badbat111 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 I missed my Customer Assist on purpose, came back 8 days late and just got the "He will be back on----" This happened twice with a 3rd date added. I showed up on the appointed date and no Tavish, even went in the next day and still no Tavish. I reset the quest and have a new date. Will see what happens tonight. The other thing is I was late with a delivery and got the whipping and devices put on but no cage punishment. I assume that this is rank driven as I am in excellent standing and submissive. Should there not be some more to this than just ending with the devices on in the shop? Maybe spend the night in the basement with the slaves and freed when the cage unlocks in the morning. No need for the master to be in the basement at that time, just go upstairs and talk to her, or leave it as is just being free to move about. The framework of this great mod makes you expect to be severely punished for screwing up. Patiently waiting for and anxiously anticipating the expansion. Thanks the cage only happened to me when i got robbed as in failed to deliver the package to the customer when i was late i ended up being whipped by that noob and put in the cage outside the shop not the cage in the wilderness it was a pain no ending just whipping daily with no being let loose to do the main story line so its best if you play this after you beat the game
Veladarius Posted June 17, 2014 Author Posted June 17, 2014 I have released the new patch, it fixes a few issues, mainly with prices set by the Master for removing items and with forcegreets by the bandits. There are a number of other smaller fixes in it as well that I have made. This is likely to be the last patch and I am starting development of the next major content release.
badbat111 Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 as for the bandits instead of them instantly running to you when you enter a town through fast travel cant you set it so they dont run until they see you that way it gives the players a chance to sneak past them
saintdie Posted June 17, 2014 Posted June 17, 2014 Good to know about the ledger! I saw it there but I had assumed that it was placed there for [future] integration in thieves guild quests and simply dismissed it. Calling it an "account book" or similar may prevent that misunderstanding, unless of course that was intentional.
big tim Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I missed my Customer Assist on purpose, came back 8 days late and just got the "He will be back on----" This happened twice with a 3rd date added. I showed up on the appointed date and no Tavish, even went in the next day and still no Tavish. I reset the quest and have a new date. Will see what happens tonight. The other thing is I was late with a delivery and got the whipping and devices put on but no cage punishment. I assume that this is rank driven as I am in excellent standing and submissive. Should there not be some more to this than just ending with the devices on in the shop? Maybe spend the night in the basement with the slaves and freed when the cage unlocks in the morning. No need for the master to be in the basement at that time, just go upstairs and talk to her, or leave it as is just being free to move about. The framework of this great mod makes you expect to be severely punished for screwing up. Patiently waiting for and anxiously anticipating the expansion. Thanks the cage only happened to me when i got robbed as in failed to deliver the package to the customer when i was late i ended up being whipped by that noob and put in the cage outside the shop not the cage in the wilderness it was a pain no ending just whipping daily with no being let loose to do the main story line so its best if you play this after you beat the game The quest was punishment 01 which is the wilderness cage. It happened to me before but due to my rank and standing it ends without being put into the cage. Just seems disappointing though, if you know what I mean.
fire815816 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Awesome mod! The quests, characters and added devil tools are all impressive! Could it be possible to make the little devil plug serious working on follower/NPCs? Seems now they only function on PC. Since the original DDi soulgem plug seems can only vibrate "softly" in periodical events (without casting a spell), but it is difficult to make a NPC cast spell. However the little devil serious can provide all kinds of vibration strength in periodical events, each with interestingly designed pattern. If they could also work on follower/NPCs, it would be a great experience!
Volutari Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Thanks for clearing that up, and thanks even more for the patch. As was so eloquently stated a few pages back. Your operating on a whole other level.
XErmac Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 great mod . but i find it strange that you didnt add any sex to the mod despite it seems having a high frequent of failure on quests and punishments ?
crudo Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Veladarius, a quick note about a bug/glitch in the current version. On the delivery recovery mission, on my return to the master after recovering the shipment I was attacked by bandits. The package was stolen along with a good deal of other stuff I was carrying. This happened through Death Alternative (daymoyl). I was unable to recover my stuff and thought it was gone. I reported this to the Master and got the normal punishment. Afterwards, while adventuring around I found a merchant that had bought my stuff from the bandit that robbed me. Included in that was the package for the Master. Like I said, I already reported the mission a failure and was punished but once I put the package in my inventory the quest for recovering the delivery reappeared. I took it back to Master and got paid. As I write this out it does make some sense, afterall I did recover the package eventually as I was asked. I guess it just seems odd as I was given the message that I had failed the quest previously. Anyway, this is small stuff and I'm not sure it warrants any investigation. Good luck with the expansion work of the mod.
AimoHauki Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Haven't yet had any kind of success with the assist a customer quest. I *did* upgrade the patch during an assist quest (there was a pending meeting) so that *may* have messed things up but in theory resetting the quest should probably start the quest clean. Yet even after a reset exactly the same things happen. These things are 1) getting stuck and 2) quest not progressing. By forcing sex with certain dialogue options you can get yourself unstuck and leaving the CD shop and coming back does advance the quest once (the 'Are you ready? dialogue) but after that nothing ever happens. Also missing the meeting date has no relevance. The customer will still be waiting there even weeks after the set date. If this is just me I guess I broke it myself with a poorly timed update patch but sharing my experience nevertheless Oh, and if I manage to get myself unstuck after the 'Are you ready?' phase I will get the chain pose every time my char has sex anywhere. It resets to sex animation in the beginning of each sex phase but after maybe 2 seconds it reverts back to chains again Edit: Some typo swatting
Veladarius Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 great mod . but i find it strange that you didnt add any sex to the mod despite it seems having a high frequent of failure on quests and punishments ? Seeing as how everyone but the Master has chastity belts locked on them sex wouldn't be much of a punishment. There will be some added in the future but there will not be a lot of it. Veladarius, a quick note about a bug/glitch in the current version. On the delivery recovery mission, on my return to the master after recovering the shipment I was attacked by bandits. The package was stolen along with a good deal of other stuff I was carrying. This happened through Death Alternative (daymoyl). I was unable to recover my stuff and thought it was gone. I reported this to the Master and got the normal punishment. Afterwards, while adventuring around I found a merchant that had bought my stuff from the bandit that robbed me. Included in that was the package for the Master. Like I said, I already reported the mission a failure and was punished but once I put the package in my inventory the quest for recovering the delivery reappeared. I took it back to Master and got paid. As I write this out it does make some sense, afterall I did recover the package eventually as I was asked. I guess it just seems odd as I was given the message that I had failed the quest previously. Anyway, this is small stuff and I'm not sure it warrants any investigation. Good luck with the expansion work of the mod. The quest currently isn't built to detect the package is missing. I will be rebuilding it so it will detect that it is missing and allow you the chance to get it back. Haven't yet had any kind of success with the assist a customer quest. I *did* upgrade the patch during an assist quest (there was a pending meeting) so that *may* have messed things up but in theory resetting the quest should probably start the quest clean. Yet even after a reset exactly the same things happen. These things are 1) getting stuck and 2) quest not progressing. By forcing sex with certain dialogue options you can get yourself unstuck and leaving the CD shop and coming back does advance the quest once (the 'Are you ready? dialogue) but after that nothing ever happens. Also missing the meeting date has no relevance. The customer will still be waiting there even weeks after the set date. If this is just me I guess I broke it myself with a poorly timed update patch but sharing my experience nevertheless Oh, and if I manage to get myself unstuck after the 'Are you ready?' phase I will get the chain pose every time my char has sex anywhere. It resets to sex animation in the beginning of each sex phase but after maybe 2 seconds it reverts back to chains again Edit: Some typo swatting Something is definitely broken, it sounds like something interrupted the scene and gave you control of your character back. The scene is still trying to run which is why you get the animation issues and why Tavish is not leaving. If resetting the quest using the MCM menu didn't work you may have to disable the mod, make a save then enable it again as I put every way to stop a quest I could find into the reset. Whatever interrupted the scene needs temporarily disabled while running the scenes or it will happen again.
mybrainhurts Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 When I enter the store after hours (like 2 am) I find Master, Nissa, and Tessa in their rooms standing in the "half-T" pose. In addition, Master is rotating counterclockwise around her vertical axis. Sometimes a CTD ensues. I'm not supposed to be in there after hours of course, but still ... (This isn't specific to the latest patch, I just forgot to ask about it before.)
Veladarius Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 When I enter the store after hours (like 2 am) I find Master, Nissa, and Tessa in their rooms standing in the "half-T" pose. In addition, Master is rotating counterclockwise around her vertical axis. Sometimes a CTD ensues. I'm not supposed to be in there after hours of course, but still ... (This isn't specific to the latest patch, I just forgot to ask about it before.) I don't add any animations but it sounds like there is an issue with the sleeping animation. Do you have any mods that affect sleep?
mybrainhurts Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 When I enter the store after hours (like 2 am) I find Master, Nissa, and Tessa in their rooms standing in the "half-T" pose. In addition, Master is rotating counterclockwise around her vertical axis. Sometimes a CTD ensues. I'm not supposed to be in there after hours of course, but still ... (This isn't specific to the latest patch, I just forgot to ask about it before.) I don't add any animations but it sounds like there is an issue with the sleeping animation. Do you have any mods that affect sleep? No, I don't have any mods that could do this. And these are the only NPCs I've seen who do this. The assistant who is in the bedroom to the left (Tessa, I think) will crawl into bed after a few seconds, but the other assistant and Master do not. But if I'm the only one seeing this then it must be something wrong on my end I suppose, I just can't imagine what.
Alva Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 When I started making this mod I had no idea on how to do most anything in this. I knew how to arrange things and make navmeshes but had no clue on scripting or quests or anything else so I have been setting goals for myself and things to try to do. I have tried to do modeling and stuff but have not had much success with it (I can use AutoCAD somewhat and have played a bit with 3ds Max but there is too much I don't know. If there are things you want to do start doing things bit by bit and if you have questions just ask (make sure you are specific, the more you try to do things yourself the more others will be willing to help). Yeah - I'm currently still tinkering with Creation Kit trying to get a quest structure and some placeholder events up and running while doing some dialogue on the side. Once that's done I'm going to start trying to hook the placeholder into other quests and other mods, such as yours and sexlab etc, and then the work will hopefully seem to progress much more. And when that's working, I can start doing what I actually plan on doing
Volutari Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Hmmm, I blazed through a 15 or so flawless quests (some very tense sneaking envolved re deliveries) with a new charater. End goal of seeing this third quest, or at least the penalty for missing it. Doing well has given me such a high (excellent) rating with master that she doesn't even punish properly. (No wilderness caging for quest one was a great touch, very atmospheric, like a warning shot) Its proving very hard too tarnish my previously exceptional reputation. To be eliagable for third quest do I just have to keep screwing up. Or is there a short cut? Pickpocketing Herran say?
Veladarius Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 Hmmm, I blazed through a 15 or so flawless quests (some very tense sneaking envolved re deliveries) with a new charater. End goal of seeing this third quest, or at least the penalty for missing it. Doing well has given me such a high (excellent) rating with master that she doesn't even punish properly. (No wilderness caging for quest one was a great touch, very atmospheric, like a warning shot) Its proving very hard too tarnish my previously exceptional reputation. To be eliagable for third quest do I just have to keep screwing up. Or is there a short cut? Pickpocketing Herran say? If you go through the scene with Tavish and say you don't want any of the items that will trigger the other punishment. Currently the only ways to see the parts with the Assistants or Smiths is to set the rank for them to less than 5 via the console then talk to them.
dje34 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 So, after some testing on v2.75, as I don't know if these bugs are already fixed in v2.76 I will talk about them : The belts in the locker of the main floor of CD shop always pop out of the locker when my PC is near them. I just have to 'push them' with my PC feet down the stairs to 'get them for free' and not be seen. The slaves chained on the right of the entrance of CD shop go sleeping on nights and keep their chains on, without changing animation so they 'walk' with these chains on and in submissive positions; and they keep changing submissive animation after talking to them. Anyway, this is a good job so far so thanks and don't give up ! One question, though, do I need to keep v2.75 patch and overwrite with v2.76 or do I need to uninstall v2.75 patch and install v2.76 ?
Veladarius Posted June 18, 2014 Author Posted June 18, 2014 So, after some testing on v2.75, as I don't know if these bugs are already fixed in v2.76 I will talk about them : The belts in the locker of the main floor of CD shop always pop out of the locker when my PC is near them. I just have to 'push them' with my PC feet down the stairs to 'get them for free' and not be seen. The slaves chained on the right of the entrance of CD shop go sleeping on nights and keep their chains on, without changing animation so they 'walk' with these chains on and in submissive positions; and they keep changing submissive animation after talking to them. Anyway, this is a good job so far so thanks and don't give up ! One question, though, do I need to keep v2.75 patch and overwrite with v2.76 or do I need to uninstall v2.75 patch and install v2.76 ? The belts and the cases are hitting each other so the physics does odd things. I plan on making static versions of the items in the cases so that won't happen (can't steal them either). The Slaves don't always want to reset from the animation, it has been a pain to get them to do it properly. You can either install over 2.75 and overwrite it or remove 2.75 then install 2.76, either way doesn't matter.
badbat111 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 So, after some testing on v2.75, as I don't know if these bugs are already fixed in v2.76 I will talk about them : The belts in the locker of the main floor of CD shop always pop out of the locker when my PC is near them. I just have to 'push them' with my PC feet down the stairs to 'get them for free' and not be seen. The slaves chained on the right of the entrance of CD shop go sleeping on nights and keep their chains on, without changing animation so they 'walk' with these chains on and in submissive positions; and they keep changing submissive animation after talking to them. Anyway, this is a good job so far so thanks and don't give up ! One question, though, do I need to keep v2.75 patch and overwrite with v2.76 or do I need to uninstall v2.75 patch and install v2.76 ? The belts and the cases are hitting each other so the physics does odd things. I plan on making static versions of the items in the cases so that won't happen (can't steal them either). The Slaves don't always want to reset from the animation, it has been a pain to get them to do it properly. You can either install over 2.75 and overwrite it or remove 2.75 then install 2.76, either way doesn't matter. if you want the slaves to reset instead of making the bondage poses wearable make the objects static like furnature form them to go to instead of wearing 24/7
Veladarius Posted June 19, 2014 Author Posted June 19, 2014 So, after some testing on v2.75, as I don't know if these bugs are already fixed in v2.76 I will talk about them : The belts in the locker of the main floor of CD shop always pop out of the locker when my PC is near them. I just have to 'push them' with my PC feet down the stairs to 'get them for free' and not be seen. The slaves chained on the right of the entrance of CD shop go sleeping on nights and keep their chains on, without changing animation so they 'walk' with these chains on and in submissive positions; and they keep changing submissive animation after talking to them. Anyway, this is a good job so far so thanks and don't give up ! One question, though, do I need to keep v2.75 patch and overwrite with v2.76 or do I need to uninstall v2.75 patch and install v2.76 ? The belts and the cases are hitting each other so the physics does odd things. I plan on making static versions of the items in the cases so that won't happen (can't steal them either). The Slaves don't always want to reset from the animation, it has been a pain to get them to do it properly. You can either install over 2.75 and overwrite it or remove 2.75 then install 2.76, either way doesn't matter. if you want the slaves to reset instead of making the bondage poses wearable make the objects static like furnature form them to go to instead of wearing 24/7 I had added the poses to the AI package for while they are in their display positions and it picks one from several at random, unfortunately when it is done it does not release them from it.
Volutari Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Hmmm, I blazed through a 15 or so flawless quests (some very tense sneaking envolved re deliveries) with a new charater. End goal of seeing this third quest, or at least the penalty for missing it. Doing well has given me such a high (excellent) rating with master that she doesn't even punish properly. (No wilderness caging for quest one was a great touch, very atmospheric, like a warning shot) Its proving very hard too tarnish my previously exceptional reputation. To be eliagable for third quest do I just have to keep screwing up. Or is there a short cut? Pickpocketing Herran say? If you go through the scene with Tavish and say you don't want any of the items that will trigger the other punishment. Currently the only ways to see the parts with the Assistants or Smiths is to set the rank for them to less than 5 via the console then talk to them. Aha!, Appologies, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant how do I become elligable for third quest entirely. From the ranking nessacities I'ld assumed people liked me to much for it to start, but then I could totally be wrong in my assumptions, how does third quest start if I might ask? A courier might not have caught up with me or something.
roykupzz12 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Hmmm, I blazed through a 15 or so flawless quests (some very tense sneaking envolved re deliveries) with a new charater. End goal of seeing this third quest, or at least the penalty for missing it. Doing well has given me such a high (excellent) rating with master that she doesn't even punish properly. (No wilderness caging for quest one was a great touch, very atmospheric, like a warning shot) Its proving very hard too tarnish my previously exceptional reputation. To be eliagable for third quest do I just have to keep screwing up. Or is there a short cut? Pickpocketing Herran say? If you go through the scene with Tavish and say you don't want any of the items that will trigger the other punishment. Currently the only ways to see the parts with the Assistants or Smiths is to set the rank for them to less than 5 via the console then talk to them. Aha!, Appologies, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant how do I become elligable for third quest entirely. From the ranking nessacities I'ld assumed people liked me to much for it to start, but then I could totally be wrong in my assumptions, how does third quest start if I might ask? A courier might not have caught up with me or something. you need two things: Have a positive rating with Master. (I'm not sure if "Excellent" is required or if "Good" is enough, aim for "Excellent" to be sure) AND Be "Submissive". Whenever you get the option "Was there something you wanted", pick responses that are submissive (or dominant when if that's what you want). Be careful though, Master will sometimes ask question that do not affect sub/dom tendencies, but instead ask questions that affect your rating with her (average, good, excellent), picking pertinent responses in these questions will worsen your rating and may even trigger a punishment if it goes low enough. To avoid the demerit and/or punishment simply choose a more respectful response, I don't think it makes you seem submissive when you do this so it won't hurt you if you're trying to be Dominant. @Veladrius If anything I have said is wrong (regarding the workings of Master's questions etc.), please correct me)
princessofdarkness Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I have a small problem. I installed the mod and the store is there and everything, but the MCM menu doesn't show up, nothing is in the display cases, and I can't start any quests. Is there something I missed or am not seeing?
Volutari Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Hmmm, I blazed through a 15 or so flawless quests (some very tense sneaking envolved re deliveries) with a new charater. End goal of seeing this third quest, or at least the penalty for missing it. Doing well has given me such a high (excellent) rating with master that she doesn't even punish properly. (No wilderness caging for quest one was a great touch, very atmospheric, like a warning shot) Its proving very hard too tarnish my previously exceptional reputation. To be eliagable for third quest do I just have to keep screwing up. Or is there a short cut? Pickpocketing Herran say? If you go through the scene with Tavish and say you don't want any of the items that will trigger the other punishment. Currently the only ways to see the parts with the Assistants or Smiths is to set the rank for them to less than 5 via the console then talk to them. Aha!, Appologies, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant how do I become elligable for third quest entirely. From the ranking nessacities I'ld assumed people liked me to much for it to start, but then I could totally be wrong in my assumptions, how does third quest start if I might ask? A courier might not have caught up with me or something. you need two things: Have a positive rating with Master. (I'm not sure if "Excellent" is required or if "Good" is enough, aim for "Excellent" to be sure) AND Be "Submissive". Whenever you get the option "Was there something you wanted", pick responses that are submissive (or dominant when if that's what you want). Be careful though, Master will sometimes ask question that do not affect sub/dom tendencies, but instead ask questions that affect your rating with her (average, good, excellent), picking pertinent responses in these questions will worsen your rating and may even trigger a punishment if it goes low enough. To avoid the demerit and/or punishment simply choose a more respectful response, I don't think it makes you seem submissive when you do this so it won't hurt you if you're trying to be Dominant. @Veladrius If anything I have said is wrong (regarding the workings of Master's questions etc.), please correct me) Aha!, I new I was missing a something subtle and that it would be my own limitations entirely Many thanks
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