Devious Cidhna (May-5-2018)

[firebinder]

On 3/23/2018 at 9:14 AM, worik said:

By random chance I managd to trigger the Prey/A Dish served hot quest. ... at least I guess so.

But I fear by using DDv4 I may have broken the quest?

• Cidhna quest line has not started beyond the point that my next step would be to "accidently meet" Eltrys and get his note.
• Farenger had a new (unknown to me) dialogue line, I was curious and *DANG* he put a collar on me
• Thanks to @valcon767 I could trace the dialogue to DC and the "prey" quest.
• Aside from the collar, I noticed nothing else. No plot, no events, no effects, just the collar.
• whenever I meet him, I have a line to ask him "remove it please" and he always refuses ... I should not interrupt the magic at work

In the meantime (weeks ago in-game) I managed to escape the collar (DDv4 escape) , but I still have the dialogue with Farengar.

So it seems to me, the escape was not detected?

 

At this point I wonder if I broke the quest beyond repair or if and where I would best continue the story ?

I would have to search Breezehome from top to bottom, but I guess I still have that collar somewhere. So the right item should be available, if that matters.

 

Edit:

The primary part of my question is the pure technical one, that needs to be solved first!

But if that's cleaned up, I am happy for any hints how to continue from an immersive story-telling perspective. Ain't that what RPG is all about ?

I just did this same quest I think, and at least for me Farengar put my character in the pink rubber collar from Deviously Cursed Loot. This initiated the "Rubber Doll" quest from that mod, and by completing that quest was how she got out of the collar. I don't think Farengar is supposed to remove it. Anyway much like you, I continued to get the dialog with Farengar as if she were still in the collar.

 

To fix it what I did was use the console to force the "Prey" quest to be complete ( completequest DvCidhna_Prey ). Hopefully that didn't break something else, but it does get rid of the Farengar dialog. 

[Joshmel]

Hey, I was wondering if someone more knowledgeable than I would be willing to help me figure out why I can't enter Cidhna mine without my game doing an infinite load screen. Here is my latest papyrus log and load  order:

My issue only arose after I installed Devious Cidhna Mine and Blood and Silver: Cidhna Mine Expanded. I have not tried taking one out and see if the other works yet. I am going to do that now.

Papyrus.0.log

LoadOrder_Skyrim_2018-04-06T10-13-19.txt

[stobor]

Uploaded a new version with various minor fixes and tweaks for better DD 4.0 compatibility.  See the main page version history for specifics.  This v1.9 is NOT localized for multiple languages.

[genericc]

Thank You for keeping this alive!

Is it safe to upgrade mid game as long as you don't have any active quests from devious cidhna?

[stobor]

Should be safe enough, practically everything gets initialized on quest starts so there shouldn't be any missing/empty quest properties to break stuff.

[valcon767]

woot update

 

may have to wait to install (i have to check if i have any of its quests currently active is all)

 

THANKS MUCH  

 

[LesboIsBesto]

Now all I need is Devious Framework and Captured Dreams to be updated and we lit

[cinemagic]

My favorite mod got updated wooo~

Thx very much for keeping it alive!

[El_Duderino]

Thank you!  I'm so happy you did the DD4 update, I've always enjoyed this magical quest collection greatly -- and I just realized, re-reading the first post, that I *still* haven't played all of the "extra" quests that follow Cidhna.

[stobor]

You're welcome.   Note that many of those 'extra' quests are essentially independent of the original Cidhna Mine scenario (or have multiple ways to start), so you don't have to do things in a fixed order in many cases.

[jlttsmiley]

Thanks for the update ,This has been a must have mod for me , because of the main quest , which is one of the most for me immersive build up to being enslave. and because DEVIOUSLY ENSLAVED is also a must have mod along with sd+ and sd cages the extra content added by this mod I never no what are were my toon will end up when a battle goes wrong.

[just_Gina]

Thank you. This has be a staple in my load order since the day you first shared it with us.

I am grateful for the update.

[radbomber]

Hi I ran into a problem. I am on the "Prize Possession" quest and when I first talk to Erikur I get to the line when he says that he is keeping the gag in and then the conversation doesn't continue. He doesn't say anything else and I can't skip further into it. I tried ending the conversation and restarting it, but then he just keeps saying "Let's go another round, shall we?" and nothing else. 

[stobor]

That should be followed by an animation as I recall, not more dialogue.  All of those are force-greet lines I think, and there's a cool-down timer to prevent a continuous force-greet loop.  Usually much of that timer's taken up by the animation.  I take it no animation played for you?

[special]

Can someone explain how to start "A dish served hot" ?

I meet the following as stated in the OP:  No conflicting quests, no DD devices of any kind, no follower.

I have talked to all 3 NPC's stated in the OP but none give me the quest.

I have completed and escaped Cidhna mine, I killed the King in Rags (Malacath) this play through.

What else needs to be done to start this quest?


thanks,

[radbomber]

On ‎4‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 9:39 PM, stobor said:

That should be followed by an animation as I recall, not more dialogue.  All of those are force-greet lines I think, and there's a cool-down timer to prevent a continuous force-greet loop.  Usually much of that timer's taken up by the animation.  I take it no animation played for you?

No, an animation didn't play. He just repeats himself until I walk away. Also are the doors supposed to be locked? I tried exploring a bit and was able to just walk out of the building and the quest ended.

[PubliusNV]

1 hour ago, special said:

Can someone explain how to start "A dish served hot" ?

I meet the following as stated in the OP:  No conflicting quests, no DD devices of any kind, no follower.

I have talked to all 3 NPC's stated in the OP but none give me the quest.

I have completed and escaped Cidhna mine, I killed the King in Rags (Malacath) this play through.

What else needs to be done to start this quest?


thanks,

The OP states that after talking to one of the three, you have to talk to Griffe at Mixwater Mill while wearing a device.  Did you do that?

[Punga]

What's a non Localized file? It's in the download section. Do I need that and the previous version or something? 

[special]

18 hours ago, PubliusNV said:

The OP states that after talking to one of the three, you have to talk to Griffe at Mixwater Mill while wearing a device.  Did you do that?

When speaking to any of those three npc's, there was no dialogue options that wasn't from the original Skyrim game so what is it I am supposed to do with those npc's?

 

I was expecting them to have some kind of dialogue then fit the Player with a device.

Is this not the case?

ADDITIONAL COMMENT

Apologies, I have got it working now.  Thanks

[stobor]

9 hours ago, Punga said:

What's a non Localized file? It's in the download section. Do I need that and the previous version or something? 

No, you only need the one download.  Non-localized == no support for translation to other languages.  Some of the earlier versions did have translation support, but they're outdated now.

[Punga]

I don't have dd4, so I would need 1.8 + 1.8 non-localized, or just 1.8. If so, why is there a 1.8 non-localized. 

[stobor]

I seem to recall that a few English-language folks experienced problems with the original v1.8 (Localized) version.   The localized version also doesn't play nice with the Creation Kit.  So I put the non-localized v1.8 ESP (and only the ESP, not the BSA with the scripts) up as well.  So if you're sticking with v1.8, my advice would be to start with the full version and optionally overlay the non-localized ESP on top of that (if you experience problems).

 

I don't recall what sort of problems people ran into, I never saw any myself.  But I have to use the non-localized version for development purposes anyway.

[Leeyds4LLTS]

When going back to Markarth to get Garvey to spy for Madenoch...  how do you know when the PC is successful?..  I just continually get "What do you want" dialog choice to Garvey where the PC can consent to an extra incentive, or not consent.... but it never seems to change.   

[stobor]

Because that's a never-completed dangling thread.  Not a full quest.

[grooovus]

Are there any hidden requirements to start a dish served hot, or is the whole being flagged for it hidden with no custom dialog or anything? Cause I have tried anything for talking to these 3 guys and not even a line of non vanilla dialogue appeared...