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Nice News about initial Oficial Modding Support from CdProjekt for Cyberpunk 2077, just a few Weeks after Release (Warhorse Studios do a good Job on Kingdom Come Deliverance, releasing Modding Tools, but too late IMO), the lack of intense Modding Scene though is because it is a very story-driven defined/tight Character Open World Game, not really a 'Sandbox with Replayability' neither with a lot of radiant Quests, Activities etc (like Bethesda Games)... but Cyberpunk 2077 Modding Scene has 'Potential'  to be 'better' than The Witcher 3 Scene (which is great considering the Tools released), and to be alike 'Bethesda Modding Scene', but that is more my desire than being realistic here, and is truly Sandbox/Open World Game with Replayability (a Key to boost Modding Scene)

 

It seems initial Release, I hope they add more Tools (not only Dumpers/Extractors), but Documentation for 3D Meshes (Animations, Skeletons included, maybe Jali Research API for own Lip-Sync and custom dubbed/Voice Mods... Design own on Quests , add Enemies Spawns, better INI/Functions/Code Reference and Map/Collisions, NavMeshes Editors/Viewers, that would be awesome.

 

... for People/Modders with Knowledge:

 

- What exactly they released today?, and makes that a Difference from previous 'Community Mod Tools? thanks.

- What is needed for import/export 3D Meshes/Bodies/Items and Animations/Skeletons?

- What is needed for Scripting/API driven Mods or custom Quests (I bet a proper Tools/Editors

- What is required for Sex/Adult Mods, at least custom Romances, JoyToys etc (we are here for that ;D)

 

Cheers

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1 hour ago, LuxidaOxida said:

Nice News about initial Oficial Modding Support from CdProjekt for Cyberpunk 2077,

 

That is really good news, because I have tested the CP77 tools and while they work extremely well for unpacking and even "uncooking" the files I personally have had no success with be able to run the game with the repacked files.

 

That is to say I unpacked with out uncooking or even modifying one of the smaller archive files, then repacked. The game started to load but right before start screen crashed out.

 

So hears hoping.

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2 hours ago, blanerocker120 said:

A lot of them are most likely not fully started or are in the works, but then again I heard from the youtuber, Open World Games. CDPR took down a mod where you could have sex with Jhonny Silverhand.

 

That is apparently the case although their reasons for doing so are based around Johnny Silverhand actually using Keanu's likeness, not just his voice, rather than shutting down mods, per se.

Either Sony or QD (or both) got in trouble when it was discovered they had created a (mostly) anatomically correct model of Ellen Page (OMG did I just dead name someone?) for a shower scene in Beyond Two Souls. It was only visible when the console was put into a dev mode, so wouldn't appear in normal game play but footage of it leaked and legal action began or was at least threatened. I am not sure what happened, I suspect it was settled out of court.

Anyway, I doubt CDPR would like not to have any more negative attention on their product and selves.

 

As for adult mods. I hope they are last on the agenda of the modding community. At least until the (mostly) negative attention surrounding everything about the game has died down.

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1 hour ago, Mez558 said:

That is apparently the case although their reasons for doing so are based around Johnny Silverhand actually using Keanu's likeness, not just his voice, rather than shutting down mods, per se.

Either Sony or QD (or both) got in trouble when it was discovered they had created a (mostly) anatomically correct model of Ellen Page (OMG did I just dead name someone?) for a shower scene in Beyond Two Souls. It was only visible when the console was put into a dev mode, so wouldn't appear in normal game play but footage of it leaked and legal action began or was at least threatened. I am not sure what happened, I suspect it was settled out of court.

Anyway, I doubt CDPR would like not to have any more negative attention on their product and selves.

 

As for adult mods. I hope they are last on the agenda of the modding community. At least until the (mostly) negative attention surrounding everything about the game has died down.

Thanks for clarifying it up. Too late for me type....

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5 hours ago, Mez558 said:

 

That is apparently the case although their reasons for doing so are based around Johnny Silverhand actually using Keanu's likeness, not just his voice, rather than shutting down mods, per se.

Either Sony or QD (or both) got in trouble when it was discovered they had created a (mostly) anatomically correct model of Ellen Page (OMG did I just dead name someone?) for a shower scene in Beyond Two Souls. It was only visible when the console was put into a dev mode, so wouldn't appear in normal game play but footage of it leaked and legal action began or was at least threatened. I am not sure what happened, I suspect it was settled out of court.

Anyway, I doubt CDPR would like not to have any more negative attention on their product and selves.

 

As for adult mods. I hope they are last on the agenda of the modding community. At least until the (mostly) negative attention surrounding everything about the game has died down.

How the hell is that even possible? Mods fall under fair use. CDPR can't do shit except ask someone to politely take it down. If they take it to court it'll be a back and forth trial of fair use. This is very different from CDPR putting it in the game themselves. 

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6 hours ago, prinyo said:

CDPR shuts down Cyberpunk mod that let players have 'sex' with Keanu Reeves

 

Not sure what the consequences of this way of thinking are since most mods that will be made will be able to be used with the model of Johnny Silverhand.

Them being idiotic. Mods fall under Fair Use. This has even been ruled on in the past and if you read their statement it basically says; "Please, please don't make this mod."  "Shut down" here is misleading. It should be titled "CDPR asks modders to stop mod." 

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1 hour ago, Grimnir said:

How the hell is that even possible? Mods fall under fair use. CDPR can't do shit except ask someone to politely take it down. If they take it to court it'll be a back and forth trial of fair use. This is very different from CDPR putting it in the game themselves. 

 

Mods may fall under fair use but the of use someone's likeness does not.

If the mod had not included Johnny Silverhand or Johnny Silverhand's in game model was not heavily based on Keanu Reeves then I doubt this would have happened.

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6 minutes ago, Mez558 said:

 

Mods may fall under fair use but the of use someone's likeness does not.

If the mod had not included Johnny Silverhand or Johnny Silverhand's in game model was not heavily based on Keanu Reeves then I doubt this would have happened.

Not true. The supreme court even ruled that using someone's likeness is fair use IF it is for "Educational and entertainment purposes", which mods definitely fall under.  You simply can't try to pass a fake off as real, use it for blackmail, or use it with the intent of tarnishing someone's reputation. 

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2 hours ago, Grimnir said:

Them being idiotic. Mods fall under Fair Use. This has even been ruled on in the past and if you read their statement it basically says; "Please, please don't make this mod."  "Shut down" here is misleading. It should be titled "CDPR asks modders to stop mod." 

 

Because of the way the mod distribution currently works, this is equal to "shutting down". There are 2 or 3 big websites with mods that always work with (side with) the publishers. If CDPR or Bethesda contacts Nexus or LL with a request to remove a mod there will be no "trial", no possibility to explain about the fair use and court rulings, the mod will disappear immediately.

The current mod distribution system relies on the good will of all sides and have managed to stay stable and "above ground" for quite some time.

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22 minutes ago, prinyo said:

 

Because of the way the mod distribution currently works, this is equal to "shutting down". There are 2 or 3 big websites with mods that always work with (side with) the publishers. If CDPR or Bethesda contacts Nexus or LL with a request to remove a mod there will be no "trial", no possibility to explain about the fair use and court rulings, the mod will disappear immediately.

The current mod distribution system relies on the good will of all sides and have managed to stay stable and "above ground" for quite some time.

Mods can exist outside of those sites. Also, CDPR in addition to not having a legal backing because of precedent, they also have lack of standing since they are not Keanue. CDPR has no standing on this. If sites want to not post them it's their choice, but as stated they have no legal grounds. They are simply bullying modders at this point. 

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Model swapper_1316 is the new version of the 'controversial Mod', Camtino, the Modder, just explained the situation and reuploaded new version of the mod without Keanu Reeves/Johnny Silverland, for me is fair what CdProjekt's said, and Camtino was kind to do that, others could distribute, etc Johnny Mod on other places, less 'respectful' with the 'appropiate', I don't care really, I prefer to don't push limits, that could drive CdProjekt to unplug further Modding Support... and this is not acceptable.

 

All is on mod description on NexusMods (the end of that controversy too)

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Nexus also removed the Lucy Liu character mod. My fear is other companies will  try this BS. Regardless I am done with CDPR and at this point if they go backrupt I won't shed a tear. Hell it might be the best thing considering how they are trying to single handedly destroy gaming. As for mod tools, full tools aren't ever going to happen, not with all the censorship they are doing. I'll just go play Fallout 4 again.  Furthermore license agreement mean jack when it comes to judicial rulings, especially supreme court rulings. CDPR can go to hell. End of rant. 

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On 1/28/2021 at 8:01 AM, Grimnir said:

Not true. The supreme court even ruled that using someone's likeness is fair use IF it is for "Educational and entertainment purposes", which mods definitely fall under.  You simply can't try to pass a fake off as real, use it for blackmail, or use it with the intent of tarnishing someone's reputation. 

 

https://www.venable.com/insights/publications/2016/09/when-can-i-use-a-persons-likeness-in-my-game

 

The above article serves no real purpose to support either of our arguements, I just added it for some info.

 

I don't refute that the supreme court ruled along those lines and I am not saying that any legal action, if taken, would be successful but following the "If's"

If CDPR did not ask for it to be taken down.

If Keanu's management became aware that their client's likeness was being used in the role of a "sex worker" and pursued legal action.

That story would be newsworthy, that would have more negative publicity for the game, CDPR and oh, Modding. And this story ends up shining it's SJW spotlight on Sites that specialise in Adult/Sex mods. Mods that are typically demeaning/degrading to female characters... add in sound bites like promoting misogynistic behaviour and toxic masculinity. And that is just here... Think what happens if that spotlight ends up on sites that don't have the same sort of rules this site does?

 

Whilst I can see your point that it just looks like bullying I honestly just see it as CDPR in damage control mode and not wanting to risk the news story that would result of any legal action. Let's wait for the dust to settle a bit first.

 

On a different note... How was this mod done? Did anyone see it?

Changing the Joytoy to any of the love interest characters I can see but JS only has a sex scene from his POV. How was the footage generated?

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On 1/28/2021 at 12:55 PM, Mez558 said:

 

https://www.venable.com/insights/publications/2016/09/when-can-i-use-a-persons-likeness-in-my-game

 

The above article serves no real purpose to support either of our arguements, I just added it for some info.

 

I don't refute that the supreme court ruled along those lines and I am not saying that any legal action, if taken, would be successful but following the "If's"

If CDPR did not ask for it to be taken down.

If Keanu's management became aware that their client's likeness was being used in the role of a "sex worker" and pursued legal action.

That story would be newsworthy, that would have more negative publicity for the game, CDPR and oh, Modding. And this story ends up shining it's SJW spotlight on Sites that specialise in Adult/Sex mods. Mods that are typically demeaning/degrading to female characters... add in sound bites like promoting misogynistic behaviour and toxic masculinity. And that is just here... Think what happens if that spotlight ends up on sites that don't have the same sort of rules this site does?

 

Whilst I can see your point that it just looks like bullying I honestly just see it as CDPR in damage control mode and not wanting to risk the news story that would result of any legal action. Let's wait for the dust to settle a bit first.

 

On a different note... How was this mod done? Did anyone see it?

Changing the Joytoy to any of the love interest characters I can see but JS only has a sex scene from his POV. How was the footage generated?

You assume Keanu's people would just randomly be searching on nexus. CDPR themselves brought this up. Look at how many celebrities are made on the sims. They have no legal standing. This is CDPR's  fault. This brought this to light. As I said also, they do not represent Keanu. Notice their request is just that, a request and nothing more. 

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Situations revolving around a celebrity's likeness/brand will always carry legal implications. Potential for bad PR is high and that's the last thing CDPR needs right now.

 

Usage of celebrity likenesses/fictionalizations in pornography and erotica, or other sexually explicit material, is highly sensitive ground. Whether it's legal or not doesn't really make much of a difference if it stirs up the pot.

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22 minutes ago, Nardy said:

Situations revolving around a celebrity's likeness/brand will always carry legal implications. Potential for bad PR is high and that's the last thing CDPR needs right now.

 

Usage of celebrity likenesses/fictionalizations in pornography and erotica, or other sexually explicit material, is highly sensitive ground. Whether it's legal or not doesn't really make much of a difference if it stirs up the pot.

They "stirred the pot" themselves. Do you really think Keanu has people looking online for sex mods involving him? There is also a thing called plausible deniability. They are doing what they have been doing since before Cyberpunk came out, pandering to the feminist/prude/twitter crowd. "See we are big moral people, we only allow certain mods in our games." 

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