Naked Defeat LE

[evilblade]

Hi! Thanks for an update, fixed a lot of issues.. but seams to have added a new one: when a whipping starts - the 3rd person camera changes it's position and like sticks to a place where the character is. So when I turn it around it's not moving around the player, but just turns staying at one point and I can't change it with a mouse wheel. Switching to the free camera mode helps though.. but it's just.. strange behavior which wasn't there before.

 

P.S. Or maybe I have this bug because of using this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/89516

Does anyone else also experiences it?

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, evilblade said:

Hi! Thanks for an update, fixed a lot of issues.. but seams to have added a new one: when a whipping starts - the 3rd person camera changes it's position and like sticks to a place where the character is. So when I turn it around it's not moving around the player, but just turns staying at one point and I can't change it with a mouse wheel. Switching to the free camera mode helps though.. but it's just.. strange behavior which wasn't there before.

 

P.S. Or maybe I have this bug because of using this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/89516

Does anyone else also experiences it?

 

this is not a bug but intended behaviour. I will add a toggle for it tho in case ppl are annoyed by it.

This happens because I added an invisible collision box that prevents the whipper from getting to close or on top of the Player, which always looked bad. It also prevents the whipper running past and beeing far away. This applies to Rodeo Scenario where sex scenes are combined with whipping.

I will add a toggle slider that allows to customize the use of this tool (OFF, ONLY RODEO, ALL-WHIPPING, ALL-SCENES) 

 

I always use the free camera then. It is a big improvement for me with the minor drawback of the camera beeing a bit odd in its behaviour.

[evilblade]

On 11/20/2021 at 4:36 PM, Nymra said:

its just replaces 1 script, installt if over version 4.20.

It checks the Location for the PlayerHouse Keyword and then disables rape for the stay there.

Btw the same way the mod already looks for dungeons etc. to make sure that public rape is not happening there 

And yet still I wish there was a hotkey to manually quickly enable/disable the feature..

Checking for a home/dungeons/etc. is good allright BUT some other mods have there own custom locations wich this mod obviously doesn't know about. And public rape events mess things up in them

Alternatively - is it possible to somehow make it so that player himself could add locations that disable public rape? For example - "Add current location" in the MCM, like in a SL Survival?

[Nymra]

2 minutes ago, evilblade said:

And yet still I wish there was a hotkey to manually quickly enable/disable the feature..

Checking for a home/dungeons/etc. is good allright BUT some other mods have there own custom locations wich this mod obviously doesn't know about. And public rape events mess things up in them

Alternatively - is it possible to somehow make it so that player himself could add locations that disable public rape? For example - "Add current location" in the MCM, like in a SL Survival?

 

hmm, yeah, mod compatibility is an endless venture.

a key would be doable, but not ideal ofc. While I think in the complex realm of social interaction/quests and mods a keyboard shortcut is the best way to cover as much as possible.

I put it on the list.

[BobBerger]

So i ran into a small problem where i get softlocked,

so sometimes Naked Defeat is unable to find any animations, and that will result in a loop where my player will constantly switch between two captured animations, the only way to fix this is to reload an old save.

I think i kinda understand how this happening, at least in my case. I have made it so that all animations have any gender tags (an FM animation has now FF FM and MM tags) and now when Naked Defeat suppresses a tag like MM or FF, all animations will be blocked.

Could a failsafe fix this kind of softlock. like if this following will return 0 "NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: - Anim available for: 0" then stop the capture quest or put the player in a device.

Also an Option to toggle off the suppression of genders would be great. i understand that this is a very specific issue.

 

Edit: The culprit to my problem seems to be the GroupComposition Function in nade_calmquest_qf_scr.psc

maybe if i comment out the entire functions content it should work fine for my specific requirements.

 

Edit 2: Adding a simple return "" at the top of the function fixed the 0 animations found problem.

 

The Defeat Scene start at like line 7864

Papyrus.2.log

Edited December 5, 2021 by BobBerger

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, BobBerger said:

So i ran into a small problem where i get softlocked,

so sometimes Naked Defeat is unable to find any animations, and that will result in a loop where my player will constantly switch between two captured animations, the only way to fix this is to reload an old save.

I think i kinda understand how this happening, at least in my case. I have made it so that all animations have any gender tags (an FM animation has now FF FM and MM tags) and now when Naked Defeat suppresses a tag like MM or FF, all animations will be blocked.

Could a failsafe fix this kind of softlock. like if this following will return 0 "NAKED DEFEAT calmquest: - Anim available for: 0" then stop the capture quest or put the player in a device.

Also an Option to toggle off the suppression of genders would be great. i understand that this is a very specific issue.

 

Edit: The culprit to my problem seems to be the GroupComposition Function in nade_calmquest_qf_scr.psc

maybe if i comment out the entire functions content it should work fine for my specific requirements.

 

Edit 2: Adding a simple return "" at the top of the function fixed the 0 animations found problem.

 

The Defeat Scene start at like line 7864

Papyrus.2.log 639.19 kB · 0 downloads

 

I m still a bit tired but I think I added a "Treat Females as Males" slider in the MCM. When set to 100% it should treat all females as male actors. 
I m not sure if this will help you tho, on second thought yeah, it might not. 
your fix is basically disabling the function, so its a fix for your problem indeed

 

may I ask why you added the tags like this? almost not mod at all filters for them, so by adding all the tags there should be no benefit basically? 

[BobBerger]

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may I ask why you added the tags like this? almost not mod at all filters for them, so by adding all the tags there should be no benefit basically? 

 

So i wanted to be able to use any animation with any combination of genders, and that's the solution i came up with.

I have used this since 2017 and it does its job, but i'm also not 100% sure if its due to the added tags or that SexLab just doesn't check these tags.

So you could be right that this is unnecessary, and that SexLab doesn't take these tags into account.

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, BobBerger said:

 

So i wanted to be able to use any animation with any combination of genders, and that's the solution i came up with.

I have used this since 2017 and it does its job, but i'm also not 100% sure if its due to the added tags or that SexLab just doesn't check these tags.

So you could be right that this is unnecessary, and that SexLab doesn't take these tags into account.

 

sexlab does not care for tags at all. at least from what I know. technically in a raw sexlab call you could see FF animations even when there are 2 guys.

thing is, that since non- MF animations are so few you maybe wont notice.

 

tags are only used my mods that start sexlab scenes, so sexlab does nothing on its own really.

two big problems with that:

 

1. SLAL packs are almost all not very precise when it comes to tags, so we have alot of wrong tags and also shit like MF and FM as tags for the same thing.

2. alot of mods do not filter tags at all or not in a way that is very good.  I just started exploring the whole thing and it is a lot of damn work. basically its like a labyrinth of tags that you can use to make a good story.

that is why I made scenarios: to make tags fit organic into the game world. like a scenario with the glory hole shack of etc.

[thomastm]

How come sometimes when sex animation or furniture punishment start or end my PC become invisible and stuck?

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, thomastm said:

How come sometimes when sex animation or furniture punishment start or end my PC become invisible and stuck?

 

does this only happen for Naked defeat? or also when you start sex with other mods? or when you use furnitures when the mod is not running? try that first. 

[thomastm]

21 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

does this only happen for Naked defeat? or also when you start sex with other mods? or when you use furnitures when the mod is not running? try that first. 

Yes, when defeated, also some animation that equip tongue but won't unequip when the scene end? 

[MadnessFrog]

interesting mod. I advise everyone

[Nymra]

24 minutes ago, thomastm said:

Yes, when defeated, also some animation that equip tongue but won't unequip when the scene end? 

 

sorry, this is too cryptic for me to work with. Naked Defeat also does not equip tongues.

 

I did not ask if it happens when defeated but if it happens when NOT defeated (try start sex with sexlab match maker for example or use a zap furniture in console "coc zbftestzone") 

[Audins]

Mod is working flawlessly however when I get whipped it just says "nobody is there to whip you". Anyone know what could be causing this?

[Nymra]

15 minutes ago, Audins said:

Mod is working flawlessly however when I get whipped it just says "nobody is there to whip you". Anyone know what could be causing this?

 

this happens when the quest cannot find a valid actor for whipping. which version of the mod do you use?

technically this should no longer happen, the only time when I still have this is when the whipper selected just left the room

 

Also: is this happening ALL the time or just sometimes?

 

if you have the latest version installed, feel free to send me a papyrus.log when this happens.

 

[Audins]

39 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

this happens when the quest cannot find a valid actor for whipping. which version of the mod do you use?

technically this should no longer happen, the only time when I still have this is when the whipper selected just left the room

 

Also: is this happening ALL the time or just sometimes?

 

if you have the latest version installed, feel free to send me a papyrus.log when this happens.

 

Sorry I was being an idiot and I didn't realise there was a patch uploaded last Friday. Thanks for making me double check though. Also good mod. Thanks

[bnub345]

8 hours ago, thomastm said:

Yes, when defeated, also some animation that equip tongue but won't unequip when the scene end? 

 

Sounds like you're using SLU+ and something is overwriting the scripts. If that's the case, make sure nothing is overwriting SLU+ and/or move it to the bottom of your load order. If you're not using SLU+, I have no idea what is going on.

[thomastm]

20 hours ago, bnub345 said:

 

Sounds like you're using SLU+ and something is overwriting the scripts. If that's the case, make sure nothing is overwriting SLU+ and/or move it to the bottom of your load order. If you're not using SLU+, I have no idea what is going on.

SLU+ = Sexlab Utility Plus? TQ. 

Edited December 7, 2021 by thomastm

[bnub345]

15 minutes ago, thomastm said:

SLU+ = Sexlab Utility Plus?

 

Yeah, the main mod in OsmelMC's mod tweaks.

[thomastm]

On 12/6/2021 at 9:55 PM, Nymra said:

 

does this only happen for Naked defeat? or also when you start sex with other mods? or when you use furnitures when the mod is not running? try that first. 

Turn invisible and stuck after first sex animation in binding phase. after I break free still invisible & stuck.  Also I make sure nothing overwrite Naked defeat.

Edited December 7, 2021 by thomastm

[Nymra]

17 minutes ago, thomastm said:

Turn invisible and stuck after first sex animation in binding phase. after I break free still invisible & stuck.  Also I make sure nothing overwrite Naked defeat.

 

nothing can overwrite naked defeat that can cause this. something else seems to be broken in your game. 

if you want any help at all, I need a papyrus log of that situation, maybe I can see something that points us to the problem.

 

[thomastm]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

nothing can overwrite naked defeat that can cause this. something else seems to be broken in your game. 

if you want any help at all, I need a papyrus log of that situation, maybe I can see something that points us to the problem.

 

 

Papyrus.0.log

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, thomastm said:

 

Papyrus.0.log 1.82 MB · 0 downloads

 

EDIT: sorry a sentence got accidently deleted:

 

I cannot see anything caused by Naked Defeat that directly leads to a problem. Everything seems to be in order of things.

however there is an error message that points to Sexlab, I have no idea what it does, it could be a wrong installation of sexlab, I have never seen this errors happen in my game

 

Hence the question 3 below.
 

also there are alot of errors surrounding the Nemesis.

 

Questions:

1. are your problems also happening when different mods start sex? 

2. can you use a zap furniture without turning invisible that is NOT created by Naked Defeat?

3. are you on SE by any chance? Or even AE? (since this is the LE support thread)

 

When you cannot answer these questions I will not help you any further, I NEED to know if this is ONLY happening on Naked Defeat.

 

Things you could try:

- make sure you have installed Nemesis correctly -> better use FNIS, I will not support problems with Nemesis

- make sure you have installed the correct version of Sexlab and if you have it installed Sexlab Utility+ (NOTHING can overwrite Sexlab Utility+)

 

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Nymra

[PubliusNV]

Trying out this mod for the first time and so far it's working well. However, I have a question. Is FadeTats a requirement to make the rape hands go away?

[Nymra]

13 minutes ago, PubliusNV said:

Trying out this mod for the first time and so far it's working well. However, I have a question. Is FadeTats a requirement to make the rape hands go away?

yes