crococat Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 Playing in SE. All was ok, but scenarios didnot start always. So install DDEquip and ND outfits for DDE. Scenarious still cannot start. When i check "unequip DD" in ND MCM it do it with no problems and equip its yoke or belt also. But then have message that scenario cannot start and then become free. Sometimes when strugling after rape have this: "Sorry, for testing propose your freedom is chancelled" And my girl suffers hard with no end. She is happy, but i am worried about her.
Nymra Posted October 30, 2021 Author Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, crococat said: Playing in SE. All was ok, but scenarios didnot start always. So install DDEquip and ND outfits for DDE. Scenarious still cannot start. When i check "unequip DD" in ND MCM it do it with no problems and equip its yoke or belt also. But then have message that scenario cannot start and then become free. Sometimes when strugling after rape have this: "Sorry, for testing propose your freedom is chancelled" And my girl suffers hard with no end. She is happy, but i am worried about her. if you are on SE, please use the SE support thread. Scenarios have a chance to start you can set in MCM. if its not 100% scenarios will not always happen. There is no message that a scenario started (yet). Quote But then have message that scenario cannot start and then become free. I have no idea what kind of message that might be, there is no such message afaik. Quote Sometimes when strugling after rape have this: "Sorry, for testing propose your freedom is chancelled" And my girl suffers hard with no end. She is happy, but i am worried about her. Disabling "Show debug messages" in MCM - System solves this. Edited October 30, 2021 by Nymra
crococat Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Nymra said: Disabling "Show debug messages" in MCM - System solves this. This not help. But already resolved. Had in MCM settings something like "Snade debug punishment type" seted to 1 or 2. When set it to 0 defeat strugling become capable to set pc free. Dont know why my MCM has not translated right. All other english mods mcms are ok. But same thing was also far ago with Naked Dangeons mcm. How can i solve this? Quote
crococat Posted October 30, 2021 Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Nymra said: I have no idea what kind of message that might be, there is no such message afaik. Quote
Coco1111 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/29/2021 at 7:15 AM, Nymra said: thats just a wrong number, sorry. if you download and install 4-0 u have 4.0 installed ? Infront thanks for your great Work!!! Have the same, just wonder why, but when you install Version 4 with or without Upate 4.01, in Mcm standing exat Version 3.2 beta 4 !!! Will be a nice to have some more Options for Public Rape, like 2 or 1 Times the Day or somethings. I go up to 300, but the scenario always happens far too often for my feeling. The Animations to start Events is a bit boring? Maybe there some other, but maybe it's just only my Feeling. Greetings
donttouchmethere Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, crococat said: Dont know why my MCM has not translated right. All other english mods mcms are ok. But same thing was also far ago with Naked Dangeons mcm. How can i solve this? Rename "Naked Defeat_ENGLISH.TXT" according to your game language. For example: "Naked Defeat_russian.TXT" Edited October 31, 2021 by donttouchmethere 1
Nymra Posted October 31, 2021 Author Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Coco1111 said: Infront thanks for your great Work!!! Have the same, just wonder why, but when you install Version 4 with or without Upate 4.01, in Mcm standing exat Version 3.2 beta 4 !!! as mentioned several times now, the version number in the MCM can be ignored, I just forgot to change it, it does nothing. 1 hour ago, Coco1111 said: Will be a nice to have some more Options for Public Rape, like 2 or 1 Times the Day or somethings. I go up to 300, but the scenario always happens far too often for my feeling. yeah, the feature needs further adjustments, I have a lot of plans already and alot to consider compatibilitywise too. the goal is to make it a mini game where the player behaviour in the cities actually matter (similar in a way to horrible harrassment where, I think, you can trigger it by bumping into people). 1 hour ago, Coco1111 said: The Animations to start Events is a bit boring? Maybe there some other, but maybe it's just only my Feeling. what exactly do you mean, which animations? the surrender poses? the bound idles?
Nymra Posted October 31, 2021 Author Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, fahrockza said: Help me it's another bug out of FAQ did you try the solution from the FAQ? Edited October 31, 2021 by Nymra
fahrockza Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 8 hours ago, Nymra said: did you try the solution from the FAQ? It's can pressed only Calmquest
Nymra Posted October 31, 2021 Author Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, fahrockza said: It's can pressed only Calmquest ???? No idea what you want to tell me. In case you are stuck in that 500, try click on it until it is 1000. if that does not work, try in console "setstage nade_calmquest 1000" if it happens again send me a full papyrus log from the situation. Edited October 31, 2021 by Nymra
Coco1111 Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 15 hours ago, Nymra said: what exactly do you mean, which animations? the surrender poses? the bound idles? I mean the holy Surender Poses Szenarios mostly at the Public Rape. In Mind more Dialogs or Comments or realistic Scenes (Like somebody catch you from behind or something ) better both. Now it start with a whistle Sound, after the victim is crawling on the Ground ... (and why, what is going on?) Or the Washing Szene, maybee needs some spezial Commands (just feel something missing) I'm not a Modder and your Mod is in development and respect for work, from my side, it's just a little Inspiration not more. So far ... my Greetings
Nymra Posted October 31, 2021 Author Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coco1111 said: I mean the holy Surender Poses Szenarios mostly at the Public Rape. In Mind more Dialogs or Comments or realistic Scenes (Like somebody catch you from behind or something ) better both. scenes are some of the most complicated things to do in skyrim. I have some ideas I want to test, but for whipping first. if that works, I might extend the system to other situations, but only then. Dialogues I never bothered with because I dont like unvoiced dialogue. with the new dialogue auto voices available I changed that view and so at some point we will indeed have dialogue. Dont expect it to happen alot tho, since I will not add dialogue for dialogue sake, but only if it gives you some choices that matter. Bakas Horrible Harrassment already has the grapling from behing. 3 minutes ago, Coco1111 said: Now it start with a whistle Sound, after the victim is crawling on the Ground ... (and why, what is going on?) it is for your convenience, so you can find a spot suitable for rape instead of beeing fucked clipping half through a wall and floating in mid air. the narrative is easy: you are caught committing a crime and the guards guide you to a spot where they can see you clearly (I will in fact add a comment that is saying that for human actors in the future). But this part will never be automated, because that is impossible to script. 3 minutes ago, Coco1111 said: Or the Washing Szene, maybee needs some spezial Commands (just feel something missing) commands like?
indolu Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 I have used this mod in place of sexlab defeat and death alternative and its great. There is only one thing that i would love to see with this mod however. Some way to prevent certain attackers. Sometimes when i go down, my own allies would join in (not followers to be clear). This could be done in 2 ways, either with a reputation system, or with a strike down system. Reputation would disallow them as attackers if your reputation exceeds a certain amount. With strike down it would look at either just the person who striked you down, or their factions and only allow attackers based on that. Im not really a modder so i dont know how hard this would be to actually implement.
Nymra Posted November 1, 2021 Author Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, indolu said: I have used this mod in place of sexlab defeat and death alternative and its great. There is only one thing that i would love to see with this mod however. Some way to prevent certain attackers. Sometimes when i go down, my own allies would join in (not followers to be clear). This could be done in 2 ways, either with a reputation system, or with a strike down system. Reputation would disallow them as attackers if your reputation exceeds a certain amount. With strike down it would look at either just the person who striked you down, or their factions and only allow attackers based on that. Im not really a modder so i dont know how hard this would be to actually implement. I m aware of this issue, while I admit that since I only play with 1 PC and 0 follower, summons or other stuff, I really only know 1 girl vs Skyrim. That was also the focus of the development. Followers will be handled better in the future, that is already planned (starting with vanilla follower system). As for other allies: I honestly have zero experience to date on how to work with those. I just remember from Deviously Enslaved Continued, that morality/relationship stuff was totally messy and impossible to configure in a understandable way for me. The faction solution you describe is the most likely thing for me to implement, since I am already familiar with those. thx for the feedback
indolu Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Nymra said: I m aware of this issue, while I admit that since I only play with 1 PC and 0 follower, summons or other stuff, I really only know 1 girl vs Skyrim. That was also the focus of the development. Followers will be handled better in the future, that is already planned (starting with vanilla follower system). As for other allies: I honestly have zero experience to date on how to work with those. I just remember from Deviously Enslaved Continued, that morality/relationship stuff was totally messy and impossible to configure in a understandable way for me. The faction solution you describe is the most likely thing for me to implement, since I am already familiar with those. thx for the feedback Oh no, sorry if i was unclear, followers worked pretty great. In my experience they went down when i did, and then got used when i did. Followers work great. My point was allies other than followers. As an example i was leaving helgan with my follower (from DCL) and Ralof. I went and antagonized the bandits close to there, and ended up going down. Ralof and the bandits joined in to use me and Chloe. If its already on your 'to do list' then yeah, everything is good. Cant ask for much more than that.
Nymra Posted November 2, 2021 Author Posted November 2, 2021 15 hours ago, indolu said: Oh no, sorry if i was unclear, followers worked pretty great. In my experience they went down when i did, and then got used when i did. Followers work great. Yeah, I understood that part. I want to improve the integration even more still. I dunno if all follower frameworks are working correctly and also I want sex for all followers not just one. Also I will try to change the position of the first follower for rape, so both scenes play close to each other. 15 hours ago, indolu said: My point was allies other than followers. As an example i was leaving helgan with my follower (from DCL) and Ralof. I went and antagonized the bandits close to there, and ended up going down. Ralof and the bandits joined in to use me and Chloe. If its already on your 'to do list' then yeah, everything is good. Cant ask for much more than that. There are a gazillion problems with stuff like that, sadly, but I am quite confident that I can use some player ally factions to at least exclude allies as you mentioned. thx for pointing this out anyway, I was not thinking of that
Nymra Posted November 2, 2021 Author Posted November 2, 2021 Next update will come soon. - some minor bugfixes - improved automated tag system (tags should now match the gender composition of the group) - new Feature: forced hair change (will including shaving and also a simple system to revert to your original hairstyle. -----> sadly some hair style mods are incompatible (wrong naming in their ESP) but I think I can release compatibility patches for them).
tekuusne Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 My character always forgets to close her mouth after a Naked Defeat scenario. I tried setting pain expressions on and off and toggling the expression settings in Sexlab, but nothing seemed to make any difference. Using mfg reset works of course. Spoiler
Nymra Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 9 hours ago, tekuusne said: My character always forgets to close her mouth after a Naked Defeat scenario. I tried setting pain expressions on and off and toggling the expression settings in Sexlab, but nothing seemed to make any difference. Using mfg reset works of course. Reveal hidden contents try disabling and reenabling the mod again. technically this bug should not longer happen tho... but in the end its skyrim and when it happens all the time, hmmm. I will see that I add a debug function to the surrender key, so you can reset expression with 1 key press at least. but on the long run I hope I can find and fix that
Wolfram.. Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Nymra said: try disabling and reenabling the mod again. technically this bug should not longer happen tho... but in the end its skyrim and when it happens all the time, hmmm. I will see that I add a debug function to the surrender key, so you can reset expression with 1 key press at least. but on the long run I hope I can find and fix that I found that running a sexlab animation "cured" the problem..In other words make the character use face expression(s)..
Nymra Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wolfram.. said: I found that running a sexlab animation "cured" the problem..In other words make the character use face expression(s).. cured as in it did not happen again or cured in it fixed it once and after the next defeat it was the same open mouth? for me I noticed I use random expressions, so it fixes itself basically. tried on my test profile but cannot always reproduce it, so I think in the end it might be a random thing (but I still keep an eye out so report back how 4.1 works in that regard, thx)
Nymra Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 Naked Defeat - 4.10 PATREON: I have a Patreon now. ❤️ https://www.patreon.com/nymra ❤️ Please consider supporting me if you like my mods. each patreon will increase the development speed. Plus I will work on features I personally do not need in Naked Defeat based on the support level: 12$ - work on one feature 24$ - work on two additional features and so on Additional features will get a vote system soon so patreons can vote for their wishes. Features can be: Advanced DD support, Better male actor support, Better Hair Shaving, Toys Support (if possible), also the patreon community can make requests UPDATING MAIN MOD (3.01 to 4.10) - RUN FNIS! - it is advised to update from 3.XX version instead of the betas (if possible) - if you update from a BETA, disable Naked Defeat, uninstall it, clean save and then install new Version (might be superfluous but better save than sorry) - updating from 4.0 to 4.1 should be possible without issues (fingers crossed ^^) FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS: - updated FNIS behaviour file (should no longer show warnings) - ghosts no longer trigger robbery and slavery events after rape - tried to fix expressions (open mouth) after defeat ends. if its still there, press "DefeatKey (K)" outside of the Scene once and see if it helps - renamed Outfits & Tags to Library and added forced hair styles - refining human group tags by gender (needs some testing still) - technically now if you have 1 male and 1 female in a raper group it should play a MFF animation without requirijng you to change any tags in the MCM) NEW FEATURE: Forced Hairstyles - NOTE: forgot to change the name and description in the localization.... duh - enable "Hair Shaving" in MCM -> Extras - will change your hairstyle randomly to one of 10 that you can manually enter in the library (load profile 1 for some vanilla bald hairstyles - attention, will also load default Naked Defeat Settings!) - enter the hair styles you like in the MCM - Library. IMPORTANT: fill in your original hair style first. After Defeat is over you can press "K" (surrender key) to revert the hairstyle back to the original - some hair style mods are incomaptible (Dint....) because they used wrong naming conventions for their headparts- I am working on a compatibility fix - the mod should tell you incompatible hairstyles when you first get shaved - the hair will NOT grow back by itself (will be added later) by now you need to press the hotkey to fix your hair NEW FEATURE: Save/Load MCM Settings - 5 slots to save your profile to - added 5 preset profiles, they currently all load the default naked defeat settings! dont load profile tho before not saving your settings first 3
Nymra Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 Naked Defeat 4.11 HOTFIX - prevents robbery and slavery events during Public Rape - slavery is meant to be replaced with POP imprisonment outcome anyway in the future Installation: overwrite Version 4.10 with it (contains only 1 script) Naked Defeat 4-11 Hotfix -guard punishment outcomes- (LE+SE).7z
tekuusne Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 8:50 PM, Nymra said: tried on my test profile but cannot always reproduce it, so I think in the end it might be a random thing (but I still keep an eye out so report back how 4.1 works in that regard, thx) My game is definitely still doing it after the 4.11 update. It's probably my combination of mods that's causing it, I have a lot of stuff installed and I'm not sure if the plugin order is quite correct.
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