Sexlab Survival SE

[ebbluminous]

On 10/23/2023 at 4:31 AM, Vaccinated Alligator said:

One of the biggest issues with Survival was the feature creep (though it was necessary when Skyrim LE was dominant, because of the plugin limit). Now, considering SE is way way more played than LE (and forums here reflect this too), smaller mods with a more focused scope are much easier to handle, since you can flag most of them as ESL and have up to 4096 in your game. One mod can put inequality/misogyny in-game, other can handle the toll system, other can handle the licences (BMLE already does that), other implements cum addiction... probably an entire book to summarize. Anyway, the tools to develop new mods with the same features remain available.

Tbh not so bothered it has gone. I only wanted a couple of small parts from SLS and one of those has been done by someone else. It was annoying to install SLS and deal with bugs for the areas I didn't want to use. It would of been better if Mono has broken it down into modules. If they do not come back, I am guessing other modders will re-create missing areas with their own spin on it.

[DayTri]

Monoman's post for this mod says these are the permissions:

 

Spoiler

Permissions

• You may not upload this file in full or in part outside of LL.
• You may use this mod for your own purposes provided anything you produce from it is provided for free back to the community with the following exceptions:
• I can't give permission for things I didn't create. This includes most meshes, textures and sounds. 

 

Nothing in this says the mod author has a right to restrict distribution of the mod outside LL or prevent people from using the mod or making things with the mod.

 

I don't know his reasons for leaving and wish him well, but I think loverslab should revisit its policy of giving mod authors more rights to their mods than even they claim to have. Of course if they want to create a license which is very restrictive that is OK, but giving extensive permissions and later taking everything down leads to the situation where other authors create dependencies on mods they believe are free to use, only for them to become private.

[R34x]

TYVM @Corsayr for maintaining this mod so long for SE users, your effort is much appreciated!

 

Hopefully we hear from Mono sometime in the near future and all is well.

[R34x]

12 minutes ago, DayTri said:

Monoman's post for this mod says these are the permissions:

 

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Permissions

• You may not upload this file in full or in part outside of LL.
• You may use this mod for your own purposes provided anything you produce from it is provided for free back to the community with the following exceptions:
• I can't give permission for things I didn't create. This includes most meshes, textures and sounds. 

 

Nothing in this says the mod author has a right to restrict distribution of the mod outside LL or prevent people from using the mod or making things with the mod.

 

I don't know his reasons for leaving and wish him well, but I think loverslab should revisit its policy of giving mod authors more rights to their mods than even they claim to have. Of course if they want to create a license which is very restrictive that is OK, but giving extensive permissions and later taking everything down leads to the situation where other authors create dependencies on mods they believe are free to use, only for them to become private.

 

I took issue when CEO pulled his mod when OSTIM originally became popular. Back then the LL admins / mods honored CEO's wishes, and he / she even developed a strong cult following on Discord that white knighted some rather despicable acts, including grieving the original OSTIM dev. LL Staff did nothing then in that much more egregious case, and I expect they'll do nothing now --- and tbh I hardly blame them.

 

At the end of the day, mods are IP, even if they violate Bethesda's TOS (which Beth pursuing legal avenues on that front would be a separate case entirely), and we can't fault LL for being cautious about getting themselves caught in legal jeopardy, especially considering some of the subject matter of this website.

 

I'm just glad Mono chose to bow out without making a huge scene like CEO did (who IMO is way worse than Arthmoor of USSEP infamy), and hopefully whenever the  issues that caused all of this are sorted out, Mono will return with more of his excellent work.

[VeraDra]

2 hours ago, R34x said:

 

I took issue when CEO pulled his mod when OSTIM originally became popular. Back then the LL admins / mods honored CEO's wishes, and he / she even developed a strong cult following on Discord that white knighted some rather despicable acts, including grieving the original OSTIM dev. LL Staff did nothing then in that much more egregious case, and I expect they'll do nothing now --- and tbh I hardly blame them.

 

At the end of the day, mods are IP, even if they violate Bethesda's TOS (which Beth pursuing legal avenues on that front would be a separate case entirely), and we can't fault LL for being cautious about getting themselves caught in legal jeopardy, especially considering some of the subject matter of this website.

 

I'm just glad Mono chose to bow out without making a huge scene like CEO did (who IMO is way worse than Arthmoor of USSEP infamy), and hopefully whenever the  issues that caused all of this are sorted out, Mono will return with more of his excellent work.

Unlikely.

 

For the time, I'd personally recommend anyone who's using these mods to make a backup of them and store it safely somewhere. As shown time and time again, when a mod author throws a fit, they tend to do so with nuclear intentions.

[RoxDox]

1 hour ago, VeraDra said:

Unlikely.

 

For the time, I'd personally recommend anyone who's using these mods to make a backup of them and store it safely somewhere. As shown time and time again, when a mod author throws a fit, they tend to do so with nuclear intentions.

You're 100% right. People can disagree with me all they want but I always keep backups of mods, video games, movies, etc..... Lets just call it preservation... I don't trust people to simply be good folks and keep things around or easily accessible for the foreseeable future. I don't feel the feelings of authors should be respected when they say "Pls no redistribute" if they're then going to nuke the file from the face of the planet. The moment anyone makes something inacessible, un-purchasble or even un-downloadable, it should become the duty of everyone to re-share and re-upload. 

[Mythosr]

This might not be the right place to ask but I would like to know what the issue concerning Monoman is? I have been using some of his mods including the 6.85 version of survival and they were pretty nice.

[lacie_]

before this thread gets nuked can anyone tell me how the cum swallowing event during oral is handled? is it through an ingestible and if so which one cos I can't figure it out. thanks

[Tlam99]

50 minutes ago, xcrunner15 said:

dude who built your house shows up later and burns it down

you paid for it you own it, your property. It's protected because it's yours. You want to have it protected, your property, isn't it ?

But vice versa, it seems you do not respect others property ?

[r3mind]

I mean there are already a couple of mods copying SLS functions with their own improvements and nobody complains. Obviously you can't just ctrl+c/ctrl+v somebody's mod, but changing enough things doesn't seem to raise any copyright issues here

[alsjdkmhasfdkljb]

On 10/23/2023 at 8:23 AM, gamerpk2 said:

for the destroy drenched license mechanic . it needs frostfall i believe . are you running frostfall

tbh its a super hard mechanic .

it ends up being a waiting game where the days it rains i end up waiting in real time for rain to pass ( since i cant waste precious hours for needing some money to renew liceneces and pay taxes )

and god does it rain in Skyrim for days nonestop

Thanks @gamerpk2! i dont have frostfall, so that explains what is going on. That feature will have to wait, i guess, until i can throw it in a list.

 

Its a shame there is so much controversy surrounding this mod right now. It really is fun. Glad i got a copy, before this all went down, though

 

cheers!

[Dasha117]

On 10/24/2023 at 7:14 PM, DayTri said:

Monoman's post for this mod says these are the permissions:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Permissions

• You may not upload this file in full or in part outside of LL.
• You may use this mod for your own purposes provided anything you produce from it is provided for free back to the community with the following exceptions:
• I can't give permission for things I didn't create. This includes most meshes, textures and sounds. 

 

Nothing in this says the mod author has a right to restrict distribution of the mod outside LL or prevent people from using the mod or making things with the mod.

 

I don't know his reasons for leaving and wish him well, but I think loverslab should revisit its policy of giving mod authors more rights to their mods than even they claim to have. Of course if they want to create a license which is very restrictive that is OK, but giving extensive permissions and later taking everything down leads to the situation where other authors create dependencies on mods they believe are free to use, only for them to become private.

 

I have talked to Monoman before about editing SLS or his other mods and he is generally very chill about it as long as we credit him.

 

13 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

before this thread gets nuked can anyone tell me how the cum swallowing event during oral is handled? is it through an ingestible and if so which one cos I can't figure it out. thanks

Define what you mean? it simply signs up for orgasm events from either sexlab or SLSO. then it prompts you if you want to spit/swallow... done... if you mean how you "ingest" the cum. it is just potions/items added into the esp/esm that you consume.

 

12 hours ago, xcrunner15 said:

Modding community in general needs to loosen up on perms. Nexus will still ban you on the spot if you upload a mod without permission even if the author was last seen in 2011. You would think LL would be a lot more chill. I mean really, you guys are out here raping and being raped by virtual animals but you still get in line and follow the rules to the letter? Be fr

 

Modders right to be an asshat and take down their shit is not a right we need to respect. Bad enough to see nexus cucking for arthmoor.

 

I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears though. I left Skyrim mod scene just before SE and whatever happened with paid mods and the Nexus/arthmooe controversies must've traumatized y'all cuz what was once a very collaborative community now is splintered in a million different patreons and discords all claiming to have the best stuff and we even got crazies like the wabbajack team implementing their own DRM completely voluntarily with no connection to Bethesda, the super rich company that's sold us Skyrim 3 times at least.

 

I know I'm rambling and tbh I have this mod secured. It just upsets me that we let people walk all over us for no good reason. Imagine the dude who built your house shows up later and burns it down bc he got bored and wanted to quit. Extreme example sure but where do you draw the line. What if sexlab and ostim both got pulled completely. Would y'all just lie down and take it? How about sse display fixes or even worse what if SKSE killed itself? It would be the end of the mod scene and from what I've seen recently I fully believe people would just let it happen

 

On the mods I make I just throw a "I do not care, do what you want" type thing lol. worked with someone else to edit/improve one of monons old mods (with his permission). then remade the cum swallow stuff into its own thing. started off by copy/paste of his stuff but very little actually remains of his original work. this was all before he even left us. I just didnt like the LookAt feature of SLS as i  used IFPV but I liked the cum features... so I made my own thing based on his.

 

10 hours ago, Vigor said:

I mean there are already a couple of mods copying SLS functions with their own improvements and nobody complains. Obviously you can't just ctrl+c/ctrl+v somebody's mod, but changing enough things doesn't seem to raise any copyright issues here

I always ask ahead of time before making edits to other people mods or taking from it. shockingly some get back even though they haven't been active in years. i have ran into very few modders who have a problem with it. most just care that you are also doing this for fun and you give them credit/make it free.

 

 

[lacie_]

8 hours ago, Dasha117 said:

 

Define what you mean? it simply signs up for orgasm events from either sexlab or SLSO. then it prompts you if you want to spit/swallow... done... if you mean how you "ingest" the cum. it is just potions/items added into the esp/esm that you consume.

 

 

 

Sorry I should have been more specific. I tried making a patch for SunHelm and Dynamic Weight System to detect swallow as food. It worked for all the inventory potions and I also made one for MME that was working correctly, but for some reason I couldn't get it to detect swallow during a SL anim as an ingestible. I used the cum potions from all playable races but I thought maybe the swallow event uses a different ingestible than the ones I patched? I'm not sure. I am pretty sure it is an ingestible thought since Realistic Needs and Disease can detect it, but I'm just not sure which one it is.

Edited October 26, 2023 by asdj1239

[Dasha117]

6 hours ago, asdj1239 said:

 

Sorry I should have been more specific. I tried making a patch for SunHelm and Dynamic Weight System to detect swallow as food. It worked for all the inventory potions and I also made one for MME that was working correctly, but for some reason I couldn't get it to detect swallow during a SL anim as an ingestible. I used the cum potions from all playable races but I thought maybe the swallow event uses a different ingestible than the ones I patched? I'm not sure. I am pretty sure it is an ingestible thought since Realistic Needs and Disease can detect it, but I'm just not sure which one it is.

I added an interface with my mod for sunhelm. I just add a warmth buff depending on the load size. Feel free to steal from my mod or get ideas from it.

Edited October 26, 2023 by Dasha117

[lacie_]

5 hours ago, Dasha117 said:

I added an interface with my mod for sunhelm. I just add a warmth buff depending on the load size. Feel free to steal from my mod or get ideas from it.

 

oh you're the one who made the needs addon haha. I have already taken a peek at your mod (was mostly just looking at the esp for an ingestible I had missed) but unfortunately I'm a dumb python coder and papyrus confuses the hell out of me. I'll have a proper look at the warmth script though, do you mind if I dm you if I get confused about something?

Edited October 26, 2023 by asdj1239

[Dasha117]

42 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

 

oh you're the one who made the needs addon haha. I have already taken a peek at your mod (was mostly just looking at the esp for an ingestible I had missed) but unfortunately I'm a dumb python coder and papyrus confuses the hell out of me. I'll have a proper look at the warmth script though, do you mind if I dm you if I get confused about something?

Go ahead. For sun helm integration i just add a magic effect for warmth. So it is not so much eating the cum. Otherwise you would have to like make a cum ingredient object... add "warmth" value to it... then consume it when triggered.... i didnt do that method because it was more work lol. So i just grab the magic effects that warm you over like 300 seconds from the SunHelm mod and apply it when you swallow cum. Good enough for my purposes. 

[xcrunner15]

On 10/26/2023 at 4:59 PM, Dasha117 said:

Go ahead. For sun helm integration i just add a magic effect for warmth. So it is not so much eating the cum. Otherwise you would have to like make a cum ingredient object... add "warmth" value to it... then consume it when triggered.... i didnt do that method because it was more work lol. So i just grab the magic effects that warm you over like 300 seconds from the SunHelm mod and apply it when you swallow cum. Good enough for my purposes. 

So just like every other skyrim mod lol nothing wrong with using magic if it gets the job done. It's also a good scalable solution. If you wanted to expand the mod to track NPCs you can use SPID to give everyone a status effect in the cold and then your solution would probably just work with it. If you make a warmth value you'd still probably need SPID to give NPCs something with a script attached and track 2 numerical values per NPC instead of just tracking their HP

[-Karen-]

Would someone be so generous as to make a list of mods that replace the features of this dying mod? I think it would be a good contribution to the community. ?

[VeraDra]

36 minutes ago, -Karen- said:

Would someone be so generous as to make a list of mods that replace the features of this dying mod? I think it would be a good contribution to the community. ?

AFAIK there's some features from this mod that haven't been replicated elsewhere (yet). Though, given how the mod is now (pretty much confirmed to be) abandoned, there's now a void to be filled.

 

And inconveniently, competition does exist in modding, so that void may not exist for super long.

[Guest]

If anyone has any of the downloads for the SE versions of Wartimes, Sexlab Survival, and/or Spank That Ass, would they be willing to share privately?

 

In Monoman's goodbye post he listed his number one reason for taking the files down as not wanting to have to deal with constant requests for support & help, so I pinky promise I won't ask him (or anyone else) for support.

 

I did a clean Skyrim & modlist install literally the day before he took everything down and when I went to redownload those files they were gone. It was actually a really surreal feeling.

I'm sorry to be badgering people about this, I just want to play some of my favourite mods again. Thanks.

[MrNok]

How do I get oral inflation to work? I use SLS 0.685 BETA and FHU 1.96. Also tried this and this patch, didn't help. Any suggestions?

[Tlam99]

On 10/30/2023 at 2:52 AM, VeraDra said:

And inconveniently, competition does exist in modding, so that void may not exist for super long.

Sounds to me like generated by an AI lacking some basic human features.

[VeraDra]

16 hours ago, Tlam99 said:

Sounds to me like generated by an AI lacking some basic human features.

what

[NiffyFox]

So what's going on with this? or is it another situation where LL is removing this mod because of the zoophilla content.

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, NiffyFox said:

So what's going on with this? or is it another situation where LL is removing this mod because of the zoophilla content.

No, the author decided to remove it.