Deviously Cursed Loot LE 9.0 (2021-03-09)

[Slorm]

Hi Kimy,

 

Just a question about DCUR's integration with EC+ and Estrus for Skyrim. Long story short, my understanding is that Estrus for Skyrim (EFS) uses actor events and can cause serious issues for one's savegame. As such, I am dead keen on avoiding any activation of EFS' events and scripts. But I would like DCUR to use EC+ for its traps.

 

 

This is slightly incorrect Chipstick, Actor Events was used to enable the early versions of Estrus Chaurus to function but is no longer needed for EC+.

 

Regarding the Estrus for Skyrim mod itself, it is heavily bugged and will in time cause a lot of problems, so best avoided as you've correctly surmised already. The version I use has the esp and the scripts folder removed and EC+ runs fine when invoked from DCL.

 

[chipstick]

Hi Slorm,

 

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Also, thanks for that notice, I'm going to take out the EFS scripts then, if EC+ don't need those either.

[ForestElf]

I don't know if it was mentioned before, i noticed the following:

 

1) I have all steal options disabled, yet while with heavy yoke and asking someone to use a key to unlock, instead he stole all the heavy yoke keys.

 

2) I got the "courier" quest to trigger. From Solstheim i was supposed to go to Malkrath. I don't know if it's even possible without fast travel... So i ask someone else for help and... bondage adventure triggers! But it starts at the same stop, next to the quest giver. So i talk and say "i am back". Quest giver unlocks the heavy yoke, but instead leaves on a corset and an armbinder... I ask again for help and now bondage adventure triggers properly and i was sent to wilderness near Malkrarth actually. But now i have 2 active quests. One for the courier and one for the bondage adventure. If i go to Malkrath, the yoke that was supposed to be removed there, was already removed! Will he remove the armbinder and corset? I don't know...

 

 

[Code Serpent]

Quick suggestion: A system where the player's skills (specifically illusion magic) are tested and the player is given a chance to escape from the magic of the items, so they aren't equipped but added to the player's inventory.

[unmog]

 

Hey Kimmy [and anyone else who might know] that kind of sounds similar to my problem, sorta. Let me explain. Since I reinstalled everything Ive had a problem CTDing when loading too. But only after Ive already loaded my game and played a bit, entered a new area to load up, etc, saved, and tried to load again. So after the CTD I restart Skyrim and try to load again and its fine.

 

 

So the CTD is only when I load up when Im already playing the game, specifically. This didnt happen before, and it is really a mild problem since the only problem comes when I want to load up again after Ive been playing some and I have to wait to load the game up again which isnt "that" long. Anyone have any ideas what could be causing it or what could fix it? If someone asks me to I can post a log, its easy to replicate. Im unsure if its something specifically with DCL or some other combination of mods etc, but when Im in game its very stable and never crashes... unless I decide to load a game. Quickload or normal doesnt matter, still a CTD.

 

 

I was having a similar problem after a recent re-install to switch over to MO.  Once in-game, any attempt to reload another save would always CTD.  I did finally fix the problem with a papyrusutil update to 3.0B4.  There are a couple of threads around here somewhere with the same problem and resolution.  You might give it a look.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23713-papyrusutil/?p=1117093

 

Thanks I'll give it a try right now.

[BlackHoleEyes]

Okay, so some news on my old situation.

 

I actually got sleep attacks and combat submit to work. I went on a character that i made ages ago and hadn't touched in a LONG while. And it worked. It seems like it might be scripts leftover from old mods or previous versions of current mods that caused the issue. She had barely been used, so on her, they worked. Not sure exactly why though. i have newer characters that hae been through less. Might be a relatively recent update/removal.

[Mez558]

OK, managed to clean out RCOTS and still have a working game (thanks to TESVEdit)

 

So what child npc replacers are allowed by DLC?

 

I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw vanilla Braith for the first time in 2yrs   

[dogos]

hi...
i just wanted to mention something that i encountered while wearing the rubberdoll outfit...

i asked for help with the removal of my restraints because of a chastity belt and it striped the "doll suit" along with the belt but not any of the other doll items (collar gloves shoes)... suit was still in my inventory and i could equip it again so no harm done...

but i'm not sure if it is intended that any of the "rubber doll" items can be removed by this dialogue so i just wanted to tell you

[stobor]

I've noticed a couple of times that once a solicitation puts restraints on the character, even if they're removed afterwards, all subsequent solicitations have the 'let me unlock you' line.  Whether bound or not.

[Kimy]

 

Just one request, if you could consider it.

 

My character got just stuck to her bedroom in Sleeping Giant Inn, thanks for me ignoring her grown arousal. She got caght by a 5 men in the inn. They all circled her in a thight space and kept screaming "I submit", "No more, I yild, I yild", "Aaaarg!" and other things.

 

I know that you are aware of the problem and I do understand why you set them to "flee" from the area of act, but going trough each of them, while listening 4 of them screaming help next to my character is not too... immersive.

 

Could you set them to walk away, instead of "fleeing" the area?

that reminds me. can the pc's voice when surrendering be disabled? the constant i yield and no more feel very out of character.

 

 

I will eventually rewrite that, yes.

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing seems to happen after I search containers it says loading container (number) and initializing but I get no devices equipped on me. I searched about 5 barrels and nothing happened.

 

It's possible you're simply not aroused enough. By default the minimum arousal is 20, though you can set it all the way to 0.

 

 

Tried that and still nothing happens. Doesn't even say there is no cursed loot here. It just says loading container then nothing happens at all. The last version of this worked fine.

 

 

4.9 added cooldown (set to 1 hour). Did you trigger a trap at least once before? In that case you either have to wait until the 1 hour passes ingame or set the cooldown to 0.

 

 

 

Still not working I am just going to go back to 4.8 this so annoying...

 

 

 

 

Just to make sure - are you using 4.9a or 4.9? Because stuff not working at all was the very reason for the 4.9a update. 4.9 was completely borked.

 

Hey--I love the new content, the quests/complicated predicaments in cursed loot are seriously entertaining. However, I was wondering if there are plans to flesh out the "dollmaker" character any more? It seems like there isn't much backstory to her, and her motivations for putting cursed rubber collars out there in the world. I want to know! Either she's truely committed in her belief that strangers being turned into a rubber doll is a gift to them--or she should seek to benefit from the situation in some way... like the player has to distribute rubber collars to random containers around skyrim to trap and create more dolls as her replacements, or help the dollmaker expand upon her business by collecting materials for more suits, or trying on experiments in exchange for a promise of eventual release... Or just a discount on her wares if the player happens to be totally on board.

 

Just some ideas!

 

The Dollmaker will indeed see additions over time.

 

Hi Kimy,

 

Just a question about DCUR's integration with EC+ and Estrus for Skyrim. Long story short, my understanding is that Estrus for Skyrim (EFS) can cause serious issues for one's savegame. As such, I am dead keen on avoiding any activation of EFS' events and scripts. But I would like DCUR to use EC+ for its traps.

 

I've installed Estrus for Skyrim only because its resources are required for EC+. However I omitted the esp for EFS, to ensure it doesn't get activated. Even without the esp, DCUR still recognises and registers EFS, along with EC+.

 

So... a series of related questions.

Question 1: if I have EC+ installed and working, are there any conditions where DCUR may call upon events from EFS, instead of EC+?

 

Question 2: In the events tab, there are 2 weight sliders for Estrus events: Estrus Traps and Estrus Plant Traps. The DCUR tooltip for Estrus Traps says EFS will be used only if EC+ is missing. Is that also true for Estrus Plant Events? I feel silly asking this second question, since the lack of tooltip detail for Estrus Plant Events presumably means it just inherits the properties of Estrus Traps. Still, I wanted to be sure I wasn't misunderstanding something, because no other event type in DCUR is weighted twice in the events tab. I mean, gas traps for example, only has one weight slider, which is presumably then applied to all applicable triggers. Only estrus events have 2 weight sliders. I'd like to clarify this Estrus Traps/Estrus Plant Traps separation, so I know it isn't some situation like say Estrus Traps governing EC+ events while Estrus Plant Traps governs EFS events.

 

Question 3: According to the tooltips, Estrus Traps covers "special cursed loot events". What are "special" cursed loot events? Estrus Plant Traps seems more clear: it only governs harvesting.

 

Sorry about the wall of text question.

 

(Its a pity, I'd like to use all of EFS' different animations, some of which aren't covered by EC+. But I don't want to corrupt my save)

Edit: Edited for clarity

Edit 2: Slorm corrected my misconception that EFS used actor events. Amended my post accordingly.

 

In short, if EC+ is detected by Cursed Loot, it -always- will take precedence over EfS. EfS support will be removed in the next major version anyway as EC+ now runs without ActorEvents and there is no reason to prefer standalone EfS over it these days.

 

I don't know if it was mentioned before, i noticed the following:

 

1) I have all steal options disabled, yet while with heavy yoke and asking someone to use a key to unlock, instead he stole all the heavy yoke keys.

 

2) I got the "courier" quest to trigger. From Solstheim i was supposed to go to Malkrath. I don't know if it's even possible without fast travel... So i ask someone else for help and... bondage adventure triggers! But it starts at the same stop, next to the quest giver. So i talk and say "i am back". Quest giver unlocks the heavy yoke, but instead leaves on a corset and an armbinder... I ask again for help and now bondage adventure triggers properly and i was sent to wilderness near Malkrarth actually. But now i have 2 active quests. One for the courier and one for the bondage adventure. If i go to Malkrath, the yoke that was supposed to be removed there, was already removed! Will he remove the armbinder and corset? I don't know...

 

Will check that out, thanks!

 

Okay, so some news on my old situation.

 

I actually got sleep attacks and combat submit to work. I went on a character that i made ages ago and hadn't touched in a LONG while. And it worked. It seems like it might be scripts leftover from old mods or previous versions of current mods that caused the issue. She had barely been used, so on her, they worked. Not sure exactly why though. i have newer characters that hae been through less. Might be a relatively recent update/removal.

 

Depending how old that save was, a newer Cursed Loot will really break it. I think the newest version that can be safely upgraded to current 4.9a was 4.6 or 4.7, me thinks.

 

OK, managed to clean out RCOTS and still have a working game (thanks to TESVEdit)

 

So what child npc replacers are allowed by DLC?

 

I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw vanilla Braith for the first time in 2yrs 

 

Any that doesn't tamper with the children flags or makes them playable/followers should work. Personally I am using RS Children.

 

hi...

i just wanted to mention something that i encountered while wearing the rubberdoll outfit...

 

i asked for help with the removal of my restraints because of a chastity belt and it striped the "doll suit" along with the belt but not any of the other doll items (collar gloves shoes)... suit was still in my inventory and i could equip it again so no harm done...

 

but i'm not sure if it is intended that any of the "rubber doll" items can be removed by this dialogue so i just wanted to tell you

 

Was the help dialog Cursed Loot's or the broken SD+ one? The later will absolutely do stuff like what you described and break things in the process.

[dogos]

 

Was the help dialog Cursed Loot's or the broken SD+ one? The later will absolutely do stuff like what you described and break things in the process.

 

nope the cursed loot one... not using sd or any other of the conflicting ones the first page mentioned

[Kimy]

 

 

Was the help dialog Cursed Loot's or the broken SD+ one? The later will absolutely do stuff like what you described and break things in the process.

 

nope the cursed loot one... not using sd or any other of the conflicting ones the first page mentioned

 

 

Ok, will check it out, then!

[ForestElf]

Ok, i finished both the courier and the bondage adventure quests. But i was stuck with some restraints (armbinder included). I had to use the "free me now" button, which removed everything except for a corset, which i had to use a key to remove. 

[Kimy]

Ok, i finished both the courier and the bondage adventure quests. But i was stuck with some restraints (armbinder included). I had to use the "free me now" button, which removed everything except for a corset, which i had to use a key to remove. 

 

Strange that it didn't end the BA quest properly. They are not meant to run simultaneously, but I cannot see a reason why the item removal should fail in the end. Odd.

[Mez558]

 

Any that doesn't tamper with the children flags or makes them playable/followers should work. Personally I am using RS Children.

 

 

Yeah I went with that as well as I have a feeling skykids does similar things to rcots, can't say I like it much but better than vanilla.

I will pester Glouf (or bribe him) to make a standalone npc replacer that leaves their child flags intact

[deletedinfection]

well i got a follower but she didnt get cursed and its basiclly a mod called 
Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower
so basiclly i can have any key not taken away at all if i place it in her pocket
 
also i dont get the quest. with the gem charge? i didnt get it charged

[unmog]

Well theres other instances of NPC followers you can have that dont get touched by cursed loot. One case being my kid I adopted and made into a follower with RS Children. Its good Cursed Loot doesnt touch her though really, leave that stuff to the adults. But Ive always felt so bad having to leave her at home in town all the time and only seeing her when I come back to stash loot I havent sold yet. >.> Now we can be a mommy + daughter + housecarl adventuring team and I can teach her how to survive in the world on her own when she gets older.

 

To answer more specifically though, Im not sure exactly why but its probably something to do with a tag or keyword of certain npc followers.

[Raistlin_]

hey guys ty for the responses on load trouble and ctd's. heres a list of my mods just wondering if there are any I should take out so I can play forever if I so desire not til it slowly dies. are all saves on a slow death timer as you get further into the game, the duration depending on comp capabilities and number of mods?sorry for the questions I just really want to be able to play without worrying that this might be the last play session I get before the loading and constant ctd's will start.

LoadOrder_Skyrim_2015-07-05T18-03-11.txt

[unmog]

Im unsure of load order stuff since youd have to also go and find each of the mods you downloaded and read all the information, which I'm not going to do sorry.

 

However its important to spend a little bit of time on each of the mods you downloaded and read what their incompatibilities and problems are so you dont run into these kinds of issues later on. Id suggest if you are having problems though, reinstall Skyrim from scratch, and start adding mods a couple at a time, and just make sure to make a note somewhere of their links and some personal notes of what they dont work with or what they say they should be loaded before and after.

 

Thats what I try to do anyway, and I have over 200 mods in my load order and it works fine.

[ntblood]

 What issues does the Frostfall patch for DCL address?  I'm just wondering if I need to have the patch (I do have Frostfall). If what it fixes is a minor conflict and I can get away without the patch it could save me some space in my LO.

 

Let me know.

 

 Thanks

[ForestElf]

 

 

Strange that it didn't end the BA quest properly. They are not meant to run simultaneously, but I cannot see a reason why the item removal should fail in the end. Odd.

 

 

 

If it is of any help, i think that before getting the courier quest, i also had a "slave chastiy belt". After the courier items were added and after the bondage adventure. When i finally hit "free me", it was like a dozen of things flying all over the place.

[Raistlin_]

hey guys ty for the responses on load trouble and ctd's. heres a list of my mods just wondering if there are any I should take out so I can play forever if I so desire not til it slowly dies. are all saves on a slow death timer as you get further into the game, the duration depending on comp capabilities and number of mods?sorry for the questions I just really want to be able to play without worrying that this might be the last play session I get before the loading and constant ctd's will start.

 

ty for your responses guys ill do the reinstall from scratch idea just to test.

 What issues does the Frostfall patch for DCL address?  I'm just wondering if I need to have the patch (I do have Frostfall). If what it fixes is a minor conflict and I can get away without the patch it could save me some space in my LO.

 

Let me know.

 

 Thanks

 

im not seeing a patch for frostfall and I don't remember one. was your query for me sorry? ill look through my mods again a cpl times just in case im overlooking one. if your talking about the chesko esp wearable lanterns that's another mod not frostfall.

 

[Guest]

 What issues does the Frostfall patch for DCL address?  I'm just wondering if I need to have the patch (I do have Frostfall). If what it fixes is a minor conflict and I can get away without the patch it could save me some space in my LO.

 

Let me know.

 

 Thanks

 

im not seeing a patch for frostfall and I don't remember one. was your query for me sorry? ill look through my mods again a cpl times just in case im overlooking one. if your talking about the chesko esp wearable lanterns that's another mod not frostfall.

 

 

 

No, they mean the patch on the download page

[Monoman1]

It's something to do with adding exposure protection while wearing a slave collar (can't wear clothes) if I remember correctly. 

[unmog]

Im unsure if the frostfall patch still works with the latest version of DCL. But then again Im very careful going around naked in skyrim now, but I also have the patch too.

 

If ya havent already, I set the timespeed in the game to be a lot slower, and thus I also set the cold rate in frostfall to like 0.1 to balance it out since ya wouldnt freeze to death in like 10 minutes.