Milking Human Kindness

[JonX67]

7 hours ago, vaultbait said:

For those of you who are stuck with drunk speech, I have a theory. Can you try drinking a bottle of some alcoholic beverage, waiting until it wears off, and not eating any of the stew from the breeding pit nor putting on the headpiece from this mod, then when the alcohol wears off see if the drunk speech behavior has gone away?

 

It's possible I needed to add dispel keywords to the effect on the stew, and so it ended up stacking with some alcohol that had already been consumed and then stayed applied indefinitely thereafter.

Thanks! 

This worked for my heroine!

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to get rid of the endless "mind fortitude"-debuff.
It's indeed coming from "Sexual Attributes + Sex Harrassment" but even though my PC went through hell and back countless times in many playthroughs I've never had it lasting that long (not even showing as a continuous effect/debuff in the Status section of the Pip-Boy.
And I couldn't find a setting in their MCM's to adjust duration. Only a button that switches the debuff on or off.

I really don't know, but I could imagine that Milking Human Kindness gave it to her, just like it adds instant perversion and other effects immediately after the first "encounters" with the Supermutants in the pit.

 

Anyways....I had quite some fun with the mod so far, so I'll just try it again from fresh and try to catch the momemt when the effect is applied

 

Edited May 30, 2023 by JonX67

[JonX67]

Alright....that went fast

I've started a new game. And here's what I did:
I was using Start Me Up by waking up close to Vault 111.
I then walked straight to the safe, took the milk, opened the safe and found myself in the pit, as expected.

 

Only here I activated all the relevant mods (Crime&Punishment, Advanced Needs, Get Dirty, Dirty Sex....and a few more that aren't really related to AAF stuff).
I then walked around had a drink, got buzzed (of course) and immediately had my first "Sexual Harrassment" encounter, a Hypno approach by a Supermutant.

 

Already before that encounter my Sexual Attributes had been set to zero or very low (Picture 1) and after the Hypno Approach that funny "Mind Fortitude" debuff showed up in my stats (Picture 2)

 

Unfortunately I forgot to check the stats before the drink.
Which is what I am going to do right now,....

[JonX67]

...okay, I've checked.
The "Mind Fortitude" showed up only after the Sexual Harrassment approach.

[MysticDaedra]

Used the perk removal command, and my character no longer has the breeder virus.... but is still constantly injecting herself with syringes.

[JonX67]

alright...."Mind Fortitude" next take:
 

The effect comes after orgasm and is shown in the PipBoy Stats, but when composure is regained (according to SexAttributes/Sex Harrassment) it disappears as it should, for now.

[murf36]

 

vaultbait,

Just did another playthrough; all went flawlessly in pit. 

However, once I ventured out and went into a SM controlled area like Medford Memorial Hospital all were hostile.

I was nude, no weapons equipped, two months pregnant and still talking drunk (don't mind the drunk talking though).

 

[vranina]

I'm asking for help. For me, super mutants freeze after sex, repeating the same movements. I didn't care about that earlier, but it compromised trying to try this mod.

[vranina]

On 5/26/2023 at 10:46 PM, Sir Bron said:

Still having issues with the SM's acting like their having sex, but only after a sex act, before sex act they are just following PC around. IDK what it is about my load order but I set MHK to Dynamic Patches in Vortex to try to override any thing Messing wit MHK. The reset button sounds great if it would reset all.

Thanks again.

I have the exact same problem! That said, it's been a long, long time before this mod was published.

[vaultbait]

15 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

So as long as I have the Breeder Virus, my character will keep injecting herself with the syringe? That's... kinda hilarious, tbh.

 

Yes, I've seen the behavior described in the past when manually using the breeder virus syringe, but I hadn't seen it when simply adding the perk directly. It's possible I was just lucky. Since that bottle now has another effect anyway I may drop the breeder virus infection feature if it's causing problems. It's sort of redundant since Mommy-O also keeps you perpetually fertile.

 

15 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

I'm quite impressed by the mod so far, and very interested to see what you have cooking for future updates!

 

Thanks! So far I'm just trying to tackle boring fixes for the growing pile of bug reports, before I get back to working on new content.

[lee3310]

42 minutes ago, vranina said:

I have the exact same problem! That said, it's been a long, long time before this mod was published.

It's an AAF bug (not really), Ego is working on a fix. You can also try "NativeSynch". Perverted perks has also a fix implemented for stuck actors.

Edited May 30, 2023 by lee3310

[murf36]

22 hours ago, vaultbait said:

For those of you who are stuck with drunk speech, I have a theory. Can you try drinking a bottle of some alcoholic beverage, waiting until it wears off, and not eating any of the stew from the breeding pit nor putting on the headpiece from this mod, then when the alcohol wears off see if the drunk speech behavior has gone away?

 

It's possible I needed to add dispel keywords to the effect on the stew, and so it ended up stacking with some alcohol that had already been consumed and then stayed applied indefinitely thereafter.

This worked did work for the drunk speech.

[vaultbait]

15 hours ago, JonX67 said:

Already before that encounter my Sexual Attributes had been set to zero or very low (Picture 1) and after the Hypno Approach that funny "Mind Fortitude" debuff showed up in my stats

 

Yes, in order to simulate the constant drugging and brainwashing while you're in the pit...

 

Spoiler

The teleport script which sends you there does these things to the player:

1. Sets Sex Attributes willpower score to 0 because you're under heavy influence of the knockout gas and who knows what else they injected you with while you were out cold
2. Also sets Sex Attributes spirit score to 1 so that the next aggressive sex act will probably induce PTSD with whatever race you have sex with

Then, the various activators which trigger Sexual Harassment hypnotist approaches prepares the player in the following ways:

1. Increases Sex Attributes arousal to 99 so that you'll orgasm almost immediately when a sex scene starts (unless you're numb)
2. Heals 5 wear points for all three holes in Sex Attributes so that you're less likely to succumb to being "fucked to death" if you have that turned on
3. Flags Sex Attributes to treat the next sex act as aggressive and also to not apply trauma

Additionally, the various dispenser activators have differing odds of triggering the above approach routine, but additionally have chances to impose the following on the player:

1. Sets the Sex Attributes mind health score to 1 so that the next orgasm will likely put the player into mind break condition if they don't recover before that happens
2. Undresses the player

The stew dispenser is special because whatever they put in it further:

1. Has a chance to trigger a Sex Attributes orgasm (100% chance when you're pregnant)
2. Heals your baby if you're pregnant with FPE(R)
3. Makes you fertile with FPE(R) if you're not pregnant
4. Resets Sex Attributes willpower to 0 and spirit to 1 like the initial teleporter

The beds have some special additional effects too:

1. Removing your birth control pills and condoms
2. Setting Sex Attributes willpower to 0, spirit to 1, mind health to 1
3. Increasing your hypnosis level to 39.9 if it's not already so you'll be susceptible to suggestion and on your way to becoming a slave to hypnosis
4. Adds the next Sexual Harassment hypnosis perk in sequence if you don't already have them all
5. Depending on which dream you have may also make you (Sex Attributes) a slut, desperate, aroused, submissive, suffering from bimbo serum; (TSEX) horny, masochistic, humiliated, suffering pain, sore clitoris, force a masturbation scene, (Sexual Harassment) equip a shock collar and trigger a collar master approach

 

I didn't spell all this out in the documentation because I wanted it to present a subtle surprise for the player, but also I didn't expect these mod integration choices to lead to so much confusion.

 

Edit: I'll also add a spoilered entry for all this in the FAPs post since it's likely to come up again.

Edited May 30, 2023 by vaultbait

[vaultbait]

59 minutes ago, murf36 said:

vaultbait,

Just did another playthrough; all went flawlessly in pit. 

However, once I ventured out and went into a SM controlled area like Medford Memorial Hospital all were hostile.

I was nude, no weapons equipped, two months pregnant and still talking drunk (don't mind the drunk talking though).

 

While you're under the effects of the Mommy-O drug, super mutants shouldn't attack as long as you stay naked and don't equip any weapons in your Pip-Boy (you can have them in your inventory, just not marked as equipped). You don't mention whether you had the drug effect at the time you were testing. Did you?

 

Milking Human Kindness doesn't explicitly tie friendly factions to pregnancy status, though some other mods do (namely Family Planning Enhanced Redux/Wasteland Dairy Framework).

[vaultbait]

59 minutes ago, vranina said:

I'm asking for help. For me, super mutants freeze after sex, repeating the same movements. I didn't care about that earlier, but it compromised trying to try this mod.

 

See the Additional Mod Conflicts and Related Problems list in the known bugs post. Most likely you're using AAF NativeSync and haven't applied the fix from its support topic. I included a link to the patch there.

[lavatube]

6 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

Depending on which dream you have may also make you (Sex Attributes) a slut, desperate, aroused, submissive, suffering from bimbo serum; (TSEX) horny, masochistic, humiliated, suffering pain, sore clitoris, force a masturbation scene, (Sexual Harassment) equip a shock collar and trigger a collar master approach

 

I'm not sure what it says about my gameplay/life choices, but so far it always chooses the forced masturbation scene when sleeping in the bed. Given that I also have the Dangerous Nights mod enabled, this leads to some blue-balled visitors.  ?

 

 

 

[murf36]

4 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

While you're under the effects of the Mommy-O drug, super mutants shouldn't attack as long as you stay naked and don't equip any weapons in your Pip-Boy (you can have them in your inventory, just not marked as equipped). You don't mention whether you had the drug effect at the time you were testing. Did you?

 

Milking Human Kindness doesn't explicitly tie friendly factions to pregnancy status, though some other mods do (namely Family Planning Enhanced Redux/Wasteland Dairy Framework).

Ah hah! I was not under the effects of Mommy-O drug it had been three in game days (I think) since I escaped the pit. 

I'll go back and get some attention from my baby daddys and see if that does the trick.

I'll have to check the MCM settings in FPE/WDF. I do have that installed as well.

[vaultbait]

47 minutes ago, lee3310 said:

It's an AAF bug (not really), Ego is working on a fix. You can also try "NativeSynch". Perverted perks has also a fix implemented for stuck actors.

 

Actually, NativeSync introduced the problem specifically for super mutants when it replaced AAF's normal stopping sequence (apparently they need it for some reason, while creatures don't). There is a patch in its support topic to add that back so that it gets called in addition to the idle reset that NativeSync implements, and this appears to solve the issue.

[vaultbait]

3 minutes ago, lavatube said:

I'm not sure what it says about my gameplay/life choices, but so far it always chooses the forced masturbation scene when sleeping in the bed. Given that I also have the Dangerous Nights mod enabled, this leads to some blue-balled visitors.  ?

 

All the randomly rotating dreams after the first four (not counting the addiction-induced dream that starts the weapon retrieval quest) force a "wank" session if you have TSEX installed. I've seen it trigger follow-up sex through Provocative Perks (Life of the Party perk) too.

 

I didn't think about Dangerous Nights since I haven't used it in a while, but I should see if there's some way to flag that cell to indicate that it shouldn't spawn its approaches since bringing random hostiles into there might end badly.

[vaultbait]

10 minutes ago, murf36 said:

Ah hah! I was not under the effects of Mommy-O drug it had been three in game days (I think) since I escaped the pit. 

I'll go back and get some attention from my baby daddys and see if that does the trick.

I'll have to check the MCM settings in FPE/WDF. I do have that installed as well.

 

Sex with any super mutants (for example if you surrender to some hostile ones with Violate) has a chance, proportional to the number of participants, for them to inject you with Mommy-O (so a threesome doubles the chance or injection for example). Also you may find doses of it for sale from doctors/drug dealers and, once you reach level 30, on some super mutant corpses too. Its effects last for several in-game days, and the chances of being injected from sex are higher if you're already under the effect (re-extending its expiration time) so you can keep it going pretty much indefinitely if you work at it.

 

If you're also using Unhealthy Craving, the odds of being injected go up the fatter you become.

Edited May 30, 2023 by vaultbait

[lee3310]

8 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

Actually, NativeSync introduced the problem specifically for super mutants when it replaced AAF's normal stopping sequence (apparently they need it for some reason, while creatures don't). There is a patch in its support topic to add that back so that it gets called in addition to the idle reset that NativeSync implements, and this appears to solve the issue.

Yes, he just responded to the same question about NativeSynch new "stop idles" function:

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it breaks when using mods that change certain havok properties (i.e. supermutant skeleton fix)

[vaultbait]

29 minutes ago, lee3310 said:

Yes, he just responded to the same question about NativeSynch new "stop idles" function:

 

Aha, yes thanks, I should have clarified. It's not just NativeSync, but rather an interaction between NativeSync and Creature Resources/UAP's skeleton replacement. I had previously mentioned that nuance in the Known Bugs list, but had somehow already forgotten that was part of the reason. It's been a long, long weekend. ?

Edited May 30, 2023 by vaultbait

[tch65721]

1 hour ago, vaultbait said:

 

While you're under the effects of the Mommy-O drug, super mutants shouldn't attack as long as you stay naked and don't equip any weapons in your Pip-Boy (you can have them in your inventory, just not marked as equipped). You don't mention whether you had the drug effect at the time you were testing. Did you?

 

Milking Human Kindness doesn't explicitly tie friendly factions to pregnancy status, though some other mods do (namely Family Planning Enhanced Redux/Wasteland Dairy Framework).

I made the same mistake... I didn't read carefully and did not understand you have to be under the effect of the Mommy-O drug. That is the shit you find in the toilet in the pit and it doesn't last forever.  As far as I can figure out you can't make it and there is no way to get more.  At least, not yet.

[vaultbait]

10 minutes ago, tch65721 said:

I made the same mistake... I didn't read carefully and did not understand you have to be under the effect of the Mommy-O drug. That is the shit you find in the toilet in the pit and it doesn't last forever.  As far as I can figure out you can't make it and there is no way to get more.  At least, not yet.

 

See my other reply, but that's just a free starter dose. Super mutants will also inject you sometimes before sex (with any mod that calls AAF), and if you're using RobCo Patcher it's injected into vendor lists and super mutant death loot too (level gated, so early on the only way to get more doses easily is to keep having sex with super mutants).

[Crafty_Slayer]

Hi I'm having a problem with the first part of the quest, knock out scene with the safe isn't working. I tried loading back and tried again, it still didn't work, I have all the right mods for this, but it still doesn't work.

 

[vranina]

I saw posters from Kiara's mod hanging in the pictures, but the posters are vanilla for me, even though I have this mod. Not that it matters, but I was wondering if it could be the same for me.