Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Lightsong]

So I am considering finally adding a defeat mod to my next playthrough, and I saw that there are a ton of options. I'm wondering which would play nicely with submissive lola and is the most stable. Also preferably with the option to toggle off creature defeats and some kind of configurable gold robbing. But most importantly I'm looking for which of the defeat options is least likely to break my game or cause conflicts/issues with lola.

[Hex Bolt]

17 minutes ago, Lightsong said:

I am considering finally adding a defeat mod to my next playthrough, and I saw that there are a ton of options. I'm wondering which would play nicely with submissive lola and is the most stable.

I've used SexLab Defeat without problems.  With regard to Submissive Lola conflicts, you should be okay.  A defeat won't end the enslavement.  Follower Slavery Mod excludes the owner from enslavement.  For the Simple Slavery defeat outcome, SLTR handles that by suspending its events and having the owner wait for you at the slave market if you get sent on from there to another enslavement mod.  When you get free of your other enslavement, meet your owner at the slave market and unsuspend the mod's events to continue as you were before.

[Lightsong]

20 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

I've used SexLab Defeat without problems.  With regard to Submissive Lola conflicts, you should be okay.  A defeat won't end the enslavement.  Follower Slavery Mod excludes the owner from enslavement.  For the Simple Slavery defeat outcome, SLTR handles that by suspending its events and having the owner wait for you at the slave market if you get sent on from there to another enslavement mod.  When you get free of your other enslavement, meet your owner at the slave market and unsuspend the mod's events to continue as you were before.

Ok thank you I appreciate it! This is the one right? I saw it was like the default just wasn't sure if it was still stable with mods like yours that were more updated so that's good to hear.

Do you happen to know if it will be compatible with 1.6.640 out of the box or will I need to find some patch or different version to install like with SoS?

[Hex Bolt]

23 minutes ago, Lightsong said:

This is the one right?

Yes, though if you prefer a more updated version, you might consider BaneMaster's.  I think Bane 5.3.6 is the most recent.  I've used both the original (Goubo's) and Bane's with good success.  Some players have had general problems with Defeat (unrelated to SLTR), but I think that's a function of how many mods a player has installed to modify factions, creature sex, ans so on.

 

28 minutes ago, Lightsong said:

Do you happen to know if it will be compatible with 1.6.640 out of the box

I'm on LE, so I don't know.  If you ask on the Defeat topic, I'm sure someone can tell you.

[Lightsong]

9 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Yes, though if you prefer a more updated version, you might consider BaneMaster's.  I think Bane 5.3.6 is the most recent.  I've used both the original (Goubo's) and Bane's with good success.  Some players have had general problems with Defeat (unrelated to SLTR), but I think that's a function of how many mods a player has installed to modify factions, creature sex, ans so on.

 

I'm on LE, so I don't know.  If you ask on the Defeat topic, I'm sure someone can tell you.

Since you used both would you recommend Bane 5.3.6 version over the 5.3.5? I did see on the 5.3.5 link it said to install fnis creature pack as a requirement. Do you know if it will still function fine if I don't, or alternatively if there is an option in the mcm to turn off creature defeats? I also saw on that Bane version link you provided that it says something about Dynamic Defeat LRG patch but didn't really describe it, should I download that also if using Bane?

 

Thank you again so much for the help and for making such a fantastic mod!

[Hex Bolt]

54 minutes ago, Lightsong said:

Since you used both would you recommend Bane 5.3.6 version over the 5.3.5?

We're really off topic now, but I'd recommend the Bane version for its bug fixes and not using the dynamic defeat patch on your first time with Defeat.  Creature assaults can be turned off in the MCM, so you wouldn't need their animations.  Other questions can best be answered on the Defeat mod topic.

[Lightsong]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

We're really off topic now, but I'd recommend the Bane version for its bug fixes and not using the dynamic defeat patch on your first time with Defeat.  Creature assaults can be turned off in the MCM, so you wouldn't need their animations.  Other questions can best be answered on the Defeat mod topic.

I apologize for going so off-topic, but I do appreciate your suggestions!

[garniu]

I'm sharing the thoughts.json that I made up if anybody is interested also if you have any interesting ideas I would kindly add them to my list.

This was made for an futanari Mistress.

 

Thoughts.json

Edited October 6, 2023 by garniu

[hiddenodl]

for some reason after starting the quest I ask about something unusual and after that it just restarts the quest. Can't seem to fix the issue

[Hex Bolt]

42 minutes ago, hiddenodl said:

for some reason after starting the quest I ask about something unusual and after that it just restarts the quest.

How does the quest "restart", and what exactly are you seeing?

[hiddenodl]

After completing the quest I can talk to the follower and it just has the generic options for followers like follow/stay, I need you to do something etc. Nothing modded but the mod pops up fine in the mcm. By restart I mean I complete guiding hand and it leads to nothing and the mcm just says to start the quest again.

[CaptainJ03]

10 minutes ago, hiddenodl said:

After completing the quest I can talk to the follower and it just has the generic options for followers like follow/stay, I need you to do something etc. Nothing modded but the mod pops up fine in the mcm. By restart I mean I complete guiding hand and it leads to nothing and the mcm just says to start the quest again.

Yes, that's perfectly fine.

After completing your contract (or just leaving if you had none) your former Mistress is just a pretty normal follower. If you want to submit again, you have to read the book another time, or klick the MCM option to start "A Strong Hand"

 

If you start that, and don't get the collar, you should write very thorougly what she said, and where it failed. Doing screenshots helps to remember the right words.

[Guest]

Is there a no strip item function to allow jewelry while eye candy is in effect? It would be really cool as my Lola wears the non enchanted jewelry listed below.

Mistress Lydia just gave PC permission to wear what she wanted, but when items were equipped there was a warning (upper left on screen) that the items were not allowed, Naked in Home and Inns is set in the MCM.

Thanks

 

Items credits- Immersive jewelry, DX Fetish Fashion, C5Kev's Sexy Assassin, Sharkish Piercings, Ordinary Girly Nails, KS Jewelry.

 

Edited October 7, 2023 by Sir Bron

[Hex Bolt]

5 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

Is there a no strip item function to allow jewelry while eye candy is in effect?

Jewelry is allowed.  Clothing & armor are not.  If you're triggering a rule violation, something that you have equipped is functioning as clothing or armor.  It's probably something simple, like earrings that incorrectly have a clothing keyword.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Jewelry is allowed.  Clothing & armor are not.  If you're triggering a rule violation, something that you have equipped is functioning as clothing or armor.  It's probably something simple, like earrings that incorrectly have a clothing keyword.

Is there a way to change those keywords that isn't too complex?

[Psalam]

Is anyone aware of an interaction between SLtR and iSUM (requirement for Sanguine's Debauchery)? It seems that whenever I have an animation with my master through SLtR the keyboard is switched to iSUM's. Unfortunately, the only way I know to resolve this is to save the game and restart. The problem with the iSUM keyboard is that I can't change my spells or access my inventory. I apologize if this has already been asked and answered.

 

For reference: the animations are SexLab and whipping. SexLab animations through other mods do not do this. Neither do whipping animations (such as from Prison Overhaul Patched).

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Sir Bron said:

Is there a way to change those keywords that isn't too complex?

First, narrow down which item (or items) is the problem by unequipping all jewelry and adding them back one at a time to see if there's a violation (give SLTR about 15 seconds to detect a disallowed item).  Then, use a mod editing tool like TES5Edit/SSEEdit to modify an offending item.  Find it listed under Armor in the editor and scroll through its properties to find its keywords and delete any for clothing or armor.

 

23 minutes ago, Psalam said:

For reference: the animations are SexLab and whipping. SexLab animations through other mods do not do this.

For what it's worth, this mod uses standard SexLab functions for sex, and ZAP for whipping.  (Spanking and vampire feeding animations are little more involved since they restrict stripping, but you didn't mention those specifically.)  I don't use iSUM so, unfortunately, I can't comment on what it might be doing, but SLTR isn't doing anything usual with sex animations.

[Herowynne]

4 hours ago, Psalam said:

Is anyone aware of an interaction between SLtR and iSUM (requirement for Sanguine's Debauchery)? It seems that whenever I have an animation with my master through SLtR the keyboard is switched to iSUM's. Unfortunately, the only way I know to resolve this is to save the game and restart. The problem with the iSUM keyboard is that I can't change my spells or access my inventory. I apologize if this has already been asked and answered.

 

For reference: the animations are SexLab and whipping. SexLab animations through other mods do not do this. Neither do whipping animations (such as from Prison Overhaul Patched).

 

I also made this comment in the SUM support thread, and I am repeating it here for reference.

 

I am not sure what may be causing your problem, but I can offer the following experience...

 

I have used both SLTR and SUM in the same load order for many years, but I always have SUM's key bindings turned off:

 

MCM -> Skyrim Utility -> Setup
Scroll down to the "Hotkeys" section on left side.
Then on the right side, click "Unbind All Keys Mapping"

 

[Sabertoothtigerz89]

On 10/1/2023 at 1:28 PM, akssi said:

Smart followers are not compatible

except sofia, she works fine.

[akssi]

Sir, it’s just a small suggestion. You can consider whether to adopt it.
Is it possible to add one?
When Lola asks the Master for sex, the Master will think of a new way to play, and then Lola will be gagged and blindfolded by the Master.
Just like Lola is blindfolded when she is whipped, it is a kind of fun.
When Lola is gagged and blindfolded, Lola will become very helpless and can only be at the mercy of the Master. Lola's helpless whine due to being gagged during sex can stimulate the Master's desire even more.
As for Lola who is blindfolded, her other senses will become more sensitive and she can be immersed in sex with the Master.
At the end of the sex, the master will ask Lola how she felt about the lovemaking experience. If Lola expresses that she likes it, she will get additional obedience points. If she expresses that she does not like it, she will be scolded by the master (you may not be punished, and the obedience score may or may not be lowered).

Edited October 14, 2023 by akssi

[Guest]

Hi! I kind of forgot to post on this one. I had never done a DD required mod before and really wanted to play through a long story with this.....so I bit and did it.

 

Thanks for doing this. I did enjoy myself pleasantly in this. Some of the more extreme stuff i did not like but I get it.....part of the experience.....and I am definitely okay with Non-Consensual sex (Rape is both too strong and no descriptive enough). Because of who I am I got to 100 far too quickly. Hahaha. I ended up having to force myself to be a 'Bad Girl' to experience more of the mod. I did use this with Simple Slavery ++ and was purchased a few times which felt interesting. Radiant Prostitution (new one) also worked well and is part of my normal load.

 

All of the mods required by this made my game crash more, especially in the door transfers in the larger cities. Per your post it could be DD that is causing this. In my normal load without Lola I crash very rarely.....maybe once if I play more than 6hrs without restarting Skyrim SE. Super stable and very realistic.

 

Anyhooooo.....

 

Thank you for updating/making this great mod. Appreciation for the story and enjoyment.

[Hex Bolt]

4 minutes ago, krixost said:

All of the mods required by this made my game crash more, especially in the door transfers in the larger cities. Per your post it could be DD that is causing this. In my normal load without Lola I crash very rarely.

I'll answer here rather than your other topic, since my comments are more about this mod rather than this category of mods.

 

I didn't mean to imply that DD is unstable.  It's not.  It's quite stable for me, even on LE.  I think when players have problems with it, that's because that have a fair number of NPCs wearing devious devices.  If it's just your character wearing them (which is all that this mod requires), you shouldn't have any trouble.  If you don't have Crash Fixes installed, though, you should.  It really helps game stability.

 

Regarding your other comment about "crazy shit", you didn't go into detail.  Obviously, that's subjective and a player might not enjoy what a mod offers.  If it helps, this mod's most extreme content is whipping, spanking, nudity, and public humiliation.  (Prostitution and a single instance of bestiality are completely optional.)  There is rough sex but no rape.  Lola is never seriously harmed or marred (no branding or tattoos).

 

There are 3 third-party add-ons that do add more extreme content.  If you installed them, that might be the source of "crazy shit".  I encourage players to try the base mod first, then selectively add any add-ons that offer things they want.  Each add-on has a different vision and adds its own distinctive flavor.  Using all of them might be like adding tomato sauce, mustard, and peanut butter on your meal.

 

21 minutes ago, krixost said:

Because of who I am I got to 100 far too quickly.

If you ever try the mod again, these settings can help keep score from increasing too fast:

 

Submission growth rate 50%.

Submission decrease rate 100%.

Daily score decay 5 (or even 10).

Offer service cooldown 2 hours.

Boredom delay 8.

Boredom score penalty 1.

Hard to please owner 10% (on the Roleplay page).

 

Setting the daily service quota high, especially with a large random component, can result in failures and score loss from time to time.

[Guest]

I am not pointing fingers as well. Just that going from super stable then layering these requirements from Lola on top of what I had sent me into crash land often. I got through it though and loved doing this. I more submissive in real and it is fitting.

 

Thank you. I may try the mod again in the future. And yeah I think it was something else besides Lola that was choosing some things but no idea what. I don't have any extreme stuff in just the regular SexLab and mostly Billyy Anims (Human, Invis Furniture, just a few of the 'Dungeon Props' from the furniture) I also like Leito but don't mix with Billyy....either or. So no idea what would do it. Maybe something with the Populated series and OBIS? They add a lot of NPCs which are ALL randomly dressing when they spawn in. Maybe. *shrugs*

 

I think I would likely pull out (I do all mod installs manually) with WinMerge anything that might go overboard with Lola then do this again. Lovely mod. Might be worth the effort to make two separate installs. Easy to back up Skyrim too....I may do this. I will try those settings as well. 

[akssi]

9 hours ago, krixost said:

我也不指手画脚。只是从超级稳定开始，然后将 Lola 的这些要求分层到我经常让我陷入崩溃之地的要求之上。不过我还是挺过来了并且喜欢这样做。我实际上更顺从，这是合适的。

 

谢谢。我将来可能会再次尝试该模组。是的，我认为除了 Lola 之外，还有其他东西在选择一些东西，但不知道是什么。我在常规的 SexLab 中没有任何极端的东西，主要是 Billyy 动画（人类、Invis 家具，只是家具中的一些“地下城道具”）我也喜欢 Leito，但不与 Billyy 混在一起…… 。两者任一。所以不知道会做什么。也许与《人口稠密》系列和《OBIS》有关？他们添加了很多 NPC，这些 NPC 在生成时都是随机着装的。也许吧。*耸耸肩*

 

我想我可能会用 WinMerge 退出（我手动安装所有 mod）任何可能与 Lola 过度的东西，然后再做一次。可爱的模组。可能值得花费精力进行两次单独的安装。备份《天际》也很容易......我可以这样做。我也会尝试这些设置。 

Change to SE, LE's 32-bit version is too backward.

[akssi]

On 2023/10/15 at AM3点57分, HexBolt8 said:

我会在这里回答而不是你的其他主题，因为我的评论更多是关于这个模组而不是这一类模组。

 

我并不是想暗示DD不稳定。它不是。即使在 LE 上，它对我来说也相当稳定。我认为当玩家遇到问题时，那是因为有相当多的 NPC 穿着不正当的设备。如果只是你的角色佩戴它们（这就是这个模组所需要的），你应该不会有任何麻烦。不过，如果您没有安装崩溃修复程序，那么您应该安装。它确实有助于游戏稳定性。

 

关于您关于“疯狂狗屎”的其他评论，您没有详细说明。显然，这是主观的，玩家可能不喜欢模组提供的内容。如果有帮助的话，这个模组最极端的内容是鞭打、打屁股、裸体和公开羞辱。（卖淫和一次兽交是完全可选的。）有粗暴的性行为，但没有强奸。洛拉从未受到严重伤害或损坏（没有烙印或纹身）。

 

有 3 个第三方附加组件 确实 添加了更多极端内容。如果你安装了它们，那可能就是“疯狂的狗屎”的根源。我鼓励玩家首先尝试基本模组，然后有选择地添加提供他们想要的东西的任何附加组件。每个附加组件都有不同的愿景，并添加了自己独特的风味。使用所有这些可能就像在膳食中添加番茄酱、芥末和花生酱一样。

 

如果您再次尝试该模组，这些设置可以帮助防止分数增加得太快：

 

提交增长率50%。

提交减少率100%。

每日分数衰减 5（甚至 10）。

提供服务冷却时间2小时。

无聊拖延8.

无聊得分罚1。

难以取悦所有者 10%（在角色扮演页面上）。

 

将每日服务配额设置得较高，尤其是随机组件较大时，可能会不时导致失败和分数损失。

I have a question, is there a code to enable all tasks for Submissive Lola?
  For example, I want to start the task (The Naughty Nymph)
Just press ~ to open the console and enter SetStage vkjBardPlay 0 to open (The Naughty Nymph), and then the Master will talk to lola and issue task commands.
But other small tasks such as lola's obedience score reaching 50, Master will wear Piercings for lola.
There is also vkjSexDemanded, the shameful conversation between Master and lola and the final sex task
I can't find the activation code for these small tasks in xTranslator
Can you give me a copy of the lola full task enablement code?
Some missions are really difficult to trigger, and I really want to experience them.