Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Guest]

5 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

This mod only uses the one gag that's selected in the MCM, so I don't think what you describe is from here, but you should be able to find the culprit by moving all your items into a container, then using player.inv in the console to see what non transferrable items you have left.  Devious devices will have a blank name.  Ignore xx040F0C, though.  That's the device hider.  The ID should point you to the mod and item.

 

This problem of invisible DD items was more common before DD 5.2, but that version now handles the most usual causes.

  

Kalmah's extension has not kept up with this mod.  Use it with caution.

Here is my player.inv  take a look please. I could not drop the collar but have nothing else in the inventory except a quest related note.

If Kalmah"s mod is questionable maybe it should not be listed as an add-on? Would save issues with dummies like me.

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Edited October 1, 2023 by Sir Bron

[mangalo]

It's been said that Inigo is incompatible with this mod, but what is currently the condition preventing the dialogue to appear ?

 

The same goes for 3DNPC followers, finding a good male follower is hard

Edited October 1, 2023 by mangalo

[akssi]

2 hours ago, mangalo said:

据说 Inigo 与此 mod 不兼容，但目前阻止对话出现的条件是什么？

 

3DNPC粉丝也是如此，找一个好的男粉丝很难

Smart followers are not compatible

[akssi]

3 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

这是我的player.inv，请看一下。我无法放下项圈，但除了与任务相关的说明之外，库存中没有其他任何东西。

如果 Kalmah 的 mod 有问题，也许它不应该被列为附加组件？这样可以避免像我这样的傻瓜遇到的问题。

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Then turn off (Restless Slave)
Restless Slave will let your lola be replaced collar
Ask your master to change the collar for you and see if it helps.
Because my Devious Devices use OAR mode, the (Pack Slave) (Restless Slave) bonding is invalid, but the (City Bondage) type can still be used.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, mangalo said:

It's been said that Inigo is incompatible with this mod, but what is currently the condition preventing the dialogue to appear ?

 

The same goes for 3DNPC followers, finding a good male follower is hard

Ok, don't have that one or the Smart Followers as I despise having Followers, but out of desperation to try to clear the task, I went to Hulda at the Bannered Mare and asked to do some "Work" and while doing that work, the task was cleared.

Thank You all for trying to help me, I really do not want to uninstall all and reinstall but I may have to. Still doing the playthrough to try and better understand what's going on.

I haven't had this issue before, usually I do not have to go to the bars to fulfill my whore duties, just work till done.

I did try  ReSaver and had 2 scripts that needed removed, did not help.

[Seeker999]

3 hours ago, mangalo said:

It's been said that Inigo is incompatible with this mod, but what is currently the condition preventing the dialogue to appear ?

 

The same goes for 3DNPC followers, finding a good male follower is hard

I agree, a good man is hard to find, ahem, haha, ahem.

To your point, followers like Inigo, Kaidan, and presumably the 3DNPC followers have their own AI. They don't use the vanilla game AI or follower factions. Sub-Lola, Dev. Followers Continued, etc. work w/ vanilla followers or modded followers that use the vanilla AI.

If you try to add Inigo, for example, to vanilla follower factions you risk breaking him.

I did try with Kaidan on a previous pt. FWIW I had Kaidan, Lucien, Inigo and a (I think) vanilla follower with me. No follower framework needed with this group. Anyway, I already had Kaidan traveling with me and no plans to dismiss him. IIRC I added him to the 'current follower faction'. It worked. As far as I know I didn't miss anything. If you still want to try with Inigo I suggest you do the following:

• hire him
• travel around with him awhile
• open console and type 'savegame InigoPreSubLola' (or whatever descriptive name you want to use, but should probably be no spaces)
• when it finishes saving, then you can select Inigo by clicking on him (still in console) or PRID his reference number. Type 'addfac

  	CurrentFollowerFaction' or 'addfac 0005C84E'. THIS MAY NOT WORK!!!! You may not find out right away that Inigo isn't working as he should. At least you'll know exactly what save to go back to.   If you have any of the comment mods installed - SLSF Fame comments, for example - Inigo will have access to those dialogs. And he'll react when you're naked. Without you doing anything.

[akssi]

46 minutes ago, Seeker999 said:

我同意，好男人难找，咳咳，咳咳。

就你的观点而言，像 Inigo、Kaidan 这样的追随者，大概还有 3DNPC 追随者都有自己的 AI。他们不使用普通游戏人工智能或追随者派系。萨·洛拉，开发者。追随者继续等与香草追随者或使用香草人工智能的改装追随者一起工作。

例如，如果您尝试将伊尼戈添加到普通追随者派系中，您就有可能破坏他。

我在之前的部分中确实尝试过使用 Kaidan。FWIW 我身边有 Kaidan、Lucien、Inigo 和一个（我认为）香草追随者。该小组不需要追随者框架。不管怎样，我已经让凯丹和我一起旅行了，并且不打算解雇他。IIRC 我将他添加到“当前追随者派系”中。有效。据我所知，我没有错过任何事情。如果您仍想尝试使用 Inigo，我建议您执行以下操作：

• 雇用他
• 和他一起去旅行一段时间
• 打开控制台并输入“savegame InigoPreSubLola”（或任何您想要使用的描述性名称，但可能不包含空格）
• 保存完成后，您可以通过单击 Inigo（仍在控制台中）或 PRID 他的参考号来选择 Inigo。输入“addfac”

  	CurrentFollowerFaction' 或 'addfac 00 05C84E'。 这可能行不通！！！！您可能不会立即发现 Inigo 没有按其应有的方式工作。至少你会确切地知道要返回到哪个保存。   如果您安装了任何评论模块 - 例如 SLSF Fame 评论 - Inigo 将有权访问这些对话框。当你赤身裸体时他会做出反应。无需你做任何事情。

I feel like Inigo’s personality would not do such a thing to Dragonborn.
And it’s not just Inigo. I feel that any good man would never do such a thing. They have their own moral bottom line.
I usually look for Redguard or Orc
The stronger, boorish, crafty, and bandit-like the better, preferably better than Dragonborn (at least in the beginning)
In this case, it can be set that Dragonborn met this follower when she first started her adventure. At this time, her mind and strength were immature, and she gradually became dependent on this follower. Dragonborn later accidentally found the book Submissive Lola, and finally This follower induced Dragonborn to become his slave and take care of Dragonborn. Then this follower became Dragonborn's master, and then ordered Dragonborn to change his name to lola.☺️

Edited October 1, 2023 by akssi

[mangalo]

2 hours ago, akssi said:

I feel like Inigo’s personality would not do such a thing to Dragonborn.
And it’s not just Inigo. I feel that any good man would never do such a thing. They have their own moral bottom line.
I usually look for Redguard or Orc
The stronger, boorish, crafty, and bandit-like the better, preferably better than Dragonborn (at least in the beginning)
In this case, it can be set that Dragonborn met this follower when she first started her adventure. At this time, her mind and strength were immature, and she gradually became dependent on this follower. Dragonborn later accidentally found the book Submissive Lola, and finally This follower induced Dragonborn to become his slave and take care of Dragonborn. Then this follower became Dragonborn's master, and then ordered Dragonborn to change his name to lola.☺️

 

In my current playthrough, all of Skyrim is enslaved, so the idea is that morals have shifted a bit, and khajits have a bit ego so Inigo might pass   My character is level 44 and has actually already done a lot of things, enslaving her was a way to strip her of her previous role.

But I agree, Orcs or Redguards are good in that role, unfortunately there's even fewer follower mods with them...  There's Gorr (3DNPCs) that is not that bad.

 

3 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

I agree, a good man is hard to find, ahem, haha, ahem.

To your point, followers like Inigo, Kaidan, and presumably the 3DNPC followers have their own AI. They don't use the vanilla game AI or follower factions. Sub-Lola, Dev. Followers Continued, etc. work w/ vanilla followers or modded followers that use the vanilla AI.

If you try to add Inigo, for example, to vanilla follower factions you risk breaking him.

I did try with Kaidan on a previous pt. FWIW I had Kaidan, Lucien, Inigo and a (I think) vanilla follower with me. No follower framework needed with this group. Anyway, I already had Kaidan traveling with me and no plans to dismiss him. IIRC I added him to the 'current follower faction'. It worked. As far as I know I didn't miss anything. If you still want to try with Inigo I suggest you do the following:

• hire him
• travel around with him awhile
• open console and type 'savegame InigoPreSubLola' (or whatever descriptive name you want to use, but should probably be no spaces)
• when it finishes saving, then you can select Inigo by clicking on him (still in console) or PRID his reference number. Type 'addfac

  	CurrentFollowerFaction' or 'addfac 0005C84E'. THIS MAY NOT WORK!!!! You may not find out right away that Inigo isn't working as he should. At least you'll know exactly what save to go back to.   If you have any of the comment mods installed - SLSF Fame comments, for example - Inigo will have access to those dialogs. And he'll react when you're naked. Without you doing anything.

 

Thanks, I'll try that out, to be honest I don't care if 10% of its AI is broken if the other 90% still works.

Not a fan of Lucien and Kaidan, though, they're too cheesy and friendly to be a slave master.

[Seeker999]

1 hour ago, mangalo said:

 

In my current playthrough, all of Skyrim is enslaved, so the idea is that morals have shifted a bit, and khajits have a bit ego so Inigo might pass   My character is level 44 and has actually already done a lot of things, enslaving her was a way to strip her of her previous role.

But I agree, Orcs or Redguards are good in that role, unfortunately there's even fewer follower mods with them...  There's Gorr (3DNPCs) that is not that bad.

 

 

Thanks, I'll try that out, to be honest I don't care if 10% of its AI is broken if the other 90% still works.

Not a fan of Lucien and Kaidan, though, they're too cheesy and friendly to be a slave master.

I did a pt once with Kaidan, Inigo, Lucien, and Thorald Greymane. TG has a lot of dialog but is mostly or all vanilla AI so he was, I think, at one time a S-L master and another a DFC master. The Return of TG is an LE mod, but there are instructions on how to convert it. This Thorald is a bit of a frat brat, bawdy limericks, complaints about the weather, etc. If you don't go the stern rout as Lola's master I don't think it's totally out of character. And when Thorald sings his version of Ragnar the Red at the same time Lucien and Inigo are singing there version ... it's just too funny.

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

If Kalmah"s mod is questionable maybe it should not be listed as an add-on? Would save issues with dummies like me.

The description for the link does have this warning:  "It has not been updated for a long time and might be outdated.  Use at your own risk." 

 

Personally, I'd be very reluctant to install a "use at your own risk" mod, not without thoroughly researching it to understand the potential problems.  I like my game to stay solid and stable, free from mysterious problems, but it's a personal choice.

 

A point to consider is that add-ons for this mod are not like official DLC for Skyrim.  Each is done by a different developer with a different vision for what the experience should be, each adding its own spin.  With three add-ons installed, that's four different visions, so your experience will be somewhat inconsistent, though I do work with those developers to try to ensure that no add-on breaks or interferes with the main mod or other add-ons.  Again, it's a personal choice depending on what you want for your game.

 

9 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

Here is my player.inv  take a look please. I could not drop the collar but have nothing else in the inventory except a quest related note.

According to this, you don't have a gag equipped (you said your character had been struggling with a nonexistent gag).  The collar is expected, of course, since Submissive Lola enslavement requires you to wear one at all times.

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

The description for the link does have this warning:  "It has not been updated for a long time and might be outdated.  Use at your own risk." 

 

Personally, I'd be very reluctant to install a "use at your own risk" mod, not without thoroughly researching it to understand the potential problems.  I like my game to stay solid and stable, free from mysterious problems, but it's a personal choice.

 

A point to consider is that add-ons for this mod are not like official DLC for Skyrim.  Each is done by a different developer with a different vision for what the experience should be, each adding its own spin.  With three add-ons installed, that's four different visions, so your experience will be somewhat inconsistent, though I do work with those developers to try to ensure that no add-on breaks or interferes with the main mod or other add-ons.  Again, it's a personal choice depending on what you want for your game.

 

According to this, you don't have a gag equipped (you said your character had been struggling with a nonexistent gag).  The collar is expected, of course, since Submissive Lola enslavement requires you to wear one at all times.

She has not struggled with it since my post, but you know the muffler bearing quits being noisy when you get to the mechanic! 

She definitely grabbed the sides of her face and moved side to side like trying to get a gag loose.

 

I saw the warning there but did not know enough to avoid it, I will uninstall that mod before my next game, which will be sooner than later. Thanks for looking at the pic.

 

[akssi]

3 hours ago, mangalo said:

 

In my current playthrough, all of Skyrim is enslaved, so the idea is that morals have shifted a bit, and khajits have a bit ego so Inigo might pass   My character is level 44 and has actually already done a lot of things, enslaving her was a way to strip her of her previous role.

But I agree, Orcs or Redguards are good in that role, unfortunately there's even fewer follower mods with them...  There's Gorr (3DNPCs) that is not that bad.

 

 

Thanks, I'll try that out, to be honest I don't care if 10% of its AI is broken if the other 90% still works.

Not a fan of Lucien and Kaidan, though, they're too cheesy and friendly to be a slave master.

You can take a look at the conversation you had with Inigo when you first met him, as well as the usual plot dialogue.
He believes that he once attacked the Dragonborn and confessed his crime and put himself in prison. He even gave up Skooma, so it is almost impossible for him to think that way about the Dragonborn, so I don't think the idea that Inigo will enslave the Dragonborn is true.
Moreover, your Dragonborn is already level 44, and his strength and mental quality are absolutely very strong. I think a weak Dragonborn who has just entered Skyrim and is unfamiliar with the world will be better controlled.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

a good man is hard to find, ahem, haha, ahem.

 

3 hours ago, mangalo said:

there's even fewer follower mods with them

 A Male follower Mod is sorely needed for some of the mod content on this site!! I have requested someone to build a follower mod for a male who is a Bad Boy, but none have been made so far. Skyrim and Fallout 4 definitely need one.

And the Female followers are mostly Juvenile, and I cannot stand the teenie bopper  sh*& like with some of the female follower mods. I know they are made for XBOXers and younger folk but us Old guys like a more Mature Woman.  Just sayin.....Peace

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, akssi said:

You can take a look at the conversation you had with Inigo when you first met him, as well as the usual plot dialogue.
He believes that he once attacked the Dragonborn and confessed his crime and put himself in prison. He even gave up Skooma, so it is almost impossible for him to think that way about the Dragonborn, so I don't think the idea that Inigo will enslave the Dragonborn is true.
Moreover, your Dragonborn is already level 44, and his strength and mental quality are absolutely very strong. I think a weak Dragonborn who has just entered Skyrim and is unfamiliar with the world will be better controlled.

Yeah I wish there had been an alley out of being forced into that role, like maybe the first shout you tried came out as a really bad screech and the guards all warned you "you're no dragonborn" and that if you did that again you would be sold to the Silverblood's and put in Cidnha Mine for the remainder of your life, then you could still be an Adventurer, go clear dungeons and such but be free of the whole "Dragonborn" business. You could pick and choose how you wanted to play the game.

Edited October 1, 2023 by Sir Bron

[akssi]

10 minutes ago, Sir Bron said:

 

 A Male follower Mod is sorely needed for some of the mod content on this site!! I have requested someone to build a follower mod for a male who is a Bad Boy, but none have been made so far. Skyrim and Fallout 4 definitely need one.

And the Female followers are mostly Juvenile, and I cannot stand the teenie bopper  sh*& like with some of the female follower mods. I know they are made for XBOXers and younger folk but us Old guys like a more Mature Woman.  Just sayin.....Peace

I think Dragonborn (lola) just met that kind of powerful bad man, rude and cunning, and then Dragonborn was slowly lured and threatened and slowly degenerated. After all, he was enslaved, and his entourage would definitely seduce or forcefully demand, and ( A Strong Hand), what should I do if the follower is very weak (A Strong Hand)? Therefore, the follower’s strength cannot be weak.

Edited October 1, 2023 by akssi

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, akssi said:

I think Dragonborn (lola) just met that kind of powerful bad man, rude and cunning, and then Dragonborn was slowly lured and threatened and slowly degenerated. After all, he was enslaved, and his entourage would definitely seduce or forcefully demand, and ( A Strong Hand), what should I do if the follower is very weak (A Strong Hand)? Therefore, the follower’s strength cannot be weak.

You have  a point but I was seduced by Lydia once and when she flip flops between her duty to the DB and following you DB it really messes with the whole scenario. I use the mod Skyfall Estate, https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2185 and there are two males and one female that is there to care for the house, Zeus is a good "Master" as he has none of the follower AI lines baked in.

If most of the Good Mods were tailored for either sex to play I would play the Male character more often than I currently do.

[Psalam]

2 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

 A Male follower Mod is sorely needed for some of the mod content on this site!! I have requested someone to build a follower mod for a male who is a Bad Boy, but none have been made so far.

Be more specific about what you want and I'll consider it. Also, all of my work is done in LE so you'll need someone else to convert it to SE if you want. And, finally, if I opt to do it I will probably start a Thread with a poll (as I've done previously with my followers (cf. Twins) to get a feel for what the community wants (if anything - this may be the reason it hasn't been done yet).

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Psalam said:

Be more specific about what you want and I'll consider it. Also, all of my work is done in LE so you'll need someone else to convert it to SE if you want. And, finally, if I opt to do it I will probably start a Thread with a poll (as I've done previously with my followers (cf. Twins) to get a feel for what the community wants (if anything - this may be the reason it hasn't been done yet).

Thank You, But I do not wish to chat about it here and detract from the topic of Submissive Lola, any more than I have already.

If you start a thread or PM me we can go from there. Thank You!!

Edited October 2, 2023 by Sir Bron

[CaptainJ03]

22 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

She definitely grabbed the sides of her face and moved side to side like trying to get a gag loose.

Ah, that one fooled you. Yes, someone thought it would be a good idea to add struggle animations to every type of gear. There's none for the collar, so they just took the one for the gag instead. I think that's plain stupid, but as I'm no modder myself, I just bear with it.

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by CaptainJ03
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[Lightsong]

On 10/1/2023 at 4:25 PM, Psalam said:

Be more specific about what you want and I'll consider it. Also, all of my work is done in LE so you'll need someone else to convert it to SE if you want. And, finally, if I opt to do it I will probably start a Thread with a poll (as I've done previously with my followers (cf. Twins) to get a feel for what the community wants (if anything - this may be the reason it hasn't been done yet).

I would also be interested in a follower like this, so i'll check out the poll if you post it as well!

[ck2modfan]

Been using SubLola for many playthroughs. I do have a large number of mods. Until recently no problems with "May I offer service". Latest mix of mods (too many to isolate, but slaverun one of largest changes) causing weird issue. After offering service, nothing happens. Then when change cell location, mistress beckons and normal service dialog triggers.

 

Wondering if anybody has had anything like this? Any suggestions?

[akssi]

On 2023/9/24 at AM1点18分, HexBolt8 said:

萝拉很快就会明白，拒绝性行为只会导致惩罚和强迫性行为。对于角色扮演，玩家可以调整 MCM 中的振动阈值，但我不愿意让 mod 自动增加阈值，因为有些玩家喜欢保持该值较低。我通常会尽量避免让模组更改玩家的 MCM 设置。

I suddenly thought of something, can you see if it’s feasible?☺️?
Can one be added: Whenever the Master starts the slave piercing vibration, Lola can request the Master to stop the vibration, and the price of stopping the vibration is that one of the Master's requirements must be met.
lola can provide the Master with whipping, sex, spanking, feeding (vampire), dancing, etc. to please the Master, and the corresponding Master will stop vibrating.
Or more directly, lola can request the Master to stop vibrating, but it must provide additional services to the Master, and the service I am talking about is (May I be of service, Master?) this function.

Of course, there is a chance that the Master will reject lola's request.
Just like in the game, Lola asks Master for sex, and Master may refuse.

Edited October 4, 2023 by akssi

[Hex Bolt]

11 hours ago, akssi said:

Can one be added: Whenever the Master starts the slave piercing vibration, Lola can request the Master to stop the vibration, and the price of stopping the vibration is that one of the Master's requirements must be met.

Submissive Lola does not have the kind of relationship like with a mod such as Devious Followers, where the PC can bargain with a dominant follower.  Lola is a slave and has to obey.  It's certainly possible that the owner might enjoy offering Lola a choice (such as when Lola gets to choose the participant for 3-way sex or for the bard college event), but a slave does not get to make a counteroffer when the owner wants to do something.  So, this suggestion doesn't really fit the nature of the master-slave relationship.

Edited October 5, 2023 by HexBolt8

[DayTri]

33 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Submissive Lola does not have the kind of relationship like with a mod such as Devious Followers, where the PC can bargain with a dominant follower.  Lola is a slave and has to obey.  It's certainly possible that the owner might enjoy offering Lola a choice (such as when Lola gets to choose the participant for 3-way sex or for the bard college event), but a slave does not get to make a counteroffer when the owner wants to do something.  So, this suggestion doesn't really fir the nature of the master-slave relationship.

 

It could fit if it's not a negotiation, more like the player begging for mercy. The follower could see it as another way of training. The follower likes making Lola do humiliating things, but it's even more humiliating if Lola knows she chose to be humiliated because she couldn't endure some punishment

[akssi]

43 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

顺从的萝拉与诸如“狡猾的追随者”之类的模组不同，PC 可以与占主导地位的追随者讨价还价。  萝拉是奴隶，必须服从。当然，主人可能会喜欢为萝拉提供选择（例如，当萝拉可以选择三人性行为或吟游诗人学院活动的参与者时），但当主人想要时，奴隶不能提出还价。做一点事。所以，这个建议并不能真正符合主从关系的本质。

No sir, I mean Master turned on the vibration first
Lola may have asked because she couldn't bear it anymore. Only then will the Master let Lola choose.
Just like (Adventuring Slave), the Master asks Lola to give him gold coins at 8 pm, and Lola can request the Master to pay in advance, and the Master will ask Lola to do something in exchange, such as being naked for 48 hours, dancing, etc.

Edited October 4, 2023 by akssi