Devious Devices (Assets)

[Flameustc]

 

How much of difference there actually is between cbbe 3.2 and 3.3? As in where would I see clipping if I did use 3.3? I'd like to try cbbe (again ._.) but it seems most of the stuff is made for 3.3, or atleast updated for it.

 

I use CBBE 3.3, and i don't see any clipping. At least not with Aensland's Bodyslide set and using CBBE-body HDT. There's a "slight" misshaping of chastity-belts around the crotch, but nothing obviously noticeable or really annoying.

I assume it might cause some issues if you use just vanilla CBBE Curvy, without the bodyslides, But who'd want to use that? 

 

I use CBBE 3.3c body HDT too, however, with very serious clipping on nipple piercing.

[Flameustc]

Also, I found all the "harness" fits perfectly but "slave harness" clips around the hip.

[BlackHoleEyes]

 

 

How much of difference there actually is between cbbe 3.2 and 3.3? As in where would I see clipping if I did use 3.3? I'd like to try cbbe (again ._.) but it seems most of the stuff is made for 3.3, or atleast updated for it.

 

I use CBBE 3.3, and i don't see any clipping. At least not with Aensland's Bodyslide set and using CBBE-body HDT. There's a "slight" misshaping of chastity-belts around the crotch, but nothing obviously noticeable or really annoying.

I assume it might cause some issues if you use just vanilla CBBE Curvy, without the bodyslides, But who'd want to use that? 

 

 

Yeah, I figured it would work fine with bodyslide, if only those were up-to-date. With all the slot changes surely it isnt fully working at the moment?

 

 

Not really. The only things that clip/don't work are the restrictive items and nipple piercings. Everything else still works. And of the restrictive items, at least with my custom body, there's only the corset that has any real problems: there's only some clipping around the hips, slight around the breasts, and quite a bit with the chastity corset, but otherwise, it works fine.

[Veladarius]

 

 

 

How much of difference there actually is between cbbe 3.2 and 3.3? As in where would I see clipping if I did use 3.3? I'd like to try cbbe (again ._.) but it seems most of the stuff is made for 3.3, or atleast updated for it.

 

I use CBBE 3.3, and i don't see any clipping. At least not with Aensland's Bodyslide set and using CBBE-body HDT. There's a "slight" misshaping of chastity-belts around the crotch, but nothing obviously noticeable or really annoying.

I assume it might cause some issues if you use just vanilla CBBE Curvy, without the bodyslides, But who'd want to use that? 

 

 

Yeah, I figured it would work fine with bodyslide, if only those were up-to-date. With all the slot changes surely it isnt fully working at the moment?

 

 

Not really. The only things that clip/don't work are the restrictive items and nipple piercings. Everything else still works. And of the restrictive items, at least with my custom body, there's only the corset that has any real problems: there's only some clipping around the hips, slight around the breasts, and quite a bit with the chastity corset, but otherwise, it works fine.

 

 

I posted a bodyslide preset a few pages back that works well with the items. The nipple piercings are as close as I can get them in bodyslide but at least they are pretty close but not centered on the nipple.

[darksong]

Narf. removed post when I realized I put it in the wrong thread - too many tabs open

[mangalo]

 

Actually, you just need a body with a pregnancy scaling belly.  Kendo 2's UNP Jiggle Body is the body that everyone should be using.  If they don't use it, they are obviously terrorists.  

 

 

 

I gave it a shot but it causes serious clipping issues with the gloves, plus the ones caused by UNP under the armpit

[Kera]

Hey again

 

After upgrade nipple and clit piercings are invisible ??? .....what to do ? please

 

Edit: I this the wrong thread?

 

I try again I still got invisible clit piercing. Its there in my inventory, an is working/vibrating so its there!?

 

ScreenShot320.zip

 

Tried to reinstall mesh/tex no result

 

If it has any meaning then it was  set to hidden when i upgraded

 

Any suggestions ? 

 

Iggy

 

If you are using Shocky's 7b conversion, I noticed there was an issue with a few of the model files not having been properly updated for the new slot changes in DDi.  I posted a fix in the 7b conversion thread.

 

EDIT: if you are using some other non-official conversion, it might have the same problem and you should notify the author.

[iggypop1]

 

Hey again

 

After upgrade nipple and clit piercings are invisible ??? .....what to do ? please

 

Edit: I this the wrong thread?

 

I try again I still got invisible clit piercing. Its there in my inventory, an is working/vibrating so its there!?

 

ScreenShot320.zip

 

Tried to reinstall mesh/tex no result

 

If it has any meaning then it was  set to hidden when i upgraded

 

Any suggestions ? 

 

Iggy

 

If you are using Shocky's 7b conversion, I noticed there was an issue with a few of the model files not having been properly updated for the new slot changes in DDi.  I posted a fix in the 7b conversion thread.

 

EDIT: if you are using some other non-official conversion, it might have the same problem and you should notify the author.

 

 

Thank you very much. i did use shockys piercing conversion.  Installed your fix= problem solved

 

You are my man ....

 

Ps: now to make the nipple piercings fit.....hm

 

Yours

iggy

 

 

[Nalessa]

Wondering what is going to be next for DD items btw?

 

Is there any chance for a type of better hood maybe?

Right now the generic skyrim slave hood looks kinda meh compared to the higher quality looking DD items you might have equipped, would be nice to have a tighter looking hood with a gag attached to it or something maybe.

[UnEvenSteven]

@Nalessa: Koffii appears to be working on a new hood.

 

Wondering if the current padded/leather arm and leg cuff meshes will ever be modified to have an actual locking mechanism, right now they look like they just slip on, The padded/leather collars suffer from the same issue of having no lock on them.

 

The new gear is great and I'm looking forward to more work from everyone involved in DD.

[MadCat256]

For some reason in my game the new corsets, and just the corsets are invisible when equipped. The rest of the new toys including the restrictive set show up fine. I verified that all of the meshes and textures are present in the proper folders. I'm guessing this has something to do with the new slots but the mod that was equipping them (Cursed Loot) has been updated to use the new system, and consoling them to my toon and equipping them myself results in the same invisible result.

 

Here's what Papyrus has to say about it:

 

 

[02/09/2015 - 03:28:12PM] VM is thawing...
[02/09/2015 - 03:29:32PM] [Zad]: OnContainerChanged()
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:16PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:20PM] [Zad]: Set slot mask to [0]: 0
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:30PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:42PM] [loverscomfortplayerscr <00_LoversComfortPlayer (A9042D62)>]: ScanCurrentCell started at Lakeview Manor
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:43PM] xpoCrimeScanner: (Scanning) OnUpdate
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:46PM] [Zad]: OnEffectStart(ShoutStaggerEffect)
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:46PM] [Zad]: OnEquipped(Cassie: Restrictive Corset)
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:46PM] [Zad]: Sending device event DeviceEquippedcorset(Cassie:1)
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:47PM] [Zad]: SyncInventory(): Equipping corset.
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:47PM] [Zad]: RestraintScript OnEquippedPost Corset
[02/09/2015 - 03:30:52PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2
[02/09/2015 - 03:31:05PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2
[02/09/2015 - 03:31:10PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2
[02/09/2015 - 03:31:16PM] VM is freezing...

 

 

The result is the bottom half of a chastity belt slapped on my otherwise naked toon's crotch.

Any idea where else I should be looking?

[Coopervane]

The device hider.

 

The device hider is set to hide corsets and harnesses when something is worn in Slot-32 (main body slot) per default. This makes perfect sence for regular armours which would cover that anyway (and avoids clipping issues), but if you're running around in one of those string-bikini "armours", then you might want to change that setting in the DD MCM menu (remove Slot-58 from the hide-list under Slot-32).

[MadCat256]

The device hider.

 

The device hider is set to hide corsets and harnesses when something is worn in Slot-32 (main body slot) per default. This makes perfect sence for regular armours which would cover that anyway (and avoids clipping issues), but if you're running around in one of those string-bikini "armours", then you might want to change that setting in the DD MCM menu (remove Slot-58 from the hide-list under Slot-32).

 

Good thought, but it didn't work

 

I'm not wearing anything in any slot except the corset, so there shouldn't be anything hidden by DD anyway. Something must be wrong in my setup somewhere, a mod conflict of some kind. Is there anyway I can tell what other mod might be claiming slot 58 for something?

 

[Min]

 

The device hider.

 

The device hider is set to hide corsets and harnesses when something is worn in Slot-32 (main body slot) per default. This makes perfect sence for regular armours which would cover that anyway (and avoids clipping issues), but if you're running around in one of those string-bikini "armours", then you might want to change that setting in the DD MCM menu (remove Slot-58 from the hide-list under Slot-32).

 

Good thought, but it didn't work

 

I'm not wearing anything in any slot except the corset, so there shouldn't be anything hidden by DD anyway. Something must be wrong in my setup somewhere, a mod conflict of some kind. Is there anyway I can tell what other mod might be claiming slot 58 for something?

Nothing wrong in the log.

 

Check to see if the item itself is actually being worn, via the "player.WornHasKeyword zad_DeviousCorset" console command. This command should return "1.00", if the device is worn.

[MadCat256]

 

 

The device hider.

 

The device hider is set to hide corsets and harnesses when something is worn in Slot-32 (main body slot) per default. This makes perfect sence for regular armours which would cover that anyway (and avoids clipping issues), but if you're running around in one of those string-bikini "armours", then you might want to change that setting in the DD MCM menu (remove Slot-58 from the hide-list under Slot-32).

 

Good thought, but it didn't work

 

I'm not wearing anything in any slot except the corset, so there shouldn't be anything hidden by DD anyway. Something must be wrong in my setup somewhere, a mod conflict of some kind. Is there anyway I can tell what other mod might be claiming slot 58 for something?

Nothing wrong in the log.

 

Check to see if the item itself is actually being worn, via the "player.WornHasKeyword zad_DeviousCorset" console command. This command should return "1.00", if the device is worn.

 

 

Returns 1.00 as expected.

 

Here's what it looks like in game:

 

Edit: I am not wearing a belt of any kind, the chastity piece in the screenshot is part of the corset.

[Coopervane]

Edit: I am not wearing a belt of any kind, the chastity piece in the screenshot is part of the corset.

 

It shoulden't be, the belt should only render if you're wearing a belt with the corset.

 

Although you said you got it from Dcur, so i'm guessing that could be the cause?

[MadCat256]

 

Edit: I am not wearing a belt of any kind, the chastity piece in the screenshot is part of the corset.

 

It shoulden't be, the belt should only render if you're wearing a belt with the corset.

 

Although you said you got it from Dcur, so i'm guessing that could be the cause?

 

 

When I originally noticed the problem it was due to a dcur event. This however is a new game in the LAL starting area with a consoled Restrictive Corset, item 1504DBF0 to be exact. The other restrictive corset, item 14028F52 does the same thing. Interestingly the two Chastity Corsets, items 1402745b and 14027f26 are completely invisible, no parts at all show up on my character.

 

Edit: I do think Coopervane is on the right track. Some mod other than DD has set slot 58 to hidden for some reason. I just need to figure out how to find it.

 

Edit2: No that can't be right. Harnesses are in slot 58 too aren't they? They all show up fine, so it's not hidden.

 

Edit3: Found the problem. The nif files for the corset provided in the UNPB folder of the DDa download have the wrong slot assigned. They are using slot 46 instead of 58.

 

Thanks for being a sounding board, it really helped me narrow down the possibilities for where the problem could be.

[Janerunner]

So random issue with the skinny version. The restrictive boots clipped through the legs, and corsets, belts and collars didn't appear. And the restrictive gloves didn't appear AND they deleted the hands. (That's really just not appearing.)

 

But the UNP regular version worked just fine so great mod! Better than the last version which was impressive.

[Coopervane]

 

Edit3: Found the problem. The nif files for the corset provided in the UNPB folder of the DDa download have the wrong slot assigned. They are using slot 46 instead of 58.

 

UNPB folder? Err.. are you trying to run this with an outdated version you've pulled from GitHub? That's months old, none of that stuff is going to work right.

 

So random issue with the skinny version. The restrictive boots clipped through the legs, and corsets, belts and collars didn't appear. And the restrictive gloves didn't appear AND they deleted the hands. (That's really just not appearing.)

 

But the UNP regular version worked just fine so great mod! Better than the last version which was impressive.

 

I belive that's an issue with the FoMod installer (to be fixed). If you install the UNP version, and then manually install the contense of the UNP-Slim folder afterwards you should be set.

 

Well mostly, UNP-Slim support is rather basic, some items may not be as tightly fitting on the Slim body as they could be (and as they are on vanilla UNP), but it's functional and resolves the worst problems that could be encountered with the Slim body.

[russianmind]

So I'm not sure if this has been discussed or if this is an issue at all, but some of the devices icons (the images in the inventory screen) are not showing up. This only happens however when I play a male character, when I play female they all show up, but when I play a male the leather armbinder, collar, and gags icons don't show up, however some other items icons do show up (bronze and red and white varients from DD Expansion).

Basically the actual items show up when equipped, but the menu icons don't when playing a male. I'm not sure if this an issue with Assets, but I really don't know otherwise.

Is this normal or is something wrong with my installation?

Any ideas?

[Coopervane]

So I'm not sure if this has been discussed or if this is an issue at all, but some of the devices icons (the images in the inventory screen) are not showing up. This only happens however when I play a male character, when I play female they all show up, but when I play a male the leather armbinder, collar, and gags icons don't show up, however some other items icons do show up (bronze and red and white varients from DD Expansion).

Basically the actual items show up when equipped, but the menu icons don't when playing a male. I'm not sure if this an issue with Assets, but I really don't know otherwise.

Is this normal or is something wrong with my installation?

Any ideas?

 

For those to show up a GroundObject mesh needs to be set in the inventory records under Male/Female. Since the mod was not designed with male char's in mind, they have not been set for males on all devices (i do make an effort to remeber this with the DDx records and set both, but since i never really play male char's there might be some i've missed and not noticed).

 

It is not a cause for alarm though, the mod will work just fine even if the inventory meshes aren't rendering, it should not cause any errors.

[MadCat256]

 

 

Edit3: Found the problem. The nif files for the corset provided in the UNPB folder of the DDa download have the wrong slot assigned. They are using slot 46 instead of 58.

 

UNPB folder? Err.. are you trying to run this with an outdated version you've pulled from GitHub? That's months old, none of that stuff is going to work right.

 

 

Nope, newest version downloaded from here. I don't use any kind of mod manager so I manually install it. Unfortunately I am one of those that is still using the UNPB body form. The UNPB folders are still in the download, and when I updated I didn't notice that the UNPB dates were much older than the rest of the folders.

 

To fix it I copied the UNP folders from the DDa download to my game, then nifskoped the old UNPB nipple piercings to the new slot value and copied them over. Everything seems to be working properly now and piercings still accurately find my character's nipples instead of getting deeply embedded in boob-flesh or magically levitating in front of her. 

[Koffii]

I'm quite sure the newest version doesn't feature a UNPB folder. Check again.

[russianmind]

 

So I'm not sure if this has been discussed or if this is an issue at all, but some of the devices icons (the images in the inventory screen) are not showing up. This only happens however when I play a male character, when I play female they all show up, but when I play a male the leather armbinder, collar, and gags icons don't show up, however some other items icons do show up (bronze and red and white varients from DD Expansion).

Basically the actual items show up when equipped, but the menu icons don't when playing a male. I'm not sure if this an issue with Assets, but I really don't know otherwise.

Is this normal or is something wrong with my installation?

Any ideas?

 

For those to show up a GroundObject mesh needs to be set in the inventory records under Male/Female. Since the mod was not designed with male char's in mind, they have not been set for males on all devices (i do make an effort to remeber this with the DDx records and set both, but since i never really play male char's there might be some i've missed and not noticed).

 

It is not a cause for alarm though, the mod will work just fine even if the inventory meshes aren't rendering, it should not cause any errors.

 

 

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I suppose it's a non issue then, but it is kinda annoying that if you drop one of them as a male you can't pick it back up. It applies mostly to the gags, plugs, and the orignal set of belts and what not.

[MadCat256]

I'm quite sure the newest version doesn't feature a UNPB folder. Check again.

 

You are correct.

 

I must have had the old version extracted in the same spot, which makes sense as DDa doesn't include version numbers in the archive name. When I extracted the update it must have overwritten the existing DDa folder. In any case, I ended up with a DDa folder with most files dated Feb 2015 and UNPB files dated Sept 2014.

 

My fault for being stubborn and not spending the time to switch to a new body style, being a packrat that never deletes old files, and not paying close enough attention to file dates.