Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, ThatOneSpiderPhoenix said:

Do those rely on different keywords to define "home" than the script that starts Time to Relax?

Yes.  There are separate keywords for "home" and "dwelling".  When the mod is specifically checking for a player home, it uses the home keyword.  For other situations, it uses the dwelling keyword.

 

By convention, all player homes should also have the dwelling keyword, but a careless mod author could create a player home mod and leave off dwelling, which probably happened in your case.  The Time to Relax event intentionally checks for dwellings, which includes player homes, NPC homes, farmhouses, inns, and stores, because it shouldn't start in any of those places.

[Vaenja]

I accidentally clipped my mistress with a shout recently (Frost Breath), and she responded by forcing the dragonborn into an armbinder (Careless Hands).   Of course, this didn't prevent me from clearing out the rest of the Brinehammer mudcrabs with more Frost Breath shouts. 

 

It got me to thinking that for the dragonborn (if it already isn't an option), being gagged should perhaps be a possibility if you damage your owner.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Vaenja

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Vaenja said:

It got me to thinking that for the dragonborn (if it already isn't an option), being gagged should perhaps be a possibility if you damage your owner.

I'll make a note to look at that possibility sometime.

[ThatOneSpiderPhoenix]

20 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Yes.  There are separate keywords for "home" and "dwelling".  When the mod is specifically checking for a player home, it uses the home keyword.  For other situations, it uses the dwelling keyword.

 

By convention, all player homes should also have the dwelling keyword, but a careless mod author could create a player home mod and leave off dwelling, which probably happened in your case.  The Time to Relax event intentionally checks for dwellings, which includes player homes, NPC homes, farmhouses, inns, and stores, because it shouldn't start in any of those places.

That makes sense, thank you for explaining. Guess I'll have to see if I can fix things in xEdit then.

[akssi]

20 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

我会记下记录，以便有时间看看这种可能性。

Can I make a small request? You can refer to it☺️
Master usually asks for sex. If Lola refuses, she will be shocked or whipped.
Perhaps the Piercings vibration penalty can be increased. If Lola refuses the master's sex request, the Master may think that Lola is not enthusiastic enough, and then enable Piercings vibration to make Lola more enthusiastic.
Of course, lola needs to equip Piercings

Edited September 23, 2023 by akssi

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, akssi said:

Can I make a small request?

Lola will quickly learn that refusing sex just results in punishment plus forced sex.  For roleplaying, a player could adjust the vibration threshold in the MCM, but I'd be reluctant to have the mod automatically increase the threshold because some players like to keep that value low.  I usually try to avoid having a mod change the player's MCM settings.

[akssi]

11 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

萝拉很快就会明白，拒绝性行为只会导致惩罚和强迫性行为。对于角色扮演，玩家可以调整 MCM 中的振动阈值，但我不愿意让 mod 自动增加阈值，因为有些玩家喜欢保持该值较低。我通常会尽量避免让模组更改玩家的 MCM 设置。

Thanks for your answer☺️

[akssi]

On 9/23/2023 at 2:05 AM, HexBolt8 said:

我会记下记录，以便有时间看看这种可能性。

There is a small problem
For the "Trophy Slave" task, lola will be tied up and placed on the auction display stand. The Auction Pose looks too monotonous, as if there is only one kind of pose.
The mcm of "Simple Slavery" has an "Auction Pose" where you can choose the Auction Pose freely.
Can you modify this function and add new poses from the "Auction Pose" of your "Simple Slavery" module?

The master will ask lola to choose a pose using "Auction Pose" in "Simple Slavery"
If lola agrees, the master will ask lola what poses she wants to use for the auction exhibition, and lola must choose a pose.
If Lola refuses and resists, the master will randomly choose a pose. After the end, Lola will have her hands tied by the master for 6 hours.

Edited September 23, 2023 by akssi

[GL00]

I've only just started using the mod (its amazing btw). But is there any way to change the whipping punishment to something else? Ether via an MCM setting, or external mod someone may have created?
Its the only part of the mod I am not into, plus its pretty jank. Having an option for it to be spanking, forced restrictive bondage, extended shocks with demeaning dialogue, being put in chastity and banned from sex for a set amount of time, edged, or forced aggressive sex with them and your playmate could all be good possible alternatives.

Also, they keep being displeased with me, which causes me to be whipped pretty frequently. I have been asking them what they want, and doing the tasks they ask, but still at random I get punished for displeasing them. Not sure if its a glitch, or if I am missing something?

Edited September 24, 2023 by GL00

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, GL00 said:

I've only just started using the mod (its amazing btw).

Thanks!

 

4 hours ago, GL00 said:

But is there any way to change the whipping punishment to something else? Ether via an MCM setting, or external mod someone may have created?  Its the only part of the mod I am not into, plus its pretty jank.

No, whipping is pretty much a core feature, but you can set the duration to just a few seconds.  If you're having trouble with whipping functioning, be aware that it's broken in ZAP  9 (you need ZAP 7 or 8 for it to work).

 

4 hours ago, GL00 said:

I have been asking them what they want, and doing the tasks they ask, but still at random I get punished for displeasing them.

If you're punished, you will be told why.  From what you said, you're failing your daily service goals.  There's a message at the end of each day that tells you if you succeeded or failed.  You can configure the goals in the MCM under Rules.  Your owner expects you to do more than just obey commands like a puppy; you must also offer service.  The owner explains that when you become a slave:

 

"You will obey my orders, of course, but I also expect you to offer service to me.

Do it often.  If you don't, I will punish you for not trying hard enough to please me.

I want you kneeling at my feet, asking "How my I serve you?" and wondering what I will do to you."

 

When you see the notification that "You may ask your Master if he wants something", that's your cue.  If you wait too long, Master becomes bored and gives you a task, but he will be dissatisfied if you keep waiting to be told what to do.

[Hex Bolt]

6 hours ago, akssi said:

For the "Trophy Slave" task, lola will be tied up and placed on the auction display stand. The Auction Pose looks too monotonous, as if there is only one kind of pose.
The mcm of "Simple Slavery" has an "Auction Pose" where you can choose the Auction Pose freely.

There is only the one pose.  It's the same one that Simple Savery used before I added the MCM pose choices in Simple Slavery++.  I will make a note to consider using the player's pose choice for SS++ for Trophy Slave (if the player is using SS++).

[just_Gina]

14 hours ago, GL00 said:

Also, they keep being displeased with me, which causes me to be whipped pretty frequently.

A STRICT Master seems to whip more frequently. SPANK instead of WHIP has a setting and seems to work pretty well. 

But mostly, initiate conversation often and check for "May I be of service?" That way even when you miss it, or it gets lost in 

the alphabet soup, you'll mostly still be able to serve the Master before he gets angry.

[Hex Bolt]

7 hours ago, just_Gina said:

But mostly, initiate conversation often and check for "May I be of service?" That way even when you miss it, or it gets lost in 

the alphabet soup, you'll mostly still be able to serve the Master before he gets angry.

Just adding to this, the mod also helps the player by redisplaying the "may offer service" notification (if applicable) whenever the player loads a save, to help on those times when one resumes playing on another day and might have forgotten that it's time to be a good slave again.

[GL00]

On 9/23/2023 at 8:47 PM, HexBolt8 said:

No, whipping is pretty much a core feature, but you can set the duration to just a few seconds.  If you're having trouble with whipping functioning, be aware that it's broken in ZAP  9 (you need ZAP 7 or 8 for it to work).

Sad to hear. There could be some cool alternative punishments. Anyways, I have Zaz 7, so it shouldn't be that. Is it just supposed to be a normal one handed swing animation? Or something custom? I have custom attack animations mods, which would explain the jank if so. Ether way, its a non issue now that I avoid being whipped every day lol.

 

On 9/23/2023 at 8:47 PM, HexBolt8 said:

If you're punished, you will be told why.  From what you said, you're failing your daily service goals.  There's a message at the end of each day that tells you if you succeeded or failed.

Thank you. I figured out the issue soon after posting this. I had thought I was doing it enough each day, but with some sleeping and fast travel here and there, I think I just kept getting the timing off each day, so even though I would do everything she asked, there was not enough time to reach the goal. I have been much better off, and recovering from a -80 submission score lol.

 

17 hours ago, just_Gina said:

A STRICT Master seems to whip more frequently. SPANK instead of WHIP has a setting and seems to work pretty well. 

As stated above I'm just dumb, and got it figured out, but thanks!
Is Spank Instead of Whip a mod, or a setting I missed in this? I cant find anything on it.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, GL00 said:

Is it [whipping] just supposed to be a normal one handed swing animation?

Mostly one-handed, but with a few spinning strikes as "power attacks".

 

1 hour ago, GL00 said:

I have been much better off, and recovering from a -80 submission score

Score should be limited to no lower than -30.

 

1 hour ago, GL00 said:

Is Spank Instead of Whip a mod, or a setting I missed in this?

It's an undocumented and unsupported option that I added a good while ago for someone who was having technical issues with whipping.  You're really better off with the whippings, now that you know how to minimize your punishments, and setting a short duration.  You should be able to avoid most punishments, so you won't be seeing it all that often now.

[akssi]

https://arca.live/b/tullius/79521547

Saw a new Devious Devices restraint pose on a Korean website

[akssi]

On 2023/9/24 at AM9点47分, HexBolt8 said:

谢谢！

 

不，鞭打几乎是一个核心功能，但您可以将持续时间设置为几秒钟。如果您在鞭打功能方面遇到问题，请注意它在 ZAP 9 中已损坏（您需要 ZAP 7 或 8 才能正常工作）。

 

如果你受到惩罚，他们会告诉你原因。根据您的说法，您没有达到日常服务目标。每天结束时都会有一条消息告诉您是成功还是失败。您可以在 MCM 的“规则”下配置目标。你的主人希望你做的不仅仅是像小狗一样服从命令；您还必须提供服务。主人解释说，当你成为奴隶时：

 

“当然，你会服从我的命令，但我也希望你为我提供服务。

经常做。如果你不这样做，我会惩罚你没有努力取悦我。

我希望你跪在我脚下，问“我如何为你服务？” 并想知道我会对你做什么。”

 

当你看到“你可以问你的主人是否想要什么东西”的通知时，那就是你的提示。如果你等得太久，师父会觉得无聊，就会给你布置任务，但如果你一直等着别人告诉你该怎么做，他就会不满意。

I have a little suggestion regarding bondage punishment.☺️
Usually if Lola refuses the master's order, she will be whipped by the master. Can some tasks be added? If Lola refuses to complete the master's request, Lola will have her hands tied by the master. The master will force Lola to complete the master's tasks in the bondage state. Task.
When Lola completes the task, Lola can request the master to remove the bondage on her body.
For example, tasks such as (I Am Famous), (Parade), (Confessions of a Slave), (Working Slave), lola can complete these tasks even if she is bonded.

Edited September 29, 2023 by akssi

[ratolas]

Just an idea, if the owner has a cum overlay from sexlab, they may ask lola to clean them using an oral animation, not sure if its possible to do it, but worth a try

[Lightsong]

If anyone is interested I found this absolutely fantastic dragonborn voiceover for lola. It also has a bunch of other loverslab voicepacks and the author is open to suggestions.

[Guest]

Hi, first, Thank You for your work of this Mod.

I have been using it for a while with no issues, then I suddenly had an issue with the PC struggling with a Non Existent gag, I could not figure it out so then I updated to 2.1.2 from 2.1.1 and started a new game. No luck, besides struggling with non existent gag, when Mistress Lydia puts me out for whoring to make Gold I cannot ask "how about a good time with a Nord" the phrase is gone and I do not have to sex the innkeeper per MCM not being checked. If I go to an innkeeper I can whore for gold just not with a Mistress/Master.

 

How do I clear the skyrim se game file of "Ghosts" like this so I can start a new game without these issues, or any other ideas?

Skyrim SE, 1.5.97, Vortex, and I try to keep all mods updated to the previous info.

Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated!   Thank You.

 

I also just added these today, but had the issue before loading these....

Coffee's Task Extension

TekknoTim's Addon 

Kalmah's Extension

Edited October 1, 2023 by Sir Bron

[Hex Bolt]

3 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

I have been using it for a while with no issues, then I suddenly had an issue with the PC struggling with a Non Existent gag

This mod only uses the one gag that's selected in the MCM, so I don't think what you describe is from here, but you should be able to find the culprit by moving all your items into a container, then using player.inv in the console to see what non transferrable items you have left.  Devious devices will have a blank name.  Ignore xx040F0C, though.  That's the device hider.  The ID should point you to the mod and item.

 

This problem of invisible DD items was more common before DD 5.2, but that version now handles the most usual causes.

  

3 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

I also just added these today, but had the issue before loading these

Kalmah's extension has not kept up with this mod.  Use it with caution.

Edited October 1, 2023 by HexBolt8

[Seeker999]

1 hour ago, Sir Bron said:

How do I clear the skyrim se game file of "Ghosts" like this so I can start a new game without these issues, or any other ideas?

Skyrim SE, 1.5.97, Vortex, and I try to keep all mods updated to the previous info.

Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated!   Thank You.

I'm also a Vortex user, so maybe this will help. Pardon me if I go very basic, but I'd rather include what you already know than assume you know something you don't (and it's easier for me to make sure I don't miss a step ). And this is what I do whenever I start a new game.

Spoiler

 BTW, have you ever opened the mod staging folder? If not, go to the Vortex mods page and look for the 'Open' button in the toolbar. Click it and the first option is 'Open Mod Staging Folder'. When you select that option, you'll see a whole bunch of folders - these are all the mods you have installed, whether you enabled them for your current game or not. One folder for every archive.

1. Back on the Vortex mods page, select all your mods. When you select multiple mods a new toolbar pops up at the bottom of the page with various commands. You want to disable all of them. It won't hurt to 'Deploy Mods' at this time.
2. Now, with all the mods selected, choose the 'Remove' option from the bottom toolbar. A dialog box will pop up with 2 options - you only want to remove the mod. Leave the other option (remove archive) unchecked. Continue.
3. Deploy mods.
4. Check your Vortex plugins page, it should only have the vanilla game plugins.
5. Open your mod staging folder, all those folders you saw before should be gone.
6. Before reinstalling your mods, verify that all your SKSE-dependent mods are the correct version for your game and not for SSE 1.6+.
7. Reinstall your mods.
8. Deploy
9. Run FNIS and Bodyslide, if applicable
10. Deploy
11. I always go to the plugins page and run the Sort command from there.
12. Start your game.

• If I am updating a mod mid-game, especially a non-Nexus mod, I follow the same procedures (for the one mod, not all) as above in order not to have any old stuff lying around. If it's a Nexus mod, I'll update from within Vortex, but still go back to the previous version in order to remove it and avoid possible interference with the current version. I know, probably unnecessary, but I do it anyway. In rare instances, I'll have to clean the save of old stuff that was baked in.
• Want to double-check for leftover that might have escaped the uninstall process? After step 5, open your game folder, scan for any obviously non-vanilla esp's, bsa's, etc. Then open the Data folder (the game mods folder) and look at the folders Scripts and Source (if there is one) and do the same.
• If you're worried about accidentally deleting the archives, just move them to another folder before you do step 1 above. I actually have a folder for the mods I don't currently use in the same directory as skyrimse (......Vortex\downloads\SkyrimSE Not in use). What can I say? I like my active downloads folder to be clean as well.

Like I said, this is what I do to start off with as clean a slate as possible. If it helps, great. I hope you find your problem and can fix it.

[akssi]

5 hours ago, Sir Bron said:

Hi, first, Thank You for your work of this Mod.

I have been using it for a while with no issues, then I suddenly had an issue with the PC struggling with a Non Existent gag, I could not figure it out so then I updated to 2.1.2 from 2.1.1 and started a new game. No luck, besides struggling with non existent gag, when Mistress Lydia puts me out for whoring to make Gold I cannot ask "how about a good time with a Nord" the phrase is gone and I do not have to sex the innkeeper per MCM not being checked. If I go to an innkeeper I can whore for gold just not with a Mistress/Master.

 

How do I clear the skyrim se game file of "Ghosts" like this so I can start a new game without these issues, or any other ideas?

Skyrim SE, 1.5.97, Vortex, and I try to keep all mods updated to the previous info.

Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated!   Thank You.

 

I also just added these today, but had the issue before loading these....

Coffee's Task Extension

TekknoTim's Addon 

Kalmah's Extension

I'm using Kalmah's Extension
The following functions are normal in my game
City Bondage
Marked Property
Being restrained while resting in a hotel
The following two functions are invalid
Restless Slave
Pack Slave
And the "Enough is Enough" function has not been triggered yet.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

This mod only uses the one gag that's selected in the MCM, so I don't think what you describe is from here, but you should be able to find the culprit by moving all your items into a container, then using player.inv in the console to see what non transferrable items you have left.  Devious devices will have a blank name.  Ignore xx040F0C, though.  That's the device hider.  The ID should point you to the mod and item.

 

This problem of invisible DD items was more common before DD 5.2, but that version now handles the most usual causes.

  

Kalmah's extension has not kept up with this mod.  Use it with caution.

I was thinking about it after I had left this post and it "broke" after I stupidly tried to unlock my gag, the one you get from prattling on about having sex too much. I will do what you stated, but why would that stop a line of dialog from working? If I find an item hiding there after player.inv what to do with it? Can I drop it, delete it?

Thank You so much for the quick reply!

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

I'm also a Vortex user, so maybe this will help. Pardon me if I go very basic, but I'd rather include what you already know than assume you know something you don't (and it's easier for me to make sure I don't miss a step ). And this is what I do whenever I start a new game.

  Reveal hidden contents

 BTW, have you ever opened the mod staging folder? If not, go to the Vortex mods page and look for the 'Open' button in the toolbar. Click it and the first option is 'Open Mod Staging Folder'. When you select that option, you'll see a whole bunch of folders - these are all the mods you have installed, whether you enabled them for your current game or not. One folder for every archive.

1. Back on the Vortex mods page, select all your mods. When you select multiple mods a new toolbar pops up at the bottom of the page with various commands. You want to disable all of them. It won't hurt to 'Deploy Mods' at this time.
2. Now, with all the mods selected, choose the 'Remove' option from the bottom toolbar. A dialog box will pop up with 2 options - you only want to remove the mod. Leave the other option (remove archive) unchecked. Continue.
3. Deploy mods.
4. Check your Vortex plugins page, it should only have the vanilla game plugins.
5. Open your mod staging folder, all those folders you saw before should be gone.
6. Before reinstalling your mods, verify that all your SKSE-dependent mods are the correct version for your game and not for SSE 1.6+.
7. Reinstall your mods.
8. Deploy
9. Run FNIS and Bodyslide, if applicable
10. Deploy
11. I always go to the plugins page and run the Sort command from there.
12. Start your game.

• If I am updating a mod mid-game, especially a non-Nexus mod, I follow the same procedures (for the one mod, not all) as above in order not to have any old stuff lying around. If it's a Nexus mod, I'll update from within Vortex, but still go back to the previous version in order to remove it and avoid possible interference with the current version. I know, probably unnecessary, but I do it anyway. In rare instances, I'll have to clean the save of old stuff that was baked in.
• Want to double-check for leftover that might have escaped the uninstall process? After step 5, open your game folder, scan for any obviously non-vanilla esp's, bsa's, etc. Then open the Data folder (the game mods folder) and look at the folders Scripts and Source (if there is one) and do the same.
• If you're worried about accidentally deleting the archives, just move them to another folder before you do step 1 above. I actually have a folder for the mods I don't currently use in the same directory as skyrimse (......Vortex\downloads\SkyrimSE Not in use). What can I say? I like my active downloads folder to be clean as well.

Like I said, this is what I do to start off with as clean a slate as possible. If it helps, great. I hope you find your problem and can fix it.

That is very thorough!  I new most of what you did/do but usually have only done that on a clean Re-Install of the game.

You did miss the Purge prior to uninstall step.

I do know just enough to be considered Dangerous but not really much more than that, I love the fact that so many mod authors and users here devote energy to answer questions and try to help the end users!

Too Cool    Thank You All, Peace

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Sir Bron