pinky6225 Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Distortedrealms said: Its the same engine. The engine problems on LE are still there for SE. Search "skyrim se crashing reddit" as an example and look at all the results. Same crashes that plagued LE continue on SE. The myth is real. Its not quite the same as we don't need the ENB memory management on SE like we did for LE from the ENB dev page - Version dublicates the most features of the old Skyrim ENBSeries modification with as much compatibility between presets as possible, except external shaders which differ because of specific differencies between DX9 and DX11. Also memory manager is not required as Skyrim SE is x64 and there is no 4 gb memory limit. SE to AE other than some free CC stuff to try lure you into buying more CC stuff there isn't really a difference from what i've read
Distortedrealms Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, pinky6225 said: Its not quite the same as we don't need the ENB memory management on SE like we did for LE from the ENB dev page - Version dublicates the most features of the old Skyrim ENBSeries modification with as much compatibility between presets as possible, except external shaders which differ because of specific differencies between DX9 and DX11. Also memory manager is not required as Skyrim SE is x64 and there is no 4 gb memory limit. SE to AE other than some free CC stuff to try lure you into buying more CC stuff there isn't really a difference from what i've read I meant more engine problems/bugs outside the memory issues. They both suffer from the laziness of a hurried product. Changing to 64bit did help with the memory aspect on SE no doubt, and did solve a lot of problems for people with memory issues that had a hard time fixing it on LE. But there are tons of crashes that happen with both versions beyond just the memory ones built into the fragile engine.
swmas Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Distortedrealms said: I meant more engine problems/bugs outside the memory issues. They both suffer from the laziness of a hurried product. Changing to 64bit did help with the memory aspect on SE no doubt, and did solve a lot of problems for people with memory issues that had a hard time fixing it on LE. But there are tons of crashes that happen with both versions beyond just the memory ones built into the fragile engine. Everyone shitting on Skyrim's engine while the game is the most modded game ever even after 10 years of release and with most other games all you can do is change a few textures before they crap themselves.
FauxFurry Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Distortedrealms said: Its the same engine. The engine problems on LE are still there for SE. Search "skyrim se crashing reddit" as an example and look at all the results. Same crashes that plagued LE continue on SE. The myth is real. No one needed to convince me that I always got a consistent CTD when entering the farmlands near Whiterun without engaging in the so-called dangerous ini tweaks and several fix mods in Legendary Edition while I could do after downloading the game at Special Edition's launch. That wasn't enough to get me to switch versions at the time by it was appreciated nonetheless. The biggest problem with Skyrim is that they bothered developing a PC version on a 32-Bit engine in the first place. Console Parity is partly to blame for that one.
Vyxenne Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: So you were consoled by your PC? ? Well, yeth, in a manner of thpeaking, but now you've made me thpit coffee all over it with your "thong in my arth" comment. Oh, the mammaries we share...
peculiaris Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 SSE Engine Fixes might just be getting a replacement
BigOnes69 Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, peculiaris said: SSE Engine Fixes might just be getting a replacement More like incorporated then replaced.
Rossi Gwiazdaya Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 7 hours ago, swmas said: Everyone shitting on Skyrim's engine while the game is the most modded game ever even after 10 years of release and with most other games all you can do is change a few textures before they crap themselves. Yeah, Bethesda is propably the number 1 when it comes to amount and quality of mods to their games. Hardly anyone else comes close.
Grey Cloud Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Vyxenne said: Well, yeth, in a manner of thpeaking, but now you've made me thpit coffee all over it with your "thong in my arth" comment. Oh, the mammaries we share... Let us put all this talk of your derrière behind us lest you make an ass of yourself and become the butt of asinine humour.
BigOnes69 Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Janosik69 said: Yeah, Bethesda is propably the number 1 when it comes to amount and quality of mods to their games. Hardly anyone else comes close. Yes but a lot of the blocks for modding were intentional and it was the modders that overcame the blockage to create the environment that allowed it to be the leader in quality of mods. Bethesda even tried to take over and commercialize the modding community and I can see when 6 comes out they are going to add some more. So dont get your knickers in an uproar over defending them for they would sell your grandma, wife, and daughter for a dollar.
swmas Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, BigOnes69 said: Yes but a lot of the blocks for modding were intentional and it was the modders that overcame the blockage to create the environment that allowed it to be the leader in quality of mods. Bethesda even tried to take over and commercialize the modding community and I can see when 6 comes out they are going to add some more. So dont get your knickers in an uproar over defending them for they would sell your grandma, wife, and daughter for a dollar. It's not Beth's fault morons give them money.
BigOnes69 Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, swmas said: It's not Beth's fault morons give them money. Get out your kneepads and nose chalk for we are in for it.
Catastrophic Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Sadly I didn't get the message before the update already happened. Now I can't play with mods, which were the only reason I ever booted up the game. The most annoying part is that they didn't even improve the game, they updated it in a way that broke fucking everything while adding nothing but a little advertisement for AE to the main menu. They didn't even fix main quest lines getting stuck (most common with the Civil War quest line). I realize it will be fixed eventually but not until mod authors have done a ton of work just because bethesda tried to fix what ain't broke (while ignoring what IS broke) I really wish they left the old versions on Steam like many other games do, but it does not seem to be something they are interesting in doing because they wouldn't want people to not be able to see the AE version ad.
Just Don't Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Catastrophic said: Sadly I didn't get the message before the update already happened. Now I can't play with mods, which were the only reason I ever booted up the game. Yes you can. You can try the Downgrade patcher available on nexusmods. You can try using the Steam console (there are some reddit post, a Steam guide and a post around here about this) or grab the backup files (the skyrimse.exe and a single dll) from another user. And from this point forward keep in mind that disabling updates is a good thing when you have a modded game.
ttts1 Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 8 hours ago, Catastrophic said: Sadly I didn't get the message before the update already happened. Now I can't play with mods, which were the only reason I ever booted up the game. As @Just Don't said, you can. Downgrade patch (SSE): https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618 Steam Console (if Steam user):
Vyxenne Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 15 hours ago, BigOnes69 said: [Bethesda] would sell your grandma, wife, and daughter for a dollar. No, no, that's Belethor, and it's his sister he's trying to sell even though he doesn't have one.
Rossi Gwiazdaya Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 7:33 PM, BigOnes69 said: Yes but a lot of the blocks for modding were intentional and it was the modders that overcame the blockage to create the environment that allowed it to be the leader in quality of mods. Bethesda even tried to take over and commercialize the modding community and I can see when 6 comes out they are going to add some more. So dont get your knickers in an uproar over defending them for they would sell your grandma, wife, and daughter for a dollar. Don't get me wrong, this isn't some applause for Beth, I just state facts. Regardless of how, Bethesda games are the best when it comes to available mods. I'd like to see their monopoly broken, but it seems like no one even tries. Only heard of one game that has some potential, Isles of Adalar, but no one talks about it and in a year of early access it had been in, there doesn't seem to be much progress on mod front.
lrl Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 bring out your dead! Im not dead yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs
PerFylk Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 Jippi!!! Steam manage to trick me. Skyrim is now updated and wont start because SKSE error? Hope i can make a rollback, time to watch video's. Luky that i noticed it was updating and make a back of te whole game( +100GB )?
Just Don't Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 59 minutes ago, PerFylk said: Luky that i noticed it was updating and make a back of te whole game( +100GB ) You just need the skyrimse.exe and binkw64.dll from the previous version.
PerFylk Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, PerFylk said: Jippi!!! Steam manage to trick me. Skyrim is now updated and wont start because SKSE error? Hope i can make a rollback, time to watch video's. Luky that i noticed it was updating and make a back of te whole game( +100GB )? Here is what i did to make it work as normal again: Copied skyrimSE.exe & both bink64w dll's from backup Open Vortex & click fix in the box that appears In Vortex click "open game folder" paste skyrimSE & bink files, overwite the new files In the game folder click "Data" Deleted those new creationclub bsa,esl & esm. Starts with "cc" Deploy mods in Vortex Run the game & it crash Run the game once more & played like nothing happed ?
Distortedrealms Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 6:11 AM, Janosik69 said: Yeah, Bethesda is propably the number 1 when it comes to amount and quality of mods to their games. Hardly anyone else comes close. Has nothing to do with an unfinished product pushed for quicker release and the bugs contained within. That is a reality. I love Skyrim/modding. Would have loved the game more with a stronger core to mod upon.
belegost Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 11:17 AM, Vyxenne said: No, no, that's Belethor, and it's his sister he's trying to sell even though he doesn't have one. He does state "if I had a sister", not "I have a sister". Though I'm pretty sure that somewhere exists a mod that fixes that.
OmegaBlaster Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, belegost said: He does state "if I had a sister", not "I have a sister". Though I'm pretty sure that somewhere exists a mod that fixes that. Hydra Slavegirl mod, as I recall.
Tinkering Solderbro Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 Feels a bit like divide an conquer, 90% of side loaded mods are destroyed by Beth's changes. But all the people can enter their store to buy new and "clean" mods. No way for the update here, it will cause to much destruction. Reminds me to the time when Linux went from LibC5 to LibC7....
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