actually might be the only one. What need to be done...

 

Add to "Skyrim.ini" file located in  "C:\Users\<user>\Documents\My Games\Skyrim" section:

[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1

 

Please also add it same way - but throught yours Mod Organizer version! Skyrim Mod Organizer keeps "cloned" versions of files: Skyrim.ini / SkyrimPrefs.ini. They are accessible by SMO menu:

 

 

Clear/delete/move your existing "Papyrous.log" files if u have any (should have four of them) from "C:\Users\<user>\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script". This Log files gonna be generated if nonexistent, after next launching Skyrim. After cleaning - start a New Game with by your Mod Organizer (or do it by executing "skse_loader.exe" from game default folder where "TESV.exe" is located).

Start it with LAL installed and placed last - at the bottom of your load order (don't use LOOT - it's crapp for advanced users, messes many things up). And don't mind if it crashes - that's the point to create new log's after crash.

In a next step - you don't start skyrim again! First you need to view your log! Crash should be registered by game in "Papyrous.0.log". There are millions of things that could be registered there... You will have two options now. Either you post a log here - giving up your privacy - and we could begin to search in the internet how to help you. Or you do it by yourself (in my opinion - preffered one solution - to do it by yourself).

Remember that in a trace log - everything is saved - also the info about mods you have and were started by the game...

 

Also keep in mind that this is papyrous solution. If you have Mod Organizer you can search it other way:

 

And try to find conflicting files:

 

Wish you luck! ?

 

P.S.: Damnit! I have done another Batman-wall post again!

[Nazzzgul666]

1 hour ago, Comrade Laura 'Lokomootje' said:

I found out that there is a script replacing a vanilla script which probably interferes with LAL.

The problem is that it is from a mod I installed early 2013 and I can't trace all the way back. So I can't see which mod it is.

Starting from scratch just to see what a character with my name does is a bit too much. Also becasue I don't want to start from vanilla again.

 

But I don't know of a way to check which mod interacts with a certain script/quest.

That could help to find the troublesome mod. If you do, please let me know.

If you're using MO you can 

- check which file exactly is overwritten by another mod, if it's the case

- just start a new profile, play the start scenario (+ possibly other mods you want to try which don't fit into your current setup) and then go back to your old profile.

I don't know any better way to try things you'd like to see but not really add to your main game.

[Lupine00]

Laura herself is of only minor interest, but the start is well worth playing as a whole.

 

I have almost no problems with LAL, but then I only have 120 or so mods in my LO (and many of them are just followers and armors), and I rebuild my entire LO pretty much every month, if not more often, because I like to strip back stuff I'm not really getting value from whenever possible.

 

Sometimes I use Skyrim Unbound instead of LAL.

 

My only complaint with LAL, is that in some cases a bunch of vanilla quests won't start or books won't work. I think this seems more related to certain LAL scenarios than the LO. I've started with LAL and had everything work perfectly.

 

I think only once did I run into an incompatibility with LAL. I forget the mod, something to do with carriages possibly. LAL stayed, the other mod got dumped. TBH, LAL is fine with Balanced Magic too. Dimes' handling of Helgen seems extremely shaky compared to LAL or Unbound, and Unbound has other nice features so you don't need You are not the Dragonborn or In Your Shadow, which I think are quite fitting mods for a DCL influenced game, especially Slaverun, or something with SL Survival and DF (I also like Don't call me Dragonborn). LAL will even work with Helgen Reborn, not sure about Dimes.

 

Knowing file overwrites doesn't help find the source of a script. You could try grepping sources, but you might not have the source installed.

Binary search by LO elimination on a 127 mod LO should find your problem mod in at most seven tries anyway. Anything over that you're using merges, so you'll be able to track it to the merge.

[Mr Technician]

15 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

Knowing file overwrites doesn't help find the source of a script. You could try grepping sources, but you might not have the source installed.

Binary search on a 127 mod LO should find your problem mod in at most seven tries anyway. Anything over that you're using merges, so you'll be able to track it to the merge.

Yes thats right. I would only advice that for starters the option is to view the readme files of this mods and search for Compatibility list. "Alternate Start - Live Another Life" has got the Readme file inside the installer - known to have some uncompatibility with SoS and vanilla type start also many others.

 

"Content Consumer's Alternate Starts v14d" has got a forum here on loverslab - which should be searched for Compatibility list. From forum:

• If you're using Mod Organizer or another mod manager, that might be the cause of some issues. I recommend manually installing just to be on the safe side.

[AnnaShapard]

I have a problem with shopping quest, I have a running quest that I can not finish, I'm supposed to "shop" at the blacksmith and at a temple shop but no matter how many times I do it, there is no progress in the quest, I can cancel it also not and therefore I can not get a new shopping quest. in the console the quest under "ShowQuestTargets" was not listed

 

 

please help!:(