Naked Defeat LE

[thomastm]

20 hours ago, bnub345 said:

 

Sounds like you're using SLU+ and something is overwriting the scripts. If that's the case, make sure nothing is overwriting SLU+ and/or move it to the bottom of your load order. If you're not using SLU+, I have no idea what is going on.

SLU+ = Sexlab Utility Plus? TQ. 

Edited December 7, 2021 by thomastm

[bnub345]

15 minutes ago, thomastm said:

SLU+ = Sexlab Utility Plus?

 

Yeah, the main mod in OsmelMC's mod tweaks.

[thomastm]

On 12/6/2021 at 9:55 PM, Nymra said:

 

does this only happen for Naked defeat? or also when you start sex with other mods? or when you use furnitures when the mod is not running? try that first. 

Turn invisible and stuck after first sex animation in binding phase. after I break free still invisible & stuck.  Also I make sure nothing overwrite Naked defeat.

Edited December 7, 2021 by thomastm

[Nymra]

17 minutes ago, thomastm said:

Turn invisible and stuck after first sex animation in binding phase. after I break free still invisible & stuck.  Also I make sure nothing overwrite Naked defeat.

 

nothing can overwrite naked defeat that can cause this. something else seems to be broken in your game. 

if you want any help at all, I need a papyrus log of that situation, maybe I can see something that points us to the problem.

 

[thomastm]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

nothing can overwrite naked defeat that can cause this. something else seems to be broken in your game. 

if you want any help at all, I need a papyrus log of that situation, maybe I can see something that points us to the problem.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, thomastm said:

 

Papyrus.0.log 1.82 MB · 0 downloads

 

EDIT: sorry a sentence got accidently deleted:

 

I cannot see anything caused by Naked Defeat that directly leads to a problem. Everything seems to be in order of things.

however there is an error message that points to Sexlab, I have no idea what it does, it could be a wrong installation of sexlab, I have never seen this errors happen in my game

 

Hence the question 3 below.
 

also there are alot of errors surrounding the Nemesis.

 

Questions:

1. are your problems also happening when different mods start sex? 

2. can you use a zap furniture without turning invisible that is NOT created by Naked Defeat?

3. are you on SE by any chance? Or even AE? (since this is the LE support thread)

 

When you cannot answer these questions I will not help you any further, I NEED to know if this is ONLY happening on Naked Defeat.

 

Things you could try:

- make sure you have installed Nemesis correctly -> better use FNIS, I will not support problems with Nemesis

- make sure you have installed the correct version of Sexlab and if you have it installed Sexlab Utility+ (NOTHING can overwrite Sexlab Utility+)

 

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Nymra

[PubliusNV]

Trying out this mod for the first time and so far it's working well. However, I have a question. Is FadeTats a requirement to make the rape hands go away?

[Nymra]

13 minutes ago, PubliusNV said:

Trying out this mod for the first time and so far it's working well. However, I have a question. Is FadeTats a requirement to make the rape hands go away?

yes

[Grey Cloud]

What's the latest on this mod working with Public Whore? Is it still what it says on your description page about the guard interaction dialogue thing?

[Nymra]

12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

What's the latest on this mod working with Public Whore? Is it still what it says on your description page about the guard interaction dialogue thing?

 

no. Naked Defeat does not do anything with the guard dialogue anymore, nor will it require the guard dialogue at all. I completly changed how the quests starts.

 

[Grey Cloud]

11 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

no. Naked Defeat does not do anything with the guard dialogue anymore, nor will it require the guard dialogue at all. I completly changed how the quests starts.

 

Thank you. I'll have a go with ND then. ?

[Nymra]

Update News:

 

With thanks to my patreons the next update will be centered around improved follower integration.
 

Planned improvements for Followers:
- pin followers in place and force idles on them (no more running around)
-----> bleedout, surrender, bound and unbound and furniture idles
- furniture idles for followers (not so many different furniture as the player tho.)
- follower scenes and idles will play in close vicinity of the Player
- detection of custom followers via MCM "name" option
----> means you can enter names (up to 3) of followers that are not having the "Current Follower Faction"
- currently I m working with Nethers Follower Framework, it seems to be the latest development in that regard
- add compatibility patches for Specator Crowds, Spank that ass and other mods to prevent followers from beeing used there
- sex and furniture will support up to 2 followers for now, I dont know yet how complicated that alone will be. one follower works quite well already.

 

After this update, which I will hopefully bring in december, I will start working on better DD integration.

 

[no_way]

On 12/3/2021 at 10:37 AM, Nymra said:

Some WIP news and updates:

 

New Features I am working on:

 

"Placeable Floor"

This is meant to improve immersion and prevent Sex scenes from floating or partially floating.

Why?
I noticed that especially out in the wild or in dungeons, for example in caves it can be very hard to find a suitable spot in time that is looking good for sex scenes.

I m a bit a a perfectionist when it comes to that and I HATE FLOATING!! 

 

 

This is my prototype, basically a skyrim mesh that I made a bit wider. It will be placed at the spot where the player surrenders as additional ground support.

I m not sure if I will just make it an On/Off Option, allowing the debug key to remove it if not required.

 

I also plan on location based automation, placing it only outside and in caves.

Maybe I will make it a hotkey feature too. 

And of course I want to add different floor types, ideally suitable to the location, too.

 

I also hope that this improves how some furnitures look. and maybe the fur will be removed, we dont want to have it too comfortable for our defeated girls 

 

This is awesome.  Not a fan of the current "sneak to a better location" to be honest, breaks the immersion for me, but this is a great idea if putting in the crawl/bleedout animation is not in the pipeline.

 

Any chance of tweaking the defeat initiation mechanism to actually be more like regular defeat i.e. no use of essential player status?  Currently just using the strip item critical defeat to give all enemies a random chance of knockdown regardless of their relative level to me, but it seems to really mess with the character actually being able to die immersively, the camera gets all locked/borked when the "you can't continue fighting" line triggers and you have 'kill player on bleedout' option on, can't see any of the awesome death anims or ragdolls I installed properly.

 

[Nymra]

17 minutes ago, no_way said:

 

This is awesome.  Not a fan of the current "sneak to a better location" to be honest, breaks the immersion for me, but this is a great idea if putting in the crawl/bleedout animation is not in the pipeline.

I actually use crawl anmations for my sneaking normally, since I never use sneak as actual... sneak.

At some point I want to replace it with crawl animations from the get go, exactly. 

 

17 minutes ago, no_way said:

Any chance of tweaking the defeat initiation mechanism to actually be more like regular defeat i.e. no use of essential player status?  Currently just using the strip item critical defeat to give all enemies a random chance of knockdown regardless of their relative level to me, but it seems to really mess with the character actually being able to die immersively, the camera gets all locked/borked when the "you can't continue fighting" line triggers and you have 'kill player on bleedout' option on, can't see any of the awesome death anims or ragdolls I installed properly.

 

dieing and reloading is so 20th century, no?

yeah, I think I know now how to make the essentiality an MCM toggle, so this I might be able to implement this.

The current implementation was just a placeholder until I knew more about that stuff.

 

[Randamaster]

Sounds like an cool update, exactly what I missed so far.

 

I don't have a defeat mod installed right now, so I wonder... Is it the better way to wait for this, or can I update later without problems?

[Nymra]

26 minutes ago, Randamaster said:

Sounds like an cool update, exactly what I missed so far.

 

I don't have a defeat mod installed right now, so I wonder... Is it the better way to wait for this, or can I update later without problems?

 

I do all I can to avoid a new game requirement for updates. To date I have 200 hours profile without new game starting, mod still works. 
It MIGHT be required to do a clean reinstall, but only if a bug turns up, deactivating before the update usually does the job for me,.

[evilblade]

Something has broken and stuck somewhere  My character doesn't surrender anymore when I press the "debug" button and the battle goes on. (Don't know about the bleedout though 'cause I'm playing with Everyone Dies https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75446 and when my lifebar is 0 I just die and the game reloads.)

Neither dis-/enabling the mod, nor save/load, nor restarting the entire game helped..

Is there some command maybe to give this mod a kick-(re)start? Or the only thing's left for me to do is un-/installing the mod?

 

UPD: Just tried it without Everyone Dies - it also doesn't work  Just when my health reaches 0 - my character gets down on a knee and then imideately she's back on her feet with a full lifebar and the battle continues, rinse and repeat...

Edited December 11, 2021 by evilblade

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, evilblade said:

Something has broken and stuck somewhere  My character doesn't surrender anymore when I press the "debug" button and the battle goes on. (Don't know about the bleedout though 'cause I'm playing with Everyone Dies https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/75446 and when my lifebar is 0 I just die and the game reloads.)

Neither dis-/enabling the mod, nor save/load, nor restarting the entire game helped..

Is there some command maybe to give this mod a kick-(re)start? Or the only thing's left for me to do is un-/installing the mod?

 

UPD: Just tried it without Everyone Dies - it also doesn't work  Just when my health reaches 0 - my character gets down on a knee and then imideately she's back on her feet with a full lifebar and the battle continues, rinse and repeat...

 

its is not recommended to use naked defeat together with such mods.

its likely that Naked Defeat got "confused" with the Everyone dies mod. Meaning when you die, maybe naked defeat tried to activate and somehow this transition maybe made it into the loaded game (i had such weird behaviour... one of the reasons why die and relaod is a bad thing in skyrim.

 

Things you could try:

- make a NEW GAME without Everyone dies and see if you can reproduce this issue
- if it does not happen again, you could try to salvage your other savegame by going back to a save that works, uninstall everybody dies and go from there (you can use "kill player on bleedout" toggle instead in Naked Defeat MCM)

- in the save game where the problem happens: try a clean reinstall of naked defeat and also manually delete all nade_ scripts via resaver. shut the mod down first

- make a papyrus log when you try to surrender and have that problem, maybe I can see something.

- also could make a papyrus log when you die and the game reloads, maybe I see what kind of activity is maybe causing this

 

For future reference:
I plan on adding a toggle for esssential player, (the current "kill player on bleedout" is only a bad workaround), in your case toggling essential player off should solve the problemm but I am not entirely sure

Edited December 11, 2021 by Nymra

[ticalosul]

I keep on getting attacked after getting defeated, one acor starts the rape the other ones keep attacking, how do I fix this please help!

[Nymra]

3 hours ago, ticalosul said:

I keep on getting attacked after getting defeated, one acor starts the rape the other ones keep attacking, how do I fix this please help!

 

try to install the latest version and see if that helps.

also is this happening all the time or just in some special situation with a certain type of enemy? 

[Nymra]

Testing the Follower Scenes is really tiring, but at least I am making progress...

[Nymra]

The new forced masturbation (with whipping) Scenario:

 

[thomastm]

On 12/8/2021 at 10:20 AM, Nymra said:

 

EDIT: sorry a sentence got accidently deleted:

 

I cannot see anything caused by Naked Defeat that directly leads to a problem. Everything seems to be in order of things.

however there is an error message that points to Sexlab, I have no idea what it does, it could be a wrong installation of sexlab, I have never seen this errors happen in my game

 

Hence the question 3 below.
 

also there are alot of errors surrounding the Nemesis.

 

Questions:

1. are your problems also happening when different mods start sex? 

2. can you use a zap furniture without turning invisible that is NOT created by Naked Defeat?

3. are you on SE by any chance? Or even AE? (since this is the LE support thread)

 

When you cannot answer these questions I will not help you any further, I NEED to know if this is ONLY happening on Naked Defeat.

 

Things you could try:

- make sure you have installed Nemesis correctly -> better use FNIS, I will not support problems with Nemesis

- make sure you have installed the correct version of Sexlab and if you have it installed Sexlab Utility+ (NOTHING can overwrite Sexlab Utility+)

 

 

Yes Nemesis is the culprit, everything work fine now, the only bug left is when I surrender there a 50% chance that the rape scene won't trigger and my PC is stuck, maybe you can add a unstuck tool? 

Papyrus.0.log

Edited December 14, 2021 by thomastm

[Nymra]

28 minutes ago, thomastm said:

Yes Nemesis is the culprit, everything work fine now, the only bug left is when I surrender there a 50% chance that the rape scene won't trigger and my PC is stuck, maybe you can add a unstuck tool? 

Papyrus.0.log 1.35 MB · 1 download

 

can it be that you use Forced Bathing chance in the MCM but do not have the GoldenShowers SLAL pack installed?
Try to set "Forced Bathing" in MCM / Defeat / to 0% and try again.

[Nymra]

coming closer and closer to the next release.

Main features will be better handling of followers (up to 2 atm) with full idleas and sex scenes.

 

(spot the followers :D)