Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

volfin · January 28, 2014

check your load order for mods highlighted red in Wrye Bash. they still need the ESP. You need to disable those until they are updated to use the ESM.

Captured Dream shop has been updated already, so be sure to install that update. I assume Aelie will be updating Submit Belt soon.

(if you really don't want to wait, you can do the same procedure for updating the savegame on the mods as well, it's just telling the mod where to look for the FORMIDs)

*Groovtama* · January 28, 2014

1. Rename Integration to esp/or use the old 2.6.5 esp of integration

2. Load the conflicting plugin in TES5Edit, go into the Master List of the conflicting plugin

3. change the esp of integration to esm

4. Save

5. Rename Integration back to esm/or switch to the new 2.6.6 version

Works because it is just the esp converted to esm the referenced formIDs in the plugins are still in the same position and are still referenced correctly afterwards if it doesn't work you did not follow correctly

*Veladarius* · January 28, 2014

I only asked because they made such a big fuss about upgrading from ESP to ESM.

But after doing it, I see it was much ado about nothing. The upgrade works fine with no flaws or ill effects whatsoever. I tried every restraint, ran them all through their paces, and everything works, with no script errors or problems.

So Perhaps they should tone down the "OMG it's gonna break!" stuff a bit.

So long as you follow the instructions the chances for things breaking is smaller but from what I saw things still broke for me. The main reason that we are being somewhat alarmist is if you don't follow the instructions everything Devious Devices related will break. Since we don't know what all will be effected by updating a save we don't recommend it.

xboronx · January 28, 2014

Ring gags now permit eating food / drink / potions.

Do they also allow oral sex?

And is there or do you plan on scripting a lockable ring gag? Something like that:

http://www.amazon.de/Bondage-NS-Knebel-Abfluss-Knebel-Mund%C3%B6ffnungsknebel-NS/dp/B00E40OEJK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_35

Would be very cool for forced prostitution, this way the customer could lock the gag afterwards forcing you to swallow or play cruel feeding/drinking games with you.

In the link above it isn't a real ring gag i think, but you know if you search something you usally don't find it, but i remember a very nice japanese porn movie involving interesting play with such a lockable ring gag

svartur · January 29, 2014

Ring gags now permit eating food / drink / potions.

Do they also allow oral sex?

And is there or do you plan on scripting a lockable ring gag? Something like that:

http://www.amazon.de/Bondage-NS-Knebel-Abfluss-Knebel-Mund%C3%B6ffnungsknebel-NS/dp/B00E40OEJK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_35

Would be very cool for forced prostitution, this way the customer could lock the gag afterwards forcing you to swallow or play cruel feeding/drinking games with you.

In the link above it isn't a real ring gag i think, but you know if you search something you usally don't find it, but i remember a very nice japanese porn movie involving interesting play with such a lockable ring gag

Last I knew the ring gags did allow oral. Also what you have there would be the pannel gag already in place as well, haven't played around with what is scripted for it yet or not, I usually just end up using the ring gags to shut up noisy followers.

judge0 · January 29, 2014

Is the patch for SD Plus updated for the esm yet?

*Min* · January 29, 2014

Hey,I just tested this mod a few days and found it amazing.Normally I'm not a fan of leather,gags and that kind of stuff but I liked it in this mod.

Now,some things I noticed during gameplay in the 2.6.5

I started the quest but the key was missing from the table,I even reloaded the save but still not there.After closing the game and restarted it again worked,now it was there...

Sounds like you have something else editing the Arcaneum.

Reading the book that shows how to craft the items don't worked to me unless I readed from inventory and not in the bookshelf.

Odd, the Event that triggers learning how to craft items is OnRead(). Shouldn't matter where it's read from, I wouldn't think.

Having 2 chastity belt same type in inventory with one of them equipped caused a bug to me when I was sended to prison.After serving my time and sleeping in the bed the game tried to put me the belt again and the message about not being able to wear multiple belts pop up and opened the menu like if I clicked in the belt in inventory.I choosed carry on and noticed that I was able to drop all chastity belts but it was like I had another one (invisible for menu but visible in character) still equipped.I was unable to remove it until I did the removeallitems command.

Just tried, can't replicate this issue. Are you using the Prison Overhaul? Reproduce the issue, and upload a copy of your Papyrus.0.log.

Also tried to give soulgem plugs to my follower with a chastity belt.All seemed ok,everytime I gave her an item the message showed up correctly,first the plugs then the belt and finally the armbinder.

Then I tried the devious spell but nothing worked,I checked and saw that she didn't equipped the plugs.I used the equipitem command and it worked but no response from her to the spell.I started to think that she was frigid but checked in the console and found another version of the soulgem plugs called enchanted and tried it.Removed the normal soul plugs and forced her to wear the enchanted version and this fixed it for me.

The Soulgem Plugs are still a bit finicky with NPCs. Tis something I'm working on.

....If you are still here I have a couple of doubts.

Can't found how to trigger the EffectElectroShock.

None of the plugs I've created as of this time actually use the effect. It was custom designed for Veladarius to use in Captured Dreams.

And can't make npcs hear the vibrator sound no matter what I try.

The vibrator does generate detection events when activating. Nearby non-hostile NPC's won't react to it (Though, that's a good idea for a future feature, for sure).

I really liked all the levels of arousal,the moans and the thunderous release,I though she was about to die of pleasure XD.A lot of details in this mod.

Thank you.

Glad you enjoyed the mod, thanks for the feedback.

ScreamingSquid218 · January 29, 2014

I think i did something wrong. i installed and updated all the mods that use DD. but when i choose the hardest difficulty in Alternate start Deviant life. i only get the face mask, gag, harness, boots and the plugs. but the chasity belt, bra and arm binder dont appear. can someone please help?

Post a copy of your Papyrus.0.log, and I'll take a look.

Got it, i started a new file and it worked just fine. guess thats one of the problems why not to update a mod in the middle of a save

*Min* · January 29, 2014

Cant start without the esp tried everything i get ctd when i start okay sry found it was Angrims Apprentice,Alternate Start a Deviant Life and submit + devious devices maybe this help someone

Given the communities growing interest in developing mods that use the devices added by this mod, v2.6.6 is now an ESM, rather than an ESP. What this means for you, the user, is that this version can't be safely updated within the same game. Furthermore, this update requires that all mods that are dependent upon this one (All of the recommended mods) release an updated version as well. This should happen within the day, be patient.

Great to see an update, Min! The change to an ESM makes a great deal of sense, as this mod has become a framework in its own right, and such a change definitely will improve other modder's work!

Cant start without the esp tried everything i get ctd when i start

Either your load order is incorrect or you are using another DD mod that has not been updated to account for the change to an ESM, yet.

Has anyone ever seen a CTD at start/menu that wasn't the user's error? I haven't.

Yeah. I've been putting this off for a while, though it was definitely something that should be done.

Ring gags now permit eating food / drink / potions.

Do they also allow oral sex?

And is there or do you plan on scripting a lockable ring gag? Something like that:

http://www.amazon.de/Bondage-NS-Knebel-Abfluss-Knebel-Mund%C3%B6ffnungsknebel-NS/dp/B00E40OEJK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_k_35

Would be very cool for forced prostitution, this way the customer could lock the gag afterwards forcing you to swallow or play cruel feeding/drinking games with you.

In the link above it isn't a real ring gag i think, but you know if you search something you usally don't find it, but i remember a very nice japanese porn movie involving interesting play with such a lockable ring gag

They do indeed permit Oral sex. There's quite a bit of room for extending the Panel gag. Something to be done in the future.

Is the patch for SD Plus updated for the esm yet?

It doesn't need to be. It just fixes animation incompatibilities between the two mod's bindings.

*Min* · January 29, 2014

I think i did something wrong. i installed and updated all the mods that use DD. but when i choose the hardest difficulty in Alternate start Deviant life. i only get the face mask, gag, harness, boots and the plugs. but the chasity belt, bra and arm binder dont appear. can someone please help?

Post a copy of your Papyrus.0.log, and I'll take a look.

Skull Tyrant · January 29, 2014

i am only using 1 mod that uses this and has already been updated (devious devices regulations). what would be the best way to update this and that?

xboronx · January 29, 2014

They do indeed permit Oral sex. There's quite a bit of room for extending the Panel gag. Something to be done in the future.

Looking forward to it .

I always forgot for a ask, but i have one little issue since the first version: How do you make the sounds louder? I have turned them to max in the MCM but especially the vibrating sounds are very silent. The moans volume is ok but could also be a little louder, normal Skyrim sounds or other Sexlab sounds are already quite loud.

The sounds are well picked imho, some sound very good. I'm always a bit too curious, so did you get them from other games or from porn movies or from a completely different source?

judge0 · January 29, 2014

Is the patch for SD Plus updated for the esm yet?

It doesn't need to be. It just fixes animation incompatibilities between the two mod's bindings.

Thanks, will try it out now.

EDIT: Well it works quite well.

As a matter of fact the entire family of Devious Device mods are working well together (last go-round I ended up dropping Regulations, Captured Dreams and FTM for stability).

The new effects while belted are damned interesting. I played Live a Deviant Life on the second highest level and when I got free, went to the college and enrolled while belted.

Do you know the part when Tolfdir has you try a ward spell? Hannah got hit with his spell spell because she dropped to her knees from the plugs. Then it took about 10 minutes to gather the 4 magic items in Saarthal. Needless to say combat is quite a challenge.

This all might be because of the two chastity belts she is wearing (one from LADL, and one from getting submitted by the first group of bandits she encountered).

A message came up saying something about multiple belts, but shows two equipped in inventory.

So the effects play, player control is lost, effects ease, control resumes and immediately the effects from the second belt kick in and player controls are again disabled.

Makes for some interesting situations. :shy:

*Min* · January 29, 2014

i am only using 1 mod that uses this and has already been updated (devious devices regulations). what would be the best way to update this and that?

The supported method of using 2.6.6 is to start a new game. Veladarius posted a guide on the previous page for updating an existing save game, though.

They do indeed permit Oral sex. There's quite a bit of room for extending the Panel gag. Something to be done in the future.

Looking forward to it .

I always forgot for a ask, but i have one little issue since the first version: How do you make the sounds louder? I have turned them to max in the MCM but especially the vibrating sounds are very silent. The moans volume is ok but could also be a little louder, normal Skyrim sounds or other Sexlab sounds are already quite loud.

The sounds are well picked imho, some sound very good. I'm always a bit too curious, so did you get them from other games or from porn movies or from a completely different source?

I searched various online free sound repositories (Freesound.org, etc) for clips, and edited them to normalize volume levels / remove clicks / etc. You could edit the sound files via Wavegain (or any other tool) to increase volume, though it's already about as loud as I could make it without distortion. The vibrating sounds are quite loud for me at 100%, though.

Skull Tyrant · January 29, 2014

i am only using 1 mod that uses this and has already been updated (devious devices regulations). what would be the best way to update this and that?

The supported method of using 2.6.6 is to start a new game. Veladarius posted a guide on the previous page for updating an existing save game, though.

yea that really doesnt help since i dont use Wrye Bash, i use NMM or manually install.

Deamionzero · January 29, 2014

One quick qestion about updating: Should we also update to the newest Aroused for this? Or is that part not vitally important?

Thanks again Min, Veladrius and Aelie! You work continues to be wonderfully impressive!

*Min* · January 29, 2014

i am only using 1 mod that uses this and has already been updated (devious devices regulations). what would be the best way to update this and that?

The supported method of using 2.6.6 is to start a new game. Veladarius posted a guide on the previous page for updating an existing save game, though.

yea that really doesnt help since i dont use Wrye Bash, i use NMM or manually install.

You're going to have to either stick with 2.6.5, or start a new save, then. See http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-01282014/?p=661395 for more details, including the rationale for this update being backwards incompatible.

One quick qestion about updating: Should we also update to the newest Aroused for this? Or is that part not vitally important?

Thanks again Min, Veladrius and Aelie! You work continues to be wonderfully impressive!

The latest version of Aroused is backwards compatible, so it should work either way.

*Min* · January 29, 2014

I think i did something wrong. i installed and updated all the mods that use DD. but when i choose the hardest difficulty in Alternate start Deviant life. i only get the face mask, gag, harness, boots and the plugs. but the chasity belt, bra and arm binder dont appear. can someone please help?

Post a copy of your Papyrus.0.log, and I'll take a look.

Got it, i started a new file and it worked just fine. guess thats one of the problems why not to update a mod in the middle of a save

This mod is typically safe to update mid-save. This particular update however, was not.

Bwog · January 29, 2014

I was really surprised by the quest: good use of the new material (well, new to me), spellbinding story and well-written book. Thanks!

I add the (flood, surge, etc.) spells by player.additem of the spell tomes. This results in working spells. Is this the intended way to add them?

The CBBE-soulgem plugs work on my PC (CBBE), on my active follower (dreamgirl body) and on 1 potential custom follower (CBBE). Other NPC's do not react (so far). This is the same for 2.6.5 and 2.6.6. MCM is set to follow 10 NPC's. Is there something I could try?

*Min* · January 29, 2014

I was really surprised by the quest: good use of the new material (well, new to me), spellbinding story and well-written book. Thanks!

I add the (flood, surge, etc.) spells by player.additem of the spell tomes. This results in working spells. Is this the intended way to add them?

The CBBE-soulgem plugs work on my PC (CBBE), on my active follower (dreamgirl body) and on 1 potential custom follower (CBBE). Other NPC's do not react (so far). This is the same for 2.6.5 and 2.6.6. MCM is set to follow 10 NPC's. Is there something I could try?

The material was indeed newly created for that quest. Glad you enjoyed it!

The Flood/Surge/etc spells aren't available in-game aside from console. Adding the book is as good a way as any to get them for the time being. Have plans to introduce them properly later.

Soulgem Plugs are a bit flakey on NPC's at the moment. It's something I'm still working on.

Bwog · January 29, 2014

I was really surprised by the quest: good use of the new material (well, new to me), spellbinding story and well-written book. Thanks!

I add the (flood, surge, etc.) spells by player.additem of the spell tomes. This results in working spells. Is this the intended way to add them?

The CBBE-soulgem plugs work on my PC (CBBE), on my active follower (dreamgirl body) and on 1 potential custom follower (CBBE). Other NPC's do not react (so far). This is the same for 2.6.5 and 2.6.6. MCM is set to follow 10 NPC's. Is there something I could try?

The material was indeed newly created for that quest. Glad you enjoyed it!

The Flood/Surge/etc spells aren't available in-game aside from console. Adding the book is as good a way as any to get them for the time being. Have plans to introduce them properly later.

Soulgem Plugs are a bit flakey on NPC's at the moment. It's something I'm still working on.

About the soulgems: with v 2.6.6 it may be just a question of time, they initialize not immediately, but after some playing, reloading, restarting, I see more NPC's respond.

(This was certainly not the case with 2.6.5, at least in my game.)

matekun · January 29, 2014

Having 2 chastity belt same type in inventory with one of them equipped caused a bug to me when I was sended to prison.After serving my time and sleeping in the bed the game tried to put me the belt again and the message about not being able to wear multiple belts pop up and opened the menu like if I clicked in the belt in inventory.I choosed carry on and noticed that I was able to drop all chastity belts but it was like I had another one (invisible for menu but visible in character) still equipped.I was unable to remove it until I did the removeallitems command.

Just tried, can't replicate this issue. Are you using the Prison Overhaul? Reproduce the issue, and upload a copy of your Papyrus.0.log.

Never used prison overhaul.

I managed to do it again with the 2.6.6 version.

First I crafted 2 padded chastity belts and 1 soulgem plugs.

After kicking some guards asses.In prison I had only one belt.

After sleeping in bed and leaving prison got these messages.Decided to choose carry on in menu.

2 belts again,that seems normal....

...but I was able to unequip the belt and even drop them (they don't show in game,just disappear).My char still shows wearing one.

And finally,no belt but unable to remove the plugs.

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My Papyrus log

Note:I used psb command before,maybe that's why it shows a lot of errors,but the bug can be done anyway

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:04PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:04PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:04PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:09PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:09PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] ERROR: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to alias Water on quest DLC2TTF2 (0301AAC8) because their base types do not match

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property AshSpawnAttachChancePercent on script DLC2AshSpawnAttackChanceScript attached to alias Player on quest DLC2Init (03016E02) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027110) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027111) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027112) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027113) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027117) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property DLC1VampireChangeEffect on script dlc1playervampirechangescript attached to DLC1PlayerVampireQuest (020071D0) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027115) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027114) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWait on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanions on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsMale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessage on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property DLC2RRTeldrynSero on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property DismissedFollower on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageCompanionsFemale on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property FollowerDismissMessageWedding on script DLC2HirelingQuestScript attached to DLC2HirelingQuest (03038566) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (0302710F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property PlatePosition on script dlc2toldarstombpuzzleplatescript attached to (03027116) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property WindWalker on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property Necromancy on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property AugmentedFrost on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property MagicResistance30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property DarkSouls on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property MagicResistance50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property SavageStrike on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property HackAndSlash60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property Bladesman60 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property Bladesman90 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property MageArmor30 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property MageArmor50 on script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript attached to (02003BA8) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property Alias_LevitationTarget on script DLC2_QF_DLC2DialogueTelMithry_02017E85 attached to DLC2DialogueTelMithryn (03017E85) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] warning: Property Axe on script DLC2DBAncientDragonbornSCRIPT attached to (0301DC33) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] VM is freezing...

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] VM is frozen

[01/29/2014 - 02:34:15PM] Reverting game...