Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Neyri LL]

14 minutes ago, adle said:

Inn keeper will request animal show indeed. 

But here are some restrictions. We wont do breeding in the story. Why? well not everybody has a pregnancy mod that will allow creature spawn. In addition to that, it will collide with player getting pregnant from father and stuff. Its just not what we want.

 

instead, we will make an animal show in the Inn for customers to enjoy. Ofc only creatures which would make sene. This would include_

- Dogs

- Wolfs (tamed)

- Horses

- Trolls maybe (since they can be tamed as well - see Dawnguard DLC)

- maybe. Only maybe werewolf (inn keeper turns out to be werewolf at the end of the quest line)

 

This is perfect! Well thought out! 😊

[OtherMoleva]

1 hour ago, adle said:

. Why? well not everybody has a pregnancy mod that will allow creature spawn. In addition to that, it will collide with player getting pregnant from father and stuff.

 

this is why i wrote about chaurus and spiders. those have eggs. 😅 so you don't need mods like that.
black screen *some time has past* spawn egg...
and it can be part of the show ofc
optionally if fill her up by baka is installed. player will see animations regarding those creatures. after expel anim plays players receives egg in gameworld or in inventory. i guess cut the "blackscreen cut off" if mod detected


 

Edited August 9, 2024 by OtherMoleva

[OtherMoleva]

1 hour ago, Neyri LL said:

 

All of this is great except the selection of creatures... Chaurus and spiders are just really unimmersive here. Some Lowly innkeeper capable of capturing and taming them? Hmmm, I don't think so  It's a little outside the reality of Skyrim imo, and I think this is one of the most immersive and fun mods out there. Lets keep it that way!

if i remember correctly there is spiders and skeevers in honningbrew meadery. sabjorn could hire someone and capture them. (as he hires player later in the game) and then just send cages to his wealthy friend\partner inn. 

[Anunya]

Ideas for Sabjorn at Honningbrew (in roughly an ascending order of intensity):

• Go deliver mead to different customers in the local area.
• Serve customers mead during a special event (there's a bard playing, lots of customers).
• Let customers grope you for tips.
• Drink with customers, forcing you to risk getting drunk (synergies with mods that add risk for PC being drunk).
• Describe to Sabjorn what happens at Father's party, while he masturbates (potentially on the PC).
• Sabjorn offers to pay you fairly generously to let him look at you naked while he masturbates.
• Sabjorn offers a handful of coins for a blowjob.
• Explain to customers what happens at Father's parties while they masturbate.
• Go out back for a quick fuck with a customer.
• "Special Bottle Service": Bring bottle of mead to customer, masturbate with it, then let him drink it (they pay extra for that).
• Father decides to visit Honningbrew meadery while the PC is working, and reacts poorly.
• Go deliver mead to local customers, with a chance of add-ons (like Special Bottle Service).
• Help Sabjorn stage a party just like the ones your father holds at home.
• Something involving Skeevers...

I have a few other suggestions / requests (ignore or use as you see fit):

1. I think many of the "out of the house" events would benefit from adding an air that Father is not supposed to know (even if he does). So basically, you're worried about him finding out, triggering a beating and/ or an escalation of demands, or just something psychological (lines of dialogue). That also adds the potential of some of the people using the PC saying things like "hey do [somethign degrading], or I'll tell your Father what your already did" and the PC has to choose between offering extra services for free or risking father's wrath.
2. In a similar vein, if Father finds out that the PC is prostituting herself to raise money he might forbid it, demand a cut of the money, or simply increase his daily demands.
3. Devious Followers has a willpower system. I'd love it if events in Wartimes could hook into that system as well.
4. I know there's a family theme in the game, but personally I'd really appreciate it if there was a path through the story where Mother disappears in a way that's not super grim (like an option that she just has to leave for whatever reason; or just that you start the scenario with her already gone and out of the story) would be greatly appreciated. There's a lot about this mod I really love, but anything that touches the actual mother-daughter relationship puts a serious damper on the fun.
5. On the other hand, if Father has a son who moves in you could have a jerk step-brother which could really amp up the Cinderella vibe (before the Prince comes along, of course).
6. While I'm throwing out ideas... it'd be pretty cool to have some sort of "Prince Charming" come along and offer to help the PC escape from her miserable life (whether encouraging her to run away or by actively offering a "buy out" the PC - only to transition directly into Devious Followers or Submissive Lola.
7. Relatedly, it'd be cool if there'd be an integration with Simple Slavery++ where the PC is bought back by father if she's already run away, and another integration where if the PC did not start wartimes she is sold to Father and "adopted".

Some of this is probably wildly implausible or doesn't align with your vision for the mod, but I thought I'd suggest it in case any of it resonates.

[Neyri LL]

19 hours ago, Anunya said:

Ideas for Sabjorn at Honningbrew (in roughly an ascending order of intensity):

...

 

I have a few other suggestions / requests (ignore or use as you see fit):

...

All of these are amazing!!! Take note @adle xD

[adle]

21 hours ago, Anunya said:

Ideas for Sabjorn at Honningbrew (in roughly an ascending order of intensity):

• Go deliver mead to different customers in the local area.
• Serve customers mead during a special event (there's a bard playing, lots of customers).
• Let customers grope you for tips.
• Drink with customers, forcing you to risk getting drunk (synergies with mods that add risk for PC being drunk).
• Describe to Sabjorn what happens at Father's party, while he masturbates (potentially on the PC).
• Sabjorn offers to pay you fairly generously to let him look at you naked while he masturbates.
• Sabjorn offers a handful of coins for a blowjob.
• Explain to customers what happens at Father's parties while they masturbate.
• Go out back for a quick fuck with a customer.
• "Special Bottle Service": Bring bottle of mead to customer, masturbate with it, then let him drink it (they pay extra for that).
• Father decides to visit Honningbrew meadery while the PC is working, and reacts poorly.
• Go deliver mead to local customers, with a chance of add-ons (like Special Bottle Service).
• Help Sabjorn stage a party just like the ones your father holds at home.
• Something involving Skeevers...

I have a few other suggestions / requests (ignore or use as you see fit):

1. I think many of the "out of the house" events would benefit from adding an air that Father is not supposed to know (even if he does). So basically, you're worried about him finding out, triggering a beating and/ or an escalation of demands, or just something psychological (lines of dialogue). That also adds the potential of some of the people using the PC saying things like "hey do [somethign degrading], or I'll tell your Father what your already did" and the PC has to choose between offering extra services for free or risking father's wrath.
2. In a similar vein, if Father finds out that the PC is prostituting herself to raise money he might forbid it, demand a cut of the money, or simply increase his daily demands.
3. Devious Followers has a willpower system. I'd love it if events in Wartimes could hook into that system as well.
4. I know there's a family theme in the game, but personally I'd really appreciate it if there was a path through the story where Mother disappears in a way that's not super grim (like an option that she just has to leave for whatever reason; or just that you start the scenario with her already gone and out of the story) would be greatly appreciated. There's a lot about this mod I really love, but anything that touches the actual mother-daughter relationship puts a serious damper on the fun.
5. On the other hand, if Father has a son who moves in you could have a jerk step-brother which could really amp up the Cinderella vibe (before the Prince comes along, of course).
6. While I'm throwing out ideas... it'd be pretty cool to have some sort of "Prince Charming" come along and offer to help the PC escape from her miserable life (whether encouraging her to run away or by actively offering a "buy out" the PC - only to transition directly into Devious Followers or Submissive Lola.
7. Relatedly, it'd be cool if there'd be an integration with Simple Slavery++ where the PC is bought back by father if she's already run away, and another integration where if the PC did not start wartimes she is sold to Father and "adopted".

Some of this is probably wildly implausible or doesn't align with your vision for the mod, but I thought I'd suggest it in case any of it resonates.

Very good ideas indeed. I feel like someone have played too much witch trainer 😄 

will save your ideas. Dont know if all of them will be implemented. But some of them for sure!!

 

But i have to tell you, we are trying to keep the Requirement list as low as possible.

The more requirements, the more the users which dont use them, would need to download. As well as permission wise. You dont always know the people. One day everything is free, the other they just leave and tell everybody to dump it. So we try to stick as standalone as possible

 

1 hour ago, Neyri LL said:

All of these are amazing!!! Take note @adle xD

Yeah already did Neyri 😄 i am still waiting for your sick mind to give me some ideas

[WinterInterloper]

On 8/9/2024 at 7:20 AM, adle said:

Helgen would be quiete nice i guess. Since there is not much content in vanilla skyrim there.

Thanks for the idea

Not that Helgen would be a bad idea, would it be possible to have the new inn just be an interior space you teleport to? Could help save having to worry about things like worldspace conflicts. 

 

Speaking of unused areas/ideas... any plans with the uncle in Riften you can go to? Because if not, something kind of cheap you could do is have the player travel to Helgen instead, kicking off the main quest (admittedly, I don't know how well this would play with alternate perspective (live another life integration seems a bit easier to trigger the main quest, but i'm not much of a modder. Biggest thing I've done is some personal stuff with Race Distribution Framework before it started crashing my game and some SSEEdits to dialogues and smaller things of that nature)

[Anunya]

Oh for sure... I have no expectation that all (or indeed any) of the ideas will be implemented - but if they inspire you to do something, that's great

 

And agreed about dependencies.

[HomeScreen503]

Cool that this is getting an update, been a while.

 

Any idea on a general timeline to look out for @adle ?

 

Late August? September? or is it expected to be later?

 

I'd be interested in having the new version just so I could start up a fresh playthrough and be ready for potential future updates

Edited August 16, 2024 by HomeScreen503
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[adle]

On 8/16/2024 at 11:43 PM, HomeScreen503 said:

Cool that this is getting an update, been a while.

 

Any idea on a general timeline to look out for @adle ?

 

Late August? September? or is it expected to be later?

 

I'd be interested in having the new version just so I could start up a fresh playthrough and be ready for potential future updates

i said it before. and will say it again. No ETA on update, Will take as long as it needs Guys. Please stop asking

[emily1673]

On 8/4/2024 at 12:39 PM, asdfa94 said:

Hey there!

I don't understand why, but whenever Tris applies the right eyebrow and labret piercings none of them show up or are applied in Slavetats (1.3.6), whereas the earlobe piercings do show up. The piercing are shown tho in the spell list as Pierced Labret etc. Not sure which installation I messed up, but I have YPS 6.8.2 so shouldn't need Monoman's tweak afaik,

 

On 8/4/2024 at 11:14 PM, Sierrok said:

I experiencesd this too, the other piercings, the nipple, belly and clit piercings dont show up either. I realized I installed on a old save and so I am trying a new save with building in slavetats just to be sure. i will report if the issue remians. Also, they did show up if I built it in the MCM slavetats menu. So it could be the trigger from tris isnt loading in slavetats. 

Tried and tested, I am having the issue still with the piercings outside of earings showing up. 

This was caused by a bug, which has been fixed in the newest YPS version.

[memati?]

Hi I have an odd one.

So I had to reinstall my modlist due to a fresh windows install. Everything is working like a charm but for some reason, when father demands milk from me and I give him 3 units of milk nothing happens afterwards. (Usually there should be a small notification of him approving of my "work") So its impossible for me to complete this task and I lose favor everytime I cant finish his task.

What could be the issue here?

I checked the dialogue conditions and they are all true (pchsfathermilk=0 and pchsPCmilkcow=1) 

Edit: Giving him cum for example is no issue at all. Also I tested it on a new game, still the same result. Very odd.

Edit2: Ok after searching in this thread I found someone who had the same issue as me. Apperantly in both our cases the refid for "FatherMilkFilter" was not set to the ID of father but was pointing to nothing. BUT Back then Monoman posted a different pchswartimes.esp to see if that fixes this issue.
After applying the differences in the "pchsmilkquest" quest in xEdit/SSEdit from that esp to the newest wartimes.esp father behaves like intended and takes my milk.
here is the esp that monoman uploaded back then for anyone encountering this issue aswell. But beware u cant just overwrite the latest esp with this file. You need to apply all the different entries in the "pchsmilkquest" from monomans esp to your own esp.

pchsWartimes.esp

Edited August 21, 2024 by memati?

[adle]

Short Update on our Addon:

 

- we are currently working on a quest to involve Jarl Balgruuf and Proventus Avenicci to Wartimes. 

- The Inn is on hold, since our Inn guy is on vacation

- we added a cave for wartimes ending

- rework of the house is complete. Looks similar to Monoman's idea of extending the house

- Bath inside the house complete. Will make a new task where player has to get some water for it on regular basis

- Custom equippable dildos done. Thanks to PredatorRJ. WITH SMP

- created some toys for Player. See picture

- reworked the cellar abit. mainly decoration and escape pipe for endgame

- MCM have been extended for the addon

- Activators for Water Bucket, Broom, and Woodcutter Axe. So no need to carry the ax around, magicially summon the broom out of your ass

 

 

Spoiler

 

[adle]

On 8/21/2024 at 11:23 PM, memati? said:

Hi I have an odd one.

So I had to reinstall my modlist due to a fresh windows install. Everything is working like a charm but for some reason, when father demands milk from me and I give him 3 units of milk nothing happens afterwards. (Usually there should be a small notification of him approving of my "work") So its impossible for me to complete this task and I lose favor everytime I cant finish his task.

What could be the issue here?

I checked the dialogue conditions and they are all true (pchsfathermilk=0 and pchsPCmilkcow=1) 

Edit: Giving him cum for example is no issue at all. Also I tested it on a new game, still the same result. Very odd.

Edit2: Ok after searching in this thread I found someone who had the same issue as me. Apperantly in both our cases the refid for "FatherMilkFilter" was not set to the ID of father but was pointing to nothing. BUT Back then Monoman posted a different pchswartimes.esp to see if that fixes this issue.
After applying the differences in the "pchsmilkquest" quest in xEdit/SSEdit from that esp to the newest wartimes.esp father behaves like intended and takes my milk.
here is the esp that monoman uploaded back then for anyone encountering this issue aswell. But beware u cant just overwrite the latest esp with this file. You need to apply all the different entries in the "pchsmilkquest" from monomans esp to your own esp.

pchsWartimes.esp 1013.87 kB · 1 download

can you test this one please?

 

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2024 by adle

[memati?]

2 hours ago, adle said:

Short Update on our Addon:

 

- we are currently working on a quest to involve Jarl Balgruuf and Proventus Avenicci to Wartimes. 

- The Inn is on hold, since our Inn guy is on vacation

- we added a cave for wartimes ending

- rework of the house is complete. Looks similar to Monoman's idea of extending the house

- Bath inside the house complete. Will make a new task where player has to get some water for it on regular basis

- Custom equippable dildos done. Thanks to PredatorRJ. WITH SMP

- created some toys for Player. See picture

- reworked the cellar abit. mainly decoration and escape pipe for endgame

- MCM have been extended for the addon

- Activators for Water Bucket, Broom, and Woodcutter Axe. So no need to carry the ax around, magicially summon the broom out of your ass

 

 

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Nice, cant wait for the changes. Also I realised. When playing with the newest YPS Fashion nail system, father doenst recognize the new nails and you get minus favor points.
Do you think its possible to make a compatibility patch for the newest yps?
 

[adle]

5 minutes ago, memati? said:

Nice, cant wait for the changes. Also I realised. When playing with the newest YPS Fashion nail system, father doenst recognize the new nails and you get minus favor points.
Do you think its possible to make a compatibility patch for the newest yps?
 

not sure yet. but i will look into it after addon is done. This is the primary goal atm.

[adle]

Also guys.

If you want to join our discord to post ideas, just hit me up.

Everyone is welcome. There might be things, we not thinking about. So you are welcome to join.

to all modders out there. We need you 😄

 

you can see progress there as well. 

But please dont join if you dont have something to say. We dont want a channel with hundrets of people inactive.

We are asking for ideas and help. For people who only want to see progress, i will post it here on LL

Edited August 29, 2024 by adle

[OtherMoleva]

23 hours ago, adle said:

- we are currently working on a quest to involve Jarl Balgruuf and Proventus Avenicci to Wartimes. 

 

isn't a jarl is kinda too overkill for some used random girl living on farm? i mean like why would he choose her with all the power he has? maybe make him intro something weird, so he would heard a rumor about it and wanted to watch it. but i guess it will not align with your vision for the mod 😅

[adle]

27 minutes ago, OtherMoleva said:

isn't a jarl is kinda too overkill for some used random girl living on farm? i mean like why would he choose her with all the power he has? maybe make him intro something weird, so he would heard a rumor about it and wanted to watch it. but i guess it will not align with your vision for the mod 😅

actually, we do have introduction for him already. it will hook up with the prostitution quest. Where player is forced to serve multiple customers in her bedroom on regular basis.

One of the customers is Proventus Avenicci. The guy stand next to the jarl. He will introduce her to jarl later, and from that on the whole quest line will start.

 

We already thought about that ofc.

[OtherMoleva]

1 hour ago, adle said:

actually, we do have introduction for him already. it will hook up with the prostitution quest. Where player is forced to serve multiple customers in her bedroom on regular basis.

One of the customers is Proventus Avenicci. The guy stand next to the jarl. He will introduce her to jarl later, and from that on the whole quest line will start.

 

We already thought about that ofc.

 so there will be no SL events with him?  it just ... why would he have wants to stick in a hell know what 

[neneXgod]

On 8/30/2024 at 1:23 AM, adle said:

Short Update on our Addon:

 

- we are currently working on a quest to involve Jarl Balgruuf and Proventus Avenicci to Wartimes. 

- The Inn is on hold, since our Inn guy is on vacation

- we added a cave for wartimes ending

- rework of the house is complete. Looks similar to Monoman's idea of extending the house

- Bath inside the house complete. Will make a new task where player has to get some water for it on regular basis

- Custom equippable dildos done. Thanks to PredatorRJ. WITH SMP

- created some toys for Player. See picture

- reworked the cellar abit. mainly decoration and escape pipe for endgame

- MCM have been extended for the addon

- Activators for Water Bucket, Broom, and Woodcutter Axe. So no need to carry the ax around, magicially summon the broom out of your ass

 

 

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That is exciting and great work from you guys. Can you show some screenshots for the house?

[Mari Rin]

19 hours ago, adle said:

actually, we do have introduction for him already. it will hook up with the prostitution quest. Where player is forced to serve multiple customers in her bedroom on regular basis.

One of the customers is Proventus Avenicci. The guy stand next to the jarl. He will introduce her to jarl later, and from that on the whole quest line will start.

 

We already thought about that ofc.

I am sure that adhering to the idea of mod, the jarl will want to have a maximum percentage of the party or arrange a performance to entertain guests. it seems to me that the first thing to do is to finish and improve the existing functions. if my opinion is important)

[adle]

1 hour ago, Dilis said:

I am sure that adhering to the idea of mod, the jarl will want to have a maximum percentage of the party or arrange a performance to entertain guests. it seems to me that the first thing to do is to finish and improve the existing functions. if my opinion is important)

I don’t want to spoil to much. But obv proventus is the guy managing stuff for jarl. Including prostitutes. It does make sense that he will recommend daughter. Besides that, father will see this as a oppotunity to promote his farm, and maybe get extra treatment since the soldiers took his wealth at in the past 

[Mari Rin]

On 8/31/2024 at 6:18 PM, adle said:

Я не хочу сильно спойлерить. Но obv proventus — это парень, который управляет делами для ярла. В том числе и проститутки. Вполне логично, что он порекомендует дочь. Кроме того, отец увидит в этом возможность продвинуть свою ферму и, возможно, получить дополнительное лечение, так как солдаты забрали его богатство в прошлом

What about the discord?

[adle]

5 minutes ago, Dilis said:

What about the discord?

send me a DM.
as mentioned before