Public Whore

[blahity]

I've been trying out the money setting with the PC not handling the money. I've notice that although it says "Chance clients won't pay" it is actually reversed, and is actually a Chance clients will pay option. So currently setting "won't pay chance"  to 100% means there will be a 100% chance they will pay. The easiest solution for a fix would be just to chance the wording in the MCM rather than editing any scripts.

[Nymra]

4 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

that was included with Interactive Gallows, and when I packaged that with PW I expected ZaZ to be a soft dependency still. But since ZaZ is a hard dependency it's obsolete and will be removed in the next version.

 

thx for the reply.
I just ask because I have alot of business with zaz stuff and add some stuff in that way too. Basically just the behaviour file only irritated me  

 

 

4 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

The errors mean it's trying to update your SLSF info while you're in the wilderness or some non-capitol location, and can't assign the data it's grabbing to anything. I'll need to add parameter-checking on that function, then it should stop throwing that.

 

ok, would be nice. I mean I just browsed logs endlessly because of my own testing of Naked Defeat. 

 

4 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

I didn't really have a reason not to include source files other than that I didn't think they'd be necessary. To be honest it never occurred to me to look at the error logs (likely contributes to why this took so long). I can put the srcs in the next version.

 

 

thx, much appreciated. 
I really love SRC. because it allows to customize small parts of a mod. I also tend to hardcode my custom settings into the scripts because I m gworing tired of even "load MCM profile"


Btw:
THis mod is really very hot from the descriptions and i can now finally start testing it after a 40 hour shift in my own scripts. 
Hope it offers some replayability because it would be nice for SS++ chains (which I love alot)

[shiagwen]

9 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

 

 

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It'd be possible to monitor for every sex scene, it just raises some difficult questions. Such as whether the amount the player should turn in goes up, and whether or not the player is getting payed for those scenes. If they are getting payed, do I try and add a dialogue and potentially interrupt what was going on beforehand? Story-wise, was the sex scene already in exchange for something, causing an additional payment to seem illogical? Or if they aren't getting payed, and the expected turn-in goes up, does that make it too frustrating? It's potentially possible to do but it'd be a bit strange to implement. In the mean time I'm going to decrease the default quotas so that it should be more manageable.

 

i dont know how money is handled in this mod in detail. does the thane care from where you get the money ? can you put money from selling items in?  if so, than you can take the money option and raise the per-client-income, balancing the unpayed sex. so you dont need to integrate other mods.

 

Another simple question : what happens after the pc has done her 7 days work ? will she become the PW again ? by force or by free will ? or is this job closed ?

[secondseason]

Small Bug Report. I went to Riften and got Force-greeted by an Guard to meet the Jarl ( Maven the Imperials won the Civil War ). Fame is 792 so the Fame Condition is true. I planned to become the Public Whore but did want to get rid on some Crap before and want to the Bondage House. This bypasses the Riften Doors altogether, but counts as leaving Riften. After i returned i met Maven and she had no Lines for the Public Whore Quest. Probably because the Quest did reset due to leaving Riften, and not meeting a Guard since then. Since Maven did not offer the  Quest i went directly to the Thane to start the Quest. No i am constantly Force-greeted  by Guards to start the Fame Quest even as my Status in MCM states i am already the Public Whore. I would recommend only starting the Force-greet if the Public Whore Status for this Hold is False.

 

I also would find it far more Logical if the Public Whore Quest would be handled by the Steward of the Hold. Adding the extra Thane seems Counter-intuitive as all other Hold Quest and Finance Issues are handled by the Steward.

 

 

[iggypop1]

Tried to force-enslave to Auction house while beeing Whore in Whiterun . While on the podium one of the auctioneers decided to make use of the whore my PC protested not beeing a whore in this hold He didnt care at the same time my PC was sold  CTD...ofcourse

 

So there is a possible conflict here....just saying

[Nymra]

Small Feedback:

 

When I run away and when I m brought back via Blackfade and PopUp Message, should there not be some punishment? I mean a rape or whipping scene or something?

Or at least an increase of my duty time/task number or the punishment score that seems to exist in the mod? (still trying to get the hang of it, sorry. might be its already there and I just dont see it)

[iggypop1]

7 minutes ago, Nymra said:

Small Feedback:

 

When I run away and when I m brought back via Blackfade and PopUp Message, should there not be some punishment? I mean a rape or whipping scene or something?

Or at least an increase of my duty time/task number or the punishment score that seems to exist in the mod? (still trying to get the hang of it, sorry. might be its already there and I just dont see it)

For testing i cranked all posibillities for punishment high as it could get and yes, saying no to cusomers gets you punished severely torture, x-cross whipping troll-rape.....via black fade screens so something went wrong in your game

[Nymra]

10 minutes ago, iggypop1 said:

For testing i cranked all posibillities for punishment high as it could get and yes, saying no to cusomers gets you punished severely torture, x-cross whipping troll-rape.....via black fade screens so something went wrong in your game

 

 

I got now punished, but only after the Time was up for my tasks. Is there no punishment happening DURING my remaining time left? 
in other words: when does punishment occur?

I got punished now in Solitude,...

- gag

- more clients to serve

- public rape (thane teleported me to the streets and yelled at a non-existent crowd. then nothing happened. I dont understand the punishment )

[Nymra]

can I see the actual punishment score somwhere? Debug does not seem to show it.

 

Also I click "Debug +1000 punish score" and nothing seems to happen. 

[iggypop1]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

 

I got now punished, but only after the Time was up for my tasks. Is there no punishment happening DURING my remaining time left? 
in other words: when does punishment occur?

I got punished now in Solitude,...

- gag

- more clients to serve

- public rape (thane teleported me to the streets and yelled at a non-existent crowd. then nothing happened. I dont understand the punishment )

Say no to clients and the guards wil come for you ....... Look under Punishment tab

[Visio Diaboli]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

Small Feedback:

 

When I run away and when I m brought back via Blackfade and PopUp Message, should there not be some punishment? I mean a rape or whipping scene or something?

Or at least an increase of my duty time/task number or the punishment score that seems to exist in the mod? (still trying to get the hang of it, sorry. might be its already there and I just dont see it)

There's currently no punishment for that, I didn't want to add another place it might bug out, so right now it just sends you back and maybe wastes time.

 

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

I got now punished, but only after the Time was up for my tasks. Is there no punishment happening DURING my remaining time left? 
in other words: when does punishment occur?

There's a periodic check to see if you're breaking any rules or your punishment score has exceeded a threshold without being punished, and then it'll try and send a guard to bring you in.

 

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

can I see the actual punishment score somwhere? Debug does not seem to show it.

 

Also I click "Debug +1000 punish score" and nothing seems to happen. 

MCM Current Status and Quotas I think, at the bottom

 

Edit: Solitude not having a crowd for Public Rape might be fixable by moving it to the Winking Skeever or something. I either need to rework how it draws spectators, or find ideal locations in each city

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, iggypop1 said:

Tried to force-enslave to Auction house while beeing Whore in Whiterun . While on the podium one of the auctioneers decided to make use of the whore

Assuming that "auction house" refers to Simple Slavery, that mod sends the dhlp-suspend mod event when the PC arrives in the slave pen, and dhlp-resume after you're sold.  If Public Whore were to listen for these events and block any approaches during the "suspend" period, it would be compatible with mods that send these events. 

[iggypop1]

14 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Assuming that "auction house" refers to Simple Slavery, that mod sends the dhlp-suspend mod event when the PC arrives in the slave pen, and dhlp-resume after you're sold.  If Public Whore were to listen for these events and block any approaches during the "suspend" period, it would be compatible with mods that send these events. 

It was a "Public Whore" event while PC was  suspended  on a wheel by SS++

[Lula Luv]

Is there a console command to tell the mod that you are Thane?
I started a new game because I threw out a few mods and now the mod doesn't want to recognize my Thane status. Dragonborn status still works, Thane does not ^^
And as long as I'm not a Thane according to the mod, apparently I can't ask the Jarl for work to start the introduction either.

And I still have one question:

What does this off-duty approach chance mean? Had it set to 50%, but I was never approached as long as I wasn't the public whore. I think I saw some dialogues in for this during the translation...

[Visio Diaboli]

27 minutes ago, GerdWagner said:

Is there a console command to tell the mod that you are Thane?
I started a new game because I threw out a few mods and now the mod doesn't want to recognize my Thane status. Dragonborn status still works, Thane does not ^^

Which hold was it for? Or just for any of them? There may be some tweaks necessary to the thane recognition.

 

27 minutes ago, GerdWagner said:

And as long as I'm not a Thane according to the mod, apparently I can't ask the Jarl for work to start the introduction either.

I think it might be two separate bugs at work there, since the two aren't really connected in CK. These are occurring in a new game, but weren't in an existing save?

 

37 minutes ago, GerdWagner said:

And I still have one question:

What does this off-duty approach chance mean? Had it set to 50%, but I was never approached as long as I wasn't the public whore. I think I saw some dialogues in for this during the translation...

The notion behind those is that people know you were a public whore, but it's either in a different hold or you aren't anymore and they're just forgetting or being assholes. So the prerequisite is that you were the public whore previously in your current hold, or that you are actively the public whore somewhere else.

[Lula Luv]

2 minutes ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Which hold was it for? Or just for any of them? There may be some tweaks necessary to the thane recognition.

 

I think it might be two separate bugs at work there, since the two aren't really connected in CK. These are occurring in a new game, but weren't in an existing save?

 

The notion behind those is that people know you were a public whore, but it's either in a different hold or you aren't anymore and they're just forgetting or being assholes. So the prerequisite is that you were the public whore previously in your current hold, or that you are actively the public whore somewhere else.

Whiterun 

This error has only occurred with a new game.

I like the idea, but it has never worked so far. In the last savegame I ran around in Whiterun with 50% (off-duty chance) for a long time after completing the task, but was never approached from this mod again.

[Piiska]

Noticed something small. When you choose the "Please just leave me alone..." dialogue option, the response from NPCs can sometimes be "I didn't walk all this way for nothing. Get to work." but nothing happens. I assume it was meant for a scene. Not sure if you are aware of that one.

 

And about the public rape punishment scene, how is it supposed to progress and work? Thane says you're a free fuck for a day and I tried to skip time but it was still going on until I skipped like 3 days. Perhaps waiting can cause it to bug out.

[Nymra]

28 minutes ago, Piiska said:

Noticed something small. When you choose the "Please just leave me alone..." dialogue option, the response from NPCs can sometimes be "I didn't walk all this way for nothing. Get to work." but nothing happens. I assume it was meant for a scene. Not sure if you are aware of that one.

 

And about the public rape punishment scene, how is it supposed to progress and work? Thane says you're a free fuck for a day and I tried to skip time but it was still going on until I skipped like 3 days. Perhaps waiting can cause it to bug out.

 

I believe you have to fullfill a full quota too during that punishment.
Can we disable punishments? I would like to choose the other ones over this 

[Piiska]

51 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

I believe you have to fullfill a full quota too during that punishment.
Can we disable punishments? I would like to choose the other ones over this 

If the setting works you can try to increase the threshold for public rape.

[Visio Diaboli]

1 hour ago, Piiska said:

Noticed something small. When you choose the "Please just leave me alone..." dialogue option, the response from NPCs can sometimes be "I didn't walk all this way for nothing. Get to work." but nothing happens. I assume it was meant for a scene. Not sure if you are aware of that one.

 

And about the public rape punishment scene, how is it supposed to progress and work? Thane says you're a free fuck for a day and I tried to skip time but it was still going on until I skipped like 3 days. Perhaps waiting can cause it to bug out.

I may have just forgot the sexlab call in the first one.

 

Public Rape goes through 10 people before continuing I think, the time it takes isn't considered

 

 

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

I believe you have to fullfill a full quota too during that punishment.
Can we disable punishments? I would like to choose the other ones over this 

Disabling certain scenes was a thing I just forgot about but it should be possible in a later version

[Nymra]

45 minutes ago, Piiska said:

If the setting works you can try to increase the threshold for public rape.

 

good idea, i ll give it a try!

[blahity]

Trying out the mod and really enjoying it a lot even if its a tad buggy right now. Been waiting for a mod like this to pop up for awhile and am really impressed with how good it is at such an early stage!

Just a few questions/suggestions/bugs I've noticed:

• I'm noticing a lot of forcegreet problems from the guards in Whiterun, they just don't seem to notice when your PC has become the City Whore and will continue to force greet you and send you back to the Thane to start the quest over and over.
• The MCM option "Chance client won't pay" that's available if you don't want your character handling gold is actually a chance that they will pay. As in setting it to 20% means that there's a 20% they will pay the thane and not a 20% chance they won't pay the thane. The wording in the MCM made it seem different and it may want to be clearer.
• Sometimes when choosing any option other than "Yes sir" or "Yes miss" I get an error that says essentially "no client found"
• Will you be adding additional dialogue when people force greet and reply to your answer? Right now there's not a lot of variety and I feel like we see all the responses fairly early on during our first "City Job".
• Will there be a system in place eventually for 3-5 person scenes? It could help speed the process along and let us see some of the animations we don't get to see to often.
• The Canine scene worked and I didn't experience any bugs with it, any thoughts on including different creatures? (Horses, wolves, goats, skeevers, etc. from citizens, maybe horses, armored trolls, giants, etc from guards that approach PC) Would add some nice variety for people who enjoy those options.

On the whole this is a really promising mod and am excited to see it develop. Keep up the great work!

[Aemon85]

Seen similar bugs posted already, but in my game the guards are RELENTLESS about trying to make the PC visit the Thane. In a SL scene? Forcegreet. Already accepted the PW task? Forcegreet. In prison via POP? Forcegreet. Absolutely nothing stops them once the SLSF threshold is met. And it's relentless every few seconds in town.

[iggypop1]

 @Visio Diaboli

Maybe its worth to mention SD as a soft requirement, or the mod should detect if its installed. I havent SD in my game but got bought free from CityWhoreContract to be  a personal slave whore(SD) for an NPC

 

I did the quota in Whiterun and got free from whoring-contract, went to Solitude became CityWhore, but no-one approaches ??! My PC have to be active  no NPC approaches!!

 

Maybe in the future....it could be nice if the whore status was recognized by NPCs via tatoo/collar (as in DD or RadiantProstitution) not shure if its possible with the tatoo

[Kingofthenorth]

Hello,

I got also the already mentionned bug :

I started a new game with alternate start and ccas, got sold with simple slavery to public whore in Dawnstar, and the game is getting good, I'm progressing over the quest. However the fame/quest has a bug and I'm send over and over to the thane. My character get also send in Falkreath to be fucked in public while the quest was in dawnstar.
 A detail : my character didn't started the dragonborn quest yet and is already called "dragonborn".
 
 The mod idea is great however.