Devious Devices - Integration 4.3a (2019-09-10)

[Lacus Banan]

Greetings

 

after installing immersive first person view I am no longer able to move during first person view when using a blindfold/hood from devious devices, also the foggy effect is not applying.

If I change the blindfold mode to leeches mode it works fine, so I presume the problem is that the First person view is not registered anymore.

was wondering if anyone know of this problem?

 

I installed the mod(IFPV) using NMM and since it is a pure SKSE plugin and it worked before i installed the mod i guess that the load order is not relevant?

I use the build in sorting of NMM with some minor manual changes.

SKSE is installed using steam

 

I'm sorry if this has already been answered but could not find it anywhere...

[aim4it]

IFPV is actually the 3rd person camera placed in front of the player head, so yes you have to change the mode or you won't be able to walk around.

[hitman46]

Hello, kind sir/lady,

 

First of all, thank you very much for this mod, the devious mods are some of my favorite for the game.

But, I encountered a problem : I cannot unnequip plugs. When I put them on, and remove them right after, a message appears and says "You cannot remove the plug while wearing a belt", or something similar. But if I wait for 3 seconds, plugs get out alone because there's no belt.

But, when I equip some with a belt, when removing the belt, I cannot remove the plug either, and they don't slip out.

 

May you enlighten me on the source of the problem ? I am using DDa, DDx, DDi, with Captured Dreams and Cursed Loot.

Many thanks to you, and have a nice day.

[cuceta]

Greetings

 

after installing immersive first person view I am no longer able to move during first person view when using a blindfold/hood from devious devices, also the foggy effect is not applying.

If I change the blindfold mode to leeches mode it works fine, so I presume the problem is that the First person view is not registered anymore.

was wondering if anyone know of this problem?

 

I installed the mod(IFPV) using NMM and since it is a pure SKSE plugin and it worked before i installed the mod i guess that the load order is not relevant?

I use the build in sorting of NMM with some minor manual changes.

SKSE is installed using steam

 

I'm sorry if this has already been answered but could not find it anywhere...

 

Thanks, you actually helped me with your doubt.

I was having the same problem about Blindfold/hood+IFPV not being able to move

 

Changing the blindfold mod to leeches also fixed my issues.

[hitman46]

Hello, kind sir/lady,

 

First of all, thank you very much for this mod, the devious mods are some of my favorite for the game.

But, I encountered a problem : I cannot unnequip plugs. When I put them on, and remove them right after, a message appears and says "You cannot remove the plug while wearing a belt", or something similar. But if I wait for 3 seconds, plugs get out alone because there's no belt.

But, when I equip some with a belt, when removing the belt, I cannot remove the plug either, and they don't slip out.

 

May you enlighten me on the source of the problem ? I am using DDa, DDx, DDi, with Captured Dreams and Cursed Loot.

Many thanks to you, and have a nice day.

 

Actualy, no need to bother for me, some other mod had overwritten a file from DDi, just had to find and remove the mod.

[Lacus Banan]

IFPV is actually the 3rd person camera placed in front of the player head, so yes you have to change the mode or you won't be able to walk around.

 

okay that makes sense.

Hope that this can be fixed at some point, as leeches mode is not as good as dd blindfold, but can understand if it is not a priority( guess it would also depend on rather IFPV set any flags to check).

Thanks for the fast replay.

 

Glad that my rambling was good for something other than myself Cuceta =)

[RandomOne]

I know this isn't caused by this mod but does anyone know what mod might  be forcing me into 3rd person when my hands are bound? This is a major problem when I get blindfolded as you can't move in 3rd person. Maybe its a conflict? Ive tried turning on and off various devious mods and I can't seem to track it down.

[Guest Irinotecan]

Hey one minor suggestion with the Forbidden Tome quest.  The book "Chastised" in the forbidden bookshelf completely spoils the quest!  It's well written and hot though, so instead of removing it, I would suggest:

 

• Make it available in the bookshelf only if you disable the Forbidden Tome quest.
• Place it in PC's inventory (as their "diary") after you complete the quest.

Thanks for whoever wrote this though, it was well done!

[Morgoth Bauglir]

 

 

So im sure some of you remember me, if you haven't seen me. Hello.

 

Il start of by saying this mod is amazing, well made and fit for many a tasta, but. For some reason I can't enjoy the full potential of this mod, the reason being im unable to deny my character what she wants. It says that chastity belts shall deny those wearing it a good rub, but my character just slips through it! 

 

I loaded a save where my char was fully naked, not even shouts were equipped. My Devious intergrations.esm was above all the others in my load order, so all should be good. As I enter the game I stand still, waiting for Jaxon's MCM kicker to finish. Once its done I enter my inventory and equip a padded chastity belt, I get the message saying i put it on and I get the quest to remove it as I exit the menu. I then re-enter my inventory and equi an adept hood followed by clicking on the chastitybelt (the "euipped" icon on the side dissapears) and I press masturbate. My char now start doing her deal and she finishes, there is no squirting, never a cumshot, but she always finishes. I have turned off stripping from all bodyparts, I looked at the "item stripper" and there was no Item in my inventory named chastity belt, at all. I had turned off the "overide if needed" in the ZAZ MCM menu, and "override sexlab stripping" in devious helpless i believe.

 

If I try to use the milk pumps in MME, I get no fucking machine.

 

If I try to bang a male NPC I only do blow jobs and boob jobs (never anything down below, wich indicates that the chastity belt is doing what it should) Still I can masturbate!!!

 

The ONLY time it works is if I enter a threesome, in the order: irrisistible-npc, irrisistible-npc, irrisistible-pc. Then a threesome animation will start, followed by a bunch of lag and teleporting and suddenly my character is doing an unique animation called "belted masturbation" here she reaches down below and after a short time I get a message telling me its no use. I HAVE BEEN DENIED! <3

 

Still my character can masturbate on her own, no particles, no effects, she just keeps coming!

 

Here is the papyrus file of that last save (the one I described above), im not very good with this stuff so I don't know what to cut away, aswell as my loadorder for that save. 

 

Please help me if you can, want this to work T_T

 

From the log it does not look like the ZAZ Animations have been registered, try resetting the animation registry in SexLab then register the animations from the other mods again.

 

As for issues with masturbation there are some issues with SexLab coming from several mods. The other mods (Deviously Enslaved and ZAZ missing animations among them) are getting errors and after a while they will break SexLab, it happens to me if there have been too many SexLab scenes with little break between them. 

 

 Thanks for the response. May I add that sexlab does not register ANY Devious Devices as equippement. Im wearing a full set from the Expansions pack, nothing is registered in the item stripping section. Weird!

 

 Hi . I realize this is  a two week old post but I have the exact same issue you described. My character is still able to masturbate through the belt , can only have oral and boob sex with males and the only time i saw the denial effect of the belt was while trying to initiate a threesome . also non of the devices are registered in the  stripping section. have you been able to find a solution ? i tried re-registering the animations but that didn't work.

[Princessity]

In your DD MCM, try unchecking "preserve scene aggressiveness" it seems to help with some (not all) animation problems but if the source of your issues is not being able to find valid fallback animations, this should address it.

[zeek17]

Sorry if out of blue.. Whoever posted this screenshot at download page, can you tell me how can I create same character? What mods are used and all that. Console command would've been helpful.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

In your DD MCM, try unchecking "preserve scene aggressiveness" it seems to help with some (not all) animation problems but if the source of your issues is not being able to find valid fallback animations, this should address it.

I will give it a go thanks . But I noticed that the "DDsolo" , which is supposed to play on belted characters is not registered on sex lab . I tried resetting both the Zaz animation pack and sex lab animation registry  but that does not force it to register.  

[GregariousGibbon]

Hey i'm having a large amount of papyrus spam which is causing fps issues as time goes on in the game session. According to google, zadlibs.psc points to this mod, which is strange as i've never had this issue with DDI before.

Spam:

 

    [zadQuest (1600F624)].zadlibs.ActorHasKeyword() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 1715
    [zadNPC (1602F6AC)].zadnpcquestscript.OnUpdate() - "zadNPCQuestScript.psc" Line 94
[02/10/2016 - 02:20:59AM] ERROR: Cannot call WornHasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [zadQuest (1600F624)].zadlibs.ActorHasKeyword() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 1715
    [zadNPC (1602F6AC)].zadnpcquestscript.OnUpdate() - "zadNPCQuestScript.psc" Line 94
[02/10/2016 - 02:20:59AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp313"
stack:
    [zadQuest (1600F624)].zadlibs.ActorHasKeyword() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 1715
    [zadNPC (1602F6AC)].zadnpcquestscript.OnUpdate() - "zadNPCQuestScript.psc" Line 94
[02/10/2016 - 02:20:59AM] ERROR: Cannot call HasMagicEffectWithKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [zadQuest (1600F624)].zadlibs.ActorHasKeyword() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 1715
    [zadNPC (1602F6AC)].zadnpcquestscript.OnUpdate() - "zadNPCQuestScript.psc" Line 94
[02/10/2016 - 02:20:59AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp312"
stack:
    [zadQuest (1600F624)].zadlibs.ActorHasKeyword() - "zadLibs.psc" Line 1715
    [zadNPC (1602F6AC)].zadnpcquestscript.OnUpdate() - "zadNPCQuestScript.psc" Line 94
[02/10/2016 - 02:20:59AM] ERROR: Cannot call WornHasKeyword() on a None object, aborting function call

 

 

Load Order:

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
AzarHair.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
JSwords.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
SMSkyrim.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
MiasLair.esp
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Inn Girls Resources.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
daymoyl.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
MolagBalsInferno.esm
Lootification.esm
dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
FemaleArmour.esp
EC Clothes.esp
HDT Female Hairstyles.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
DeadlyMonsters.esp
SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.esp
Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Blush When Aroused.esp
SexLabGuild.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
SD Cages.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
IridumEyes2.0.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
SGHair33x144.esp
DudestiaOutfitChanger.esp
Extended UI.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp
RaceMenu.esp
FreckleMania.esp
SPB_EHBunny.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
SOS - Leito Addon.esp
FluffusMinimus_Legendaryish.esp
RagingMoon.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RenHair.esp
MeridaHair.esp
Succubus Dress.esp
SPB Heart Girl.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
display-model.esp
SkyUI.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp
SleepTight.esp
SuccubusUNPByNausicaa.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
UIExtensions.esp
playsubmissive.esp
NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp
immersive wenches RND-patch.esp
BDIC.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
KhajiitWillFollow.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
wolfclub.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
Victoria Velina Revamped.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
ArgonianHybridRace.esp
HBR_Marshwalker(Argonian)_Standalone.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
MeekoIsAHusky.esp
Cloaks.esp
SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
nightshade_armor.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
The Wenches Wardrobe.esp
PetCollar.esp
Faction Crossbows.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
selobl_DarkLillith.esp
SexLab_PaySexCrime.esp
SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
DagiRaht Khajiit Replacer.esp
DagiRaht.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Draconic Bloodline.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Hateful Wenches.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
zzEstrus.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
S_L_U_T_S.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
TrissArmorRetextured.esp
FtM Cloaks CCO.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
mslDeviousCaptures.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
TemptressVixen.esp
SexLab_Hormones.esp
SexLab Romance.esp
SuccubusRaceLite.esp
LoversComfort.esp
Davjes_UNPSorceressArmor.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
Mara's Island.esp
Bouncy-Bodices-Booties-Belts-Stockings.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
Elewin Pumps 2.esp
Hermit.esp
RosaFollower.esp
Bandit.esp
FemaleUlfric.esp
FollowerCiceria.esp
Lilith.esp
Nila.esp
Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
Hikari.esp
Neo's Selene.esp
WestWindMisfit.esp
theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp
FNIS.esp
FNISspells.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Vivace.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
Forgotten Wenches.esp
EyviFollower.esp
TisseFollower.esp
Shyvana.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
SlaveTats.esp
DragonPlateBrazen.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
DW.esp
SLSW Addicted.esp
FluffusMinimus_Mage_Warrior.esp
FluffusMinimus_Mage_Thief.esp
FluffusMinimus_Mage.esp
EiriesOhmesRaht.esp
DSerModdedLoot.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
FNIS_PCEA2.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
NPCs of Dibella.esp
DOS3_1_0.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ImmerSlave.esp
da_alternate_start_extension.esp
Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch.esp
PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp
Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
TES5Merged.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
PatchusMaximus.esp

 

 

Any potential advice would be very appreciated. Thanks!

[cooldude19]

sup fam, having an issue with devious devices in that I can't drop any of the devices. any time i try drop them it reappears in my inventory with a message reading "i dont want to put this away, i might want to play with it"

 

getting kinda annoying as my inventory and carrying capacity is slowly filling up with these items

 

 

[ITNW1993]

You're most likely using Deviously Cursed Loot and have the Bondage Lover option enabled. That option prevents you from dropping any DD items because your character might want to end up using it.

[Morgoth Bauglir]

Hi guys. Still having the issue of my character able to masturbate through the belt . Finally   was able to get a papyrus log . As i am useless in reading it any input will be appreciated.

LoadOrder_Skyrim_2016-02-10T13-02-06.txt

Papyrus.0.log

[m.skynet]

Seeing very strange issue.

In my mod I rely on DeviceEquippedXYZ and DeviceRemovedXYZ events to trigger stuff. It seems that if some mod, (I've seen it happen with Deviously Cursed Loot) fires device unequipping fast enough, some or all of the DeviceRemovedXYZ events do not fire, when DD items are unequipped (on my machine it works even if I use "Tie me up", wait for all items to appear and then use "Free me!" option. The items get removed, but some of events in my code do not fire accordingly). Is it possible that I've run into a Papyrus issue? Or is it Papyrus dropping execution of events because there a too many concurrent events and it somehow times out the execution of some of them? From random testing of equipping/unequipping one DD item at a time - both DeviceEquipped and DeviceRemoved events work...

 

Based on quick browse through Deviously Cursed Loot code I haven't seen something special - I've seen only usages of standard DDi functions, so I doubt its something there (If I am wrong, please correct me )

 

While I have some ideas how I can work around it, I'd prefer to know exactly *what* I've run into and do the better solution...

 

you can look at the relevant code here : https://github.com/mskynetll/Devious-Consequences/blob/master/Scripts/Source/dattdcMonitorQuest.psc#L47

[slicksly]

Hi guys. Still having the issue of my character able to masturbate through the belt . Finally   was able to get a papyrus log . As i am useless in reading it any input will be appreciated.

 

I'm also having this issue. I noticed this part in my SexLab debug log (not the papyrus log):

 

[02/11/2016 - 06:03:16PM] SexLabDebug log opened (PC)

[02/11/2016 - 06:03:16PM] Error: NewAnimation(DDBeltedSolo) - Failed to create animation - unable to find a free animation slot

[02/11/2016 - 06:03:16PM] Error: NewAnimation(DDArmbinderSolo) - Failed to create animation - unable to find a free animation slot

[02/11/2016 - 06:03:16PM] Error: NewAnimation(DDYokeSolo) - Failed to create animation - unable to find a free animation slot

 

Could the fault lie in SexLab 1.61b?

[cycl0ps]

When I equip torso armor, any torso armor, after about 2 seconds, the breasts will crush down - enough to annoyingly sink into the chest.  When I unequip armor, they pop back up after a few seconds.

 

The fact that this happens with armor on and not nude makes me suspect DDi.  I emptied the device hider slot for 32 and unchecked breast node management just to make sure.  No dice.

 

Are there any other mods that tweak the breast, but ONLY while wearing armor.  Milk Mod, Cursed Loot, Beeing Female, and Hormones all have the potential to resize, but these resize regardless of armor or nudity, and I have turned off any resizing.  Once again, this only happens with armor equipped.

 

My body is...

CBBE Bodyslide

Latest XPMSE Skeleton (Milk machine compatibility version.  However, the crushing is even worse happens when I replace the skeleton with the standard xpmse HDT.)

Bounce and Jiggles (from the other site) HDT file with belly node

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks.

[Yuni]

I love this mod. Absolutely love this mod, but somehow, for some reason, it is destroying my list of available animations. I have so many installed, over 300 by using Sexlab 1.61, animation loader packs, non-sexlab animation packs, but as long as I have devious devices installed, it defaults to one of three animations.

 

Skull fuck.

ZAPMissionary01

Some sort of doggystyle that doesn't work with ZAP in the name.

 

I have Devious Devices set 'use bound animations' to OFF, I have not registered them in Zaz animation pack. Even using sexlab tools to change the tag for the scene defaults me back to the one available animation.

 

All the animations are started by cursed loot, but I'm always in the same three animations.

 

I have my papyrus log attached, and I noticed Sexlab is saying this line.

 

"[02/20/2016 - 03:31:40PM] SEXLAB - Animations[-1] ZapMissionary01 - ZapMissionary01"

 

I even have preserve scene aggressiveness to off. All I'm wearing is leg and arm cuffs with a ring gag.

 

I tried resetting animation registry, rather using SL anim loader to rebuild it.

 

Is this an FNIS problem? It says animations for -1... is nothing registered?

Papyrus.0.log

[Min]

I love this mod. Absolutely love this mod, but somehow, for some reason, it is destroying my list of available animations. I have so many installed, over 300 by using Sexlab 1.61, animation loader packs, non-sexlab animation packs, but as long as I have devious devices installed, it defaults to one of three animations.

 

Skull fuck.

ZAPMissionary01

Some sort of doggystyle that doesn't work with ZAP in the name.

 

I have Devious Devices set 'use bound animations' to OFF, I have not registered them in Zaz animation pack. Even using sexlab tools to change the tag for the scene defaults me back to the one available animation.

 

All the animations are started by cursed loot, but I'm always in the same three animations.

 

I have my papyrus log attached, and I noticed Sexlab is saying this line.

 

"[02/20/2016 - 03:31:40PM] SEXLAB - Animations[-1] ZapMissionary01 - ZapMissionary01"

 

I even have preserve scene aggressiveness to off. All I'm wearing is leg and arm cuffs with a ring gag.

 

I tried resetting animation registry, rather using SL anim loader to rebuild it.

 

Is this an FNIS problem? It says animations for -1... is nothing registered?

 

Zaz Animation Pack's filter system (Which this mod relies upon) has been broken since the release of Sexlab 1.6. Since Xaz hasn't come around in a long time, we will be transitioning back to DDi's original animation filter system (Updated to work with newer Sexlab versions, of course). This should be fixed as of the next release.

[Yuni]

 

-snip-

 

Zaz Animation Pack's filter system (Which this mod relies upon) has been broken since the release of Sexlab 1.6. Since Xaz hasn't come around in a long time, we will be transitioning back to DDi's original animation filter system (Updated to work with newer Sexlab versions, of course). This should be fixed as of the next release.

 

 

Okay! =D Thank you very much, Min. <3

[arkwyn]

Hello all, quick question...

 

Is there a way to keep ears and tail from HDT Tails Wearable on at all times? 

[Seph64]

Hello all, quick question...

 

Is there a way to keep ears and tail from HDT Tails Wearable on at all times? 

 

Is one of the Devious Devices removing either one of them? Or does the removal only happen during "sex" scenes? If the latter, I think the "Strip Item Editor" in the Sex Lab configuration menu should help with that. The former would be a one of the devices from Devious Devices sharing an item slot with the tail or ears from that mod.

[Guest GameGeek558]

I NEED HELP!

 

I installed this mod & all the requirements but I get this error every time!

Could it be NMM or the mod? How can I fix this problem?

 

Error: A fatal error has occurred with your installation of Devious Devices. Incomplete uninstall attempt perhaps? Aborting update chain.