xaz Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 I have a question / feature request about the animations. How do I make a victim using a ZaZ furniture to react realistically when it's punished? I mean, usually we expect the victim to twitch or move convulsively when it's hit by a crop or a whip. I know we have some nice struggling animations, but I wish we also have such of them that can be expected upon an impact. Â Do you have a plan to add such animations in future? And if not, how much would it be difficult to make one from the existing animations? Â By the way, I can't wait for the drooling feature. Thanks! ZaZ has looked more at timing and animations than I have. I'm pretty sure that the "right" way to do it is by using paired animations. I think all resources are there, so could be easy to do....
fallenmystic Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Â ZaZ has looked more at timing and animations than I have. I'm pretty sure that the "right" way to do it is by using paired animations. I think all resources are there, so could be easy to do.... Â I see, another reason to wait for the paired animation support
guilbarane Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 Curious about whether there's a way to trigger a sex animation for the one where the victim is suspended by hands and feet in the air? Fairly new to this, any support would be appreciated!
magicrealm Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 i really hate it . i hate it, since 2 years i am screaming shouting begging prosting, saying, writing, that zaz animations Need mods who perform it. you say look there are so many. why then do i use no one ? after spending two years testing everyone. ! because they are all full bugged, they are overloaded with ´content around zaz, that is wanted or unwanted, but always bugged. why can nobody make that simple zaz matchmaker ? whý are zaz animations not part of sexlab as creature animatiuons are ? with displaymodel8 or 9 there is a mod that cast spells on target or yourself to let the zaz furnitures and chains appear , the target within. why not adding the active part of the Scene ? i dont Play prison overhaul anymore because it takes 2 days and is bugged, worse is sanguine debouchery, and Maria eden, etc. I WANT IT SIMPLE;, EFFECTIVE AND PLAYABLE !. but no, no, no, you want it complex, uneffective and unplayable in the end.  ZAZ MATCHMAKER PLEASE !
yolobomber Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Zaz, If I would like to make an animation how would I even do it( as you use blender if i remember correctly), do you got any tutorial or something to start me up?
xaz Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015  my problem is that in my game there are not playng any bound animations... the victim just gets unbound and normal animation plays... and no one answers me how to fix it !!! Have you registered zaz animations with sexlab from the zaz MCM menu AFTER u have registered any anims at the sexlab MCM menu? Umm, ok even i wouldnt understand that...to clarify... you need to go to MCM ZAZ menu - sexlab and register the ZAZ amimations. And u need to repeat that every time u change anything like clean or reregister animations at the sexlab mcm menu. At least thats what i do . Hope this helps.  Registering animation rarely help SexLab animations play correctly. It does depend on the method, though, but DD overriding does not depend on registration, and if a mod explicitly asks for ZAP animations to play, it's quite likely to use the API from ZAP to play. Which also doesn't need registration to work.  Registration for ZAP is mostly unnecessary and will only fill up your limited slots at this point. Curious about whether there's a way to trigger a sex animation for the one where the victim is suspended by hands and feet in the air? Fairly new to this, any support would be appreciated! No sorry, there are no animations for those. I guess one could put something like that together, though, .... no promises though, there's too much on my table already for the near future. i really hate it . i hate it, since 2 years i am screaming shouting begging prosting, saying, writing, that zaz animations Need mods who perform it. you say look there are so many. why then do i use no one ? after spending two years testing everyone. ! because they are all full bugged, they are overloaded with ´content around zaz, that is wanted or unwanted, but always bugged. why can nobody make that simple zaz matchmaker ? whý are zaz animations not part of sexlab as creature animatiuons are ? with displaymodel8 or 9 there is a mod that cast spells on target or yourself to let the zaz furnitures and chains appear , the target within. why not adding the active part of the Scene ? i dont Play prison overhaul anymore because it takes 2 days and is bugged, worse is sanguine debouchery, and Maria eden, etc. I WANT IT SIMPLE;, EFFECTIVE AND PLAYABLE !. but no, no, no, you want it complex, uneffective and unplayable in the end.  ZAZ MATCHMAKER PLEASE ! I hear you. In the next version, which is a beta, but on the plus side I'm about to upload it in a few minutes....  1. The MCM menu is improved, so it's a lot easier to select your animations and slot actors. 2. ZAP can override any animations for you. If a character is bound, then the appropriate animations will play automatically for you.  This isn't what you want, but it's what you'll get short term. I have a lot of stuff already to do, and won't be promising anything new until my backlog empties up a little.
xaz Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Update, beta but should be stable:  6.05 (beta 1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Bug fixes. - Lots and lots of fixes.  * Slot system. - MCM support. - Full api for modders to utilize. See zbfSlot.html for more information. - Fully controls bindings on the actor, disabling abilities, and controlling animations in detail on that actor. - Expressions. Mouth open and expression are now separated. - All effects available through the enchantment system also available through the slots system.  * Improvements to SexLab api. - See zbfSexLab.html for more information. - Highlights are new functions that closely mimic the SexLab api.  * SexLab integration improvements - Support for soloing actors. Superfluous actors can now be automatically placed in solo animation slots. No changes needed at the api level (although the option is there to enable/disable). - Improved overrides. Expression override for gag expressions. Support for automatic animation override. - Improved support for new keywords. - SexLab keyword improvements, more consistent selection of keywords and full documentation.  * Documentation - All relevant files are now fully documented at the api level.  * Slave leash - Leash player from point A to point B, similar to many other mods. Fully configurable. See zbfSlaveLeash.html for more api info. - MCM menu for configuration.  * Enchantment bindings system - Added control events for refreshing and logging status - Can be sent from mods to refresh all actors. - Improved stability, and removed some bugs.  * Keywords - New modders keywords for completeness (zbfWornBra, for instance). - Furniture keywords -- zbfFurnitureTypeWicked: applied to furniture that's embarassing or slightly painful -- zbfFurnitureTypePainful: very painful or unpleasant, but not deadly -- zbfFurnitureTypeDeadly: deadly, like the roasting pit  * Actor selection system - Actors can be selected through the console menu or by pointing the crosshair at them. Pressing "N" (same as SexLab on purpose) selects the actor. - Selected actors can be placed in SexLab animation through MCM. - Selected actors can be placed in the slotting system.  * Meshes - Cleaned up meshes. All ArmorAddons are now split into hands and feet as appropriate. Worn items are left intakt, but combine these two. - Meshes are also cleaned up; one mesh for hands and one for feet.  * Textures - Cleaned up texture use across all meshes.  * Utility - Lots of utility functions. See zbfUtil.html for more documentation.  --------------------- There is not much new content in this one, it's mostly just mechanics. Still lots of stuff to play around with. I'll be adding all the things I've planned during the coming weeks. Most of it's "done", but not finally merged to the release track yet.  Things are coming, hang in there. I still wanted to get this out there, because I need feedback from modders and so on.  Before you bash me for removing the old version, there was a lot of questions already from the three files setup. I gave it a long hard thought and decided that the amount of issues people had with three files would mean a disaster with five files (or six if you count the translation). Removing the old version was necessary. I'm confident that this version will work well, or that it's at leeast patchable with little effort. Let me know ....
zaira Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Awesome - and the documentation  - thank you! Well, I'll postpone Maria Eden 1.25 to remove lots of stuff that is no longer necessary.  One question about leashed: Did I understand right: I can define and start a leash in a scene phase and simply add a wait condition that stops the phase when zbfSlaveLeashStatus switches to 0?Â
Slorm Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Xaz  Did you incorporate the DH fix you kindly supplied a while back
zaira Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 More questions to 6.05: Do you add voices and expression overrides when player is using a furniture? For example moaning when using a wicked device? Could you add additional keywords to furnitures to allow us to detect the correct place for whippings? Eg. in pillories I expect whipping scenes from behind and in X-Cross from the front. Is it possible to create furnitures for some of the device animations? Eg. small hanging cage, pole with spread legs, hanging chains In the past Maria Eden adds Sexlab Nostrip keywords to the zbf restraints to prevent Sexlab from removing it. Is it still necessary?
zaira Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 First bug reports: C:\steam\Mod Organizer\mods\Maria\Scripts\Source\zbfSexLab.psc(1250,19): unknown type zzzconfig C:\steam\Mod Organizer\mods\Maria\Scripts\Source\zbfSexLab.psc(1251,61): cannot convert to unknown type zzzconfig C:\steam\Mod Organizer\mods\Maria\Scripts\Source\zbfSexLab.psc(1251,61): cannot cast a form to a zzzconfig, types are incompatible C:\steam\Mod Organizer\mods\Maria\Scripts\Source\zbfSexLab.psc(1264,13): unknown type zzzconfig C:\steam\Mod Organizer\mods\Maria\Scripts\Source\zbfSexLab.psc(1265,25): zzzconfig is not a known user-defined type C:\steam\Mod Organizer\mods\Maria\Scripts\Source\zbfSexLab.psc(1265,7): type mismatch while assigning to a int (cast missing or types unrelated) xaz_slave_proj.esp is not part of your mod yet
darkfender666 Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 easy question:  Is the update compatible with other mods requiring it or at least the most famous like cursed loot, maria eden and such?
zaira Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 easy question:  Is the update compatible with other mods requiring it or at least the most famous like cursed loot, maria eden and such? Maria Eden - as far as I see in zbf code - yes - but I started making some adaptions.
asdasd123123 Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I've got a weird issue. Never had this issue before on any mod.  Zaz appears to load fine, but i get no menu whatsoever? I just updating, and started a 100% new CLEAN save and i made sure to remove ALL old files of previous Zaz stuff. If i load a non-new save, the menu works fine. If i start a new game, it doesn't even register. Even after waiting 20 minutes.Â
Guest ffabris Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I've got a weird issue. Never had this issue before on any mod.  Zaz appears to load fine, but i get no menu whatsoever? I just updating, and started a 100% new CLEAN save and i made sure to remove ALL old files of previous Zaz stuff. If i load a non-new save, the menu works fine. If i start a new game, it doesn't even register. Even after waiting 20 minutes.  Same here. Removed the old Zaz, loaded game, saved, cleaned, installed the new, loaded game ... no MCM entry. But I do see: zbf External: Initialize.
asdasd123123 Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015  I've got a weird issue. Never had this issue before on any mod.  Zaz appears to load fine, but i get no menu whatsoever? I just updating, and started a 100% new CLEAN save and i made sure to remove ALL old files of previous Zaz stuff. If i load a non-new save, the menu works fine. If i start a new game, it doesn't even register. Even after waiting 20 minutes.  Same here. Removed the old Zaz, loaded game, saved, cleaned, installed the new, loaded game ... no MCM entry. But I do see: zbf External: Initialize.  Whew, glad it's not just me. I also appear to have all the assets of zaz loaded perfectly. I read the changes and a few points are rather vague making it hard to figure out what exactly he means. For instance, it says "MCM support.", but i don't remember Zaz animations ever NOT having MCM support?Â
zaira Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Non MCM for me either - and leash does not work Got several weird logs  Several of these[06/03/2015 - 01:06:59AM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForModEvent - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[None].zbfEffectBondage.RegisterForModEvent() - "" Line ?[None].zbfEffectBondage.RegisterForEvents() - "zbfEffectBondage.psc" Line ?[None].zbfEffectBondage.OnEffectStart() - "zbfEffectBondage.psc" Line ?Many many of these:[06/03/2015 - 01:07:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0D0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line ?[alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0D0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line ?[alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0D0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line ?   Leash teleports player permanently to the leash holder - although distance is small - and leashholder does not move to destination.
majordespair Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 ditto for no mcm, brand new game MO installed, config scripts are there though, I assume that's the mcm bit.
Feliks Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I'm also missing the MCM, loaded up a brand new character and clean save in MO. still nothing.
Sacremas Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I really love the ZAZ animations for bondage scenes, but I hate them appearing for normal scenes. What's the best way to use this pack if only want the animations to show up for bondage or aggressive/rape scenes? Also if I do not register the animations for sexlab, will sexal mods still be able to call on the animations?
stx06 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I had a confusing experience with the new version. Â First, my old saves caused the game to CTD, so I created a clean save. Â This worked in all vanilla and most modded aspects, except that any living entity was declared as unsupported creature type (which I think may have been the Creature Framework having trouble), so no one was able to have sex. Â Finally, I reloaded one of the saves that I had been unable to load from the main menu, and lo and behold, everything worked fine and dandy!
asdasd123123 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 I had a confusing experience with the new version. Â First, my old saves caused the game to CTD, so I created a clean save. Â This worked in all vanilla and most modded aspects, except that any living entity was declared as unsupported creature type (which I think may have been the Creature Framework having trouble), so no one was able to have sex. Â Finally, I reloaded one of the saves that I had been unable to load from the main menu, and lo and behold, everything worked fine and dandy! Had the same problem but i fixed it by using the reset option in the sexlab menu. Worked perfectly.Â
pinky6225 Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 just installed the newest version 6.05 main and texture and run FNIS and i'm getting the below on the consistant check (wasn't their for 6.04 with non-sexlab animation pack 2.6 installed)    Duplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s4 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s5 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s4 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s5 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a1_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a1_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a1_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a2_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a2_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a2_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPack    Full FNIS is   FNIS Behavior V5.4.2  03/06/2015 08:50:55Skyrim: 1.9.32.0 - C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ (Steam)Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)  male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"Reading Beastess V0.1 ...Reading Cum Shot Brothel V0.6.7 ...Reading DeviousDevices V2.9.0 ...Reading EstrusChaurus V?.? ...Reading FNISBase V5.4.2 ...Reading FNISCreatureVersion V5.3 ...Reading FNISSexyMove V1.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 9 alternate animations) ...Reading MiasLair V4.0 ...Reading MNC V?.? ...Reading NonSexLabAnimationPack V2.6 ...Reading sanguinesDebauchery V?.? ...Reading SexLab V1.59c ...Reading SexLabCreature V1.59c ...Reading ZaZAnimationPack V6.0.5 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 alternate animations) ...Reading zzEstrus V1.2 ...All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files ...Create Creature Behaviors ...Reading MNC V?.? ...Reading SexLabCreature V1.59c ...mt_behavior usage: 23.3 %  ( 0 furniture, 29 offset, 0 alternate animations) 2833 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character) 544 animations for 2 mods and 22 creatures successfully included.Duplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s4 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a1_s5 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s4 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_bj_a2_s5 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a1_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a1_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a1_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a2_s1 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a2_s2 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackDuplicate AnimEvent leito_kissing_male_start_a2_s3 for character, mods NonSexLabAnimationPack and ZaZAnimationPackMissing AnimFile csbTest.hkx for character, mod Cum Shot Brothel - CPU (mod auther) said not to worry about this one 17 possible consistence issues  Should i also not worry about these ones?  Thanks
sidfu Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 so far for me i just have no mcm. fnis seemed to find files fine for me.
zaira Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 More bugs - no more Zaz specific sex animations, no expression overrides. I think, all these problems have the same root cause - Zaz Mod was not initialized properly.
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