magicrealm Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Well my friends, i am on the Search for a modder or a modder Team, which likes to do a Devious Devices Rebound mod for Death Alternative. Just like the ones for submit and defeat. this matter should be Independent from these 2 mods. Death Alternative becomes a Requirements now for some Major Loverslab mods and it would be apropiate for devious devices to come in directly. Will you engage in this ?
AshenWolf Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 huh. when i put on Masque of Clavius Vile Helm, it's acting like a gag. how ironic. and i cant get it to come off lol edit: never mind, got it off with restraint key
murfk Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah, I'm using 2.8.0 (and expansion 1.1.1 if that's relevant) Quite odd. Post a copy of your Papyrus.0.log to rule out script errors? Embarrassingly, I've never been able to get the damn thing to generate a log. It's been kind of a handicap while modding :/ My symptom has changed slightly, for no reason I know. Now, the armbinder goes on properly, but the character's arms come out as soon as she runs. Unless that raises a flag for somebody, I'm going to stop bothering you all with this. It seems like something weird on my end, not a widespread problem.
Guest smellbo Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 huh. when i put on Masque of Clavius Vile Helm, it's acting like a gag. how ironic. and i cant get it to come off lol edit: never mind, got it off with restraint key You have Gags+ installed. That changes the effect of the helmet.
AshenWolf Posted June 9, 2014 Posted June 9, 2014 huh. when i put on Masque of Clavius Vile Helm, it's acting like a gag. how ironic. and i cant get it to come off lol edit: never mind, got it off with restraint key You have Gags+ installed. That changes the effect of the helmet. ahh. so that what that esp do.
DCPDDP Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 have a problem with the Armbinder i can't unequip it I've try asking a npc to remove it they say they will, but it still on. I try manipulating the locks then i try to remove it shows the message as if it was removed, but it still on. try struggling until it lose then removing once again shows the message saying it removed, but it still stays on. I have everything updated I've try uninstalling, and re-installing idk what wrong with my game. It just the armbinder everything else works fine.
permidion Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 have a problem with the Armbinder i can't unequip it I've try asking a npc to remove it they say they will, but it still on. I try manipulating the locks then i try to remove it shows the message as if it was removed, but it still on. try struggling until it lose then removing once again shows the message saying it removed, but it still stays on. I have everything updated I've try uninstalling, and re-installing idk what wrong with my game. It just the armbinder everything else works fine. sometime you need to wait a bit when unequipping the armbinder (like 30 second or so), dont do anything like trying to access you inventory to try to clic on the armbinder. if waiting a bit doesnt solve it, if you have access to your inventory, just clic quickly several time on the armbinder till the usual armbinder message panel appears (the one with "open with key", "struggle", "endure your bond") once you get the message, the state of the armbinder should be back to normal. now try to struggle till you can get free. once your are free, do a quick-save / quick-load
Duriel7467 Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 have a problem with the Armbinder i can't unequip it I've try asking a npc to remove it they say they will, but it still on. I try manipulating the locks then i try to remove it shows the message as if it was removed, but it still on. try struggling until it lose then removing once again shows the message saying it removed, but it still stays on. I have everything updated I've try uninstalling, and re-installing idk what wrong with my game. It just the armbinder everything else works fine. i had the same problem the issue isn't the game but the save itself with that save you will never get an armbinder off with out the console
DCPDDP Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 sometime you need to wait a bit when unequipping the armbinder (like 30 second or so), dont do anything like trying to access you inventory to try to clic on the armbinder. if waiting a bit doesnt solve it, if you have access to your inventory, just clic quickly several time on the armbinder till the usual armbinder message panel appears (the one with "open with key", "struggle", "endure your bond") once you get the message, the state of the armbinder should be back to normal. now try to struggle till you can get free. once your are free, do a quick-save / quick-load Well i try waiting didn't work also a bit more in depth of my problem it not just a save that doing it it happen when i start a completely new character as well. in other words if the armbinder get place on my character (or any character i create) in any way weather i equipped it or it equipped via a mod i'm stuck in it I've even try console commands to remove it that also doesn't work.
permidion Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 i had the same problem the issue isn't the game but the save itself with that save you will never get an armbinder off with out the console Well i try waiting didn't work also a bit more in depth of my problem it not just a save that doing it it happen when i start a completely new character as well. in other words if the armbinder get place on my character (or any character i create) in any way weather i equipped it or it equipped via a mod i'm stuck in it I've even try console commands to remove it that also doesn't work. mmm, I have experimented multiples problems since the inclusion of the armbinder, but I always succeded to get out of it (the normal armbinder, that it, not the special version from Captured Dream) when you say you tried to remove it from the console, did you un-equip the placeholder AND the effect ? the armbinder placeholder is xx028a5a the armbinder effect is xx00ca38 (replace xx accordingly) you may need to execute the player.unequipeitem twice for each alternatively: player.unequipeitem xx028a5a player.unequipeitem xx00ca38 player.unequipeitem xx028a5a player.unequipeitem xx00ca38
virgil44 Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 i seem to be stuck i accepted a quest from sergius turrianus and i cant get the thing off and i think it might also be tinkering with the zed quest D:
Guest Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 i seem to be stuck i accepted a quest from sergius turrianus and i cant get the thing off and i think it might also be tinkering with the zed quest D: You shouldn't do both at the same time. Sergius's quest can be completed by talking to him just before you orgas,. (Really just before)
DCPDDP Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 i had the same problem the issue isn't the game but the save itself with that save you will never get an armbinder off with out the console Well i try waiting didn't work also a bit more in depth of my problem it not just a save that doing it it happen when i start a completely new character as well. in other words if the armbinder get place on my character (or any character i create) in any way weather i equipped it or it equipped via a mod i'm stuck in it I've even try console commands to remove it that also doesn't work. mmm, I have experimented multiples problems since the inclusion of the armbinder, but I always succeded to get out of it (the normal armbinder, that it, not the special version from Captured Dream) when you say you tried to remove it from the console, did you un-equip the placeholder AND the effect ? the armbinder placeholder is xx028a5a the armbinder effect is xx00ca38 (replace xx accordingly) you may need to execute the player.unequipeitem twice for each alternatively: player.unequipeitem xx028a5a player.unequipeitem xx00ca38 player.unequipeitem xx028a5a player.unequipeitem xx00ca38 I got it working after i uninstalled this mod expansion, and the Captured dreams shop mod which of these two are cause my problem i don't know yet i'll try an find out
Coopervane Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 I got it working after i uninstalled this mod expansion, and the Captured dreams shop mod which of these two are cause my problem i don't know yet i'll try an find out Then i'm guessing you added the wrong Armbinder via console. Captured Dreams contains an unremovable Armbinder, this is a quest item and should only be used durring it's related quest, and if you gave yourself that one and put it on, then yeah, you'd be up the river without a paddle.
xgkf Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 Help me understand this "Devices Underneath" thing. I have a "Scarlet Dawn Shaw", and a "Collar (Leather)" from DD. Both of these items take up the same equip-slot. Does this 'underneath' system mean that I can wear both of them and have them both be visible on my character at the same time? If so, how would I set that up in the MCM?
Heromaster Posted June 10, 2014 Posted June 10, 2014 How does your Undies system works? Is there something I have to pay attention for my 'Make it compatible' project?
DCPDDP Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 I got it working after i uninstalled this mod expansion, and the Captured dreams shop mod which of these two are cause my problem i don't know yet i'll try an find out Then i'm guessing you added the wrong Armbinder via console. Captured Dreams contains an unremovable Armbinder, this is a quest item and should only be used durring it's related quest, and if you gave yourself that one and put it on, then yeah, you'd be up the river without a paddle. no it was the right armbinder just decided to start working when i remove those mods.
Guest Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 2 questions: where i get the ZAP bound animations ??? please send me a link and i seen in the Assets that there are Soulgem Piercings.... how to wear them or where is the quest ? 'Move along, people. There's nothing to see here.' please please please please please EDIT: I also found the pierced nipple perk in console and added it to my character, managed to equip the piercings but it looked like there aren't any textures/models yet
Mygoodness777 Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 The ZAP bound animations are included in zaz. I installed the update recently and DD recognized them. I just had to register them. They do work, whether you're bound or in an armbinder, there are animations available without horrible glitching!
Min Posted June 11, 2014 Author Posted June 11, 2014 Help me understand this "Devices Underneath" thing. I have a "Scarlet Dawn Shaw", and a "Collar (Leather)" from DD. Both of these items take up the same equip-slot. Does this 'underneath' system mean that I can wear both of them and have them both be visible on my character at the same time? If so, how would I set that up in the MCM? How does your Undies system works? Is there something I have to pay attention for my 'Make it compatible' project? The system is fairly simple: Essentially a hiddden item is equipped on your character, which has it's ArmorAddon managed by script. By use of Logical And's / Or's, the slotmask of the hidden item's AA is updated to hide whatever should be hidden, as per the current MCM configuration. The slotmask is updated every time an item is equipped / unequipped, and is rebuilt entirely on game load / mcm reconfiguration. This permits us to hide items without unequipping them. It doesn't let us render more than one item per slot. It should be compatible with everything. In the case of slot conflicts (It uses 60 by default), the slot can be reconfigured to another slot, via the MCM. If you're interested in taking a look at the implementation of the system, it is contained within the zadDevicesUnderneathScript.psc, and zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc I just would like to thank you for the great work done on the last release. the new SKSE plugin is doing a wonderful work, the performance improvement is really noticeable and I hardly notice any problem anymore, same for the fix on device de-sync, I havent encountered that problem since the update good job! Thanks!
SoberVentor Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 Will i have any problems with scripts, if i will change body part slots in nif-files and creation kit? I chenged slots for padded cuffs. I thing it is work fine. But i am not good in you scripts
azmodan22 Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 just a reminder, anyone knows how I can get the armbender and/or cuffs to be automaticaly equiped on victims when the relevant animation is triggered without having th armbender in the victims inventory? thnx
Heromaster Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 The system is fairly simple: Essentially a hiddden item is equipped on your character, which has it's ArmorAddon managed by script. By use of Logical And's / Or's, the slotmask of the hidden item's AA is updated to hide whatever should be hidden, as per the current MCM configuration. The slotmask is updated every time an item is equipped / unequipped, and is rebuilt entirely on game load / mcm reconfiguration. This permits us to hide items without unequipping them. It doesn't let us render more than one item per slot. It should be compatible with everything. In the case of slot conflicts (It uses 60 by default), the slot can be reconfigured to another slot, via the MCM. If you're interested in taking a look at the implementation of the system, it is contained within the zadDevicesUnderneathScript.psc, and zadDevicesUnderneathPlayerScript.psc Thanks for the explanation. Good to know that I don't have to change or add anything to the items. If that will ever be subject to change, I would like to ask for a PN so I can make the according changes.
permidion Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 just a reminder, anyone knows how I can get the armbender and/or cuffs to be automaticaly equiped on victims when the relevant animation is triggered without having th armbender in the victims inventory? thnx unless im wrong (which is always a possibility), you will have to code your own mod and use the Sexlab api and the DD ressources, as I dont know any mod linking animation with item equipping/unequipping.
azmodan22 Posted June 11, 2014 Posted June 11, 2014 just a reminder, anyone knows how I can get the armbender and/or cuffs to be automaticaly equiped on victims when the relevant animation is triggered without having th armbender in the victims inventory? thnx unless im wrong (which is always a possibility), you will have to code your own mod and use the Sexlab api and the DD ressources, as I dont know any mod linking animation with item equipping/unequipping. i was afraid of that.. Ijust hoped there was a way to make the armbinder work pretty much like the strapon. :-( Thanx
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