Human Cattle Beta Version (WIP)

[lord mado]

As a curious fact, I just realized that if you manage to give the order to any NPC like super mutants, dogs, synths, etc. to get on the table so you can inject them with the hucow serum, they can turn into Bulls to be enjoyed by the hucow, I don't know if this is a bug but I hope they never fix it xD

 

[asasdi]

Hello , i have a little problem with hucows not using your mod body morphs , i'm using fusion girl with x-sensuous body texture , builded my bodies in body slide with morph box chek on , so i dont know why their bodies dont change , and im using pre update fallout (1.10.163) 

[GrimGrim31]

4 hours ago, lord mado said:

As a curious fact, I just realized that if you manage to give the order to any NPC like super mutants, dogs, synths, etc. to get on the table so you can inject them with the hucow serum, they can turn into Bulls to be enjoyed by the hucow, I don't know if this is a bug but I hope they never fix it xD

 

 

I have no plans to change that.  It wasn't intended as a feature but there is no real reason to stop it from happening. 

 

 

[GrimGrim31]

4 hours ago, asasdi said:

Hello , i have a little problem with hucows not using your mod body morphs , i'm using fusion girl with x-sensuous body texture , builded my bodies in body slide with morph box chek on , so i dont know why their bodies dont change , and im using pre update fallout (1.10.163) 

 

Hello, do you have the MCM option turned on to use this mod's body morphs?  Human Cattle supports Fusion Girl and CBBE so the morphs should work if the MCM option is turned on unless your version of Fusion Girl uses different slider names.

[LarryJD8822]

19 hours ago, GrimGrim31 said:

 

To reset a hucow or settler or any other actor that appears to have a persistent name (like a base game provisioner):

 

First, use the console command   setname ""

 

That resets their name.  It will say that the name wasn't changed but then:

 

Use the console command again   setname "Whatever name"  and this time the name will be your new name.

 

now I have learned something again, thanks for the explanation  --and it works I can finally give my children their own names🤩

 

19 hours ago, GrimGrim31 said:

Dialogue might be more difficult.  Once an actor starts using hucow voicetypes, I haven't found a consistent method to get them to use other voicetypes.

 

what I meant is that in this particular case after cure on the table, the NPC stubbornly stands in one place, oh wait, she only stood there because she was still assigned to the HuCow bed, when I assigned her a normal bed the AI was ok again, the problem with the dialogue was that I could talk to her, but she only said "what", the option to swap like with other cured females wasn't there, the player didn't say "let's swap things" either

 

18 hours ago, GrimGrim31 said:

I could add a command to remove all morphs when an actor is cured but that would remove pregnancy morphs.

 

no dont do that --- about the bodymorphs, that was my own fault, I made Kali and Monique a different body and totally forgot about it, I just noticed when I took the picture below

 

18 hours ago, GrimGrim31 said:

The Hucow Clone (all to hucow) and the Hucow Clone (allow bulls) syringes use the same script functions to add body morphs.  Neither should add the milky boob overlay but they start the timer for lactation and the milky boob overlay will appear later when the cow is ready to milk.

 

I cloned the 3 dunmores with the (allow bull)  serum , and built my first stable with your gate, the gate works well so far, but as soon as a stupid NPC opens it or stays in the gate the HUCows run away (lol like in real life), and built other things, slept for 8 hours, built a bit more, and then went to the Operators HQ, cloned all male NPCs with the (all to hucow) to hucows, and built even more, the ones with the (all to hucow) cloned serum have the milk overlay, the two with the (allow bulls) cloned serum don't have the overlay, not even 4 ingame days later, never mind I'll clone them again

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

Edited September 10, 2024 by LarryJD8822

[MrCruelJohn]

Just sat down and worked through a settlement - really appreciate your work on this.

 

I also liked the supermutants being bulls as well.

 

I do have a question - do you forsee the bulls just forcing themselves on the player if the player is a hucow?  Maybe with a time constraint for the player to use the baton and beat the bull back?

I have not used the baton - seems like I need a reason to beat the bull or cow?

 

Thanks again for your work.

John

[Dudemer]

Oh I've bin waiting to tell you so I don't catch you just after a update to this mod that I added keywords to all my MSFD Morph's bodies. This is so that mods like yours will have a way of telling if someone a Cow Morph or a DeathClaw Morph. I had taken a little Hiatus, And now probably I'm going to make a long form post after I get some work done on MSFD next assets. one of which will most likely interest you, That being a Milker. I'll work on that item first then upload a test mod version on both this thread and MSFD's thread.

 

I hope you all have a Great Day My Dudes.

 

[GrimGrim31]

8 hours ago, MrCruelJohn said:

Just sat down and worked through a settlement - really appreciate your work on this.

 

I also liked the supermutants being bulls as well.

 

I do have a question - do you forsee the bulls just forcing themselves on the player if the player is a hucow?  Maybe with a time constraint for the player to use the baton and beat the bull back?

I have not used the baton - seems like I need a reason to beat the bull or cow?

 

Thanks again for your work.

John

 

I will eventually add ways for the NPCs, including bulls, to interact more directly with a hucow player.  I have tested much of this before and found that it interfered with a lot of player actions in the settlement and occasionally resulted in the player having to reload the last save because menus were open that could not be closed.  This usually happens when the player is in the build menu or a workbench menu and an NPC started a sex scene with the player hucow.  I will try to keep that from happening and also allow an MCM option to turn off random player sex with NPCs so that you can keep it turned off while working on settlement building or crafting.

 

 

[GrimGrim31]

7 hours ago, Dudemer said:

Oh I've bin waiting to tell you so I don't catch you just after a update to this mod that I added keywords to all my MSFD Morph's bodies. This is so that mods like yours will have a way of telling if someone a Cow Morph or a DeathClaw Morph. I had taken a little Hiatus, And now probably I'm going to make a long form post after I get some work done on MSFD next assets. one of which will most likely interest you, That being a Milker. I'll work on that item first then upload a test mod version on both this thread and MSFD's thread.

 

I hope you all have a Great Day My Dudes.

 

 

Thank you.  Keywords like that will be very helpful.

 

 

[GrimGrim31]

11 hours ago, LarryJD8822 said:

what I meant is that in this particular case after cure on the table, the NPC stubbornly stands in one place, oh wait, she only stood there because she was still assigned to the HuCow bed, when I assigned her a normal bed the AI was ok again, the problem with the dialogue was that I could talk to her, but she only said "what", the option to swap like with other cured females wasn't there, the player didn't say "let's swap things" either

 

 

...the ones with the (all to hucow) cloned serum have the milk overlay, the two with the (allow bulls) cloned serum don't have the overlay, not even 4 ingame days later ...

 

 

I will take a look at these things tomorrow.

 

 

[keymaster1965]

interesting weirdness

[GrimGrim31]

10 hours ago, keymaster1965 said:

interesting weirdness

 

How did you get that to happen?  I've seen a lot of weird things in FO4 but that is a new one for me.

 

[keymaster1965]

47 minutes ago, GrimGrim31 said:

 

How did you get that to happen?  I've seen a lot of weird things in FO4 but that is a new one for me.

 

dont know, was just playing and happened to find them

[JB.]

1 hour ago, GrimGrim31 said:

 

How did you get that to happen?  I've seen a lot of weird things in FO4 but that is a new one for me.

 

The same thing was reported to me and I didn't even know where to start looking. 

 

It's a new mod for next gen users called X-Cell that solves a new situation. Basically, every mod in existence that adds new characters causes stuttering. I don't know if Bethesda is going to put it back to the way it was before or it stays like this forever. 

 

This new mod solves that, but you have to regenerate the faces of your NPCs in the Creation Kit and pack them 😵‍💫

 

Worth saying, I decided not to do it because I'm not moving to next gen yet. Although a user did it for me and I put it as an optional file for XCell users. 

 

Edit: From what I'm reading, you can flag your NPC as "IsChargen Face" to fix this too. 

Edited September 11, 2024 by JB.

[izzyknows]

23 minutes ago, JB. said:

you can flag your NPC as "IsChargen Face" to fix this too. 

That is correct.

The bad thing about x-cell is if you patch all your mods that add/change NPC's, you'll quickly have over a TB of extra data. Yet another reason to not update the game.

For folks staying on the old version the facegen part is really pointless. But to many folks don't understand and think it's the best thing since sliced bread. Much like PRP.

Someone made it for my Commonwealth Captives patch and it's 3Gb. 🙄

 

[GrimGrim31]

Wow, this isn't encouraging me to switch to NG.

 

 

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, GrimGrim31 said:

Wow, this isn't encouraging me to switch to NG.

 

 

Bugthesda really screwed the pooch like never before on that garbage.

If you noticed, in the past when they would push an update, the community would pretty quickly start fixing the bugs. With the NG update, the hot files were mods to downgrade the game & stop it from updating. The DEI hires found new ways to break the game to the point even the community didn't want to fix it.

They must have gotten fired (fingers crossed) as they've never released a new update to fix the all the broken garbage.

[Omartwo]

hey what am I supposed to do after meeting the ghoul at parsons creamery

[Mr Zombie Brain]

@GrimGrim31 @JB. there is an INI for XCell file that let u disable this FaceGen things 

 

Go to (Data > F4SE > Plugins) look for "x-cell.ini" the setting "facegen=true" change it to false "facegen=false" save done no need to generate FaceGen ESP and u can use the rest of XCell features and skip this NG fix

 

 

Note this for Users who play on Pre-NG but use XCell for NG dont know cuz it fix a problem caused by Todd 

Edited September 11, 2024 by Mr Zombie Brain

[Mr Zombie Brain]

34 minutes ago, Omartwo said:

hey what am I supposed to do after meeting the ghoul at parsons creamery

look for trailer its described where to find it in the terminal cant remember where exactly 

[izzyknows]

45 minutes ago, Omartwo said:

hey what am I supposed to do after meeting the ghoul at parsons creamery

Looking at the terminal, turn 180 and the trailer is over the hill.

[GrimGrim31]

1 hour ago, Omartwo said:

hey what am I supposed to do after meeting the ghoul at parsons creamery

 

Find Doctor Burr.  In his last terminal log, he said that he was heading Northwest from the Creamery to find a safer place to stay.

 

The ghoul isn't going to help you.  He is a bit selfish.

 

 

 

Edited September 11, 2024 by GrimGrim31

[LarryJD8822]

I cloned Mags Black to a HuCow, my problem is, there is no quest progress "Open Season - Hunt Down and Kill Mags Black"

If I want her as a HuCow now, I have to kill her, then clone her with the Portable Cloning Device mod, then I have to rename her from Settler to Mags Black and then I can use the Hucow serum

 

I wonder if this is the case with other quest NPCs, such as Kendra, Kendra is also a problem with Human Resources, if you make her a slave with Human Resources there is no quest progress.

Edited September 12, 2024 by LarryJD8822

[GrimGrim31]

10 hours ago, LarryJD8822 said:

I cloned Mags Black to a HuCow, my problem is, there is no quest progress "Open Season - Hunt Down and Kill Mags Black"

If I want her as a HuCow now, I have to kill her, then clone her with the Portable Cloning Device mod, then I have to rename her from Settler to Mags Black and then I can use the Hucow serum

 

I wonder if this is the case with other quest NPCs, such as Kendra, Kendra is also a problem with Human Resources, if you make her a slave with Human Resources there is no quest progress.

 

The clone serum syringes should not be used on Unique NPCs that are needed for quests because they remove the original NPC and replace them with a cloned version.  This breaks your quest because it has condition checks for the original NPC.  Human Resources does the same thing.  I learned how to clone NPCs from Human Resources.  Then I took it two steps further by also changing genders and adding a lot of new things to the clones.

 

I have thought of a way that would store the original NPCs and swap them back into the game for the hucow clone when you cure them but that would involve a lot of changes to Human Cattle and most players rarely change cows back into normal NPCs.  I have also been thinking about a total overhaul of my RefCollectionAliases to prevent actors from occasionally having non-voiced dialogue and make dialogue changes from settler to hucow and back again easier.  It works pretty well now except for unique NPCs that are converted with the regular hucow serum.  But these kinds of changes would take a week or two of work and I am reluctant to spend much time on them.

 

 

 

 

[valcon767]

16 hours ago, LarryJD8822 said:

I cloned Mags Black to a HuCow, my problem is, there is no quest progress "Open Season - Hunt Down and Kill Mags Black"

If I want her as a HuCow now, I have to kill her, then clone her with the Portable Cloning Device mod, then I have to rename her from Settler to Mags Black and then I can use the Hucow serum

 

I wonder if this is the case with other quest NPCs, such as Kendra, Kendra is also a problem with Human Resources, if you make her a slave with Human Resources there is no quest progress.

 

sigh ... let me try posting this again (for some reason my post did not show on the topic)

 

as GrimGrem31 said it removes the original and replaces them with a cloned version so the clone does not have the original attached

stuff (scripts, quests, and possibly voicetype).  Just Business, Human Resources, and Human Cattle (clone serum) all do this.

 

when i want to have "control" (make a slave/settler/hucow) of a unique NPC that has quests or other things i do not want to lose, what

i do is make a clone (portable cloning device is great), then rename the clone to the original name, do what i want to the clone, but also

put a synth component into the original's inventory (hey the Institute saw the original was missing and sent in a synth to replace them).

and if the original and the clone meet it fits the lore anyway (random encounter of Art and Art where one is original and the other a synth).