Apropos

[chajapa]

Wouldn't you then also need Female_MaleActor_ZynRoughStanding ("SHE picked me up and fucked me with a strapon.")

 

A Male PC runs into a female bandit in a ruin somewhere and she bends him over and gives him a grudge fuck in the ass. 

It could happen. I wouldn't want to be the one to say I'd been overpowered by a girl though..... just sayin'....

 

[gooser]

Wouldn't you then also need Female_MaleActor_ZynRoughStanding ("SHE picked me up and fucked me with a strapon.")

 

A Male PC runs into a female bandit in a ruin somewhere and she bends him over and gives him a grudge fuck in the ass. 

It could happen. I wouldn't want to be the one to say I'd been overpowered by a girl though..... just sayin'....

 

Yes, that fits in the pattern.

[handsandarrows]

I have a question, and i hope it is not covered in the description and i missed it 

 

If i want my character to have negative effect faster (maybe already after two sex in a row), i would set 

Maximum Wear and Tear Value to a lower amount? Like 1000?

 

Also Wear and Tear Degrade Factor is the speed at which the player recover, so 1.2 is faster then 1.0?

 

And one last thing, is it normal my character returns back to "Virgin", then "Player not tracked for Wear and Tear" when i don't have sex for a while?

 

 

[Fredfish]

As I understand it...

 

Maximum Wear and Tear Value is the most damage you can take, it wont go over this number

 

Wear and Tear Degrade Factor If its at 1 your character will repair at a steady rate, If its set higher your recovery speed will get faster the longer you go without sex.

 

You should not go back to virgin, it sometimes happedens to me too though.

 

If you want to increase the damage per act you need to edit the WearAndTear_Damage.txt file in the Apropos db Folder

You can change it for humans/dragons/creatures and there's a multiplier value for aggressive/rape

[gooser]

I have a question, and i hope it is not covered in the description and i missed it 

 

If i want my character to have negative effect faster (maybe already after two sex in a row), i would set 

Maximum Wear and Tear Value to a lower amount? Like 1000?

 

Also Wear and Tear Degrade Factor is the speed at which the player recover, so 1.2 is faster then 1.0?

 

And one last thing, is it normal my character returns back to "Virgin", then "Player not tracked for Wear and Tear" when i don't have sex for a while?

 

When you say returns back to Virgin, what do you mean? Do you mean the W&T stats page in MCM ? Or do you mean you start seeing messages about loosing virginity again?

[handsandarrows]

Thank you Fredfish! And yes gooser, i mean in MCM Menu, it will sometimes return to Virgin or Player Not Tracked. I have turned messages off, i use your great mod for debuff and visual effect.

 

Also it is not really a problem, i was only curious if it should happen. Maybe it happen because i use ShowRaceMenu alot?

[snoopingasusual]

 

 

Ive installed JContainers yet the MCM is claiming JContainers not installed. I am using mod organizer

 

Is JContainers last in the left hand pane of MO?  Some mods like the unpatched versions of Radiant Prostitution had an old JContainers bundled with it.  Right click on the JContainers mod in the left hand pane, select Information, then check the conflicts tab to see if any of the files are being over written by another mod.

 

 

yep, Jcontainers is in the left pane of MO just befor apropos, no conflicts

 

 

still cant get it to work, I even tried different versions of jcontainers and apropos. every time the mcm just says Derp. Is the DerpyDerpDerp mod I installed possibly the problem?

[Fredfish]

 

 

 

I have a question, and i hope it is not covered in the description and i missed it 

 

If i want my character to have negative effect faster (maybe already after two sex in a row), i would set 

Maximum Wear and Tear Value to a lower amount? Like 1000?

 

Also Wear and Tear Degrade Factor is the speed at which the player recover, so 1.2 is faster then 1.0?

 

And one last thing, is it normal my character returns back to "Virgin", then "Player not tracked for Wear and Tear" when i don't have sex for a while?

 

When you say returns back to Virgin, what do you mean? Do you mean the W&T stats page in MCM ? Or do you mean you start seeing messages about loosing virginity again?

 

 

 

 

The W&T stats page. it may be that I sometimes add or remove mods and that messes up Jcontainers or my healing is set too high?

 

[Fredfish]

 

 

 

 

 

Ive installed JContainers yet the MCM is claiming JContainers not installed. I am using mod organizer

 

Is JContainers last in the left hand pane of MO?  Some mods like the unpatched versions of Radiant Prostitution had an old JContainers bundled with it.  Right click on the JContainers mod in the left hand pane, select Information, then check the conflicts tab to see if any of the files are being over written by another mod.
 

 

 

yep, Jcontainers is in the left pane of MO just befor apropos, no conflicts

 

 

still cant get it to work, I even tried different versions of jcontainers and apropos. every time the mcm just says Derp, JContainers not installed or possibly problems

 

 

 

 

What versions of Jcontainers and SKSE are you using?
 

[Earen]

 

still cant get it to work, I even tried different versions of jcontainers and apropos. every time the mcm just says Derp, JContainers not installed or possibly problems

 

Install "[Optional] JContainers safeguard" on the JC download page, enter the game and it may diagnose and report the issue. And may not. There are lot of possible causes - no SKSE, old SKSE, script file and dll file versions mismatch, the game wasn't launched via skse_launcher.

 

[Johnnyuu29]

Hi I've a problem with abuse textures which don't appear when my character has been raped I have the version 1.1.4 of slavetats the abuse tats appear in the slavetats mcm

[Content Consumer]

Hi I've a problem with abuse textures which don't appear when my character has been raped I have the version 1.1.4 of slavetats the abuse tats appear in the slavetats mcm

You have to enable W&T slavetats in the Apropos MCM.

And even then, they don't automatically appear... W&T is a cumulative effect, you'll have to get raped several times for the textures to show up.

Depending on how you've got the settings in the Apropos/DB/WearAndTear_Damage.txt file set up, I mean... getting raped by a dragon is going to hurt a lot more than a Riekling.

[boom123]

I've got Slave Tats installed and working, but there are no abuse textures in Apropos menu. Have I done something wrong?

[Content Consumer]

I've got Slave Tats installed and working, but there are no abuse textures in Apropos menu. Have I done something wrong?

Did you download either of these?

 

[cold burn]

I've got Slave Tats installed and working, but there are no abuse textures in Apropos menu. Have I done something wrong?

Alright. First of all re download the textures- never hurts to double check. Second- make sure you have these enabled in the MCM menu as they are not enabled by default. Thirdly you should note that it actually takes a lot of sex for these to show up and some a relatively subtle. Lastly you may have an issue of not having enough open slots in your NetImmerse override INI. I personally doubled every slot as I have two-four taken up in each slot by freckles and/or tattoos.

 

Hope that covers all the possible issues that may be present if SlaveTats is working- I know that personally I simply had to increase the amount of slots as there where none free due to my love of freckles.

[boom123]

Yes, I downloaded that file. In slavetats i have option to put on this textures, but in MCM from Apropos there are no option to turn on these textures. When I set wear and tear status all to 9 with MCM, textures dont change.

[hashdotbang]

Really looking forward to having the MCM Text Widget in place of Debug Notifications. It should help with text immersion significantly.

[AlericoftheNords]

Really looking forward to having the MCM Text Widget in place of Debug Notifications. It should help with text immersion significantly.

 

This.

[Guest]

 

All of them, really.

For example, 'FemaleActor_ZynRoughStanding'.

Because it doesn't have 'FemaleActor_Male', 'FemaleActor_Female' or 'Female_FemaleActor', there's no way to differentiate between which pairing we have.

The messages should have three different versions:

 

HE picked me up and fucked me with his cock.

SHE picked me up and fucked me with a strapon.

I picked HER up and fucked HER with a strapon.

 

Might I suggest simply adding the 'Actor_target' structure to the file names? Unless you have a simpler solution?

 

You are right. It's either uniquely named files, or restructuring the innards. I prefer the file approach, because that would cause a lot less code, and probably be more performant (reading & parsing smaller vs. larger JSON files).

 

I think the format should be:

 

Male_FemaleActor_ZynRoughStanding ("HE picked me up and fucked me with his cock.")

Female_FemaleActor_ZynRoughStanding ("SHE picked me up and fucked me with a strapon.")

FemaleActor_Female_ZynRoughStanding ("I picked HER up and fucked HER with a strapon.")

 

And also I guess pegging:

 

FemaleActor_Male_ZynRoughStanding ("I picked HIM up and fucked HIS ass with a strapon.")

 

 

Does this only apply for human scenes? Should I just leave creature files as they are? Or should they also change, for example, "Wolf_FemaleActor_Wolfpanicnew"?

 

EDIT: Ignore this, see next post.

 

[Guest]

Okay, at the risk of giving myself more work to do, I'd like to propose a slight change the naming scheme to remove a confusing inconsistency.

Right now, whether the 'Actor' and the, well, other person goes first or second in the name appears to be arbitrary.

Examples:

 

FemaleActor_Male - the normal files, with the dude fucking the woman.

FemaleActor_Male - Unique files for the opposite, with the chick fucking the guy with a strapon.

MaleActor_Female - the normal files, with the dude fucking the woman.

FemaleActor_Female - PC fucking an NPC with a strapon.

Female_FemaleActor - NPC fucking the PC with a strapon.

 

Basically, a lot of the normal, non-Unique files have the opposite naming scheme to the proposed FF stuff and the Unique Animations.

For ease in keeping track of and writing content, I'd like to propose a more consistent method:

 

The person listed first is the 'traditional' position [0], or receiver. The person listed second is position [1], or giver.

This keeps the new FF & Unique Animation names in line with existing files, and means there's no confusion between normal and Unique files having the opposite names.

So...

 

FemaleActor_Male - female PC gets fucked by male NPC, both normal and unique.

Male_FemaleActor - male NPC gets fucked by a female PC with a strapon.

FemaleActor_Female - female PC gets fucked by a female NPC with a strapon.

Female_FemaleActor - female NPC gets fucked by a female PC with a strapon.

MaleActor_Female - male PC fucks a female NPC.

Female_MaleActor - female NPC fucks a male PC with a strapon.

MaleActor_Male - male PC fucks a male NPC.

Male_MaleActor - male NPC fucks a male PC.

 

FemaleActor_Bear - female PC gets fucked by a bear.

etc etc etc.

 

A nice, clean, consistent naming scheme will cause a lot less problems down the road, and less requirement to look up which naming scheme for which file type! It also means no confusion as to which party to name {PRIMARY} and {ACTIVE} (although can I clarify; position[0] is always {PRIMARY}?)

 

As for the Virgin files, and whether FF should affect it; I'd say Virgin should simply be overhauled at a later date.

I'd prefer separate files for losing your virginity to different things. For example, the virgin messages about the first taste of cum won't make a lot of sense if your PC just sucked off a strapon.

There's a lot of interesting and immersive stuff that could be done with the virgin messages, but I'd leave it for a future project.

[SuplenC]

<<<<<<<<<<<<IDEA>>>>>>>>>>>>

 

Orgasm Controller.

I had a new idea for this mod when installing SexLab Squirt.

• Orgasm counter. A number of orgasm in a row could change a comment after another orgasm.
• Squirt when orgasming too much/Big schlong/good lover.
• Buffs/Debuffs after a number of orgasm (too much orgasms are exhausting).
• Squirting too much can provoke debuff on magicka.
• If player finishes his magicka when squirting again and again it could dmg health and make player bleed (squirt bleed if checked Hardcore effects) with texture.
• A big number of orgasms in a row could provoke black out or almost black out (darker screen).

[Guest]

Could be simplified by having different W&T increase messages for different levels.

For example, one set of minor messages for W&T increasing from 1-4, some more severe messages from 5-7, and more brutal messages 8-9.

 

Depending on how many mods people have running, yet another counter spell might be a bit much.

[gooser]

Okay, at the risk of giving myself more work to do, I'd like to propose a slight change the naming scheme to remove a confusing inconsistency.

Right now, whether the 'Actor' and the, well, other person goes first or second in the name appears to be arbitrary.

Examples:

 

FemaleActor_Male - the normal files, with the dude fucking the woman.

FemaleActor_Male - Unique files for the opposite, with the chick fucking the guy with a strapon.

MaleActor_Female - the normal files, with the dude fucking the woman.

FemaleActor_Female - PC fucking an NPC with a strapon.

Female_FemaleActor - NPC fucking the PC with a strapon.

 

Basically, a lot of the normal, non-Unique files have the opposite naming scheme to the proposed FF stuff and the Unique Animations.

For ease in keeping track of and writing content, I'd like to propose a more consistent method:

 

The person listed first is the 'traditional' position [0], or receiver. The person listed second is position [1], or giver.

This keeps the new FF & Unique Animation names in line with existing files, and means there's no confusion between normal and Unique files having the opposite names.

So...

 

FemaleActor_Male - female PC gets fucked by male NPC, both normal and unique.

Male_FemaleActor - male NPC gets fucked by a female PC with a strapon.

FemaleActor_Female - female PC gets fucked by a female NPC with a strapon.

Female_FemaleActor - female NPC gets fucked by a female PC with a strapon.

MaleActor_Female - male PC fucks a female NPC.

Female_MaleActor - female NPC fucks a male PC with a strapon.

MaleActor_Male - male PC fucks a male NPC.

Male_MaleActor - male NPC fucks a male PC.

 

FemaleActor_Bear - female PC gets fucked by a bear.

etc etc etc.

 

A nice, clean, consistent naming scheme will cause a lot less problems down the road, and less requirement to look up which naming scheme for which file type! It also means no confusion as to which party to name {PRIMARY} and {ACTIVE} (although can I clarify; position[0] is always {PRIMARY}?)

 

As for the Virgin files, and whether FF should affect it; I'd say Virgin should simply be overhauled at a later date.

I'd prefer separate files for losing your virginity to different things. For example, the virgin messages about the first taste of cum won't make a lot of sense if your PC just sucked off a strapon.

There's a lot of interesting and immersive stuff that could be done with the virgin messages, but I'd leave it for a future project.

 

These are good ideas. I would also like to revisit the naming scheme for rape files. Right now, only one possible rapist is considered, but as I was pointed out a normal MF animation (non-pegging) could entail the female raping the male. RIght now there is no way to convey this in the mod - only the possibility of male rapist is considered.

[Guest]

Should I go ahead and use the above naming scheme for the files rewrite then?

 

As for rape files, it should only affect Male/Female and creature animations. FF and MM, the aggressor is whoever has the cock/strapon.

Might I suggest keeping _Rape for all the normal above files, and adding _Victim for the missing ones? The 'Victim' name simply reversing the 'normal' role.

 

FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal_Rape - male rapes female.

FemaleActor_Male_Vaginal_Victim - female rapes male by hopping on his cock (name in same order, same scenes as above)

Male_FemaleActor_Vaginal_Victim - female rapes male with a strapon (names reversed, scene reversed, still 'vaginal' tag depending on animation used).

Male_FemaleActor_Vaginal_Rape - male rapes female by hopping on her strapon (yes, sounds weird, but someone probably wants this).

MaleActor_Female_Vaginal_Rape - male rapes female.

MaleActor_Female_Vaginal_Victim - female rapes male by jumping on his cock.

Female_MaleActor_Vaginal_Rape - male rapes female by jumping on her strapon.

Female_MaleActor_Vaginal_Victim - female rapes male with strapon.

FemaleActor_Female_Vaginal_Rape - female NPC rapes female PC with a strapon.

Female_FemaleActor_Vaginal_Rape - female PC rapes female NPC with a strapon.

FemaleActor_Female_Vaginal_Victim - female NPC rapes female PC by hopping on her strapon (yeah, still weird).

Female_FemaleActor_Vaginal_Victim - female PC rapes female NPC by hopping on her strapon.

FemaleActor_Spriggan_Vaginal_Rape - spriggan rapes female.

FemaleActor_Spriggan_Vaginal_Victim - female rapes spriggan.

 

Basically, the order of the names at the front dictates who's giving and who's taking. Actor dictates perspective. Rape or Victim dictates 'normal' roles or 'reversed' roles. Vaginal/Anal/whatever changed to ZynRoughStanding/whatever for Unique Animation files.

 

I'm aware that Spriggans aren't yet supported, just using them as an example since there are actually 'monster being raped' animations for them.

 

With a consistent naming scheme, you can also flag which ones should and should not trigger W&T.

So, no W&T to a female raping someone with a strapon. You could even add Anal and Oral W&T files for dudes, having 'vaginal' rapes against him simply add to Anal.

 

EDIT: To anyone actually watching this thread right now, yes. I have indeed just edited this post about a dozen times. This should be the final version of my proposed naming scheme!

[SuplenC]

How about my idea?