Pantheress Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Could anyone explain, in simple turns, how to add support for a custom race? I'm playing with the Lykaios race and I never get any nouns(cock, vagina, mouth, etc) during sex, for any of the participants. Any help will be appreciated.
Wolferlicu1 Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Hi Gooser, wanted to thank you for the mod, it's something I consider essential. Along with Estelle's tool, this transforms the game a lot more than I expected. It also makes most other "consequences" mods redundant. Tho I do have a request for the SlaveTats system. I can't figure out the formula by which the system levels up, I really wanted it to go up a bit faster. I've changed the "AggressiveOrRape" part of the Damage.txt to 4 which seems to provide a good progression with the default 2000 pool, but this only works when uninstalling the mod completely from the save (or starting a new game). Could you please provide some MCM options for the Tats system? Same as for the normal, a maximum value for effects to appear, a minimum for the maximum effect and a different timer for the decay?
Amber Fletcher Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I "CANNOT" wait for the update to this mod, it makes the animations so much more meaningful to read the descriptions that you've come up with (really love the ones for creature animations so far, wish there was far more of them ). Also wanted to ask that you please keep support for first person prospective for the descriptions too when you finally get to it being a widget instead.And I hope that the one mod that does voice to text and everything for this mod (http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1554-estelles-apropos-utility/) gets updated after this does too, would love to try it out as I think it'd add a nice voice over effect P.S. Came here to read the comments on the mod and make sure it hadn't died, since it's been ages since I saw an update for it, and very happy that you're still tirelessly working on it
gooser Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 I "CANNOT" wait for the update to this mod, it makes the animations so much more meaningful to read the descriptions that you've come up with (really love the ones for creature animations so far, wish there was far more of them ). Also wanted to ask that you please keep support for first person prospective for the descriptions too when you finally get to it being a widget instead. And I hope that the one mod that does voice to text and everything for this mod (http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1554-estelles-apropos-utility/) gets updated after this does too, would love to try it out as I think it'd add a nice voice over effect P.S. Came here to read the comments on the mod and make sure it hadn't died, since it's been ages since I saw an update for it, and very happy that you're still tirelessly working on it Well in my defence - the last time SexLab was updated: October 3rd, 2014 last time Apropos was updated: October 21st, 2014.
nutluck Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 I assumed you was waiting on doing another update till the next sexlab version. Since from what I have heard it will have creature gender tags, which will mean you need to make changes to this.
gooser Posted January 25, 2015 Author Posted January 25, 2015 I assumed you was waiting on doing another update till the next sexlab version. Since from what I have heard it will have creature gender tags, which will mean you need to make changes to this. Nope. I am not waiting. I was just drawing a comparison for the previous posters description of "ages" since last update.
nutluck Posted January 25, 2015 Posted January 25, 2015 Ah, well I figured you would wait before any major update, for the reason I listed.
Pantheress Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Could anyone explain, in simple turns, how to add support for a custom race? I'm playing with the Lykaios race and I never get any nouns(cock, vagina, mouth, etc) during sex, for any of the participants. Any help will be appreciated. Just trying once more, in the hope that someone can offer help or advice.
gooser Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 Could anyone explain, in simple turns, how to add support for a custom race? I'm playing with the Lykaios race and I never get any nouns(cock, vagina, mouth, etc) during sex, for any of the participants. Any help will be appreciated. Just trying once more, in the hope that someone can offer help or advice. Probably not race related. Apropos is just responding to the events that SexLab publishes, e.g. Animation Start, etc. Can you turn on Debug logging in Apropos MCM, rerun your scenarios, and attach the Apropos0.log to this as a response.
chajapa Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Could anyone explain, in simple turns, how to add support for a custom race? I'm playing with the Lykaios race and I never get any nouns(cock, vagina, mouth, etc) during sex, for any of the participants. Any help will be appreciated. Just trying once more, in the hope that someone can offer help or advice. I play a Succubus race character and this mod works fine with her. And Ningheim, and Lunari, and I have a follower that is "Eryniel Elf Race". Apropos works with all of them. I have a feeling that your Lykaios might be seen as a beast race and THAT might have some bearing on the issue. Though I'm not sure if or how Apropos checks race. I would think that if your character can participate in sexlab's sex animations, then Apropos should be describing them... so I'm afraid I'm not being of much help.
karlpaws Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Could anyone explain, in simple turns, how to add support for a custom race? I'm playing with the Lykaios race and I never get any nouns(cock, vagina, mouth, etc) during sex, for any of the participants. Any help will be appreciated. Just trying once more, in the hope that someone can offer help or advice. I play a Succubus race character and this mod works fine with her. And Ningheim, and Lunari, and I have a follower that is "Eryniel Elf Race". Apropos works with all of them. I have a feeling that your Lykaios might be seen as a beast race and THAT might have some bearing on the issue. Though I'm not sure if or how Apropos checks race. I would think that if your character can participate in sexlab's sex animations, then Apropos should be describing them... so I'm afraid I'm not being of much help. Throwing in the 2c I've gained while editing the dialogues for my own use, as well as the synonym file. That is probably where your issue lies, if you are getting the lines, just without the fill in variables. Here's a random line: "{PRIMARY} spreads her legs and moans as I slide my {COCK} into her {WTVAGINAL} {PUSSY}.", Do you see " spreads her legs and moans as I slide my into her .", or (assuming maie PC and female NPC) "{Female-NPC-name} spreads her legs and moans as I slide my into her ( dry, unprepared, wet, etc ) .", If the first one, turn on the debugging, load a game, and open the console. You might need to scroll up with Page UP, and look to see if it lists an error reading a file or two.
Pantheress Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 Gaah. False alarm, sorry to have bothered you. >_> I upgraded a couple of non-related mods(defeat, estrus chaurus, non-sexlab animations), started over on a new character and now it seems to be working fine. It boggles. But yes, I was seeing messages such as: "I cry out in pain as jams his inside my .", occasionally including empty brackets such as () and ['''']. On the plus side, I finally figured out how to produce papyrus logs, so now I'll at least be able to provide evidence should it happen in the future...
gooser Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 Generally, when you see messages with missing subjects and objects, adjectives, it is because the internal datastructures of the mod are corrupt. Often they can be reset by selecting REFRESH in Apropos MCM/Message Preferences.
gooser Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 I'm amazed how often people don't utilize papyrus logging and instead expect me to gaze into my crystal ball to solve their problems. Yes, there are several kinds of problems that don't require logs to figure out, but having both papyrus0.log and apropor0.log can help me cut to the chase, if you understand that expression.
jfraser Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 wow, you've put in a ton of work on this since I last tried it. Nice job! I have a request, but I recognize how much work it would involve for you, so I totally understand if you choose not to do this. My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. If you don't want to go through that much work (and again,I totally understand) I'll keep editing the notifications manually. Thanks again for the great mod.
chajapa Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 wow, you've put in a ton of work on this since I last tried it. Nice job! I have a request, but I recognize how much work it would involve for you, so I totally understand if you choose not to do this. My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. If you don't want to go through that much work (and again,I totally understand) I'll keep editing the notifications manually. Thanks again for the great mod. Edit your rape files. Remove references to enjoying being raped. Done. Gooser has this designed such that the user has a TON of control over what's being said.
jfraser Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 wow, you've put in a ton of work on this since I last tried it. Nice job! I have a request, but I recognize how much work it would involve for you, so I totally understand if you choose not to do this. My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. If you don't want to go through that much work (and again,I totally understand) I'll keep editing the notifications manually. Thanks again for the great mod. Edit your rape files. Remove references to enjoying being raped. Done. Gooser has this designed such that the user has a TON of control over what's being said. Yes, that's what i'm doing. But there are a ton of them and it is taking a long time to edit every single scenario (which is why I said I know how much work my request would take). When the mod is updated or when I have to do a full uninstall/reinstall, I'll have to do it again. If it's part of the mod, it only needs done once.
nutluck Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 @jfraser I agree with you on that topic complete. If you do make a drop in file that changes it, would you be kind enough to share it for the rest of us?
jfraser Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 @jfraser I agree with you on that topic complete. If you do make a drop in file that changes it, would you be kind enough to share it for the rest of us? Erm...If I have the author's permission to do so.
karlpaws Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 @jfraser I agree with you on that topic complete. If you do make a drop in file that changes it, would you be kind enough to share it for the rest of us? Erm...If I have the author's permission to do so. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28360-apropos-feature-request-and-descriptions-submission/ There are a couple of posters with full db folders they've done. I grabbed one that has a lot of the Non-LL animations, but haven't looked through all of them, since I did more than a few of my own. I have a second computer that can access my Skyrim folder through shares, and I change/tweak the files on the fly. Not being able to update the UniqueAnimations file on the fly has been one speedbump, but enabling the positions I want to work on, adding them to the file, and starting a new game works. I just haven't gotten that far on it. I had similar issues with the rape scenes, but in my case I'm changing them into just rough sex or dirty talk, istead of loverly speech for the consensual scenes. If I play a female PC, she's just a loose and wild adventurer, willing to kill or fuck anything. The male PC on female lines I'm doing more lover like, since he doesn't lose fights. She just pretends to, using her wiles to get the bandits off guard, before sneaking off and seducing the boss... or just getting them all close and then dropping a frenzy trap spell.
originalwankster Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. What chajapa said about the editing, or you could wait for the next release, as gooser is apparently adding an option to choose between immersive and corny/hentai messages, and I presume the whole "becoming a slut during rape" hentai trope will be part of the latter option.
gooser Posted January 26, 2015 Author Posted January 26, 2015 My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. What chajapa said about the editing, or you could wait for the next release, as gooser is apparently adding an option to choose between "immersive" and "corny/hentai" messages, and I presume the whole "becoming a slut during rape" hentai trope will be part of the latter option. Hey! Some of us like that trope!
AlericoftheNords Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. Going to second this. Using Apropos, I actually went and edited all of those hentai type messages, they were just enormously off putting for me as well.
jfraser Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. What chajapa said about the editing, or you could wait for the next release, as gooser is apparently adding an option to choose between "immersive" and "corny/hentai" messages, and I presume the whole "becoming a slut during rape" hentai trope will be part of the latter option. Hey! Some of us like that trope! Yes, that's why I asked for a toggle. Is he right about my wish being granted on the next update?
jfraser Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 My request is to add an mcm toggle that allows the player to determine what kind of reaction the character will have to being raped. I cannot get past this mod telling me that I am secretly enjoying being raped; it is an inconceivable notion to me. I recognize that other people do enjoy that kind of thing, though, and I certainly recognize their right to their own brand of fetish. thus the request for a toggle. Going to second this. Using Apropos, I actually went and edited all of those hentai type messages, they were just enormously off putting for me as well. In that case, could you upload it?
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