gooser Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 One thing I have noticed (finally on the current version) is that you get messages about reduced wear and tear for NPCs even if you have the wear and tear system turned off, it seems some code that doesn't need to be running in that situation is still running. Enjoying this much more than the older one but didn't want to switch to it while I had a player only part way through. Someone else reported this but I wasn't able to track it down. Are you seeing a debug type message ("Reducing X's sexual wear and tear...") or more of an immersion message like what is found in FemaleActor_WearTearReduced_Vaginal.txt ? It's a debug.notification message on screen as I am playing. The message is "Reducing X's sexual wear and tear" though. If you turn off Debug in Apropos MCM (first page), it should quiet that message. It is only shown for debugging purposes. I will change the code so it only shows when Trace is enabled.
WaxenFigure Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 One thing I have noticed (finally on the current version) is that you get messages about reduced wear and tear for NPCs even if you have the wear and tear system turned off, it seems some code that doesn't need to be running in that situation is still running. Enjoying this much more than the older one but didn't want to switch to it while I had a player only part way through. Someone else reported this but I wasn't able to track it down. Are you seeing a debug type message ("Reducing X's sexual wear and tear...") or more of an immersion message like what is found in FemaleActor_WearTearReduced_Vaginal.txt ? It's a debug.notification message on screen as I am playing. The message is "Reducing X's sexual wear and tear" though. If you turn off Debug in Apropos MCM (first page), it should quiet that message. It is only shown for debugging purposes. I will change the code so it only shows when Trace is enabled. Thanks, wasn't really worried about it but thought you ought to know something had slipped through the net.
aloevera5 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Slavetats 1.1 is out, does anyone know if apropos works with Slavetats 1.1?
MidnightVT Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 not compatible with Jcontainers 3.1.1 sadly and if i update jcontainers i cant use my save it CTD. Shame i wont be able to use this mod unless it becomes compatible with 3.1.1 or if i decide to make a new character, then Ill use it.
Guest Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 If Im reading this right, we can alter the list of synonyms just by opening the text file and adding or deleting at will to the specific lists? If this is correct, can we send in fun synonym list change recomendations? Yes, God yes. Anyone who wants to contribute anything, just post it for others to download and use (do not send it to me). I don't take submissions for my db, because it can cause a fairly inconsistent tone, but as Gooser said, we need options. My db isn't to everyone's taste, but everyone who doesn't like it seems to either make their own and never share, or bitch to me to change my own work to cater for them. Gooser's about to add support for 'themes', which is basically just multiple dbs. So we need multiple dbs. Now, I'm well aware of just how much work a db is. It's a colossal amount of writing. So if you want to post your own stuff, feel free to just do, say, a single animation, or race, or whatever. Post it, in format, and include in the post what kind of theme it is; romantic, for spouses, for argonian females, nympho, offensive-as-fuck, whatever. That way, other people can see your post, and download it if that's the stuff they want. Same with synonyms or W&T descriptor files; edit them to fit your own theme, and post them. Then people can pick up whatever content they like and slap it in one of the Apropos theme db slots, add it to their own custom db, whatever. My only concern is content being lost in the thread over time, so someone may want to consider somewhere to gather all this stuff in one place (no, I'm not gonna do it).
nutluck Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 If Im reading this right, we can alter the list of synonyms just by opening the text file and adding or deleting at will to the specific lists? If this is correct, can we send in fun synonym list change recomendations? Yes, God yes. Anyone who wants to contribute anything, just post it for others to download and use (do not send it to me). I don't take submissions for my db, because it can cause a fairly inconsistent tone, but as Gooser said, we need options. My db isn't to everyone's taste, but everyone who doesn't like it seems to either make their own and never share, or bitch to me to change my own work to cater for them. Gooser's about to add support for 'themes', which is basically just multiple dbs. So we need multiple dbs. Now, I'm well aware of just how much work a db is. It's a colossal amount of writing. So if you want to post your own stuff, feel free to just do, say, a single animation, or race, or whatever. Post it, in format, and include in the post what kind of theme it is; romantic, for spouses, for argonian females, nympho, offensive-as-fuck, whatever. That way, other people can see your post, and download it if that's the stuff they want. Same with synonyms or W&T descriptor files; edit them to fit your own theme, and post them. Then people can pick up whatever content they like and slap it in one of the Apropos theme db slots, add it to their own custom db, whatever. My only concern is content being lost in the thread over time, so someone may want to consider somewhere to gather all this stuff in one place (no, I'm not gonna do it). I may eventually get around to doing a DB, but it is a ton of work and right now I am working on helping Wraith do solutions by coming up with those and writing some dialogue there. I agree it would be great if eventually there was half a dozen different themed DB's and users could then pick the one they want and drop it in. Especially if they was linked on the DL page as optional DL's so they was easy to find.
chajapa Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I've been kind of holding back until the next update. This does beg a question though... Will the new THEMES style, utilize the same basic format of the current description files? I understand they might have some additional tags, but overall, will they be in the same type of 1st, 2nd, 3rd person layout? I don't do a lot of the BDSM stuff, but I *DO* tend towards more of a "friends with benefits" environment. So my focus would be on more.... enjoyable, consensual, happily screaming each other's names and making huge puddles of..... sweat.... The rape files would still be rape files. But the non-rape descriptions would be more along the lines of what 2 consenting, loving, erotic, adults would depict. So.... no pissing in your partner! No crying as they're having sex, no BAD connotations. Just..... yes..... yes.... OOOOooohhhh.... yes. I've just been really reluctant to spend time on the existing text files because A.) Decauk has done a masterful job (for which you do not receive NEARLY enough thanks.... so.... THANKS!) and B.) I know things will be changing in the not-to-distant future I don't want to be a slug that just leeches when there's so much to do, but at the same time.... I don't want to be repeating a ton of work. HOWEVER.... if I know BASICALLY the format of the new text files, I can at least start building the files. Even if I have to go back in and add tags or make MINOR changes to layout/formatting. If I know the format will at least be CLOSE to what we have, I can at the very least, start building the groups of lines.
gooser Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 Chajapa I don't anticipate changing the internal format of any of the files going forward. There might be new files added (example: AnimationPatchups.txt), but the structure you refer to seems copacetic. Note to all users: I am going to target the latest Slavetats (1.1) , and latest (3.2.2) version of JContainers in the next release of Apropos. Please let me know asap if that is going get your shorts in a bunch.
pinky6225 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Chajapa I don't anticipate changing the internal format of any of the files going forward. There might be new files added (example: AnimationPatchups.txt), but the structure you refer to seems copacetic. Note to all users: I am going to target the latest Slavetats (1.1) , and latest (3.2.2) version of JContainers in the next release of Apropos. Please let me know asap if that is going get your shorts in a bunch. Dont see a problem with that and the only other mod i know of that uses jcontainer (RP - tweaked) works with 3.2.2 if you get the recompiled scripts from the thread
Guest Jezzy Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 can't wait to see the new features of your mod
Grimbold the unlovely Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Chajapa I don't anticipate changing the internal format of any of the files going forward. There might be new files added (example: AnimationPatchups.txt), but the structure you refer to seems copacetic. Note to all users: I am going to target the latest Slavetats (1.1) , and latest (3.2.2) version of JContainers in the next release of Apropos. Please let me know asap if that is going get your shorts in a bunch. I'm not sure what it means. Would it make existing save games unplayable?
gooser Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 I tend to think old games, if they are cleaned correctly would have a good chance of being playable. The only problem scenario is playing with a JC 3.2.x mod then trying to roll back and play in an environment with mods using JC 3.1.0 or JC 3.0.0. See the notes on JContainers page, e.g. Feature version downgrade (for ex. use of JC 3.0 on a save made with JC 3.2) may lead to JC data loss
MidnightVT Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I already cant use this mod becuase I have JC 3.1.1 and it doesnt work. I updated to 3.2 or whatever and my saves wont load, just CTD. I feel like JC is not very upgrade friendly and changing the game may cost people the ability to use your mod. I could be wrong.
gooser Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 I already cant use this mod becuase I have JC 3.1.1 and it doesnt work. I updated to 3.2 or whatever and my saves wont load, just CTD. I feel like JC is not very upgrade friendly and changing the game may cost people the ability to use your mod. I could be wrong. Its hard to see the truth to what you are seeing since you have provided zero evidence other than "doesn't work". I can't disprove you either, since I have only used JContainers 3.0.x. If you suspect problems with JContainers, I suggest you report to the JContainers support thread, and provide actual supporting evidence. We cannot peer into your crystal balls perpetually.
MidnightVT Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I already cant use this mod becuase I have JC 3.1.1 and it doesnt work. I updated to 3.2 or whatever and my saves wont load, just CTD. I feel like JC is not very upgrade friendly and changing the game may cost people the ability to use your mod. I could be wrong. Its hard to see the truth to what you are seeing since you have provided zero evidence other than "doesn't work". I can't disprove you either, since I have only used JContainers 3.0.x. If you suspect problems with JContainers, I suggest you report to the JContainers support thread, and provide actual supporting evidence. We cannot peer into your crystal balls perpetually. WOW. I swear i wasnt making this up it was not working for me at all with 3.1.1 initially. It would show up in MCM but it said "Derp" as the only menu option and said requires JContainers 3.......... and wouldnt work I just loaded everything backup to try and post screenshots and debug logs... and now I can see all the MCM menus like wear and tear etc.. IDK wtf. but yeah.... disregard sorry lol.
gooser Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 I already cant use this mod becuase I have JC 3.1.1 and it doesnt work. I updated to 3.2 or whatever and my saves wont load, just CTD. I feel like JC is not very upgrade friendly and changing the game may cost people the ability to use your mod. I could be wrong. Its hard to see the truth to what you are seeing since you have provided zero evidence other than "doesn't work". I can't disprove you either, since I have only used JContainers 3.0.x. If you suspect problems with JContainers, I suggest you report to the JContainers support thread, and provide actual supporting evidence. We cannot peer into your crystal balls perpetually. WOW. I swear i wasnt making this up it was not working for me at all with 3.1.1 initially. It would show up in MCM but it said "Derp" as the only menu option and said requires JContainers 3.......... and wouldnt work I just loaded everything backup to try and post screenshots and debug logs... and now I can see all the MCM menus like wear and tear etc.. IDK wtf. but yeah.... disregard sorry lol. Ok, that is more evidence. I never claimed you made it up and sorry if you took it that way. Just that many people who mod their game lose track of cause and effect, or they jump to conclusions about what change caused what effect. Make sense? Typically we start looking at mod order, and log files to start to sniff down the real root cause.
Reesewow Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I have been keeping my Jcontainers installs up to date lately without any compatibility problems. I don't use Radiant Prostitution because the mod is unfortunately quite unstable for me in it's unsupported state, and I can't think of any other prominent mod that depends on old versions of Jcontainers out of the box.
Fredfish Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I rarely seem to get past level 10 or so before some new shiney comes out so already using slave tats 1.1 Oh! Look! Jcontainers has been update to 3.2.2....
gooser Posted February 23, 2015 Author Posted February 23, 2015 I rarely seem to get past level 10 or so before some new shiney comes out so already using slave tats 1.1 Oh! Look! Jcontainers has been update to 3.2.2.... Your playing too slowly. LOL.
Earen Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 If Im reading this right, we can alter the list of synonyms just by opening the text file and adding or deleting at will to the specific lists? If this is correct, can we send in fun synonym list change recomendations? Yes, God yes. Anyone who wants to contribute anything, just post it for others to download and use (do not send it to me). I don't take submissions for my db, because it can cause a fairly inconsistent tone, but as Gooser said, we need options. My db isn't to everyone's taste, but everyone who doesn't like it seems to either make their own and never share, or bitch to me to change my own work to cater for them. Gooser's about to add support for 'themes', which is basically just multiple dbs. So we need multiple dbs. Now, I'm well aware of just how much work a db is. It's a colossal amount of writing. So if you want to post your own stuff, feel free to just do, say, a single animation, or race, or whatever. Post it, in format, and include in the post what kind of theme it is; romantic, for spouses, for argonian females, nympho, offensive-as-fuck, whatever. That way, other people can see your post, and download it if that's the stuff they want. Same with synonyms or W&T descriptor files; edit them to fit your own theme, and post them. Then people can pick up whatever content they like and slap it in one of the Apropos theme db slots, add it to their own custom db, whatever. My only concern is content being lost in the thread over time, so someone may want to consider somewhere to gather all this stuff in one place (no, I'm not gonna do it). I may eventually get around to doing a DB, but it is a ton of work and right now I am working on helping Wraith do solutions by coming up with those and writing some dialogue there. I agree it would be great if eventually there was half a dozen different themed DB's and users could then pick the one they want and drop it in. Especially if they was linked on the DL page as optional DL's so they was easy to find. I'd suggest you guys to make a repo to simplify collaboration and etc. Maybe on Github or somewhere else. I remember @Gooser warned of the problems with GH because of sexual content, but look - DD repositories are also hosted there. It's possible derive themes from @Decauk (i.e. create few new branches); one branch - one theme
Seen12345 Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 All right. I have a problem. When any agrresive animation begin, animation goes on but menus freeze. When I try to open console game freeze like it opens but it doesn't. When ı press the button again, game countinues. I don't know what causes this. Please help?
gooser Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 All right. I have a problem. When any agrresive animation begin, animation goes on but menus freeze. When I try to open console game freeze like it opens but it doesn't. When ı press the button again, game countinues. I don't know what causes this. Please help? Sounds like papyrus stack thrashing/dumping. Redirect to main Skyrim support thread (or SexLab support thread). As reference see: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42990-animations-taking-too-long-to-start/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/41442-sexlab-defeat-lagging-animations/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/34794-stack-dumps/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/38380-stack-thrashing-caused-by-zadplayerscriptzadquest/
WaxenFigure Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 All right. I have a problem. When any agrresive animation begin, animation goes on but menus freeze. When I try to open console game freeze like it opens but it doesn't. When ı press the button again, game countinues. I don't know what causes this. Please help? Sounds like papyrus stack thrashing/dumping. Redirect to main Skyrim support thread (or SexLab support thread). As reference see: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/42990-animations-taking-too-long-to-start/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/41442-sexlab-defeat-lagging-animations/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/34794-stack-dumps/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/38380-stack-thrashing-caused-by-zadplayerscriptzadquest/ If you are having stack dumps filling up your papyrus log find the most repeated script or scripts referenced in the stack dumps part of the log in that log and see which mod they belong to, if it's Submit and repeated references to the indecency scripts then you need the patched version of that mod I recently posted to that thread. If it's another mod you need to let the author of that mod know. Note: When checking the stack dumps, select just one set of the stack dumps. Once it starts happening the stack will dump repeatedly bloating the log. Find the point where the first one ends and ignore all the dumps after that.
Seen12345 Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Umm, sory but ı have no idea how to use the papyrus. A little bit of newvie. Can you explain a bit?
gooser Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 Umm, sory but ı have no idea how to use the papyrus. A little bit of newvie. Can you explain a bit? http://bit.ly/1wf1Meq
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