Cursed Atelier Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Uh hey, I've tried this mod a while back and it worked fine and dandy, but recently I did a clean re-install of the entire game and now it refuses to work now. When I open the MCM It displays the "Devious devices" tab, however if I click on it, nothing shows up in it. Also, none of the items appear to be available ingame. i have the same problem :/ Â
harwester Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Many thanks to the Devious modders, its working fine with submit, having loads of fun. Â The only thing i noticed is when u fail and get owned, and get some nice gags and armbinders on. U should not be able to speak or be able to unequip items. thats working fine, unless u find a container and unepuips the gag from there. Dont know it its possible to make the PC unable to open containers, only doors to get help.
Silvain Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014  I just installed the mod and thought everything was working fine. But then I missclicked and put on Iron Plugs. Well the message that they would slide out appeared but they still remained equipped. Even after I pull them out again, they still are equipped/getting equipped again. But even though i can´t unequipp them they don´t seem to trigger events at all. Is there some kind of console command or is it better to reinstall DD?  (Im up to date with SexLab and DD btw.) Did you happen to have multiple instances of them in your inventory? For some reason, Papyrus's OnEquipped / OnUnequipped events aren't always produced if you equip/unequip one of the devices, while having more than one copy of it. Still looking in to why that occurs.  Post a copy of your log, and we'll figure out the best course of action.  Nope no additional instances in my inventory. I just did a bit of testing before looking at your reply and it seems that my DD istallation is a bit fucked up. I can safely replicate the issue with any plug even if they are the only thing in my inventory. Guess I have a mod conflict or something went wrong while installing.  I gonna look up how to post a log. Could take a while though, since I won´t be having much time to play in the next few days.Â
sit1111 Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014    Check your load order; it looks as though you're loading 'Devious Deviants.esp' before the Integration.esp. That will not work.  Here's my boot order  Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esp Devious Devices.esp   Would this be the correct load order for DD stuff? Now -I'm- also wondering if my load order could be problematic for when I start my new game lol. I'm gonna start a new one but would love not to have to start yet again in at least a couple of weeks this time lol xD (not saying that's DD's fault, I just wanna make sure everything is as perfect as it can be ).   DD's load order isn't anything tricky: Simply ensure that DD follows it's dependencies, and is followed by mods that require it. Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esp Devious Deviants.esp / Devious Regulations.esp / etc.  does not work ... There is only one solution to the problem ... I'll kill myself ((
badtwister Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 what does it mean "register animation options" Â I click on it and its says "DONE." Â but if I go out of the page and then back in it goes back to saying "NOT DONE" What does this do and is this something I should worry about? Â
Min Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 question pls why the soulgem plug only vibrate about 1 second then stop is this the new script ? Sounds like you're casting a very weak spell.  Uh hey, I've tried this mod a while back and it worked fine and dandy, but recently I did a clean re-install of the entire game and now it refuses to work now. When I open the MCM It displays the "Devious devices" tab, however if I click on it, nothing shows up in it. Also, none of the items appear to be available ingame.  Uh hey, I've tried this mod a while back and it worked fine and dandy, but recently I did a clean re-install of the entire game and now it refuses to work now. When I open the MCM It displays the "Devious devices" tab, however if I click on it, nothing shows up in it. Also, none of the items appear to be available ingame. i have the same problem :/  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/21484-devious-devices-integration-now-with-quests-01022014/?p=629358 Important: There is a bug in version 2.6.4 that can cause this mod to halt execution. It is imperative that you set "Number of slotted NPCs" to 0, pending the release of 2.6.5, which will resolve the matter.  what does it mean "register animation options"  I click on it and its says "DONE."  but if I go out of the page and then back in it goes back to saying "NOT DONE" What does this do and is this something I should worry about? It's nothing you should worry about.
germanicus Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Min - thanks to your advice to reduce the number of slots to "0" my goddess is finally enjoying in fulfilling the task. But, I'm a little bit naughty. Not letting her to advance so fast. Â Just letting her enjoy in the devices as much as she can. Watching devices working and her reactions to it, oh my, makes me kinky.
volfin Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014   @Min: ...and it's not possible to make an offset animation work with SexLab animations I imagine?  I'd almost say right, Skyrim doesn't have this. But it still kind of bugs me that the in-game hands-behind-back device can somehow keep the arms behind and still allow you to walk/run/crouch. The Torch is another example.  It may be that this is only possible with original assets though. The fact that mods can add custom animations at all from what I understand is a major hack (thanks to FNIS).  So until someone figures out some magic, it looks like only one idle can be played on an Actor at a time. :\ I'd say the game is capable, But modders having access to that capability, is something else entirely.  The current Armbinder offset animation still lets you do those things. To my knowledge with the current tools available to modders, it's not possible to mix/match animations beyond basic offsets.  Ok, so I did more poking around, and now I get a clearer picture. Your animation is overlaying the walks/stands/crawls. The problem is the scripted access. Scripts can only play one animation (or as Skyrim calls them "Idles") via a function. And it only allows one to be played at a time. So the issue isn't the animation itself, but the fact that both Sexlab and the Binder are fighting over this limited resource. A walk or run can be overlaid because they are system triggered and don't use this resource.  What is missing is the ability to play more than one idle at a time. (SL by comparison can play an infinite # of animations at a time).Â
badtwister Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 how do you create a key. Â Not sure how that worksÂ
Nalessa Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Can create keys at a forge (you need to be able to craft devious stuff by reading the tome in the forbidden shelf) Â Or get lucky and find them on mobs if you have 'For the masses' mod installed
MonaBabii Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Hey Min. I've been playing with Deviant Life and DD a TON since I started over lol, and so far everything works wonderfully but I did spot one tiny little issue that is not really game breaking once you know it's there and have a save to reload but for example, when I was in my cell (I believe that's where it happened), and I try to struggle to get the armbinder off, just before the animation could end, the Jailer from XPO (Prison Overhaul) took over and walked me out, effectively canceling the very last part of the struggle sequence, and thus I was stuck in the spread legs idle animation. I could walk and everything but not even the walking or running animations would trigger, I would slide around on the bottom of my feet lol. To avoid it simply don't struggle if you know something's gonna happen that's gonna take away your controls or something  Maybe this only happened to me and it was something rare to have happened, but still, putting it out there as the -only- thing that hasn't been flawless so far, so either way Kudos!  I also don't quite understand what that bug was about that some people were having. I don't think I ever encountered it but just in case I did lower my Slotted thing setting to 0. That said, I have absolutely no idea what that setting is supposed to even do lol. Would love to know though, it sounds important?  Cheers!  Edit: I'm not sure if the controls/animation glitch happens in any other instance with any other mod, so I couldn't really say anything for sure lol, maybe it's just something that happens with XPO, but I could definitely see it happening with other stuff as well; an example at the top of my head would be the warming hands animation from Frostfall when you're cold and are near a heat source. Or Lovers Victim triggering an NPC about to rape your character, and you have the Brawl option disabled so the rape happens instantly. Again not sure if that'd work but, just a guess.
Min Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 Hey Min. I've been playing with Deviant Life and DD a TON since I started over lol, and so far everything works wonderfully but I did spot one tiny little issue that is not really game breaking once you know it's there and have a save to reload but for example, when I was in my cell (I believe that's where it happened), and I try to struggle to get the armbinder off, just before the animation could end, the Jailer from XPO (Prison Overhaul) took over and walked me out, effectively canceling the very last part of the struggle sequence, and thus I was stuck in the spread legs idle animation. I could walk and everything but not even the walking or running animations would trigger, I would slide around on the bottom of my feet lol. To avoid it simply don't struggle if you know something's gonna happen that's gonna take away your controls or something  Maybe this only happened to me and it was something rare to have happened, but still, putting it out there as the -only- thing that hasn't been flawless so far, so either way Kudos!  I also don't quite understand what that bug was about that some people were having. I don't think I ever encountered it but just in case I did lower my Slotted thing setting to 0. That said, I have absolutely no idea what that setting is supposed to even do lol. Would love to know though, it sounds important?  Cheers!  Edit: I'm not sure if the controls/animation glitch happens in any other instance with any other mod, so I couldn't really say anything for sure lol, maybe it's just something that happens with XPO, but I could definitely see it happening with other stuff as well; an example at the top of my head would be the warming hands animation from Frostfall when you're cold and are near a heat source. Or Lovers Victim triggering an NPC about to rape your character, and you have the Brawl option disabled so the rape happens instantly. Again not sure if that'd work but, just a guess. The animation not ending if the player enters a scene is fixed in the beta of 2.6.5 already. Thanks for the report all the same!  The "Number of NPC's Slotted" configuration option controls how many NPC's in your immediate area the system should attempt to process for periodic events (Such as vibrations, wandering hands idles, etc). At the moment (v2.6.4), there is a bug in that system that can lead to mod-wide script suspension. If you set that configuration option to '0', the bug will not occur.
MonaBabii Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Okay, awesome to hear about both things Thanks!  One last little thing, and this is more of a suggestion that doesn't need a reply really but:  The first/last time I tried the full quest that starts with the one book leading you somewhere East... trying not to spoil here... the quest was nice, but it is definitely aimed at very high level characters. Even the one time I ran it that I hadn't just started a new game over I was still way behind in level. -Could it be possible to have maybe an alternative to that quest? Maybe a different less "hardcorey" version of the mod, or perhaps a code somewhere that sees your skills or your level and determines which quest would be more appropriate; Sending you to X to get your ass raped by too high level things in an area you have most likely not even discovered yet, or something that is at least done in the same "province".  Anyway, just a suggestion for the future  Cheers and thanks again!
Advint Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I recently installed this mod to give it a try and found it to be quite unique. Although when I went through the quest and got to the end i ran into a problem where upon completion of the quest I was unable to save afterwards. I somehow got around this latter but found that after a certain period of time it caught up with me and made it so I still could not save. Now it could very well be one of various other mods but I was hoping someone could confirm or defer me to a solution. Â Note I believe i was using the pre 1/2/14 version. btw still a good mod.
ScreamingSquid218 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I keep running into a bug where the menu in MCM stops working. I select Devious Devices but no symbol nor menu drop down appear. I also can equip and unequip the chasity items without starting the chasity quest. I think its when im wearing a chasity item and then something happens that forces me to unequip it but im not sure. note that this happened 3 times already. can someone help please? Â
Cursed Atelier Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I keep running into a bug where the menu in MCM stops working. I select Devious Devices but no symbol nor menu drop down appear. I also can equip and unequip the chasity items without starting the chasity quest. I think its when im wearing a chasity item and then something happens that forces me to unequip it but im not sure. note that this happened 3 times already. can someone help please? you need to load a old save where its working then set "Number of slotted NPCs" to 0 in the menu my problem is i have no old save so i hope i only need to wait for the update hope it helped youÂ
josh5671 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused. Â Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty. Â Â I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time.
Cursed Atelier Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused. Â Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty. Â Â I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time. just wait he is working on a new update. just when the new update is here make a reinstall and hope it works again fine just clean your save or save your savefiles and make it clean
josh5671 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014  I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused.  Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty.   I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time. just wait he is working on a new update. just when the new update is here make a reinstall and hope it works again fine just clean your save or save your savefiles and make it clean  delete all save??  That should be pain, my main line quest go a bit far.... Didn't has a solution just reinstall?
Cursed Atelier Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014   I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused.  Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty.   I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time. just wait he is working on a new update. just when the new update is here make a reinstall and hope it works again fine just clean your save or save your savefiles and make it clean  delete all save??  That should be pain, my main line quest go a bit far.... Didn't has a solution just reinstall?  i know its pain but first of all i would wait or you can do is install the mod again, but by me it dint work. but i would wait until 2.6.5 is out. but you can try put your save on a stick delet all saves and make a new game if it works good if not, you need to wait like me Â
josh5671 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014    I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused.  Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty.   I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time. just wait he is working on a new update. just when the new update is here make a reinstall and hope it works again fine just clean your save or save your savefiles and make it clean  delete all save??  That should be pain, my main line quest go a bit far.... Didn't has a solution just reinstall?  i know its pain but first of all i would wait or you can do is install the mod again, but by me it dint work. but i would wait until 2.6.5 is out. but you can try put your save on a stick delet all saves and make a new game if it works good if not, you need to wait like me   so...2.6.5 replace file might fix this problem?..or just waiting a little chance?  Â
Cursed Atelier Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014     I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused.  Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty.   I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time. just wait he is working on a new update. just when the new update is here make a reinstall and hope it works again fine just clean your save or save your savefiles and make it clean  delete all save??  That should be pain, my main line quest go a bit far.... Didn't has a solution just reinstall?  i know its pain but first of all i would wait or you can do is install the mod again, but by me it dint work. but i would wait until 2.6.5 is out. but you can try put your save on a stick delet all saves and make a new game if it works good if not, you need to wait like me   so...2.6.5 replace file might fix this problem?..or just waiting a little chance?  Min write this to me : Sounds like you hit a bug that I posted a warning about in the Integration thread. Revert to a savegame prior to it effecting you (Verify by checking that the MCM menu loads), Set "NPC Slots" to 0, and the bug will not reoccur. Will be fixed in 2.6.5, which I will get out as soon as I have time to. So i guess we have to wait, then by me i cant get in the mcm menu it is black and all other mods are freezed. The only thing i/we can do is to wait and hope xD. Â
josh5671 Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014      I have meet a problem, and I not sure what caused.  Problem: The DD Integration inside MCM are empty, after go in with empty all other mod menu freeze and need closed the ESC menu reopen to open another mod menu. And the Integration still empty.   I not sure when or what caused, found this problem accidently when I unequipped Legion Chastity Belt without key. And the PC not triggered SexLab Aroused for long a period time. just wait he is working on a new update. just when the new update is here make a reinstall and hope it works again fine just clean your save or save your savefiles and make it clean  delete all save??  That should be pain, my main line quest go a bit far.... Didn't has a solution just reinstall?  i know its pain but first of all i would wait or you can do is install the mod again, but by me it dint work. but i would wait until 2.6.5 is out. but you can try put your save on a stick delet all saves and make a new game if it works good if not, you need to wait like me   so...2.6.5 replace file might fix this problem?..or just waiting a little chance?  Min write this to me : Sounds like you hit a bug that I posted a warning about in the Integration thread. Revert to a savegame prior to it effecting you (Verify by checking that the MCM menu loads), Set "NPC Slots" to 0, and the bug will not reoccur. Will be fixed in 2.6.5, which I will get out as soon as I have time to. So i guess we have to wait, then by me i cant get in the mcm menu it is black and all other mods are freezed. The only thing i/we can do is to wait and hope xD.  oh..i missed that post.  If me go into skyrim with the problem save, and set npc slot 0, would it work?  Â
Min Posted January 8, 2014 Author Posted January 8, 2014 oh..i missed that post. If me go into skyrim with the problem save, and set npc slot 0, would it work? Â Nope: The change is strictly preventative. You'll need to revert to a save prior to the bug occurring. Verify by ensuring that the MCM menu opens / displays content properly. Failing that, you could try clean-saving (Though this may or may not solve your problem). If that doesn't work, you'll need to start a new game. Â To clear things up: The upcoming 2.6.5 update (To be released later today) will prevent the bug from occurring, but will not fix saves in which this mod is already stuck due to the bug.
Cursed Atelier Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 It works now fine for me. i can enter the devious devices mcm menu and set npc to 0. I really need to say its a great mod and a great support here thanks for all Min. And thanks for the great mod .
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