Kendo 2 Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 No, there is no dialogue between Master and Tavish in the 2nd scene at that point. I speak to Master, she tells me what she expects and then my controls are disabled and I am moved to the mark. There is no dialogue exchange at that point, though there was in the first scene. In the second scene (after the facing on the mark) Tavish says his 'Are you ready' line and then the scene stops. And I've alreay tried not touching the mouse and just letting the game and mod mechanics do their thing. Same result. In the 1st scene everything went as planned and the scene played out with all of the dialogue and animations. Question: How many scripted scenes do you have? I have scene three. Question: Is there a point where my toon will actually become Master's slave? (She's anxious to be owned.) Question: Do you intend to do some AI clean up on the NPCs? IMO, they have to many radient AI packages staging sex scenes that interupt dialogue and other packages. I'm not trying to be a dick here. I really like your mod and I know what it is like dealing with this sort of thing. The mod works for you and others but then there is that handful of downloaders who have issues. It sucks when that happens. I fully support your efforts here and I hope what feed back I can give you helps make the mod flow smoothly without having to resort to consoling or reloading saves. As an experienced modder I've been through this and trouble shooting things isn't fun.
Veladarius Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 No, there is no dialogue between Master and Tavish in the 2nd scene at that point. I speak to Master, she tells me what she expects and then my controls are disabled and I am moved to the mark. There is no dialogue exchange at that point, though there was in the first scene. In the second scene (after the facing on the mark) Tavish says his 'Are you ready' line and then the scene stops. And I've alreay tried not touching the mouse and just letting the game and mod mechanics do their thing. Same result. In the 1st scene everything went as planned and the scene played out with all of the dialogue and animations. Question: How many scripted scenes do you have? I have scene three. Question: Is there a point where my toon will actually become Master's slave? (She's anxious to be owned.) Question: Do you intend to do some AI clean up on the NPCs? IMO, they have to many radient AI packages staging sex scenes that interupt dialogue and other packages. I'm not trying to be a dick here. I really like your mod and I know what it is like dealing with this sort of thing. The mod works for you and others but then there is that handful of downloaders who have issues. It sucks when that happens. I fully support your efforts here and I hope what feed back I can give you helps make the mod flow smoothly without having to resort to consoling or reloading saves. As an experienced modder I've been through this and trouble shooting things isn't fun. There is 3 lines of dialogue between Tavish and the Master after your initial dialogue with the Master and when Tavish speaks with you. If you can't see it then the issue is likely with Fus Ro D'oh. But, if the other 2 punishments worked then the problem may be elsewhere. There are 3 punishment scenes and the Assist a customer scene. The 3rd punishment is a general use punishment and has several ways to be triggered (all or part). The player will be made a slave at some point in the future. I don't have any sex scenes in this mod. If you are seeing them they are being started by other mods and are likely causing the issue you are having. All npc's who are not part of a scene should be somewhere away from the player, usually the other end of the store (especially during the scene with Tavish). On occasion if they are near you the only thing you should see during a scene is a greeting from an npc.
big tim Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I missed my Customer Assist on purpose, came back 8 days late and just got the "He will be back on----" This happened twice with a 3rd date added. I showed up on the appointed date and no Tavish, even went in the next day and still no Tavish. I reset the quest and have a new date. Will see what happens tonight. The other thing is I was late with a delivery and got the whipping and devices put on but no cage punishment. I assume that this is rank driven as I am in excellent standing and submissive. Should there not be some more to this than just ending with the devices on in the shop? Maybe spend the night in the basement with the slaves and freed when the cage unlocks in the morning. No need for the master to be in the basement at that time, just go upstairs and talk to her, or leave it as is just being free to move about. The framework of this great mod makes you expect to be severely punished for screwing up. Patiently waiting for and anxiously anticipating the expansion. Thanks I finally got back to the Customer Assist and it worked perfectly after the reset. I don't know why it would not trigger the punishment scenes for missing the date but Tavish appears again. I find that he does not appear until around 3:00 PM or just after. I keep going in and out until he does. Is that the time frame on the set date? I have not run into any other problems except for the npc's being stiff armed and gliding, I just exit and re-enter the shop and they are fine. The last few times in confiscation, the Master has not added anything I did not have in my inventory either. Can't wait for the expansion, waiting patiently but also really anxiously. Thanks
Veladarius Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 I missed my Customer Assist on purpose, came back 8 days late and just got the "He will be back on----" This happened twice with a 3rd date added. I showed up on the appointed date and no Tavish, even went in the next day and still no Tavish. I reset the quest and have a new date. Will see what happens tonight. The other thing is I was late with a delivery and got the whipping and devices put on but no cage punishment. I assume that this is rank driven as I am in excellent standing and submissive. Should there not be some more to this than just ending with the devices on in the shop? Maybe spend the night in the basement with the slaves and freed when the cage unlocks in the morning. No need for the master to be in the basement at that time, just go upstairs and talk to her, or leave it as is just being free to move about. The framework of this great mod makes you expect to be severely punished for screwing up. Patiently waiting for and anxiously anticipating the expansion. Thanks I finally got back to the Customer Assist and it worked perfectly after the reset. I don't know why it would not trigger the punishment scenes for missing the date but Tavish appears again. I find that he does not appear until around 3:00 PM or just after. I keep going in and out until he does. Is that the time frame on the set date? I have not run into any other problems except for the npc's being stiff armed and gliding, I just exit and re-enter the shop and they are fine. The last few times in confiscation, the Master has not added anything I did not have in my inventory either. Can't wait for the expansion, waiting patiently but also really anxiously. Thanks I don't have a specific time for Tavish to appear, just a date. The trigger just outside the store looks for the quest to be at a specific stage and the date to be in the correct range and it will advance the quest, the game itself is deciding on the time of day he shows up. Confiscation should not apply any items you do not have but it only recognizes the standard items from Integration and nothing from the Expansion. The expansion will take some time, there will be a lot in it.
Kendo 2 Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 There are 3 punishment scenes and the Assist a customer scene. The 3rd punishment is a general use punishment and has several ways to be triggered (all or part). Great! Lpoking forward to it. The player will be made a slave at some point in the future. Awesome! I don't have any sex scenes in this mod. If you are seeing them they are being started by other mods and are likely causing the issue you are having. All npc's who are not part of a scene should be somewhere away from the player, usually the other end of the store (especially during the scene with Tavish). On occasion if they are near you the only thing you should see during a scene is a greeting from an npc. ARrHarr! That would be Lover's Comfort that allows for sex between NPC with the correct relationships. THAT is probably causing your NPCs to screw one another and jack with your AI packages. I'm going to disable it and see what happens concerning the NPC-on-NPC sex, I still need to figure out what is going on with the Assist Customer scene that follows the intial one.
luythen Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Hello. I upgraded from an early version (1.6) to the new one but now the shop lacks a lot of standard cuffs and gags. Are they Zaria's Restraint addon or how can I get those leather cuffs etc. back?
Kadmeian Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 So..sqv cdxcustomerassist01 is on stage 10 When I tried to do the CDxAssistCustStartTime command it said ''not found'' Check for CDxAssist, that will give you all the globals for that quest, it will be in there. The value on it should be the same as the date you are supposed to be there. CDxAssist doesn't give me anything as well :/ I fumbled around a bit with the setstage command and set it to 155..at least I got Tavish in the shop now xD Other than that it's just the same old ''Come on the 10th'', When I'm there on the tenth it's ''Come on the 20th''.
Veladarius Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 So..sqv cdxcustomerassist01 is on stage 10 When I tried to do the CDxAssistCustStartTime command it said ''not found'' Check for CDxAssist, that will give you all the globals for that quest, it will be in there. The value on it should be the same as the date you are supposed to be there. CDxAssist doesn't give me anything as well :/ I fumbled around a bit with the setstage command and set it to 155..at least I got Tavish in the shop now xD Other than that it's just the same old ''Come on the 10th'', When I'm there on the tenth it's ''Come on the 20th''. Make sure you are entering help cdxassist in the console, there are about 10 global variables that start with that (page up if necessary).
Veladarius Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 Hello. I upgraded from an early version (1.6) to the new one but now the shop lacks a lot of standard cuffs and gags. Are they Zaria's Restraint addon or how can I get those leather cuffs etc. back? Make sure you have the latest versions of Assets and Integration installed. You can also reset the interior (items and such) with resetinterior captureddreamsshop
Veladarius Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 There are 3 punishment scenes and the Assist a customer scene. The 3rd punishment is a general use punishment and has several ways to be triggered (all or part). Great! Lpoking forward to it. The player will be made a slave at some point in the future. Awesome! I don't have any sex scenes in this mod. If you are seeing them they are being started by other mods and are likely causing the issue you are having. All npc's who are not part of a scene should be somewhere away from the player, usually the other end of the store (especially during the scene with Tavish). On occasion if they are near you the only thing you should see during a scene is a greeting from an npc. ARrHarr! That would be Lover's Comfort that allows for sex between NPC with the correct relationships. THAT is probably causing your NPCs to screw one another and jack with your AI packages. I'm going to disable it and see what happens concerning the NPC-on-NPC sex, I still need to figure out what is going on with the Assist Customer scene that follows the intial one. The issue is likely another mod interfering and trying to make an npc (likely the Master) do something and causing the scene to pause. If the Master is involved in any of those sex scenes it will disrupt the scene and there is a good chance that it will not restart. I use Random Attack and I have to disable it in the shop during the scenes as it does the same thing.
Kadmeian Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Alright s..the questlog says he's coming on the 20th, that's what CDxAssist tells me as well. I set the timescale and sped things a little up to get to the 20th. When I'm in the shop during that time Master tells me he will be ''returning'' on the 1st. If I'm outside of the shop during the fast forward and then come in again at the designated date she is all furious and wants to punish me because I didn't show up. Just listing the ones that actually had values besides 0: CDxAssistCustStartTime=20.00 CDxAssistReturn=1.00 CDxAssistCustStartMonth=9.00 CDxApptMade=1.00
big tim Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 One thing that seems to help is I try to keep my mods down to only the ones I really want. That way I can keep any conflicting issues down. I recently found a post elsewhere about tweaking the Skyrim configuration file and resetting Papyrus "fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=800" from 500. Takes a bit longer to load but the scripts are given bit more time to sort out. I don't even notice the little extra time. It seems so far to help. There may be more things that can be done to help with other issues some are having, I just don't know yet. Tavish always, for me at least is between 3 and 4 PM. Does not matter if I start going in every hour from noon on, always the same which is fine, it works for me. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Kendo 2 Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 @Veladarius Well, I tested this one more time with every framework mod that might conflict disabled and using a save game from before I ever installed any SexLab content. This is what happened: I was able to do the delivery and retrieval quests without issue. (I believe Lover's Comfort was responsible for the conflict I had). I followed the dialogue prompts to insure my toon would be viewed as submissive, etc. Assist the Customer #1 and #2 worked (got through #2 this time). #3 comes and Tavish not saying his lines and my toon getting stuck happened again. This is what is going on according to the console: When I enter the shop the quest stage is 0. When Nessa/Tessa force greets me and say the Master wants to talk to me the quest adavances to stage 10. After talking to Master and her telling me Tavish is there and what she expects to quest is at stage 50. It is at that point that my controls are frozen and Tavish force greets me 'Ge tover here'. According to the console the quest stage is 60 and the entire exchange between Master and Tavish (3 lines worth) is skimped. My toon is moved to the mark and Tavish force greets again with 'Are you ready'. After I respond, according to the console the CDXAssistCustomer01 quest is not running. I'm sad to say this and I don't mean it as a slam against you but I have deleted the mod. There is always that 'one guy' a mod will not work for and I guess it is my turn to suffer that fate. I'm a little upset the mod wouldn't work for me because I really like it. Hopefully when you upadte the mod so that Master really will be 'the Master' I can get it working. I was able to experience all of the scenes and I can see what you intended and you did a fine job of that. I just can't get the goddamned mod to work as intended. And that makes me sad. Thank you for time and for helping me.
Veladarius Posted June 22, 2014 Author Posted June 22, 2014 Alright s..the questlog says he's coming on the 20th, that's what CDxAssist tells me as well. I set the timescale and sped things a little up to get to the 20th. When I'm in the shop during that time Master tells me he will be ''returning'' on the 1st. If I'm outside of the shop during the fast forward and then come in again at the designated date she is all furious and wants to punish me because I didn't show up. Just listing the ones that actually had values besides 0: CDxAssistCustStartTime=20.00 CDxAssistReturn=1.00 CDxAssistCustStartMonth=9.00 CDxApptMade=1.00 Look at the global variables for gameday and gamemonth (those are the actual game date and month) and compare vs what the Start Time and Start Month are now. Since the new appointment is on the 1st the StartTime should be 1 and StartMonth should be 1 higher than what GameMonth is (looks like the current month would be 9 so StartMonth should be 10). If not, move away from the front door outside (by the sign is good), reset the quest in the MCM menu then go back inside. It should trigger the quest to set the date again.
Kadmeian Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Alright s..the questlog says he's coming on the 20th, that's what CDxAssist tells me as well. I set the timescale and sped things a little up to get to the 20th. When I'm in the shop during that time Master tells me he will be ''returning'' on the 1st. If I'm outside of the shop during the fast forward and then come in again at the designated date she is all furious and wants to punish me because I didn't show up. Just listing the ones that actually had values besides 0: CDxAssistCustStartTime=20.00 CDxAssistReturn=1.00 CDxAssistCustStartMonth=9.00 CDxApptMade=1.00 Look at the global variables for gameday and gamemonth (those are the actual game date and month) and compare vs what the Start Time and Start Month are now. Since the new appointment is on the 1st the StartTime should be 1 and StartMonth should be 1 higher than what GameMonth is (looks like the current month would be 9 so StartMonth should be 10). If not, move away from the front door outside (by the sign is good), reset the quest in the MCM menu then go back inside. It should trigger the quest to set the date again. Alright, I'll try that. Thanks for all the patience so far
Kadmeian Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Alright..after I got Master to finally follow through with this quest (she kept running somewhere else) it all worked out.
DocClox Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I'm still having problems with the delivery quest for some reason. Latest update, new toon and the Boss & his cronies just stand there and watch as the package is delivered.
dewayne3478 Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 i recently had to reinstall my mods for skyrim i'm using nmm. i have a issue, when ever i enter the shop i get message that something working (boots\) hdt is not installed? am i missing a mod?
Ashra XIII Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I'm still having problems with the delivery quest for some reason. Latest update, new toon and the Boss & his cronies just stand there and watch as the package is delivered. I too am having this issue. If I attack the boss, he (and his crew) goes hostile, kicks my butt, and takes the package properly, but if I don't initiate, the Boss just keeps trying to force-chat me until I get to the client and make the delivery, at which point he and his cronies run away.
Slorm Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 i recently had to reinstall my mods for skyrim i'm using nmm. i have a issue, when ever i enter the shop i get message that something working (boots\) hdt is not installed? am i missing a mod? Sounds like you're missing the HDT Highheel mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36213/?
big tim Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I was in debt and of coarse wearing the devices, Customer Assist started and the collar did not removed. I figured something would happen as I had been playing a while. Well, I was Skyrimed because I restarted from a recent save and things went perfectly, everything removed as it is supposed to. Freeze ups and things not working properly happen after extended play, especially the more script heavy mods that are installed. At least for me. When restarting from the last save, it all works. There is nothing wrong with your mod, for me anyway, just Skyrim being Skyrim. Hey, who knows, maybe the Hero's of Sovengarde are messing with us. Thanks and maybe we need an exorcist or ghostbusters.
Veladarius Posted June 23, 2014 Author Posted June 23, 2014 I have been working on the grounds of the shop and laying out the Master's and VIP residence. This is the latest version so far: Punishments would be done here: This is still a rough work and there are a number of things to add / fix (or even change) but is a good idea of what I am going for. Some parts around the shop (cages etc) will also be changed / moved.
dewayne3478 Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 i recently had to reinstall my mods for skyrim i'm using nmm. i have a issue, when ever i enter the shop i get message that something working (boots\) hdt is not installed? am i missing a mod? Sounds like you're missing the HDT Highheel mod http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36213/? thank you that fixed it.
crudo Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 That looks good, Veladarius. The grounds are going to be much larger than I imagined.
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