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Would you consider to make the bounty quests sexual ? they come from the jarl and would be logical to send the city whore to calm down dragons, giants and bandits.......

 

 

please simply slavery choose destination in next update,  winterhold is so cold.......

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8 hours ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

Have an interesting bug with the latest version, a box with "0 and ok" pops up every few seconds in certain scenes. Not sure if reporting this helps at all (since you're already doing some bugfixes for said scenes), but figured I'd mention it.

It does that in the function that marks you as eligible, and I forgot to take it out. So I have no idea why it's getting called in punishment scenes. Did you by any chance exceed the Heroic Fame threshold? Because I just found a few erroneous lines that are checking it in the wrong place.

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7 hours ago, GerdWagner said:

Have followed your instructions for the update. Save, Uninstall, Load, Save, Install, Load.

I was approached by a guard in Whiterun right after the new version was booted. I couldn't even get into the MCM at that point. Anyway, I joined him there and was taken to the Thane, there I canceled the dialogue with him and opened the MCM to increase the SLSF limit, in the hope that they would then not pursue me further. After that I walked towards the door. On the way to the door I was approached a few times, but I canceled everything. Before reaching the door I stopped and let it happen. I was then declared a Publik Whore as normal, but then one guard after the other came and repeated the procedure. 
After that, when I was done and came back at a later time, another guard came to me and wanted to take me to the Thane again.
But then I killed him via console and since then nothing has happened :D
Had the feeling that there were about five guards at the end and they all got this order to take me to the Thane and every single guard was eager to carry it out. Even if a fellow had already done it.

Was it throwing up the "0" messageboxes? Maybe the hero fame bug but still not sure what it's doing.

 

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Would you consider to make the bounty quests sexual ? they come from the jarl and would be logical to send the city whore to calm down dragons, giants and bandits.......

 

 

please simply slavery choose destination in next update,  winterhold is so cold.......

Those seem like a good thing to include.

Selective SS++ should be in the next update

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1 hour ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Was it throwing up the "0" messageboxes? Maybe the hero fame bug but still not sure what it's doing.

 

Those seem like a good thing to include.

Selective SS++ should be in the next update

that would be great. please dont forget it.

 

 

for the german translator : äüö sehen komisch aus, immer nur ein grosses Ä mit einem ql dahinter usw.

generally about german translations : german is a mental language, english an emotional. it is nearly impossible to get  that feeling for the dirty english sex in german language. and often we simply dont have a word for it.

 

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5 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Would you consider to make the bounty quests sexual ? they come from the jarl and would be logical to send the city whore to calm down dragons, giants and bandits.......

It could be cool if couriers would deliver you a "decree" from the Jarl that added a quest while out in the wild. No escaping your duty once you've been named the Public's Whore. Then after you report the mission success to the Hold's Thane for a reward they issue a public announcement to "keep the community informed" by thoroughly detailing your great success. Maybe even have a time limit option.

 

"Our Public Whore was able to broker peace with the Giants by offering them to use her body as they wish. Her dedication to the Hold by valiantly volunteering her body for many, many repeated uses by the Giants in all of her holes is a great deed that should be shared with all! Spread the word to every Hold about (PC)'s selfless deed!"

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1 hour ago, Visio Diaboli said:

It does that in the function that marks you as eligible, and I forgot to take it out. So I have no idea why it's getting called in punishment scenes. Did you by any chance exceed the Heroic Fame threshold? Because I just found a few erroneous lines that are checking it in the wrong place.

Definitely, my current save basically has all maingame quests completed. (I however always go back on saves before new mods are installed to always ensure new updates are tried 'fresh'.)

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I can understand that you dont want to take over RP. I think however that looking into the Code how certain thinks have been solved would help. Especially the forcegreeting, or the issue of Guards keeping  pestering you when you already the public whore.  I dont understand why People pronounce RP a mess. For me it works and is on of the few mods that never made any major Problems. Either in SE or LE.

 

I also have a major Problem with some of the assumptions you made for the Mod. I cant understand how the DRAGONBORN who basically single handed stopped Alduin and the Vampires can be made to do anything against her will. ( You will have done a least those Quest to get to 700 Fame ). In Riften that would mean in my Game Imperial Guards that have fought with the Dragonborn in the Civilwar and  she is after all a Legate. Sound stupid to me. I think the only way she could become Public Whore by Volunteering.

 

I also dont like all the Rape and other Stuff, and hoped that the Mod would move in a different Direction.

 

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, secondseason said:

I also have a major Problem with some of the assumptions you made for the Mod. I cant understand how the DRAGONBORN who basically single handed stopped Alduin and the Vampires can be made to do anything against her will. ( You will have done a least those Quest to get to 700 Fame ). In Riften that would mean in my Game Imperial Guards that have fought with the Dragonborn in the Civilwar and  she is after all a Legate. Sound stupid to me. I think the only way she could become Public Whore by Volunteering.

 

I also dont like all the Rape and other Stuff, and hoped that the Mod would move in a different Direction.

Well obviously realism went out the window at the start. If I designed the mod around a canonical endgame dragonborn, you'd be left with the choices to volunteer or successfully resist. And at that point you're indeed better off using Radiant Prostitution.

 

But there's precedence for assumptions like that, established by several mods on here, so I don't feel inclined to significantly change direction in that regard, apart from maybe adding a few additional options and interactions. Honestly, I wouldn't suggest using PW if it breaks your immersion. It's designed for a specific fantasy, and it's not going to fit every playstyle.

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21 minutes ago, secondseason said:

I cant understand how the DRAGONBORN who basically single handed stopped Alduin and the Vampires can be made to do anything against her will.

It's called society. You could kill practically everybody in the city after stealing a sweetroll instead of paying the fine, yet you do not do that because you want to interact with the NPCs in Skyrim's society. The same threat would apply here. If you refuse, you would have to live as a wildling. Unless you are willing to stay away from all NPCs to protect your dignity, you will have to do what the Jarl says because you live in his hold. There's actually nothing stopping you from just accepting the job and leaving the hold and never returning. You probably don't want to do that though because chances are you'll want to deal with that hold in the future. So you have to suck it up and fulfill the demands of the Jarl. Not everything is about physical power and violence, this is a case of political power being asserted against you.

 

25 minutes ago, secondseason said:

In Riften that would mean in my Game Imperial Guards that have fought with the Dragonborn in the Civilwar and  she is after all a Legate. Sound stupid to me.

Soldiers take orders, they don't do what they want. They enforce the Jarl's authority. In the case of civil war soldiers being guards, one could simply make the assumption that the Imperial Legion accepts the Jarl's decrees, which they probably do. So what if the PC is a Legate? The title in the case of the PC is mostly honorary. You do not get to lead any troops into battle, and the war is over. You're not a commander of a legion. You do not have any real political influence apart from a title in front of your name, and do not have any duties in the legion that would interfere with your new position in the hold.

32 minutes ago, secondseason said:

I also dont like all the Rape and other Stuff, and hoped that the Mod would move in a different Direction.

To me it just sounds like this mod isn't your cup of tea. And it doesn't have to be, I don't really understand why you're trying to push it into being a consensual mod. There's already plenty of those. What sets this mod apart is exactly the fact that it is focused on non-consent. You are forced to be the whore. You are forced to hand in the gold you earned through it. At the end you don't get any profit, you're just being used as a money printing toy. That's exactly the appeal of this mod. It's for players who enjoy non-consensual storytelling. I think you're just looking for a prostitution mod with a new touch.

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3 hours ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Was it throwing up the "0" messageboxes? Maybe the hero fame bug but still not sure what it's doing.

 

The zero box also appeared once right at the start.
 

The request was triggered because my SLSF fame was too high.

Stupid was just that apparently every guard there meant to bring me again to the Thane^^ The quest is in my quest log even directly 5x in a row, but at least all count as completed and the last I have fulfilled against payment.

I'll test it on the next restart to see if I can trigger the bug again.

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On 4/1/2021 at 3:40 PM, Visio Diaboli said:

There should be (if it's working right) a random event to whore out your follower instead; I found that to be the easiest follower interaction like that to include in this release.

is that one of the fixed scenes in the new version? in 1.0 i get a dialogue from npcs "is your follower a city whore too?" but the npc just walks by during talking and there is no scene.

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Really great mod, thank you!

Currently it is possible to just spam spacebar to get through clients quickly, perhaps you could make client orgasm a prerequisite to payment.

Also, bug report: I was sent to PW from Simple Slavery, and finishing the session did not trigger the eligibility timeout so I got forced into another session on my way out.

Bug report 2: The "Execution Threshold" slider in MCM only goes from 0 to 1.

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She never does a blowjob........

  .....................tell me the secret how ...........                   (Chapter 2 and 3  "and nobody noticed it !" and "did i miss something ?"  )

 

 

sorry for megaposting but i am busy getting the basics functional

you got about three major ways how to handlle that like these mods do:

 

cursed loot solicitation:  a magic divide between oral, vaginal, anal, unknown, but works somehow eveything gets his turn , money is not differentiated between the three  

 

tdf prostituition :  sliders in mcm how high the chance for each, oral, vaginal, anal, client dialogue what he wants. pc cannot change it.  money is not differentiated between the three, 

 

radiant prostitution : client dialogue what he wants, pc can offer something else or deny,  basic gold with mulitplier for oral, vaginal, anal, rape

 

my favor : tdf prostitution sliders and radiant prostitution dialogues, money multipliers and home visits and cursed loot threesomes ........shrug

 

 

edit from secret service : yes we got the secret:  you need code machine S.L.A.T.E. give all blowjob animations the tag vaginal -- hahaaaa--  omg stone age

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Been testing 1.02

 

1. way less "0 - ok" popups, few when I first load a save (I believe I'm getting one for every city on first load), one sometimes when I first enter a city. Seems to have been completely fixed for punishment scenes. ?

 

2. when first made the PW, choosing "No I will not" when someone comes upto you *seems to* block any further people coming up to talk to you permanently in that specific city (becoming the PW if a different city allows npcs to be instigators again in the new city).
 

3. Once made the PW, it seems you are required to sleep with someone once, before things like 'noticing you have weapons when thats not allowed' happens for the guards, otherwise (it seems like) they just ignore it (might be a variable gets set?).  This also may effect if people come upto you on their own aswell. I'll need to test more (see if having the PC being the instigator reliably fixes/resets 2)

 

 

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Edit: Yeah.. not sure why but if NPCs are ignoring the PC, the PC being the instigator for one act seems to fix it (for awhile at-least? Need to test more) (I'll look into this further.)

 

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6 hours ago, Dideldidumm said:

is that one of the fixed scenes in the new version? in 1.0 i get a dialogue from npcs "is your follower a city whore too?" but the npc just walks by during talking and there is no scene.

I didn't tweak that one yet so if it's broken in 1.0 it's likely broken in all of them.

 

5 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

Can I start the whiterun quest when i did solitude befor? Baalgruuf has no dialogue.
 

It should be possible but that one seems to bug out on new games. I suppose it's something to do with how the quest is initialized.

 

4 hours ago, ObedientCat said:

Currently it is possible to just spam spacebar to get through clients quickly, perhaps you could make client orgasm a prerequisite to payment.

It should be possible to add an option for it, since I think Sexlab sends orgasm events. I'll keep it in mind, though unfortunately it's probably a lower priority among the other things on the TO-DO list right now.

 

3 hours ago, shiagwen said:

She never does a blowjob........

  .....................tell me the secret how ........... 

I don't pass any specific keywords into the Sexlab call but I also need to run a few more approaches to gather a better sample size. It may be worth manually ensuring that a certain percentage gets allocated to any given type until I can implement a more elegant solution.

 

2 hours ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

1. way less "0 - ok" popups, few when I first load a save (I believe I'm getting one for every city on first load), one sometimes when I first enter a city. Seems to have been completely fixed for punishment scenes. ?

One of the only things more concerning than something not working when it should, is it working when it shouldn't. I don't believe 1.0.2 should have fixed that but maybe I'm tripping.

 

2 hours ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

2. when first made the PW, choosing "No I will not" when someone comes upto you *seems to* block any further people coming up to talk to you permanently in that specific city (becoming the PW if a different city allows npcs to be instigators again in the new city).

I see. Turns out one of my requirements for setting the approach loop state from "being approached" to "cooldown" was that the player must be active in a Sexlab animation. The intent was to delay the cooldown until sex ended, but I have "is in Sexlab animation" as opposed to "is *not* in Sexlab animation.

 

2 hours ago, Lilzt3hcat said:

3. Once made the PW, it seems you are required to sleep with someone once, before things like 'noticing you have weapons when thats not allowed' happens for the guards, otherwise (it seems like) they just ignore it (might be a variable gets set?).  This also may effect if people come upto you on their own aswell. I'll need to test more (see if having the PC being the instigator reliably fixes/resets 2)

What I suspect is happening is the same thing as 2 - guard approaches are prevented while the player is being approached, and as long as the loop isn't resetting it's treating it like an approach is running.

 

 

2 hours ago, xyzxyz said:

The reported citizen count doesn't change. It's always (0/x)

The quest log should update when you actually turn in gold. If it doesn't then then I'm not immediately sure.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Visio Diaboli said:

One of the only things more concerning than something not working when it should, is it working when it shouldn't. I don't believe 1.0.2 should have fixed that but maybe I'm tripping.

Ok, yeah that's really weird lol. I'm using the same save that was before I tested 1.01 as with 1.02 (So any other changes should be non-existent) and yeah, I didn't have the "0/ok" in punishment scenes anymore and it seems like less in general (the latter might just be a placebo effect).

 

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Is anyone experiencing force-greet loops still? As in you have sex with the client and then immediately after they demand sex again? I cleaned up the code around it a bit but I'm not too confident I fixed that one, so any feedback on that helps.

I'm no longer getting them from clients *but* whomever the first guard in town to ask me to meet the thane *will* keep asking anytime I get close enough to them even if I already have the PW quest ongoing (only seems to stop once the quest is completed).

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1 hour ago, Visio Diaboli said:

Is anyone experiencing force-greet loops still? As in you have sex with the client and then immediately after they demand sex again? I cleaned up the code around it a bit but I'm not too confident I fixed that one, so any feedback on that helps.

the repeating force greeting loop that's really killing me is the guards escorting me to the Whiterun thane.

 

Even after starting PW after talking to the thane, the guard still runs to me and says they need to escort me.

I get stuck teleporting back to the thane with the pop up messages detailing the escort endlessly.

even resetting myself to make myself ineligible for PW still causes the guard to continue escorting. (only after the guard has been set to escort me. does not occur while ineligible.)

Even funnier when the guard in question in in the keep. the guard will immediately talk to me after leaving conversation with the thane to 'escort me' while I'm still standing in front of the thane after starting PW.

Quitting dialog without selecting anything causes the guard to say "oh, ok then" or something like that before chasing me and repeating the escort dialog. so nothing I did could get the guard to stop.

 

not entirely sure if this occurs in other cities as I haven't tested outside whiterun.

 

TLDR; escort guard endlessly brings up escort dialog no matter what, even after complying and becoming PW. (doesn't happen if I was ineligible and force my state into PW immediately, skipping eligible state.)

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