WaxenFigure Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I think pinky6225 has a point, some things are just too sexy to be excluded. Perhaps the explanation for the law should look like this: All free young women (excluding old women and girl children) are required to keep their cunt, ass and tits viewable and accessible for groping at all times. Use of weapons and spells by young women is also prohibited. The rape and molestation laws have been modified to exclude free young women who are now expected to either submit to sex requests or quickly flee. Free young women are expected to allow themselves to be groped without complaint. Slaves must always submit. Any complaints about being groped, failing to submit or flee from a sex request or violations of the exposure law make you subject to being declared as property and enslaved. ---------------------- Allowing for a future ability for males to solicit you for sex that requires you to flee within a few seconds or submit to the request also leaves open a door where you can attempt to brawl to prevent the sex but if you win you can be enslaved for failing to flee and if you lose it's the same but you get raped too. A little check to make sure you get a far enough distance away from the requester of sex (or out of sight but they will also follow at a walking pace!) that requires you to sprint at least a bit makes avoiding the requested sex possible but at least slightly difficult as well especially if obstacles mean a straight line escape isn't possible. Adding the "groping" rule means that any male who comes close to you may molest you (would just be a text notification unless someone can build some animations for this). Walking away from the molester of course is a failure to submit to being groped and provides another path into the slave part of the mod. To keep from being too difficult a groping session would only happen if you are not moving. Possible groping messages where Z would be the name of the groper: X is rubbing your leg. X is rubbing your arm. X is rubbing your back. X is putting his finger in your mouth. X pinched your ass. X grabbed your ass. X swatted you on the ass. X is pushing his finger into your asshole. X is finger fucking your asshole. X put his hand on your pussy. X put his finger into your pussy. X is rubbing your pussy with his hand. X is rubbing your clit. X is pinching your clit. X is finger fucking your pussy. X is holding your pussy open with his fingers. X is pinching your labia X has grabbed one of your breasts. X is pinching one of your nipples. x is painfully twisting your nipples. X is sucking on your breast. X is biting your nipple. X has finished groping you for now. When a groping session starts you could have to wait for the molester to finish before you can move. The longer the groper keeps molesting you the more likely they are going to request sex next and you'd better decide if you're going to submit or plan your escape if you want to flee. ---------------------- Just some ideas to help flesh out the mod in some interesting ways, feel free to ignore or implement them as you feel fit.
afa Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Wait so running away is perfectly legal as long as you do it quick enough? I guess it works from a gameplay perspective Also I wonder if we can have NPC plays minor animation like the list above with reasonable accuracy without removing the control from PC. Or have the animation play while dialog choices is up.
Yokorose Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Just to let you know you may want to put on the install info that its different mods in a folder... i was wondering why it did not work but out fount as i use nexus mod manger to install all my mods and thought why it not working but now it works fine .
badbat111 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Just to let you know you may want to put on the install info that its different mods in a folder... i was wondering why it did not work but out fount as i use nexus mod manger to install all my mods and thought why it not working but now it works fine . have you tryed starting from a new game its odd a old save wouldnt work but a new game worked for quest and town
jfraser Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Just to let you know you may want to put on the install info that its different mods in a folder... i was wondering why it did not work but out fount as i use nexus mod manger to install all my mods and thought why it not working but now it works fine . have you tryed starting from a new game its odd a old save wouldnt work but a new game worked for quest and town No, he's commenting on the zipped file you download from here, and suggesting a note on the download page warning that it can't just automatically be installed since to need to extract the version you want.
pinky6225 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I think pinky6225 has a point, some things are just too sexy to be excluded.Perhaps the explanation for the law should look like this:All free young women (excluding old women and girl children) are required to keep their cunt, ass and tits viewable and accessible for groping at all times. Use of weapons and spells by young women is also prohibited.The rape and molestation laws have been modified to exclude free young women who are now expected to either submit to sex requests or quickly flee. Free young women are expected to allow themselves to be groped without complaint. Slaves must always submit.Any complaints about being groped, failing to submit or flee from a sex request or violations of the exposure law make you subject to being declared as property and enslaved.----------------------Allowing for a future ability for males to solicit you for sex that requires you to flee within a few seconds or submit to the request also leaves open a door where you can attempt to brawl to prevent the sex but if you win you can be enslaved for failing to flee and if you lose it's the same but you get raped too. A little check to make sure you get a far enough distance away from the requester of sex (or out of sight but they will also follow at a walking pace!) that requires you to sprint at least a bit makes avoiding the requested sex possible but at least slightly difficult as well especially if obstacles mean a straight line escape isn't possible.Adding the "groping" rule means that any male who comes close to you may molest you (would just be a text notification unless someone can build some animations for this). Walking away from the molester of course is a failure to submit to being groped and provides another path into the slave part of the mod. To keep from being too difficult a groping session would only happen if you are not moving.Possible groping messages where Z would be the name of the groper:X is rubbing your leg.X is rubbing your arm.X is rubbing your back.X is putting his finger in your mouth.X pinched your ass.X grabbed your ass.X swatted you on the ass.X is pushing his finger into your asshole.X is finger fucking your asshole.X put his hand on your pussy.X put his finger into your pussy.X is rubbing your pussy with his hand.X is rubbing your clit.X is pinching your clit.X is finger fucking your pussy.X is holding your pussy open with his fingers.X is pinching your labiaX has grabbed one of your breasts.X is pinching one of your nipples.x is painfully twisting your nipples.X is sucking on your breast.X is biting your nipple.X has finished groping you for now.When a groping session starts you could have to wait for the molester to finish before you can move. The longer the groper keeps molesting you the more likely they are going to request sex next and you'd better decide if you're going to submit or plan your escape if you want to flee.----------------------Just some ideas to help flesh out the mod in some interesting ways, feel free to ignore or implement them as you feel fit. Free women having to wear chastity gear to prevent use would make more sense but would require dependancies That would leave the rest as slaves but i think you'd still need something to tell an owned slave from an unowned slave since owners might not want peeps using there property but maybe thats where the flee part could come in to avoid usage that's not been permitted by their master
badbat111 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 I think pinky6225 has a point, some things are just too sexy to be excluded. Perhaps the explanation for the law should look like this: All free young women (excluding old women and girl children) are required to keep their cunt, ass and tits viewable and accessible for groping at all times. Use of weapons and spells by young women is also prohibited. The rape and molestation laws have been modified to exclude free young women who are now expected to either submit to sex requests or quickly flee. Free young women are expected to allow themselves to be groped without complaint. Slaves must always submit. Any complaints about being groped, failing to submit or flee from a sex request or violations of the exposure law make you subject to being declared as property and enslaved. ---------------------- Allowing for a future ability for males to solicit you for sex that requires you to flee within a few seconds or submit to the request also leaves open a door where you can attempt to brawl to prevent the sex but if you win you can be enslaved for failing to flee and if you lose it's the same but you get raped too. A little check to make sure you get a far enough distance away from the requester of sex (or out of sight but they will also follow at a walking pace!) that requires you to sprint at least a bit makes avoiding the requested sex possible but at least slightly difficult as well especially if obstacles mean a straight line escape isn't possible. Adding the "groping" rule means that any male who comes close to you may molest you (would just be a text notification unless someone can build some animations for this). Walking away from the molester of course is a failure to submit to being groped and provides another path into the slave part of the mod. To keep from being too difficult a groping session would only happen if you are not moving. Possible groping messages where Z would be the name of the groper: X is rubbing your leg. X is rubbing your arm. X is rubbing your back. X is putting his finger in your mouth. X pinched your ass. X grabbed your ass. X swatted you on the ass. X is pushing his finger into your asshole. X is finger fucking your asshole. X put his hand on your pussy. X put his finger into your pussy. X is rubbing your pussy with his hand. X is rubbing your clit. X is pinching your clit. X is finger fucking your pussy. X is holding your pussy open with his fingers. X is pinching your labia X has grabbed one of your breasts. X is pinching one of your nipples. x is painfully twisting your nipples. X is sucking on your breast. X is biting your nipple. X has finished groping you for now. When a groping session starts you could have to wait for the molester to finish before you can move. The longer the groper keeps molesting you the more likely they are going to request sex next and you'd better decide if you're going to submit or plan your escape if you want to flee. ---------------------- Just some ideas to help flesh out the mod in some interesting ways, feel free to ignore or implement them as you feel fit. Free women having to wear chastity gear to prevent use would make more sense but would require dependancies That would leave the rest as slaves but i think you'd still need something to tell an owned slave from an unowned slave since owners might not want peeps using there property but maybe thats where the flee part could come in to avoid usage that's not been permitted by their master how about gold plated devices for the devices mod gold would be for un owned normal color devices for basic slaves ? but someone would need to make a gold texture for it
afa Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 Since majority of the shackles and slaves are just background characters without actual sex animation involve DD asset should be enough rather than bringing DDi and all its related scripted function items, should be a fairly light dependency. If author choose to go that route.
Jack Wow Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 My first post on LL !!! I am not a fan of the crucifixions as it does not look right in 'MY' Skyrim, but I also am not a fan as I end up seeing crucified women whizzing through the streets and had 2 in the Bannered Mare (1 in the kitchen). No doubt this is to do with NPC auto soliciting with TDF-Aggr. Pros. My BIG confusion is that you mention a Lite version without crucifixion but I cannot see it listed. Help!
Slammer64 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 @WaxenFigure, you been reading the Gor series again? Then again, those books did have a few good ideas that could be applied here.
Quisling Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 My BIG confusion is that you mention a Lite version without crucifixion but I cannot see it listed. Help! There are several options inside the download.
Jack Wow Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 My BIG confusion is that you mention a Lite version without crucifixion but I cannot see it listed. Help! There are several options inside the download. Showing my virgin status on this site but when I click Download all I get is one file - slaverun 20140610.rar
D_ManXX2 Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 No what he means open the rar file in there you can find regular or light version. extract the file to new folder and examine the folder structure. you should then see: 001 - full version or 002 - light version (Excluding fatalities) or something like that the 002 is what you want to use.
Jack Wow Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 No what he means open the rar file in there you can find regular or light version. extract the file to new folder and examine the folder structure. you should then see: 001 - full version or 002 - light version (Excluding fatalities) or something like that the 002 is what you want to use. I'm a Wrye Bash BAIN user and expected to have seen this. Now I know, I will tick "has extra directories" and install again. Thanks for pointing this out. EDIT: I was using v.07 not 10. However, after restructuring and cleaning with TES5EDIT (shouldn't be needed) I tried the mod and found the Guard dialogue bugged in a loop. Also with its conflict with Dawn of Whiterun I think I will give this mod a miss for a while.
WaxenFigure Posted June 16, 2014 Posted June 16, 2014 @WaxenFigure, you been reading the Gor series again? Then again, those books did have a few good ideas that could be applied here. Nope, only had to read them once a long time ago. But if you have Sexlab Aroused in your lineup most of the Papyrus log will be entries about getting arousal points. Add in the hyd_slavegirls mod parading naked slaves all over town and you have a recipe for a never ending fuck fest. Edit: Forgot to mention I also have Interesting NPCs, Inconsequential NPCs and Populated Cities and Towns all loaded. My Skyrim cities are all very busy places which is why I am working on a script to "enforce" the nudity law in Whiterun on all those mods without creating distinct patches for each of those mods. Cycling though all the NPCs it would be simple enough to have random male NPCs "groping" nearby female NPCs and of course watching their arousal to initiate sex when they are aroused enough.
xboronx Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I hope you share this mod if you make it WaxenFigure . Imho it would be a nice idea if you could tie the expansion of the law to a vanilla skyrim questline, for example say one of the civil war factions supports it, so you can chose if you want to support them or not and thus have the opportunity to try to enforce the law in all Skyrim holds or free Skyrim from slavery.
Debaster Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 @WaxenFigure, you been reading the Gor series again? Then again, those books did have a few good ideas that could be applied here. Nope, only had to read them once a long time ago. But if you have Sexlab Aroused in your lineup most of the Papyrus log will be entries about getting arousal points. Add in the hyd_slavegirls mod parading naked slaves all over town and you have a recipe for a never ending fuck fest. Edit: Forgot to mention I also have Interesting NPCs, Inconsequential NPCs and Populated Cities and Towns all loaded. My Skyrim cities are all very busy places which is why I am working on a script to "enforce" the nudity law in Whiterun on all those mods without creating distinct patches for each of those mods. Cycling though all the NPCs it would be simple enough to have random male NPCs "groping" nearby female NPCs and of course watching their arousal to initiate sex when they are aroused enough. This I really like. I too use inconsequential npc's and seeing clothed female patrons is pornmersion-breaking. As for random sex, has anyone had luck with using Lover's Victim? I have the rape set to 50 arousal but I can't seem to get it to work, don't know if lover's victim is out of date or not. These Gor books..... pervy pulpy sci-fi......... me likey
windbrand123 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Game crashes upon entering Bannered Mare after the update. Used to work fine though.
WaxenFigure Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Also working up a script to have a MCM menu with an option to turn on/off the crucifixes so there's no need to have a separate light version. Anything I do I will make available to PCHS so he can decide if he want to incorporate them in his mod or not.
agent57 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Been trying to get this mod stable on my build for a while now, initially I was getting a CTD 90% of the times I tried to enter whiterun. Switching to the lite version and changing the memory settings in skse.ini (v1.7) to the following fixed it. [Memory]DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB= 768ScrapHeapSizeMB= 256 I guessing the drop in npc numbers of the lite version combined with the larger heap was enough to push things back within tolerance levels. Anyways, just a quick bug report: Brutus is currently not marked as essential, and keeps getting killed by either dawnguards random vampire attacks or the dragonborn cultists before I get a chance to talk to him.
jfraser Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 @WaxenFigure, you been reading the Gor series again? Then again, those books did have a few good ideas that could be applied here.Nope, only had to read them once a long time ago. But if you have Sexlab Aroused in your lineup most of the Papyrus log will be entries about getting arousal points. Add in the hyd_slavegirls mod parading naked slaves all over town and you have a recipe for a never ending fuck fest. Edit: Forgot to mention I also have Interesting NPCs, Inconsequential NPCs and Populated Cities and Towns all loaded. My Skyrim cities are all very busy places which is why I am working on a script to "enforce" the nudity law in Whiterun on all those mods without creating distinct patches for each of those mods. Cycling though all the NPCs it would be simple enough to have random male NPCs "groping" nearby female NPCs and of course watching their arousal to initiate sex when they are aroused enough. This I really like. I too use inconsequential npc's and seeing clothed female patrons is pornmersion-breaking. As for random sex, has anyone had luck with using Lover's Victim? I have the rape set to 50 arousal but I can't seem to get it to work, don't know if lover's victim is out of date or not. These Gor books..... pervy pulpy sci-fi......... me likey I just rp the clothed females as a special class who have earned (or are rich and paid for) the right to wear clothes. Now only the clothed beggars break immersion. Edit: also, please make Brutus and the others protected, not essential. Until the quest has an actual end, I've just been stealing a dagger and slitting their throats to finish the storyline and escape.
DocClox Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Forgot to mention I also have Interesting NPCs, Inconsequential NPCs and Populated Cities and Towns all loaded. My Skyrim cities are all very busy places which is why I am working on a script to "enforce" the nudity law in Whiterun on all those mods without creating distinct patches for each of those mods. I'm impressed you can get slaverun to load at all with all those extra NPCs already active. How you planning to do it? You could cycle through all the female NPCs on entering a new cell, but that sounds like it could lag things quite lot. Might be easier to fire something off every 30 seconds or so that has the nearest guard go and strip the nearest clothed female. Not sure if the outfit changes would stick though. I mean if you entered a building and came back out. Or if they did, how you'd reset travelers when they let the city. I'm interested because I'm considering doing something similar for Windhelm. Since all True Daughters of Skyrim have already joined the Stormcloaks, Ulfric thinks it only fair that the ones that are left contribute by keeping morale up. (If the Imperials win, there will turn out to be some tricky bureaucratic issues to resolved before this (obviously unjust) measure can be repealed )
Lyrius Cantor Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 It seems that when a guard sees me in whiterun hold, but not the city, i still get the bounty for wearing clothes. is there a way to avoid this?
DocClox Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 For now just don't choose the "what" option. Currently almost everyone in the game will do that if you raise the subject
WaxenFigure Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Forgot to mention I also have Interesting NPCs, Inconsequential NPCs and Populated Cities and Towns all loaded. My Skyrim cities are all very busy places which is why I am working on a script to "enforce" the nudity law in Whiterun on all those mods without creating distinct patches for each of those mods. I'm impressed you can get slaverun to load at all with all those extra NPCs already active. How you planning to do it? You could cycle through all the female NPCs on entering a new cell, but that sounds like it could lag things quite lot. Might be easier to fire something off every 30 seconds or so that has the nearest guard go and strip the nearest clothed female. Not sure if the outfit changes would stick though. I mean if you entered a building and came back out. Or if they did, how you'd reset travelers when they let the city. I'm interested because I'm considering doing something similar for Windhelm. Since all True Daughters of Skyrim have already joined the Stormcloaks, Ulfric thinks it only fair that the ones that are left contribute by keeping morale up. (If the Imperials win, there will turn out to be some tricky bureaucratic issues to resolved before this (obviously unjust) measure can be repealed ) I am cycling through them every 5 seconds and yes as they enter and exit buildings they restore their clothing so the mod has to be checking in the background regularly. My problems right now is that some of them are "stripped" by my mod but still have their clothes on! Also only the women closest to the DB are stripped, those further away are visible but remain clothed until I approach them. Right now I am using the GetNumRefs(43) in the cell the player is in approach but I believe Whiterun is actually 6 different cells so that approach isn't going to do the job. I may have to switch to the spell radius effect method but that has a nasty habit of choking the game stack with dead entries if you leave just one path through the code without dispelling the spell so it looks like its working find for quite a while then boom, you have the game dumping the full stack into the papyrus log repeatedly causing it to bloat to enormous sizes and the game slows to a crawl.
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