Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[kapibar]

33 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

The quest completion dialog is not restricted by device keywords, so having a belt equipped would have no effect.  If you managed to complete the task, you should have the "[Pony] Mmmph!" topic to report your success to your owner.  If you can't finish the quest, you can do as suggested in the "Guide for Pony Express Girls" book that you received and use the console command "SetStage vkjPonyExpress 110".

I wasn't clear. Everything about the quest worked fine, start to finish. But - if I recall correctly - after the initial run you can volunteer to do a next one in the inn - this dialogue option doesn't appear for me.

[Hex Bolt]

11 minutes ago, kapibar said:

I wasn't clear. Everything about the quest worked fine, start to finish. But - if I recall correctly - after the initial run you can volunteer to do a next one in the inn - this dialogue option doesn't appear for me.

You have to wait for the quest cooldown.

[kapibar]

4 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

You have to wait for the quest cooldown.

(I'm a fucking idiot xD)

 

Yeah, might've forgotten about the cooldown. There're so many quests without it I just took for granted that Pony Express doesn't have one ?. Thanks for clarification.

[convicted melon]

How do you format multiple thoughts within the same submission range?

[lcewolf]

Hello @HexBolt8

 

I want to make an immersion suggestion for your mod.

 

I was wondering if you ever consider add a writen contract like a «Memo» for Lola and the Owner? Like and official paper sign by a Jarl?

 

I think it could add an immersive way to explain why nobody question the fact you are owned and why you can just get away and leave your owner after

some situation.

 

Let me give you an exemple of a quest.

Spoiler

Solitude example:

Lola quest: Sign an official contract.

«Discussion like a forcegreet»

• ·         It’s time we made official the contract. «Owner»
• ·         I am not sure it’s necessary Master/Mistress. A contract seems to make it too much real.
• ·         It will assure we won’t have any misunderstood about our situation nothing to worry your head Lola. We need to meet Falk Firebeard  «Owner»

Start the quest: Sign an official contract at Solitude with Jarl Elisif « Why her because whatever happen at the end of the civil war she won’t be replaced. Other could be»

When you meet Falk Firebeard.

• ·         Hello My mistress/master require your help for a contract.
• ·         You are one of them. Yes, I can make and official contract for you and your Owner.  I just need you to sign an authorization for redact the contract. «Falk Firebeard»
• ·         Alright where do I need to sign.

 

Text box appear: Falk Firebeard make you sign an official act for redacting a contract. He is smiling at your owner when you sign the paper. You are told to wait when your owner discusses with Falk.

 

Second Box appear: After a while, Falk Firebeard return with an official contract sign by the Jarl, Falk and your owner but strangely you didn’t have to sign the contract.

You speak with your owner.

·         Master/Mistress why didn’t I have to sign the contract?

·         It’s not necessary. You don’t need to worry your head about this.«Owner»

·         Can I see it Master/Mistress?

·         No I keep it safe for both of us let’s go. «Owner»

End the Quest.

You could have few version of the contract for fitting the situation you have created. «Need money, voluntary serve, sold at your owner etc… » When you end your contract you could receive the final version or you could receive a copy right away. If you check the forever option once you have pass the limit the Master/Mistress could give you a copy of the contract with an unending limit.

 

I could also write few suggestion of contract if you want. I am sure other fan could also write few exemple if you don't want to work too mush on this.

 

Thank you for taking time to analyse my suggestion.

 

Edited August 28, 2023 by lcewolf

[Hex Bolt]

4 hours ago, convicted melon said:

How do you format multiple thoughts within the same submission range?

If you're referring to the use of MessageFormat.json for message formatting, the format applies to all messages of that type.

 

3 hours ago, lcewolf said:

I was wondering if you ever consider add a writen contract like a «Memo» for Lola and the Owner? Like and official paper sign by a Jarl?

It has been mentioned before, and I had given it some thought, but I decided against doing it.  Things like that are often best left vague, since the details will vary from one player to the next.  Also, involving a jarl in a bondage sex game does not seem appropriate (assuming that the relationship was entered voluntarily, rather than by slave auction, in which case the owner presumably already has slave papers).  

 

 

[convicted melon]

29 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

If you're referring to the use of MessageFormat.json for message formatting, the format applies to all messages of that type.

I meant the Thoughts.json, I tried adding multiple thoughts within, for example, 80-99 submission score. I get a message saying it can't read the file, however it works when I only have one thought within each range. Not sure how to format multiple thoughts, as the example doesn't more than one.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, convicted melon said:

I meant the Thoughts.json, I tried adding multiple thoughts within, for example, 80-99 submission score. I get a message saying it can't read the file, however it works when I only have one thought within each range. Not sure how to format multiple thoughts, as the example doesn't more than one.

Huh???  Every single range in the example has at least two thoughts.

 

The most likely problem is that you included a comma after the last thought.  Using a validator like jsonlint can quickly identify errors.

[CaptainJ03]

1 hour ago, convicted melon said:

I meant the Thoughts.json, I tried adding multiple thoughts within, for example, 80-99 submission score. I get a message saying it can't read the file, however it works when I only have one thought within each range. Not sure how to format multiple thoughts, as the example doesn't more than one.

The example provided with the download already has three lines per submission range. Put your thoughts in double quotes, and separate the lines with a comma, but without a comma after the last thought (as is explained in the HowTo that comes with the download)

[convicted melon]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Huh???  Every single range in the example has at least two thoughts.

 

The most likely problem is that you included a comma after the last thought.  Using a validator like jsonlint can quickly identify errors.

 

1 hour ago, CaptainJ03 said:

The example provided with the download already has three lines per submission range. Put your thoughts in double quotes, and separate the lines with a comma, but without a comma after the last thought (as is explained in the HowTo that comes with the download)

For some reason I thought the three lines makes up one single thought, sleep deprivation is hitting hard. Thanks for clarifying!

[shimemiya]

does anyone know how to remove this modesty thing? it's kind of bothering me...

 

[AKM]

21 minutes ago, shimemiya said:

does anyone know how to remove this modesty thing? it's kind of bothering me...

 

I forget what mod it is that does this, but the setting you want to turn on is "Is exhibitionist", or close.  That will prevent this animation.

[Hex Bolt]

49 minutes ago, shimemiya said:

does anyone know how to remove this modesty thing?

It's not from this mod.

[MyNameIsnt]

58 minutes ago, shimemiya said:

does anyone know how to remove this modesty thing? it's kind of bothering me...

 

 

Uncheck "Cover Animation" in either SL Survival or Cursed Loot

[shimemiya]

24 minutes ago, MyNameIsnt said:

 

Uncheck "Cover Animation" in either SL Survival or Cursed Loot

Thank you very much!

[Seeker999]

@shimemiya Those aren't the only ones with a modesty animation. Check all your mods where nudity is involved. I don't remember whether it was Body Search or another mod in a previous pt, but it also had an option to cover yourself when stripped.

[shimemiya]

12 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

@shimemiya Those aren't the only ones with a modesty animation. Check all your mods where nudity is involved. I don't remember whether it was Body Search or another mod in a previous pt, but it also had an option to cover yourself when stripped.

Yup, thanks. I solved it. It was cursed loot (easy process of elimination since I didn't have that many mods installed).

 

Also, unrelated question: I remember there being a dialogue where you could request for a certain task to be given to you (for me it was pony). How does that menu work? I only encountered it once, and it never appeared again.

 

Also, does the inflatable buttplug game or solitude fashion slave block the pony event?

 

Edited August 31, 2023 by shimemiya

[Hex Bolt]

2 hours ago, shimemiya said:

does the inflatable buttplug game or solitude fashion slave block the pony event?

Yes and yes.  Some of the rest is discussed elsewhere on this page.

[shimemiya]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

Yes and yes.  Some of the rest is discussed elsewhere on this page.

 

Was that a recent change then, in regards to the solitude fashion slave blocking it? I remember having both active once upon a time.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, shimemiya said:

Was that a recent change then, in regards to the solitude fashion slave blocking it?

In regard to blockers for Pony Express, the fashion slave event has always blocked it, but the check for an inflatable plug is more recent.

[Aladsk]

@HexBolt8

 

Hello, I'd like to suggest a new personality option for the owner, if possible. The details of this option are as follows:

 

At low submission score, the owner is inexperienced and unsure of themselves. It's almost as if Lola is training their owner. However as submission score increases, the owner's confidence and skill grows. The skill growth can be expressed with more events being available as usual, while confidence growth could be expressed through the owner's dialogue.

 

I think this new personality would mesh well with less experienced characters such as Erik and Jordis. I've included some AI-generated SFW dialogue snippets that illustrate the initial vibe I am trying to capture.

 

Scenario 1: In the castle's study

Master: (hesitating) Um, Sarah, could you please fetch me that book from the shelf over there?

Sarah: (smiling warmly) Of course, my lord. It is my duty to serve you. (playfully) You need not be so hesitant; command me with authority.

Master: (blushing) Well, I just don't want to seem bossy, you know?

Sarah: (teasing) My lord, you are not being bossy. You are merely exercising your rightful authority. Now, shall I fetch the book swiftly or slowly?

 

Scenario 2: At a formal dinner

Master: (nervously) Sarah, could you pass the wine, please?

Sarah: (gracefully) My lord, it is my pleasure to serve you. (whispering playfully) You could be a touch more commanding, if you wish. I find it quite charming.

Master: (blushing again) Very well. Sarah, pass the wine now.

Sarah: (winking) Much better, my lord. Here you go.

 

Scenario 3: In the master's chambers

Master: (uncertain) Sarah, would you mind drawing the curtains for me?

Sarah: (affectionate) Certainly, my lord. Allow me to serve you in every way. (playfully) But, could you request it as if you truly desire it? Your wish is my command.

Master: (gaining confidence) Sarah, draw the curtains, please.

Sarah: (with a delighted grin) There we go, my lord. Now you're getting the hang of it.

 

Scenario 4: In the garden

Master: (tentative) Sarah, could you pick those flowers for me?

Sarah: (with a twinkle in her eye) Of course, my lord. It is my privilege to fulfill your desires. (encouragingly) How about you ask a bit more assertively this time?

Master: (with a hint of determination) Sarah, pick those flowers, now.

Sarah: (grinning) Perfect, my lord. Your will shall always be my pleasure to carry out.

Edited September 1, 2023 by ThePopato
Included better dialogue snippets.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, ThePopato said:

At low submission score, the owner is inexperienced and unsure....

An interesting idea, but a fundamental assumption behind the design and writing throughout the mod is that the owner is confident, decisive, and very much in charge.  The concept might better fit something like Joyful Followers.

[JamenBenthe86]

Is there a way to manually end slavery through a debug option or manually lower the contract length? I don't see an option in the mcm. Talking to my follower they only say that they bought me and don't care if I don't want to be a slave anymore. Thanks!

[Hex Bolt]

35 minutes ago, benjamen86 said:

Is there a way to manually end slavery through a debug option or manually lower the contract length?

Sure, you can cheat by using the console:  set vkjContract to x

[JamenBenthe86]

23 minutes ago, HexBolt8 said:

Sure, you can cheat by using the console:  set vkjContract to x

Thanks! Had a massive contract length because my owner kept getting downed by giants and I had that option toggled on. Basically permanent slavery. Whoops.