Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 [...] Oh well can any1 give me a nice workaround in which I use my usual UNPB body but when I wear the DD items I don't get too many issues? Like the piercings hanging in the air and such. It's... it's one post above your post Actually the introduction of the mod says something about UNP HDT-PE soo is that sor of supported then? Since that seems like the better choice than trying to refit all the armors and so on. Also the reason I didn't think refitting is an answer since UNP is static and UNPB isn't. So doesn't matter how well you refit the piercings, as soon as you move they'll just hover there while the breasts move. But now that I see I can just switch to UNP HDT-PE I guess I have no reason to worry.
srayesmanll Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 [...] Oh well can any1 give me a nice workaround in which I use my usual UNPB body but when I wear the DD items I don't get too many issues? Like the piercings hanging in the air and such. It's... it's one post above your post Not sure how well that method will work with piercings (havn't tried it myself, just did things like cuffs and harnesses). I don't remember Outfit Studio displaying the texture of the body when adjusting, so exact placement of the nipple rings (and labia rings as well) will be a lot of trial an error. Same problem with things like the armbinder - didn't find a way in OS to put the body in the position needed to adjust the armbinder. Lukily the CBBE armbinder actaully worked rather well with ADEC (no clipping that I saw), so didn't actually need to modify it. I do want to try to adjust the nipple/labia rings for ADEC so I may give them a go tonight.
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 [...] Oh well can any1 give me a nice workaround in which I use my usual UNPB body but when I wear the DD items I don't get too many issues? Like the piercings hanging in the air and such. It's... it's one post above your post Not sure how well that method will work with piercings (havn't tried it myself, just did things like cuffs and harnesses). I don't remember Outfit Studio displaying the texture of the body when adjusting, so exact placement of the nipple rings (and labia rings as well) will be a lot of trial an error. Same problem with things like the armbinder - didn't find a way in OS to put the body in the position needed to adjust the armbinder. Lukily the CBBE armbinder actaully worked rather well with ADEC (no clipping that I saw), so didn't actually need to modify it. I do want to try to adjust the nipple/labia rings for ADEC so I may give them a go tonight. I see thanks, I didn't know you can do stuff like that with outfit studio even for non cbbe bodies so that's great news!
srayesmanll Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 [...] Oh well can any1 give me a nice workaround in which I use my usual UNPB body but when I wear the DD items I don't get too many issues? Like the piercings hanging in the air and such. It's... it's one post above your post Not sure how well that method will work with piercings (havn't tried it myself, just did things like cuffs and harnesses). I don't remember Outfit Studio displaying the texture of the body when adjusting, so exact placement of the nipple rings (and labia rings as well) will be a lot of trial an error. Same problem with things like the armbinder - didn't find a way in OS to put the body in the position needed to adjust the armbinder. Lukily the CBBE armbinder actaully worked rather well with ADEC (no clipping that I saw), so didn't actually need to modify it. I do want to try to adjust the nipple/labia rings for ADEC so I may give them a go tonight. I see thanks, I didn't know you can do stuff like that with outfit studio even for non cbbe bodies so that's great news! It works well with the DDA items because they normally do not have a body included with the item. So you just put your body's 0 and 1 nifs (weight 0, weight 100) in as the body reference and then you use the brushes to adjust the position of the various bits of the item (the harness was the big pain) to fix clipping. But it should work with any armor and any body, including using HDT/BBP/TBBP.
Lestath81 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Hi, Thank you for the update. But I have a problem: none of the armbinders are visible (from dda, ddi, ddx (10-12 in load order, I tried item ids starting with each)). They work (blocking functions, struggle, escape options etc), the hand is disappeared but the item is not shown. I use the latest from each. I use MO, installed them first by replacing the old mod, then deleting all of them's content and installing manually the UNP version (I have UNPB body, but don't care, I will play with replacing the meshes by UNPB later). Runned FNIS a couple of times. I don't have any idea how to fix it... Every other items are working well (RD custom blindfold, gag from ddx, padded chastity set, armcuffs from dda, new plugs (big soulgem), even a DCL rubber suit too). Can you help me please? I tried to fix it for hours by now... My load order: # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espApachiiHair.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmSexLab.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmDemonica.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmSexLabAroused.esmDevious Devices - Assets.esmDevious Devices - Integration.esmDevious Devices - Expansion.esmdaymoyl.esmhdtHighHeel.esmXFLMain.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espAradiaDDintegrated.espDevious Devices - For the Masses II.espAradia Devious Rogue Armor.espAstaroth Horns - All in one.espBallet Boots.espsanguinesDebauchery.espGatti12Jewelry.espAzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.espNewmillerPareo.espBlade and Soul Qipao.espNeo's Scouter Set.espXiNafay - Shoes.espBlade and Soul Negligee.espAccessorize.espNewmillerPiercingsUNPB.espselobl_DarkLillith.espBridalSet.espAradia Devious Expansion.espBondage Straps - UNPB BBP.espHorusGuildWars2.espSexLab_Dialogues.espAradia Kato Outfit.espNewmillerLO1.espBlackLaceMiniDress.espDonMichHeelsstock.espDF_T19.espNewmillerSuccubusBoots.espDD FtM - Cloaks patch.espBrawl Bugs CE.espNeo's Oriental Dress.espGagSFX.espGagSFXDragonborn.espFNISSexyMove.espGagSFXDawnguard.espGagSFXHearthfires.espMorSit.espDD - Interactions.espPlatform Boots.espDCSorceress.espKaw's Claws.espZipsuit.espLatex Armor.espMerta Assassin Armor.espNewmillerSuccubusBikini.espOsare Maid Outfit.espPLCS - UNPB BBP.espPentagram.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espS&D shadow walker.espSD Cages.espCidhna Mine Expanded.espDevious Devices For Him.espEarrings Set1.espCaptured Dreams.espSC_Shiny Catsuits - CD Edition.espSOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espTavernClothes-MTM.espSkyUI.espStrap.espTS_GimpHood.espUNP Jewelry Variants V3.espUNP Undies.espVampireLeatherArmorSet.espZAZDeviousBindings - CD Edition.espTZ_LockingLatexHoods - CD Edition.espanklet.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espsextoys-calyps-2.espxazPrisonOverhaul.espDraconic Bloodline.espDevious Deviants.espDeviously Cursed Loot.espLustmordVampireArmor.espAradia Living Parasite Armor.espheimu0.espDemonica Citra.espDemonica Morag Tong.espDEM VampLord.espDEM Accessories.espDEM Gothic Leather Armor by pclp.espDEM Lady Sexy.espDEM Blood Mage.espDEM Helmet.espDEM Clothes.espDEM Housecarl.espDEM War Lydia.espDEM Serana.espDEM BES Catsuit.espDEM Armors Merged 1.2.espIntergation.espZarias_Piercings1.espTS_FetishWardrobe.espts_slicksuit.espShiny Catsuits.espElewin Pumps 2.espNewmillerHighHeelsBlck.espCD - TSFetish Wardrobe addon.espCD - ShinyRubberCatsuits addonV3.espCD - TS Gimp Hood addon.espWings.espzarias_restraints.espCD - Zarias Restraints addon.espDeviouslyHelpless.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espBashed Patch, 0.espAliciaPainSlut.espRaceMenuPluginXPMSE.espXFLDialogue.espXFLHorses.espXFLMindControl.espXFLPlugins.espCD - Female Embassy Guards.esp Thank you in advance!
Reesewow Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Devious Devices For Him.esp ^ there is your problem likely, had the same issue myself. That mod will need to be updated to work with the new DDi version (I think its messing with the slots or something).
mangalo Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 N..n...no more UNPB support?..... Buh.... Nope! UNPB never really took off like the original UNP, and it wasn't even an informed decision in the first place. Welcome your new UNP overlords! B-But I need UNPB for "Beeing Female"
Lestath81 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Devious Devices For Him.esp ^ there is your problem likely, had the same issue myself. That mod will need to be updated to work with the new DDi version (I think its messing with the slots or something). DAMN! I'm an idiot. I noticed it during reading the topic that it could be a problem, I just forget it until I reached the end... Thank you very much! Anyway, one more question: is it a working workaround to get some UNPB items if I make another zip with the old UNPB meshes and I install it in MO as separate mod with higher priority to overwrite the new UNP ones if exists when MO loads the mods? Or is something script related (such as keywords etc.) stored in the nifs?
Koffii Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 You'd also need to change slots on them using nifskope, in accordance with the changelog. Provided you do that, yes, it would work.
Teddar Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Sorry if im being dim and/or this has been asked before. I have binned my UNPB body in favour of CBBE curvy and a conversion of real girls skin that i found here on LL. Im also using maximum skeleton extended. With the new items the nipple piercings dont line up (i tried all three CBBE options, vanilla,bpp and tbbp) and i noticed some clipping on the calves when wearing pony boots and clipping above the breasts on the harness. Ive used NMM to install. What might i have done wrong please? P.s. or should i be posting this in the expansion thread? i get mixed up which items come from which lol
Lestath81 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 You'd also need to change slots on them using nifskope, in accordance with the changelog. Provided you do that, yes, it would work. Oh. Thanks. Then I download it and make the first step towards modding lol . Seriously, I'm thinking on it as programming is my profession. Maybe this will be the push I need to start ... I'm just thinking on adjusting DD for him's meshes too, but I doubt it will be enough (just reading the DD integration's changelog the keyword changes are not affecting it, so maybe)...
Koffii Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Sorry if im being dim and/or this has been asked before. I have binned my UNPB body in favour of CBBE curvy and a conversion of real girls skin that i found here on LL. Im also using maximum skeleton extended. With the new items the nipple piercings dont line up (i tried all three CBBE options, vanilla,bpp and tbbp) and i noticed some clipping on the calves when wearing pony boots and clipping above the breasts on the harness. Ive used NMM to install. What might i have done wrong please? P.s. or should i be posting this in the expansion thread? i get mixed up which items come from which lol Don't know! The nipple piercing meshes for CBBE have not been altered in any way since the previous release. Check that you're using plain CBBE Curvy 3.2.3 and not a later version, and that clothing mods haven't overwritten the body mesh with a later version (as some do, though I can't recall which off-hand).
Reesewow Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Sorry if im being dim and/or this has been asked before. I have binned my UNPB body in favour of CBBE curvy and a conversion of real girls skin that i found here on LL. Im also using maximum skeleton extended. With the new items the nipple piercings dont line up (i tried all three CBBE options, vanilla,bpp and tbbp) and i noticed some clipping on the calves when wearing pony boots and clipping above the breasts on the harness. Ive used NMM to install. What might i have done wrong please? P.s. or should i be posting this in the expansion thread? i get mixed up which items come from which lol Don't know! The nipple piercing meshes for CBBE have not been altered in any way since the previous release. Check that you're using plain CBBE Curvy 3.2.3 and not a later version, and that clothing mods haven't overwritten the body mesh with a later version (as some do, though I can't recall which off-hand). That sounds like your body may be the CT77 CBBE body that I use, if you installed CT77's armorpack after CBBE it probably overwrote the default body. That body has clipping/piercing issues without bodyslide + fixing the slots in nifskope.
joemonco Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 N..n...no more UNPB support?..... Buh.... Nope! UNPB never really took off like the original UNP, and it wasn't even an informed decision in the first place. Welcome your new UNP overlords! B-But I need UNPB for "Beeing Female" Actually, you just need a body with a pregnancy scaling belly. Kendo 2's UNP Jiggle Body is the body that everyone should be using. If they don't use it, they are obviously terrorists.
Teddar Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Sorry if im being dim and/or this has been asked before. I have binned my UNPB body in favour of CBBE curvy and a conversion of real girls skin that i found here on LL. Im also using maximum skeleton extended. With the new items the nipple piercings dont line up (i tried all three CBBE options, vanilla,bpp and tbbp) and i noticed some clipping on the calves when wearing pony boots and clipping above the breasts on the harness. Ive used NMM to install. What might i have done wrong please? P.s. or should i be posting this in the expansion thread? i get mixed up which items come from which lol Don't know! The nipple piercing meshes for CBBE have not been altered in any way since the previous release. Check that you're using plain CBBE Curvy 3.2.3 and not a later version, and that clothing mods haven't overwritten the body mesh with a later version (as some do, though I can't recall which off-hand). That sounds like your body may be the CT77 CBBE body that I use, if you installed CT77's armorpack after CBBE it probably overwrote the default body. That body has clipping/piercing issues without bodyslide + fixing the slots in nifskope. You wernt far off actually, i think ive solved it. I installed CBBE version of I love cleavage and i just realised it has a custom body which it installs. Ive re-installed CBBE so i might be ok now, still need to check. I also need to work out how to get TBBP to work as im used to having it install with the body (UNPB)
HyperonicX Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 N..n...no more UNPB support?..... Buh.... Nope! UNPB never really took off like the original UNP, and it wasn't even an informed decision in the first place. Welcome your new UNP overlords! B-But I need UNPB for "Beeing Female" Actually, you just need a body with a pregnancy scaling belly. Kendo 2's UNP Jiggle Body is the body that everyone should be using. If they don't use it, they are obviously terrorists. Dood, don't even joke about that. That's not cool. But I will say thanks for the link, and leave it at that.
Lestath81 Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 You'd also need to change slots on them using nifskope, in accordance with the changelog. Provided you do that, yes, it would work. Thanks a lot! It works ... I used the restrictive items' meshes too. The gloves, boots, collar seems to be OK, but the equipped corset from ddi shows the chastity part only without the corset:S...
Koffii Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 You used them? Used them how? You mean you changed their slots? The restrictive items' slot assignments were fine as-is.
Coopervane Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Thanks a lot! It works ... I used the restrictive items' meshes too. The gloves, boots, collar seems to be OK, but the equipped corset from ddi shows the chastity part only without the corset:S... The DDi "Device Hider" hides the corset and DDx harness (Slot-58) by default. If you're wearing something in slot 32, they get hidden. This can be changed on the fly in the Devious Devices MCM menu (for some outfits it's a good thing, as there would be clipping with these items, for others it's less desireable).
uglykidcid Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 For those who want UNPB TPSB Support I have posted updates for Devious Expansion 1-2-0 on my page. DD Assets 1-9-0 can use the patch I made before which is also on my page
Lestath81 Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 You used them? Used them how? You mean you changed their slots? The restrictive items' slot assignments were fine as-is. I meant I copied them from 2.8.3's UNPB folder to my UNPB collection. I didn't changed their slots as I saw only 4 changed. Anyway, I will check the device hider, but as I remember I disabled all (sometimes I accept the small clipping if my character looks better from the back like in catsuit (in case of bras)).
w0mpy Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Having issues with this version. Armbinder is invisible now and the new restrictive boots are also invisible. If I use DD cursed loot to remove items and equip the restrictive boots from inventory they appear but are the light blue missing texture colour. Any help is appreciated. EDIT: Well! I looked around more and messed with my mods. Discovered I needed the new Devious Devices Expansion to make them work (or my old install of it was messing it up?).
t3h0th3r Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 in what state of finality are the UNPB meshes on github? are all slots reassigned as they should (peeked into a few and it seemed ok, just to make sure)?
Koffii Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Those nifs on github are my first attempts at doing anything with skyrim - please don't use them, they're pretty awful. I'm happy to provide raw, unweighted UNPB meshes modelled on UNPB at weight 1. They'd need to be adjusted for weight 0 and assigned weights.
Veladarius Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 For those of you using CBBE I have adjusted my Bodyslide preset for the new items: Weight 100: Weight 0: The file includes the bodyslide preset and body meshes already set up (they will need to be put into the appropriate folders: CBBE HDT Preset - DD.zip These are for the CBBE HDT body, using them with other bodies (like TBBP) will result in a slight difference.
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