Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE

[Hex Bolt]

19 minutes ago, Lupine00 said:

I believe that in MO, virtual files will override real ones - by design - not the reverse.

Okay, thank you for that.  I don't use a mod manager so my lack of experience there is showing.

 

Fortunately, in this specific case (a player-supplied JSON file), players are directed to copy the example file to a new file name and edit that new file.  There's nothing to override.  Players will have to work with their mod managers, but I think that placing a new file within the real Data folder will work.  (It might well be better to keep that file in the mod manager's mod folder, but that didn't seem to be working for this person.)

[Lupine00]

1 hour ago, HexBolt8 said:

I think that placing a new file within the real Data folder will work

Certainly it will, but for MO users it's not the best approach. For Vortex, I couldn't comment.

 

It's extremely poor practice putting files directly into your file structure when using MO*, as a key feature of MO is the ability to keep profiles separate, and a file in the base structure is both difficult to identify and clean later, and present in every single one of your profiles, whether it should be or not.

 

MO users should (probably) ...

1) Ensure their Overwrite folder is empty.

2) Create the new file in their Overwrite folder.

3) Use "create mod" to create a new mod to manage that file and its overwrite order, OR

3) Drag the file into their SLtR mod folder so it's considered part of the mod.

 

But I would advise against the latter, as a clean replace of SLtR will lose the file, which is probably not what most users will want.

 

Most MO users will know what to do anyway, unless they are really new to MO.

 

For NMM, there's a way to make the file managed, but it's a bit of busywork.

I do this myself when using NMM however, as having any unmanaged files means you can't clean out your Skyrim installation properly.

 

Create the new file in a temp directory.

Put it into a .7z file with the correct directory structure.

Install the .7z file as a mod so that NMM can manage it.

 

*An exception to this is ENB files, but they can be managed via an alternative program that knows all about ENB and ReShade files.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

I just noticed that iNeed (which I use) has food spoilage

Interesting. I guess I'll wait for you, what results you get, and then try it, too. I don't want to disturb the delicate balance of mods which currently run smoothly in my Skyrim VR.
 

 

8 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

Use the console.

That's the problem, in VR, using the console is a major pain in the ass and totally breaks immersion. So I'll just let her take all of my money and pretend she's buying stuff with it. But if you can, one day, make it so that she actually buys and equips stuff on her own initiative, that would be really awesome. But, as noted earlier, I completely understand if there's no time for that. You must be getting hundreds of requests like this and surely have tons of ideas of your own... Today, after four days, I'll finally have time and privacy to play again, so I'm looking forward to see, what's new in the latest update.

[Guest]

First of all, thanks for the continued effort you put into this really nice mod.

 

I have been having a problem with Masturbation denial not interrupting masturbation, even if checked in MCM. I am starting masturbation with the registered hotkey in SLAX. This is on the 2.07 version and on a new game. I remember it working correctly on a previous version (one of the latest patches posted by HexBolt8 in MrEsturk mod page), with pretty much the same load order i am currently using. I have not switched to DD5, still on 4.3, if this could be relevant.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I upgraded to 2.0.7 and wanted to try the new harness for Pony Express.  At the time I was required to be nude, and the MCM was set for Very Safe Areas, and I started getting zapped for wearing clothes when the harness was put on.  I changed the setting to Player Home Only to stop the zapping.

 

ALso, though I don't think this is something you can do anything about, the gag talk from DCL (I think) has the occasional result of removing your gag.  Didn't break the quest but it did remove the gag and ears. 

[Hex Bolt]

9 hours ago, deadayo said:

I have been having a problem with Masturbation denial not interrupting masturbation, even if checked in MCM.

I just verified that it's still working.  DD version wouldn't matter.  If your owner tells you to masturbate, that's allowed.  Masturbation animations are identified as those with the "Solo" or "Masturbation" tag, and which do not have tags for a partner.  Possibly you're using an animation simply tagged "F" (or "M") that isn't caught. 

 

4 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I upgraded to 2.0.7 and wanted to try the new harness for Pony Express.  At the time I was required to be nude, and the MCM was set for Very Safe Areas, and I started getting zapped for wearing clothes when the harness was put on

Yeah, it's marked as clothing, presumably for Frostfall.  I think I'll try a different implementation.

 

4 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

ALso, though I don't think this is something you can do anything about, the gag talk from DCL (I think) has the occasional result of removing your gag.  Didn't break the quest but it did remove the gag and ears.

It it does, that's unfortunate.  I can't stop it.  The quest does enable DD's gag talk feature during the quest (and sets it back to its starting value at the end), which shortens the process of communicating.

[Hex Bolt]

Thanks to @Baltasarr80 for reminding me that this mod lets the player hire a mercenary for free in exchange for becoming the merc's love slave.  Guess what?  That won't be completely free anymore.  With the next update, you'll get a minimum contract term of 5 days even if you'd selected No Contract.  100 gold per day seems a very fair exchange for an adventurer who can't pay the 500 gold hiring fee.

[Baltasarr80]

Sure that sounds fine for me

[bubba999]

I looked for this but didn't find anything. I have Lola's Mistress set to take 75% of the gold she gets. This works fine for selling gear but it doesn't work with Missives or Quest rewards. For example, I just returned Runil's journal and got paid 500 gold and Lola got the full amount.  In Missives you get gold up front for some of the missions like deliver a potion and then you get gold at the end of the quest also. I haven't seen this work for Lola. I would love it if her Mistress took that gold as it's earned. Love the Mod, as always!

[Jehuty599]

12 hours ago, deadayo said:

First of all, thanks for the continued effort you put into this really nice mod.

 

I have been having a problem with Masturbation denial not interrupting masturbation, even if checked in MCM. I am starting masturbation with the registered hotkey in SLAX. This is on the 2.07 version and on a new game. I remember it working correctly on a previous version (one of the latest patches posted by HexBolt8 in MrEsturk mod page), with pretty much the same load order i am currently using. I have not switched to DD5, still on 4.3, if this could be relevant.

I am having this problem as well, I just kinda thought it was because of Serana and her wonky AI, and mods like these have issues with her. It was working on my older playthrough on an older version of Submissive Lola...I did just switch to DD5 though.

[sportsfan]

22 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

As much as you're going to get zapped, you'd soon be Ant Man!

  

Thanks!

 

No, it only supports one buyer.

 

Follow-up question, is there a way for your owner to punish you if they are on the receiving end of aggressive sex (from the player or another npc)?

 

My current run I am using NFF so I can make Ysolda my mistress and with defeat plus some difficultly mods I am expecting to lose many fights.

 

Thematically it seems like the owner within this mod would hate to be on the receiving end. Mechanically I would advise staying away from requiring defeat which is why I am wondering if you can use a victim / aggressive flag to trigger an event later once in a safe(r) place.

[Hex Bolt]

Progress on the SLUTS harness for Pony Express.  I've reworked it so that instead of using the harness item from SLUTS, this mod implements its own harness item but uses the meshes from SLUTS.  The mod still avoids having to provide its own meshes, but it now controls the keywords on the harness so that it's no longer treated as clothing.

 

A big bonus is that the SLUTS harness was hiding worn items like the pony girl amulet and body piercings.  The new implementation keeps them visible.  The harness fits the character's body better, too.  The SLUTS harness does some odd things, so this gets away from that.  Coming soon in the next update.

[Hex Bolt]

1 hour ago, Jehuty599 said:

I am having this problem as well, I just kinda thought it was because of Serana and her wonky AI, and mods like these have issues with her. It was working on my older playthrough on an older version of Submissive Lola...I did just switch to DD5 though.

The logic hasn't changed.  I've confirmed that it still works, and I'm on unpatched DD 5.0 (so I should be seeing the maximum number of problems).  Be sure that Deny Masturbation is enabled.  It only applies if you're not told to do it.  It only applies to animations with the "Solo" or "Masturbation" tags that do not also have "FF", "MF", or "MM" tags.  You might check the animation that's playing for its tags.

 

I suppose it's also possible that you got unregistered for SexLab's PlayerSex_Start event.  You could check that by saving, leaving enslavement, and getting enslaved again (24 hour lockout on enslavement back to the previous owner).  Each enslavement reregisters you for the event.

 

1 hour ago, bubba999 said:

I have Lola's Mistress set to take 75% of the gold she gets. This works fine for selling gear but it doesn't work with Missives or Quest rewards.

It's a known and intentional limitation.  Gold sharing only applies to gold that comes from a container, be that a merchant's vendor chest (when trading) or a corpse or chest (when looting).  Otherwise, it will interfere with any scripts that give you gold, and will share any gold that you give yourself with the console (you might have very legitimate reasons for doing so).

 

I agree that it would be nice to have quest rewards get shared.  I've just been concerned about unintended consequences.  I'll look at adding an option to share all gold regardless of source and add a "Use At Own Risk" notice in the info text.

 

44 minutes ago, sportsfan said:

Follow-up question, is there a way for your owner to punish you if they are on the receiving end of aggressive sex (from the player or another npc)?

I think I can do that.  I'd want to check the SexLab victim flag, which indicates a real rape, not merely a "rough" animation (where the owner might be the giver, not the receiver).

 

Punishment options are limited, though.  I could reduce the submission score, but failure to prevent the owner's rape is probably beyond the PC's control (as in a combat defeat).  The owner will naturally be angry, but the cause is really incompetence, not lack of submissiveness.  The owner might think of you as useless, but not defiant.

 

I can't have the owner march over and whip you for it, because it could be a defeat scene or a prolonged gangbang.  I could work punishment into the daily update (when you might also get punished for not offering service enough), but that could be hours later.  The owner could take some of your gold, but Sub Lola isn't really about gold.  And how much would be enough?  Locking a device on you might work, but that would actually make another rape more likely if you're partly restrained.

 

This is also why I've held off on punishments other than zaps for in-combat friendly fire.  When combat ends, the situation is too uncertain for a punishment scene.

 

The best I can think of right now is adding a big bonus to your prostitution quota.  That sort of fits the "crime", and financially rewards the owner.  This requires more thought.

[Hex Bolt]

Version 2.0.8

 

Do not update while the Pony Express event is active.

 

New:  On the MCM Gold page, a new option "Share all gold" causes all gold (except from containers that you own) to be shared.

Spoiler

- Normally, gold sharing only applies to gold you get from containers, including the vendor chest during merchant trading.  Except for containers that you own, this option will share gold from ALL sources, including quest rewards, but also including gold that you add from the console.
- Rounding favors the owner.  At 50% sharing, picking up individual septims gives each one to the owner.

 

New:  A new Rules option on the MCM, "Must offer sex (per day)".

Spoiler

- Offer sex through the "Master?" dialog (existing behavior).
- If your owner is pleased that you offered, you get credit for offering sex even if the owner says not now.
- If your owner is angry, you do not get credit.
- If you fail your quota, you lose score based on how much you fell short, and you'll get punished as if you missed your "Minimum daily service".
- If you fail offering sex AND minimum daily service, you're still only punished once.
- Offering sex also counts as offering service (existing behavior).
- Offering sex to your owner does NOT satisfy sex requirements from other mods, like for Leon/Leah.

 

Changed:  Owner now gets angry if you offer sex over & over when he or she is not in the mood.
- Raise owner's arousal to get a "yes" response.  Nudity works.
- Remember that owner gains arousal from spanking or whipping you (twice as much if you request it).

Changed:  Hiring a mercenary for free in exchange for becoming the merc's slave now has a minimum 5 day contract.

Changed:  Required item punishments are suspended while the dialog window is open.

Changed:  The SLUTS pony girl harness (an option under Devices) has a new implementation.
- SLUTS must still be installed to use the harness, but this one doesn't hide jewelry or piercings.

Fixed:  The "Pout" response to one of the events was not ending the event.
Fixed:  For Pony Express, merchants were not reacting correctly to the different types of notes.

[bubba999]

Thanks Hexbolt8! Going to try the gold sharing soon.

[Hex Bolt]

24 minutes ago, bubba999 said:

Thanks Hexbolt8! Going to try the gold sharing soon.

 

Voice of your Mistress:  "Try it now, Lola.  I know where you've been hiding those septims."

[Hex Bolt]

For anyone interested in some submissive-female reading, I suggest Confessions of a Mailgirl, by C. Hawk (sometimes shown as Seahawk).  The title was the basis for the title of the "Confessions of a Slave" event, and the inspiration for the naked version of Run, Lola, Run.  It's modern day fantasy, mostly nudity and public humiliation, with light bondage elements.  Just when you think you know where the story is going, it surprises you.

[shadowwolf2k7]

not sure if i should post this here or on the extensions mod page.

 

i have a suggestion for a game were the owner will walk through town with the player following behind, they could go to 3 or more (set via a slider) shops. with options of wearing a full set of dds such as a gag, blindfold, arm binder/yoke and the rubber set (gloves, boots, and suit) or naked with the gag, blindfold, and arm binder/yoke. could have it more likely to happen after visiting high harathgar and being confirmed as the dragonborn.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, HexBolt8 said:

The logic hasn't changed.  I've confirmed that it still works, and I'm on unpatched DD 5.0 (so I should be seeing the maximum number of problems).  Be sure that Deny Masturbation is enabled.  It only applies if you're not told to do it.  It only applies to animations with the "Solo" or "Masturbation" tags that do not also have "FF", "MF", or "MM" tags.  You might check the animation that's playing for its tags.

 

I suppose it's also possible that you got unregistered for SexLab's PlayerSex_Start event.  You could check that by saving, leaving enslavement, and getting enslaved again (24 hour lockout on enslavement back to the previous owner).  Each enslavement reregisters you for the event.

 

MCM setup is correct, and the selected animation for masturbation has the right tags, as reported in Sexlab MCM.

I made a save game just before hiring the (vanilla behavior) follower and submitting to slavery in exchange for golds, so that I could reload, submit to the follower, wait a couple of in-game hours, complete the first assigned task, and try masturbation denial. I tried that several times and masturbation was never interrupted by the follower, so maybe for some reason PlayerSex_Start event registration in the BeginSlavery() function is failing, or, as you said, it gets unregistered right away. I also tried (only once) to leave enslavement and getting enslaved again after a day, and masturbation is still allowed.

 

I have downloaded your 30 Nov 2020 patch from MrEsturk topic (which I believe to be the one I was using on my previous setup), and I am going to try it instead of 2.07 to see if it makes any difference. One thing i noticed though, from a quick diff of script sources, is that in the old version, in the BeginSlavery() function, there is a TrackActor() call to "PlayerSex" just before the PlayerSex_Start event registration. I have no experience in skyrim scripting so I can't say if it is somehow relevant.

[sickomusiclovers]

Is is possible to register some armor parts like piercings (non dd) and other stuff as non forbidden items so they dont get removed when eye candy thing is active ? 

[bubba999]

It's me again! So the "share all gold" seems to be working as intended, thank you!

 

I have a request... I play a lot of different characters and now that I have spent a lot of time setting up the MCM just the way I like it... it would be great if there was a way to export my settings and then import them to another character.

If you would do that I would be eternally grateful!

 

 

[just_Gina]

@sickomusiclovers   Is is possible to register some armor parts like piercings (non dd) and other stuff as non forbidden items so they dont get removed when eye candy thing is active ? 

 

Better yet, allow us to chose which slots other than 32 will be counted. Some two piece armors only lose the chest piece and much of the jewelry is stripped away.

[sickomusiclovers]

37 minutes ago, just_Gina said:

@sickomusiclovers   Is is possible to register some armor parts like piercings (non dd) and other stuff as non forbidden items so they dont get removed when eye candy thing is active ? 

 

Better yet, allow us to chose which slots other than 32 will be counted. Some two piece armors only lose the chest piece and much of the jewelry is stripped away.

Ya that would be a good feature

[Koraten97]

 

In the last few days I have actively tried to get Thoughts running, I have also actively carried out your suggestions again and carefully checked them. Unfortunately, the result still remains that the game cannot read the file. Should you still come up with an idea, I would be happy to hear it, but I don't blame you for not working. For a reproach I would have to have a solution myself, why it would be inappropriate. One possibility, however, would be to provide the complete mod in a prefabricated state, so that you only have to add the mod yourself, do not have to make any changes and can start the game. Would definitely be worth a test. In any case, I thank you for the mod because it works great in all other areas, with small exceptions, and I like it a lot. For now, though, I'll leave the Thoughts section aside ...

sry for my englisch, google helps ^^

[Hex Bolt]

8 hours ago, deadayo said:

I tried that several times and masturbation was never interrupted by the follower

Here's something that you can try, though it won't work if you reverted to an older version.  The only change here is that I enabled an old debug statement that lists the animation and its tags in a pop-up message whenever the PC starts sex.  This replacement script will tell you whether PC sex events are being tracked and caught, and confirm the tags.

 

 

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