So.. Starfield...

[Ijakor2]

It would be a chance for bethesda to marry the elderscrolls with fallout.

They could integrate their old games into Starfield, if the player owns the old games like oblivion, fallout 3 etc....

Thalmor vs Bos battles would be interesting,

[_.Ainz._]

i just really hope the game is fun to play without thinking about mods heh. i feel like Bethesda, knowing people mod the shit out of their games, have grown a bit slack in their own efforts to put out a fully realised product.

"oh the modders will fix it" is a mentality i feel has sunk in a bit over there, and i really with i could approach a BGS title without immediately thinking of the mods, but it is what it is.

im keen to play it, i know its probably gonna be buggy on release but so was skyrim... here we are 11 years later. so for me, it being buggy is not really an issue. what i hope is that it is "fun".

good gunplay, good story. the visuals are always a backseat for me, cos im still playing 15 year old games these days. Gameplay is king for me, so if its a solid shooter, with tight flying controls and still with the bethesda freedom of skyrim, fallout etc, then i couldnt less of a shit about the story, it could be: "Space Hamsters are taking over the galaxy! dont let em!" and itd still buy it, cos i dont play these games for the story, i play it for my own story that i come up with heh.

[_.Ainz._]

On 6/22/2022 at 7:34 AM, Gameplayer said:

Slime Girls or Go Home.

i would really like if they added alien races, but at the same time, they need to be moddable lol. all humans was kinda boring in fallout 4 coming off of skyrim which, all though are almost all identical in terms of MAJOR features, boasted multiple races, even if the elves are slight recolours with different stats.

[ekw070]

Whoring for housing.  Inns charge sex for lodging.  Just basic vanilla sex gets you a night.  Kinkier stuff gets you more nights.  All housing purchases require sexual quests instead of whatever normal quests would be required.  I'm reminded of Alternative Breezehome Purchase quest where you could unlock the ability to buy Breezehome with either "The Blessings of Nature" or "Bleak Falls Barrow".  Would work for any BGS game with player homes or inns.

 

Loans.  Pay them back, on your back.  I could be wrong, but I think it would be strange if the starter home trait was the only in game loan.

 

Some mods have sexual challenges with some rewards.

 

Travelling Slut:  Have sex with X number of people in different cities, within Y amount of time.  The number of partners required and the time limit needs to require space travel, efficient use of time, and good enough social skills.  NPCs can say no.

 

Risking it:  Have consensual sex with X number of people in Y period of time without getting pregnant.  No birth control, limit on daily partners, pregnancy mod with chance of irregularity.  NPCs can say no.  Manage your time, follow your cycle, and hope ovulation doesn't spoil your plans.

 

 

[Reigor]

On 7/12/2022 at 6:19 PM, Ains Ooal Gown said:

i would really like if they added alien races, but at the same time, they need to be moddable lol. all humans was kinda boring in fallout 4 coming off of skyrim which, all though are almost all identical in terms of MAJOR features, boasted multiple races, even if the elves are slight recolours with different stats.

 

We will likely have to wait for mods for this. Though really, 300 plus years in the future, with advances in biotechnology, cybernetics, and cosmetics, humans could look like anything. I kind of was let down that the hair and skin tones were not just a color wheel.  We have not seen all of the base sliders yes, but I'm hoping for body slots that can be used by modders for animal ears and tails (I want my catgirls damn it!) as well as other exotic features. Then there is also robots, androids, full on cyborgs. Can even get one's inner furry going on with former animals that have been uplifted to human intelligence. 

 

So there can be a variety of races in the future, each strange and unique in their own way, without getting aliens involved. Of course there is that mysterious "Alien DNA" trait. Wonder what that is?

 

[thaclone]

8 hours ago, Reigor said:

 

We will likely have to wait for mods for this. Though really, 300 plus years in the future, with advances in biotechnology, cybernetics, and cosmetics, humans could look like anything. I kind of was let down that the hair and skin tones were not just a color wheel.  We have not seen all of the base sliders yes, but I'm hoping for body slots that can be used by modders for animal ears and tails (I want my catgirls damn it!) as well as other exotic features. Then there is also robots, androids, full on cyborgs. Can even get one's inner furry going on with former animals that have been uplifted to human intelligence. 

 

So there can be a variety of races in the future, each strange and unique in their own way, without getting aliens involved. Of course there is that mysterious "Alien DNA" trait. Wonder what that is?

 

 

tbh:
DNA manipulation should be a thing in 300 years
just adding genoms from animals to make a superiour human should be very easy in the future - so let's just hope for the best

[spoonsinger]

45 minutes ago, thaclone said:

 

tbh:
DNA manipulation should be a thing in 300 years
just adding genoms from animals to make a superiour human should be very easy in the future - so let's just hope for the best

 

People have been selectively breeding animals for certain traits for millennia. However apart from a couple of errant steps in the 20th century, it has been generally frowned upon on doing it too people, (and somewhat 'icky). However if you really want to do this sort of thing it's a lot cheaper to selectively breed traits rather than trying to force random dna strands into test subjects reproductive mechanisms.

[Vader666]

21 minutes ago, spoonsinger said:

it's a lot cheaper to selectively breed traits rather than trying to force random dna strands into test subjects reproductive mechanisms.

 

The latter sounds much more like a solid plot done by some "evil" group while the former sounds more like a plot of a cheesy porn movie.

So... whatever boats your float...

[bnub345]

36 minutes ago, spoonsinger said:

 

People have been selectively breeding animals for certain traits for millennia. However apart from a couple of errant steps in the 20th century, it has been generally frowned upon on doing it too people, (and somewhat 'icky). However if you really want to do this sort of thing it's a lot cheaper to selectively breed traits rather than trying to force random dna strands into test subjects reproductive mechanisms.

 

With CRISPR technology we already have the capability to basically copy and paste genes. Right now it would be entirely feasible to gene edit a human embryo and select traits. Something like eye color or height would be fairly trivial. A lot of other things are possible but we don't completely understand how all of the genes interact with each other to exhibit more complex traits, for instance intelligence. Adding things from other species like ears or tails is pretty much unknown territory. Of course, all of this has to be done while a person is still a single cell. Using a viral vector to edit genes in someone already born is possible in theory but still in the realm of fiction right now.

 

Obviously there are a lot of legal and ethical reasons why genetic engineering isn't done on people, but it is well within the reach of our current technology. 

[thaclone]

1 hour ago, spoonsinger said:

 

People have been selectively breeding animals for certain traits for millennia. However apart from a couple of errant steps in the 20th century, it has been generally frowned upon on doing it too people, (and somewhat 'icky). However if you really want to do this sort of thing it's a lot cheaper to selectively breed traits rather than trying to force random dna strands into test subjects reproductive mechanisms.

so... it's cheaper to breed humans, than to genetically modifying them?

to "breed" humans it would take at least (without any ethical issues) 15 years for each generation to be in a state, to reproduce. and you would need many humans to cross bred. so it would take hundreds of years to get your "super human".

even looking at dogs, it took us hundreds, if not thousands of years to make a Pug out of a wolf...

 

using gene modification is way cheaper and faster

[MonVert]

11 hours ago, Reigor said:

humans could look like anything.

 

This is why we need Bad Dog to make Furries in Space ? Total plausibility.

[Reigor]

2 hours ago, MonVert said:

This is why we need Bad Dog to make Furries in Space ? Total plausibility.

 

I have this vision of mixing a lot of different modder added races into one big NPC overhaul for a truly transhuman cosmopolitan future.  Wonderful strangeness everywhere with each of the three big cities having its own "tone" when it comes to its citizens. With Neon being anything goes, New Atlantis being more restrained, and Akila being the most conservative. That's just from my impressions from the concept art and gameplay shown so far. Playing the game might make me think that Akila might be more heavy into cyberpunk (thinking Battle Angel Alita) because of the number of war veterans there.  

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

On 7/14/2022 at 4:35 PM, thaclone said:

so... it's cheaper to breed humans, than to genetically modifying them?

to "breed" humans it would take at least (without any ethical issues) 15 years for each generation to be in a state, to reproduce. and you would need many humans to cross bred. so it would take hundreds of years to get your "super human".

even looking at dogs, it took us hundreds, if not thousands of years to make a Pug out of a wolf...

 

using gene modification is way cheaper and faster

Not to mention all of the inbreeding that would likely end up taking place, which even with dogs, has resulted in a number of health issues, but probably more notably a shorter lifespan over all. So really it would probably be LESS healthy to "breed" a "super human" than it would to create one in a lab.

[Reigor]

So on the subject of backgrounds and traits.

 

I'm not sure how much backgrounds will have an impact in the game. They might, as the trailer suggests, just drop some lines here and there acknowledging that the character was a diplomat or something else, Whether or not they will open up new paths to resolve missions or actually provide new gameplay is still wait and see. 

 

I am hoping it won't be too difficult to add backgrounds and traits, or modify existing ones to give them more flavor, as long as it doesn't mess up the game. For example, renaming "Neon Street Rat" to "Neon Streetwalker" or "Neon Nighthawk" (Nighthawk is Japanese slang for a prostitute). The trait otherwise stays the same as far as the game is concerned, opening up new dialogue options and increased rewards from Neon missions, but in exchange increased bounty from other factions.

 

Expanding on this, streetwalker missions could have a bonus or be modified if the character has the trait. Similar trait modification of name and description could be done to the Freestar Collective Settler and United Colonies Native traits as well, something like "Freestar Collective Whore" and "United Colonies Escort."

 

Could also do the same with backgrounds, but I think it would better to just to add them, rather than modify existing ones. So just add a "Prostitute" or "Pimp" background, which might not have any additional dialogue but would give the three starter skills that would be appropriate to the backgrounds.  Maybe as compensation for not having having the extra dialogue they give some small benefit, like syncing with an appropriate trait.  For example, a character who has both the Prostitute background and the appropriate trait, like Neon Nighthawk, could maximize the amount of money they could get from clients. 

Edited July 20, 2022 by Reigor

[Canaris]

On 6/15/2022 at 7:09 AM, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

How does everyone feel about the potential of this game now that the big "not E3" reveal has taken place?

No fucks given about that game. I have absolute zero expectations for Bethesda in 2022 after Fuckup 76. Especially when they make something they never did and on their shitty ancient engine again.
I predict it will be SF Fallout 4 full of radiant quests, outpost ( settlement ) building and some shitty plot that will require legions of drones running damage control for it for years to come. 
Yes im jaded as fuck and no, i dont care.

Edited July 20, 2022 by Canaris

[DocClox]

On 7/14/2022 at 12:50 AM, ekw070 said:

Loans.  Pay them back, on your back.  I could be wrong, but I think it would be strange if the starter home trait was the only in game loan.

 

 

I could imagine that if you missed a repayment, you'd be required to work in a corporate brothel for one week a month. Doesn't matter which branch or how many days you do at a time, just so long as you get 7 days in every month until you've paid off the missing installment.

 

Miss another payment, or go delinquent on brothel duty, and they just might keep you there full time until you were up to date. Of course, that means you're not earning and probably not going to be able to make the next payment. Add in interest charges and it could be a life sentence.

 

On 7/14/2022 at 9:23 PM, MonVert said:

This is why we need Bad Dog to make Furries in Space ? Total plausibility.

 

Uplift. Perfectly respectable SciFi concept. Plenty of scope for anthro earth species.

Edited July 26, 2022 by DocClox

[belegost]

On 6/18/2022 at 3:27 PM, almond93 said:

I loved Elite Dangerous. Dogfighting in that game was truly a unique experience.

 

FA off or bust!

[belegost]

On 7/14/2022 at 9:17 PM, Vader666 said:

The latter sounds much more like a solid plot done by some "evil" group

 

Does "Bene Gesserit" ring a bell?

[SeranaUser]

On 7/14/2022 at 1:35 PM, thaclone said:

so... it's cheaper to breed humans, than to genetically modifying them?

to "breed" humans it would take at least (without any ethical issues) 15 years for each generation to be in a state, to reproduce. and you would need many humans to cross bred. so it would take hundreds of years to get your "super human".

even looking at dogs, it took us hundreds, if not thousands of years to make a Pug out of a wolf...

 

using gene modification is way cheaper and faster

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/mans-new-best-friend-a-forgotten-russian-experiment-in-fox-domestication/

 

There was that research using foxes.

 

A pug took a long time, but basic domestication of dogs from wolves may have actually happened pretty quickly....within 100 years or less.

 

A small number of wolves could have been trusting/daring/fearless enough to go near human encampments to eat scraps. If they got extra food and mated with other trusting wolves, that would mean a lot of offspring that were (on average, not in every case) more tame than the wolves that avoided humans entirely. Of those offspring, some would go back to the wild, but the tamer ones would have had better access to food and mated with other not-as-wild animals.

 

And since canines generally have large litters and reach sexual maturity quickly, 50 or 100 years means a lot of generations for genetic experimentation.

[thaclone]

you might be right on that one...

but that's not the point

 

it might work for wolves/dogs - but not for humans

that is what my post was all about in the first place

[TheLadysGhost]

25 minutes ago, thaclone said:

you might be right on that one...

but that's not the point

 

it might work for wolves/dogs - but not for humans

that is what my post was all about in the first place

Well, it didn't work so well when Nazis and SU tried it a while back... Didn't work out for poor Dr Moreau either. ?

[Darkening Demise]

On 6/20/2022 at 12:09 AM, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

Aside from adult mods, I'm also looking forward to some Warhammer 40k mods, maybe a Lasgun or something like that would be pretty cool.

Then they get DMCA'd by Games Workshop and sued since they hate fan creations.

[bpmcgee]

I love Fallout 4 and Skyrim, but honestly it's ONLY because of mods.  I have almost 0 hours in either of those games without a ton of mods making them interesting.

 

I imagine Starfield will be the same.  So I say "I really hope they get modding right!"

 

B

[WifeOnSale]

IT JUST WORKS！

[Onomatophobia]

A space exploration game from the devs that make fun exploration games? Sign me up ASAP. Considering the devs have base building figured out in Fo4 and 76, the game looks like it could have even more replayability than any other game they made. Also, they seem to have understood the absolute failure that was Fallout dialogue system, so I'm expecting to see good stuff there too. As to the people who say that the gameplay is boring - it was always pretty simple, as it was never the focus.