Prison Overhaul

[grifterrik]

I've been trying to work out a problem with Prison Overhaul for the last couple of days.

 

I hadn't touched Skyrim in about 2 months, and before I left it I downloaded Prison Overhaul and spent an evening being whipped in the Windhelm jail.  I think that was version 4? (I won't swear to it though, and I deleted the old one yesterday).  I actually was looking for a Prison mod at the time because the vanilla prison system refused to work for me.  Guards would start to arrest me, and then when I agreed to not resist they would end the conversation and walk away.   Anyway...

 

Came back to Skyrim, saw this was updated and grabbed the newest version.  Skyrim is updated as is SKSE and ZazAP and SkyUI (not sure if that one is necessary) all to the latest.  Even Fuz is updated.

 

So I get myself a bounty in Whiterun (500g in case it matters) and a guard says "Hey, I know you..." and all that.  I agree to go to prison and.... (this is the ironic part that I found quite funny at first) I go to the vanilla jail!   No whippings, no being marched off, just teleported to jail.

 

So, I've tried moving load order around, disabling mods, etc, but I just can't get it to work.  If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it!

 

 

[grifterrik]

But i did run into another "soft" conflict when using sexisdefeated and Lovers comfort.

see, lovers comfort adds a health regen debuff after being raped, which happens with Defeated.. and so after multiple whippings + rapes, the regen is to low and the guard whips me to death 

 

Now, this isnt this mods fault or anything, its just one of those hilarious consequences of a lethal mismatch of mods.

But my idea was that, unless it is this mods idea that, sure, you might very well die in jail, adding a essential flag to the PC during the whipping might be a possibility (if not, I guess I could always open console and type TIM while imprisoned   )

 

 

I wonder if you throw Sanguine's Debauchery into the mix if the prison guard would then enslave you when your health approached 0 after beating you?   Could be quite the situation to find yourself in.

 

Actually, roleplay wise it could be fun!

[check]

 

But i did run into another "soft" conflict when using sexisdefeated and Lovers comfort.

see, lovers comfort adds a health regen debuff after being raped, which happens with Defeated.. and so after multiple whippings + rapes, the regen is to low and the guard whips me to death 

 

Now, this isnt this mods fault or anything, its just one of those hilarious consequences of a lethal mismatch of mods.

But my idea was that, unless it is this mods idea that, sure, you might very well die in jail, adding a essential flag to the PC during the whipping might be a possibility (if not, I guess I could always open console and type TIM while imprisoned   )

 

 

I wonder if you throw Sanguine's Debauchery into the mix if the prison guard would then enslave you when your health approached 0 after beating you?   Could be quite the situation to find yourself in.

 

Actually, roleplay wise it could be fun!

 

Well, I dont think the whiterun guards belong to any of the slaverfactions, so I dont think anything would happen   

[nooblet123]

Just tried this one out.

 

Apart from a minor conflict with a combat mod that adds bleeding to grave injuries (I was only level two, did not have a lot of Health, and the increased damage from SkyRe) the whipping killed me. But after disabling the Injury mod, it worked fine, even with SkyRes buffed damage..

 

No, the real issue was that while in the hanging position, there was no chains (I was totally cuffed and gagged while being marched to jail though)

So, uhm, are the chains removed or should i reinstall Zazresources and Animationpack?

 

edit: reinstalled the animationpack, and the chains returned, nvm 

 

 

But i did run into another "soft" conflict when using sexisdefeated and Lovers comfort.

see, lovers comfort adds a health regen debuff after being raped, which happens with Defeated.. and so after multiple whippings + rapes, the regen is to low and the guard whips me to death 

 

Now, this isnt this mods fault or anything, its just one of those hilarious consequences of a lethal mismatch of mods.

But my idea was that, unless it is this mods idea that, sure, you might very well die in jail, adding a essential flag to the PC during the whipping might be a possibility (if not, I guess I could always open console and type TIM while imprisoned   )

 

There shouldn't be any health regen in Skyrim anyway, unless you're Argonian?, a troll, a vampire, etc. :P

In XPO the whipping happens in non-combat mode and the dmg of the whip is 1 and I've never seen it do any damage. So it's some mod that you installed that's increasing the whip damage unless you have like 30 max health.

[xaz]

What is this?
This is a mod heavily inspired by Crime and Punishment... What that mod did was adds to the prison system in Skyrim by having your character marched bound and gagged to the prison.

A difference between this and CAP is that you're force followed to prison, so there's little room for getting away at the moment.

A rudimentary punishment scene has been added. Every 6h you rest/skip time/stay around in prison, a guard enters your cell and whips you.

Tweaks
If you get caught in, say, Ivarstead, it's a long way to Riften Jail. You can speed up the journey by typing in the console

set xpoFastForward to 1

If you want to make the whip marks last longer, you can tweak this in skyrim.ini. Under the section [display] add the following:

fDecalLifetime=300.0

Installation
This mod requires
ZazAnimationPack (latest version).

Unzip the archive into your Skyrim data folder (if you're feeling lucky), or use a mod manager (preferred).

Upgrading
If a clean save is not available. Write in the console:

stopquest xpoMainstartquest xpoMain

This should restart and repopulate the main quest and should fix most problems with upgrading. Make sure you're not currently arrested and not in jail and so on.

Uninstallation
Remove all files contained in the archive.

Bugs and future fixes

Future:
* Real punishment, stocks on the city square, public execution, whipping, etc.
* Bounty hunters

Bugs:
* Ai works generally poorly. Guard and/or you may freeze at unexpected times. Forcing the ai to do it's work does nothing except make it confused. Learn how to work the console. Sometimes force moving players and/or guards to expected destinations help progress scripts. Usually the progress by themselves, but the wait can be annoying.
* Player sometimes alternates between running and stopping when forced follow. Press "caps lock" or hold shift as a workaround.

I'm (of course) open to any suggestions for improvements on this mod.

Disclaimer
This is a WIP, and once you've installed this mod, it may leave traces behind in your save games. This may or may not crash your game at a later time. I try my best to make sure it plays nicely and uninstalls cleanly, but it's your job to keep your important saves safe.

 

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File Name: Prison Overhaul

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File Submitter: xaz

File Submitted: 09 Apr 2013

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[xaz]

Original topic:

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13622-prison-overhaul-2013-04-05/

 

Apparently a support topic is automatically created once a file upload is made.

[lighter1958]

Hi yes I did update Fuz Ro do'h still here is the problem. get arrested gag and bindings attached guard then stands there does nothing. I can't leave when I do it brings me back. I am by no means an expert I think it has something to do with a guard triggert but what do I know. Thanks for the repley. (sidenote: every time they do an upgrade on skyrim it sends my mods into orbit and the bugs come out of the woodwork)

[darkevilhum]

Hi yes I did update Fuz Ro do'h still here is the problem. get arrested gag and bindings attached guard then stands there does nothing. I can't leave when I do it brings me back. I am by no means an expert I think it has something to do with a guard triggert but what do I know. Thanks for the repley. (sidenote: every time they do an upgrade on skyrim it sends my mods into orbit and the bugs come out of the woodwork)

 

I have the same issue, cannot for the life of me figure it out, though If i had to guess i'd say it's either a compatability issue with another mod orr just certain timers in the mod. (FYI I installed Fuz Ro Do'h also but no changes or dialogue etc).

[bjornk]

I don't have Fuz and the latest version of XPO works very well. Had no problem with guards at all. Where exactly the guard got stuck? Outside or inside prison?

[JinZen]

Whiterun confirmed working ... Not sure about other holds though

[bjornk]

Whiterun confirmed working ... Not sure about other holds though

Yes, I have only tested in Whiterun as well.

[darkevilhum]

I don't have Fuz and the latest version of XPO works very well. Had no problem with guards at all. Where exactly the guard got stuck? Outside or inside prison?

 

For me it's always right outside the jail cell, im forced to walk to the guard but not into the cell and can't move. Or simply by the prisoner chests and stuck there.

 

I've gone and broken it even further, did a reinstall with all the latest files and now the mod just won't register in game. Whenever i choose the 'I submit, take me to jail' option, there is a pause, the guard approaches again asking me to submit/fight and then i get loaded into a prison cell (vanilla prison scenario im assuming).

[JinZen]

 

I don't have Fuz and the latest version of XPO works very well. Had no problem with guards at all. Where exactly the guard got stuck? Outside or inside prison?

 

For me it's always right outside the jail cell, im forced to walk to the guard but not into the cell and can't move. Or simply by the prisoner chests and stuck there.

 

I've gone and broken it even further, did a reinstall with all the latest files and now the mod just won't register in game. Whenever i choose the 'I submit, take me to jail' option, there is a pause, the guard approaches again asking me to submit/fight and then i get loaded into a prison cell (vanilla prison scenario im assuming).

 

Remove the old scripts in the folder as there is a BSA now

[darkevilhum]

 

 

I don't have Fuz and the latest version of XPO works very well. Had no problem with guards at all. Where exactly the guard got stuck? Outside or inside prison?

 

For me it's always right outside the jail cell, im forced to walk to the guard but not into the cell and can't move. Or simply by the prisoner chests and stuck there.

 

I've gone and broken it even further, did a reinstall with all the latest files and now the mod just won't register in game. Whenever i choose the 'I submit, take me to jail' option, there is a pause, the guard approaches again asking me to submit/fight and then i get loaded into a prison cell (vanilla prison scenario im assuming).

 

Remove the old scripts in the folder as there is a BSA now

 

Ahh, did not notice the difference, Thank you, with the reinstall and removing of old scripts It seems to be working as intended

[check]

There shouldn't be any health regen in Skyrim anyway, unless you're Argonian?, a troll, a vampire, etc. :P

In XPO the whipping happens in non-combat mode and the dmg of the whip is 1 and I've never seen it do any damage. So it's some mod that you installed that's increasing the whip damage unless you have like 30 max health.

 

Its T3nd0s Skyrim Redon total overhaul. Damage is buffed, but so is armors. A lot of attacks give temporary debuffs and bleed damage for instance.

 

Trust me, you can die from a whipping.. and my level 2 character had only 120-130 health to begin with.

 

Which is why it (SkyRe) works pretty bad with Paradise Halls slave mod for instance, as that one requires you to whip a Npc into submission. And you might accidentally kill them before they give up. (problem solved with the Submission inducing spell addon someone made)

 

 

But this is why I called it a "soft conflict" as it is caused by mods doing exactly what theyre supposed to do.

Anyway, I have already figured out a way to solve it with TIM ( I think, I guess I should test it later) so this was only my post to share some funny unforeseen consequences 

[WaxenFigure]

I wonder if you throw Sanguine's Debauchery into the mix if the prison guard would then enslave you when your health approached 0 after beating you?   Could be quite the situation to find yourself in.

 

Actually, roleplay wise it could be fun!

SD explicitly excludes guards from being slavers. Before that change it was funny to have the PC kneeling and nude just outside the entrance to the palace in Markarth waiting to get away or get fucked again by the guard on duty there.

[RockMic]

It is the idea of ​​being taken to the streets for a public punishment and really nice with the whole country watching while lash.

Can I also suggest that it would be nice to be brought to the police station and raped by the guards a little would not hurt, if not directly to jail between a whip and another.

Thank continue like this.

[JinZen]

 

 

 

I don't have Fuz and the latest version of XPO works very well. Had no problem with guards at all. Where exactly the guard got stuck? Outside or inside prison?

 

For me it's always right outside the jail cell, im forced to walk to the guard but not into the cell and can't move. Or simply by the prisoner chests and stuck there.

 

I've gone and broken it even further, did a reinstall with all the latest files and now the mod just won't register in game. Whenever i choose the 'I submit, take me to jail' option, there is a pause, the guard approaches again asking me to submit/fight and then i get loaded into a prison cell (vanilla prison scenario im assuming).

 

Remove the old scripts in the folder as there is a BSA now

 

Ahh, did not notice the difference, Thank you, with the reinstall and removing of old scripts It seems to be working as intended

 

Well you said you had some errors and had Fuz... I noticed that in the latest version there was no usage on Fuz as everything got told to me by console lines upcoming. Now I do like the idea of the Fuz style more as it adds to the realism but this way the mod does NOT work based on another mod... Which is quite good ...

 

As for your errors... The order goes like Default Skyrim Masters -> Secondary Masters -> BSA files -> Single files... In other words your single files were accessed last and had the old parts of the mod  

Result: Bugs

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If you need any ideas on how to expand the mod once you're done with it, might I suggest a "prisoner of war" mod?

 

Basically a mod that if you do the civil war arc of either faction, once you have done the Battle of Whiterun quest, the opposing faction would consider you a criminal and if you met them on the road, or get close to any of the holds, or their cities, they would attack you, but first give you an option to surrender or Bluff them with Speech, ("No I just 'found' this stormcloak armor, honest") or just straight out bribe them if they are Markath or Riften guards. They would then interrogate you for a number of days depending on your faction rank (similar to 1000 gold per faction rank if you were a criminal)

 

Now and then you would get the option to crack under torture and tell them all, and be freed, but this might have consequences..

 

[Dorikin]

Solitude seems to be working fine. And you guys already tried Whiterun, so I'm just gonna assume the other holds are working fine as well. I'm too lazy to check right now  .

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Solitude seems to be working fine. And you guys already tried Whiterun, so I'm just gonna assume the other holds are working fine as well. I'm too lazy to check right now  .

 

Tried out Markath. 

They took me straight to the Cidnha silver mines as per the forsworn conspiracy arc.

Its hard to avoid getting entangled in Margarets murder(attempt) once you enter the city and have eltrys run up to you immediately afterwards..

[SkatingJesus]

I tried the V.12 in solitude.

First, the guard told my PC she will rot in jail, and then nothing happened.

 

So, I read on this thread I should remove all previous scripts files, I did it, and Everything seems to be OK now, in Solitude!

 

I will have a look on the other cities this evening.

[lighter1958]

Hi again, I removed the old scripts did a reinstall this all on a new save and as before the guard says you'll rot in the dungeon and then binders and gag and he just stands there and this is in whiterun. One other thing the guard gets his torch again. Well did I miss something?

 

Thanks for your time

[mitiok18]

Hi xaz

 

 

Sorry for my English (translator) ....

I use the "Imps More Complex Needs", and I have a problem - being in prison 14 days without food and water for my character death))) ...
You could add to your daily diet a few bottles of water and a little more than bread and other more high-calorie food ...

Thank you for the good work

[xaz]

 

 

Solitude seems to be working fine. And you guys already tried Whiterun, so I'm just gonna assume the other holds are working fine as well. I'm too lazy to check right now  .

 

Tried out Markath. 

They took me straight to the Cidnha silver mines as per the forsworn conspiracy arc.

Its hard to avoid getting entangled in Margarets murder(attempt) once you enter the city and have eltrys run up to you immediately afterwards..

 

 

Right now I don't want to add Markarth to the equation, so that prison will use vanilla for now. If the other prisons are working you should be fine.