Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[Monoman1]

On 9/28/2023 at 7:13 AM, Estceps said:

@Monoman1 Big fan of your mods, SLS and Wartimes are staple installs. I had two ideas for the end-game that I don't think should be too difficult to implement, at least the first 1 or 2 bullet points, mainly because they rely on already implemented mods/features, and then later expanded upon. Let me know what you think.

 

Clothing License Restriction

• After hitting max outfit rank / naked outfit, having high depravity/submission, and you have reached full slut reputation (via either mask being revoked through the standard progression, or intentionally leaving the house without it on), father will refuse to purchase a clothing license for you, or dramatically increase the favor cost.
  • Additionally, if a clothing license isn't required via SLS, clothing enforcement will now be in effect while in Whiterun because father has conspired with the guards to keep you displaying yourself (and considering the player's reputation at this point, and the guards getting to see you naked and harass you, he could easily convince them to make an exception in the law for the player).
    • If this could be a Whiterun exclusive enforcement, that would make the most logical sense (and would fit with the already existing toll/escort exemption for Whiterun only), but if that's not feasible for whatever reason, then Wartimes toggling the setting in SLS, and potentially locking it to Always Required would be a decent stop-gap. If it's not possible, then refusal to purchase the clothing license at least leaves participating in the intended effect of the event to the player's discretion. 
    • If the player is somehow able to acquire a clothing license via another method (i.e. Devious Followers), having the guards disregard your license and still enforcing that behavior due to your reputation/at your father's behest while in Whiterun would be the cherry on top.
  • One last condition to consider would be if all of the above have been met, and you're a cumslut/pregnant + a milk maid, the toll gate guards would require a blowjob+swallow/drink cum/drink lactaid to leave the gate (up to once or more a day), and wouldn't accept anything else to leave. Toll evasion would result in father hearing about your disobedience and punishing you.

Public Whore/Whore License

• If SLS and Public Whore is installed, father will gift you a whore license. This would happen after being pregnant, being a cumslut, high depravity/submission, and finishing the Supply Run questline/slut reputation, since father wouldn't need to worry about another man knocking you up, and whoring you out is what he has been working up to this whole time.
  • Having max yps-piercing level could be a potential requirement, since that event is time consuming and takes you out of Whiterun, potentially triggering PW town restrictions.
  • Each confirmed client you serve would get you 1 or more favor upon reporting in to the Thane.
  • Doing overtime clients would reward bonus favor.
  • This would be most simply implemented if PW is set to client mode and player doesn't handle gold, because father is renting you out to the city and is taking his cut in gold, while paying you in favor, leaving you responsible for reporting your progress to the PW Thane. Clients that don't count towards your quota don't reward favor, since father didn't get paid.
  • If PW is in gold mode with either gold handling enabled or disabled, then you could potentially pay your way out of the quota and avoid any whoring, with no easy way to implement awarding favor. One possible solution is to award a set amount of favor for every X gold turned in.
    • This method might not be as thematic, since you could potentially pay your way out of PW via saved cash, selling loot, adventuring, etc., rather than whoring yourself out like father intended, but by this point those options might not be viable under certain mods/mcm settings.
  • If PW is handling gold in client mode, things get a bit more complicated since PW hands out punishments that take up a significant amount of time if you go to report clients and you don't have the cash on hand to make up for any clients that stiffed you, which could push you over the timelimit for some chores, or lock you in restraints, which might make doing some chores/fashion requirements difficult.
  • Taking this concept a little further, father could kick you out at night to do your whoring, locking the door behind you. The door would unlock in the morning (whenever tasks become available to be assigned), and father could check in on your progress (similar to reporting your progress to PW's Thanes), offer you skooma to offset your fatigue, and have you continue your daily chores until he kicks you out again at night until you finish the PW quest (any leftover whore license time would be yours to do with as you wish).
    • I'm not sure how feasible it would be to have father be the person you report your progress/turn in your gold to, but if that is possible then that could open up some fun events when reporting to father in the morning based off of how many clients was told you took in a day (bonus favor, cum potions, skooma, father getting really turned on if you did well, etc., or favor loss and punishments if you slacked off), and you wouldn't have to walk all the way to Dragon's Reach to report your progress all the time if father served the same purpose each morning. If he only talks to you about your quota once in the morning, you could also have him try to coerce you into going into overtime instead of ending the PW quest in exchange for extra favor.
  • After having completed the gifted whore license, you would no longer be allowed to ask for a curfew license, and this scenario would then become available as a task (granting favor just for requesting the task in addition to per client).
    • A chance on taking this task, your father takes your inventory, ties you up and ships you off to one of the other major cities to be their public whore for while. Restricted to remain within the city, you can sleep in the kennels. Potentially have the kennel master provide supplies similar to the deal you can make with him in SLS.
    • Additionally, a modified version of this could be used as an alternative outcome for failing the time-off game (you'd still get the time-off after failing the game, but you'd be assigned a PW quota where you can't leave the town until you finish, clients don't reward favor, but after finishing the PW quest any remaining time-off is yours).
      • I know that Coffee's Task Extension for Submissive Lola has a way to assign a custom client count and duration independent from the PW MCM settings, so if variable client/duration scaling to requested time-off is possible, that'd be the perfect outcome.
  • If, however, PW is set to endless mode, then a lifetime whore license would be awarded, and the previously described features would be your life moving forward (with the nightly lockout mechanic going into effect until you hit some weekly quota, but the endless PW mode would still persist).
  • Having to juggle finishing your quota, sleeping in the kennel if your Fertility Mode health gets too low due to fatigue (or if you want to avoid more Skooma Whore addiction), and doing your chores during the day would be pretty challenging, but entirely possible with default PW quota settings.

I've been playing with most/all of the recommended mods with Wartimes, and the recommended timescale/MCM settings, and I feel like both of these events are appropriate for the late game of the mod, even at their basic level of implementation. The clothing license restriction is just taking your father's intentions one step further, is already possible by manually tweaking MCM settings, and is just an immersive way to close those off-ramps, and making you more dependent on father's favor than gold.

 

At the basic level of whore license/PW integration, assuming client mode and no gold handling, this would be a week-long task, optionally repeatable, for extra favor. I've been playing this way so far by just asking for a curfew license with PW in client mode, no gold control, no approach (it's kind of buggy), and default settings. If you made 1-2 favor per client, and a bonus favor on overtime/extension, you'd be making more gold in total if you convert all that favor into gold than if you had taken the 30% payment you get only while in overtime. Also, since you're being paid in favor, it's something that father than give and take away at a whim, further tying you to him rather than some other source of money.

 

Considering the PW integration would happen when things are spiraling out of control, and in my experience winning the time-off game is basically impossible late-game, having a way where you can either lean into being daddy's favor-whore (in addition to chores), or getting some "free time" while still being manipulated into being his money-maker (without earning favor per client) offers the player a way get what they want (favor/gold/time-off) while still sinking deeper into father's clutches. With both of these active, the effects would also play into each other, with having to be naked anyway for PW fitting the premise of the clothing license restriction, nakedness persisting even after PW is over, and having to pay the "toll" moving in and out of Whiterun to report your clients. 

 

Even if none of this gets implemented, the basics of these ideas are already possible via MCM settings, so I've already got most of what I want. It would just be neat if these things were tied to favor after certain events progress, and they would open up some reward/punishment scenarios that can take away that valuable favor, depending on how well you can follow the new rules.

There's some good ideas here and I may implement some if I can but in general I think whoring needs a more... gentle introduction than being dumped straight into PW, no matter how depraved the PC has become. 

 

A big difficulty I see is that a lot of these things require other mods (slaverun/sls/PW) for something that really should be a pillar for WT - whoring. If someone decides not to install PW then you lose that pillar. The alternative is coming up with my own whoring implementation which would be nice of course. But so much work...

[kapibar]

4 hours ago, Monoman1 said:

Help  pchsAmpInstalled  =  ?

 

1. But get this: I started a new game from the same save, haven't touched the modlist. Just restart and go. And everything works just fine.

[neneXgod]

Any update on the Wartime update, @Monoman1 ? Feel free to ignore this comment if you don't want to. I'm still a big fan of this mod theme and your work ^^.

[Guest]

On 5/12/2021 at 12:00 PM, Monoman1 said:

There are newer versions here if adventurous: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3436353

 

LE - Green

SE - Purple (Thanks to Nomkaz & Silvain for conversions)

 

SLAC Tweak Tweak

SexLab Aroused Creatures Tweak Tweak v1.0.7z

Requires SL Aroused Creatures Tweak by Osmel and it's requirements.

- Allows excluding specific Npcs or creatures from selection. 'AddToFaction xx08D7E9 0' to stop AC acting on that character. 'RemoveFromFaction xx08D7E9' to cancel the effect. Suggest using this on Aldo to stop SLAC turning him into a sex crazed maniac. I'll eventually be using this on your 'animal friend' in SLS too. 

 

Amputator Framework Tweak

Amputator Framework Tweaked v1.6 (07-May-2021).7z

Amputator Framework Tweaked SE v1.6 (07-May-2021).zip

Includes all needed files

- Very minor change to support adding mothers slave outfit in Wartimes.

 

Immersive Fashion Tweak

yps-ImmersiveFashion Tweak BETA v1.7 (25-May-2020).7z

yps-ImmersiveFashion Tweak BETA SE v1.7 SE (25-May-2020).zip

Install on top of regular YPS.

 

IF YOU USE SE - You need to download and install this json file. Rename it and overwrite the existing json. 

Underwear - SE.json

 

v1.7

- Gave stockings a world model. 
- Added SexlabNoStrip keyword to stockings. 
- Stockings can't be unequipped while wearing boots or leg cuffs. 

- Removed sound delays when equipping stockings. Should be very speedy now. 

 

v1.6

- Fixed smudged variables not being set correctly.

 

v1.5

- Changed stockings to work more like regular clothes. They're individual (not in a magic pack). You equip them and unequip them. They can get stolen/lost/confiscated etc. Stockings occupy slot 54. Changed from using slavetats to direct racemenu overlays to try to keep things speedy. Stockings won't work on Npcs.

- Added stockings to vendors. 

- Colors configurable via json.
- Currently equipped stockings available via storageutil.

 

v1.4

- Harmonized smudged storageutil variables a little. Smudged variables are now of type int (bool really - 0/1). 

 

Wartimes Tweak

Wartimes Tweak v4.2 (23-June-2021).7z

Wartimes Tweak SE v4.2 (23-June-2021).7z

Includes all needed files

 

If you are using SLS it should be the BETA on the features page. Install the LocOps fix script needed for wartimes for version 0.662 of SLS only!

_SLS_LocationOpsSpecific.pex 24.18 kB · 523 downloads

 

Recommended mods for 'full' experience

2x Tweaks above.

A pregnancy mod - Either Fertility Mode or Beeing Female

Fill Her Up Baka edition

Devious Devices Expansion

SL Survival

Milk Mod Economy

Optional - 'Time Passes' or 'Living Takes Time' to make tasks like cooking take time.

Bathing in Skyrim Tweaked

A mod that makes cum last longer - Maybe Sexlab Cum Overlays.

 

v4.2

- If you are using SLS it should be the BETA on the features page. Install the LocOps fix script needed for wartimes for version 0.662 of SLS only!

- Father will toss you out of the home once you reach -10 favour. If this is your first warning then you'll be let back in after a 3-7 days. Until then you have to fend for yourself. If you've already been warned and are tossed out again then it'll be permanent and all your perks and privileges are gone. You can ask father to forgive you which again gives you the safety net of a warning but it costs a lot of favour. While tossed out you do not need to perform tasks or look after mother's health but you are striped naked, regular licence purchase is blocked, a bounty is placed on you and you can not access your home, your stash, licences from father, food or bed and lose your residency status in SLS. Returning to father will remove any bounties he placed on you. Implemented this lockout mechanic for several endings though I probably missed some.
- You can get mother back if you're already pregnant before getting mother back. AMP framework must be installed.
- If amputator is installed the cost of mother's 'healing at the temple' will increase by 20 gold every day to a maximum of 500. Financially incentivising you to become father's breeding pig.
- Father should no longer confiscate your MME milk.
- Fixed gifting father cum was resetting the milk gift quest.
- Hopefully fixed supply quest stopping.

- Misc fixes.

 

v4.1

- Fixed broken scenario start dialogue. 

- Father's 'Fill Her Up harness' configurable via json. 

 

 

v4.0

- Fix for father always choosing breeding sex.

- Fix for dog cage door.

 

v3.9

- Added bondage training. Submission must be >= 5. Level 1: arm & leg cuffs. Level 2: Boots and gloves. Devices given configurable via json.

- Father will more strictly monitor any food in your inventory while you're at home when you become a cum slut.

- Father will prefer vaginal sex with you for apologies if you're his not-yet-pregnant breeder.

- Father will turn into a SLS asshole after you've given him a blowjob - spanks/comments/cat calling etc. 
- Cum slut task should now start if you drink fathers cum during apologies. 
- Refresh father's AI package on entering home to help avoid fail conditions after quickly changing into your outfit before entering home. 
- Father won't expect you to wear stockings when wearing leg cuffs.
- Refined sex tags a little. 
- Limited depravity & submission stats to 0 - 100.
- You can ask for your old, good bed back (bedroll causes issues with SLS camping fatigue). Costs 10 favour. If favour drops below 0 it'll be removed again.
- Added option to configure the max number of cumtainers required.
- Fixed error in calculation of favour regain on successful apology.
- Some other minor fixes.

- A couple of fixes for 3.8.

 

v3.1

- Fixed getting fashion reward too often. 

- Fix for naked reputation scan not stopping when failing supply run.

- Supply run will lock your end table. 

 

v3.0

- Because of the fixes here Father will do his approach for sex again. If you're passed that stage and don't want to go through it again do 'set pchsFatherIntimacyApproach to 2' in the console. Or 1 if you're at the stage where you refused but haven't been raped yet. 

- Asking father for skooma while not addicted will gain favour. Asking for skooma while addicted will cost favour.  Can only ask twice a day.

- Configurable 'out of hours' times when tasks can't be assigned. Need to sleep sometime. Tasks that are already active still need to be completed. Tasks that should now be assigned will be postponed by an hour.

- Failing to get father off will raise his arousal, making it easier to get him off when you go again.

- Applied minimum arousal at a more appropriate point.

- Bumped up the regular gold rewards and starting gold for fashion.

- Fixed giving an apology massage wasn't resetting approach cooldown.
- Reworked father's approaches for intimacy from relying on depravity (which can go up and down now) to instead rely on it's own variable and the tasks completed variable. Initial approach now at 25 tasks completed. Rape, if you refused, at 40 tasks. 
- Fixed 'father looks tense messages' occurring before approach for intimacy (I think). 
- Apology sex - Only successfully making the target orgasm will move you on to more depraved of acts.
- Initial rape by father will cooldown his tension. 
- You won't move on to the next kind sex act without making Father cum with the current act.

- Added some missing sound files.
 

v2.9

- Added mundane 'Supply Run' task.
- Father will remove certain Devious Devices in exchange for favour. (Belt, bra, boots, gloves, gag, blindfold, hood, suit, heavy bondage, harness)
- Added sex with Aldo as apology punishment and as a regular task.
- Added a bunch of Mcm options.
- Squashed all fashion failures into one and added a cooldown.
- You won't get penalized for poor fashion if it's blocked by Devious Devices. Eg. No lipstick penalty while gagged etc.
- Tweaks to smooth out balance & progression.

- Fixed a lot of bugs with 2.6.
- Some more home nav mesh fixes. 

 

v2.6

- Added dynamic favour loss. As you complete more tasks for father he will become more critical of your failures. Increases favour loss on task failure the more you progress to help keep you on your toes.
- Added task failure apology/punishment system. Basically, when you fail a task you will have 1 minute to ask father to forgive your failure. If he accepts you will regain 80% of the favour lost. This provides a safety net from being thrown out/enslaved when you start losing lots of favour due to dynamic favour loss. Initially father will accept "I'm sorry" as apology enough. Later however father will get more demanding in correcting you. This is (hopefully) going to be expanded a lot more with the likes of beastiality, pain/torture/spanking, public humiliation etc. 

- If YPS Fashion Tweak v1.5 is installed: father will gradually increase demands that you improve your appearance after giving you the maid outfit. Spoilers: Stage 1: Eyeshadow & lipstick, Stage 2: Finger and toe nail polish, Stage 3: Pubic hair trimming and stockings. Failing to meet father's expectations will decrease favour . Smudged makeup will decrease favour . You'll periodically be rewarded with gold to supplement the cost if your appearance satisfies father.
- If SLS is installed: father will try to turn you into a cum slut after drinking his cum. Spoilers: Father will request you bring him random amounts of cum and may specify one particular type of cum to bring. He will also forbid you from bathing or washing cum off your body (public cum disgrace). You may ask for permission to bathe the following day. While being a public cum disgrace you do not need to keep up your yps appearance. Father will periodically check: your BiS tweak dirtiness, the layers of cum on your body and the FHU cum in your holes. If they drop then you'll lose favour . To help stop you leaking cum father will provide you with a pair of primitive plugs. When you're allowed to bathe again you'll need to fix up your yps appearance again.
- If devious devices is installed: While trying to get you pregnant father will belt and plug you after fucking you (and obviously unbelt and unplug you before fucking you).
- Ask father for basic SL Survival licences from his buddy at the kennel in exchange for favour .
- Added some kind of semblance of a home sex life between mother and father. Walk in or wake up to your mother and father... 'going at it'. The dynamic changes a little if mother is caged and father has fucked you at least once.
- Added the family dog 'Aldo' for reasons.
- Fixed you won't get favour for both wearing maid clothes and being naked. One or the other. Likewise, you won't get favour if you have not yet been given heels/collar.
- Added SexlabNoStrip keyword to heels/collar to stop them getting confiscated in SLS. 
- Fixed another force greet not terminating properly.
- Changed fathers initial approach for intimacy to require at least 20 favour to try to smooth out progression a little.
- Left mother some of her arms so she can crawl about the place without looking silly.
- Made Amputator framework a soft dependency. I think this is the last dependency that will be removed (I doubt I'll remove Zaz. And dawnguard and dragonborn are required by LAL anyway so...)
- Set starting favour to -5 to immediately put you in the danger zone.
- Fixed father wasn't taking the gold for his trinkets.

 

v1.9 (28-Apr-2021)

- Fixed swallowing anyone's cum was increasing father's favor.

- Fixed interface script shouldn't have been attached to quest.

 

v1.8 (27-Apr-2021)

- Added tentative support for fertility mode pregnancy.
- Fixed some force greets weren't terminating properly.
- Fixed father will continue to check in with you when you become his slave wife.

 

v1.7 (26-Apr-2021)

- Fixed a small dialogue issue in v1.6.

 

v1.6 (26-Apr-2021)

- Father will have another job for you now after he gets you pregnant and you have MME installed. Guess what that might be...? Needs the MME addon that converts zaz milking machines to proper MME milkers. Should go without saying but you'll need to disable MMEs skooma effect otherwise the baby will be dead on your first milking. Spoilers: Father will force you into a milking machine and demand that you bring him milk every day. Milk required is Milk Quota (default 3) * Maid level. Bringing at least half the quota means no favor gain or loss.
- Seeded father's arousal whenever he's tense to a minimum of 35 - 70 points. Can't be tense if he's not even the slightest aroused. Makes SLSO orgasms a little more achievable. If not then there's always skooma. 

- Drinking father's cum via SLS during a blowjob will additionally increase favor by 1. 

- Cumming while bouncing on father's cock will increase favor by 1. 

- Increased favor loss on all task failures to -3 to make things a bit more difficult. 

- Father's favor will decrease if he has to resort to raping you.

- Being naked should be an acceptable alternative to wearing your maid outfit should you lose it.

- Added menu options 'Base Favor Loss', 'Arousal Min', 'Arousal Max', 'Milk Quota Per Level'.

 

v1.5 (20-Apr-2021)

- Extended previous SLSO conditions to cover topic 'Do whatever you want father' as well.

 

v1.4 (20-Apr-2021)

- Applied AI packages on the alias stack instead of on the default package stack. Reduced quest priority to 70. Should stop Npcs going walkies. 

- Gave the home cell some music. 

- Increased favor loss for failing to give father an SLSO orgasm to 2.

- Every subsequent time you fail to give father an orgasm will increase the amount of favor lost. 

- The first time you fail to give father an orgasm twice in a row he'll drug you with skooma to give you the stamina you need. This unlocks access to skooma from father in exchange for favor points (Skooma Whore tie-in).

 

v1.3 (19-Apr-2021)

- Removed SD cages as a master. 
- Sorted masters. 

- If using SLSO, you'll have to make father have an orgasm to successfully 'ease his tension'. The timer will not reset otherwise and you will still lose favor if he goes too long without being satisfied.  (Includes all 'jobs' except massage)
- If using SLSO, father's favor will only increase if you make him cum (includes all 'jobs' except massage.
- If using SLSO, failing to make father cum during sex will decrease favor by 1. 
- If using SLSO, every orgasm the player has while having sex with father will further increase depravity and submission by 1. 
- Fixed father expecting you to be naked without asking you first.
- Father will only ask you to be naked after fucking you. 

- Rejigged timer startup a little. 

 

v1.2

- Removed Display Model as a hard dependency. Poses and idles from DM should still play (soft dependency) but none of the furniture will spawn now. I don't think the furniture was ever used (except for flavor visuals). 

- Fixed all TesEdit errors. 

 

v1.0

- Fixed staring contests around Whiterun. Needs new game unfortunately (won't fix in ongoing games)
- Cleaned the mod in TesEdit - Removed ITMs.
- Restarted the dog job.
- Father will accept devious collars/boots as ok replacements of his own collar/boots. 
- When failing to satisfy father's demands the timer would reset for about a week of game time. Not sure if this was intentional or not but timer is now changed to regular duration. 
- Fixed Npcs not being able to navigate into/out of the home cell. 
- Navmeshed around dancing pole. 
- Fixed one room in the house was inaccessible to Npcs - disconnected navmesh. 
- Hotkeys won't respond while in console, inventory, barter or crafting menu.

 

Hello,

 

thank you very much for the SE versions.

 

I used the amputator SE version which you posted.

But the body parts wont vanish..

Did I do something wrong ?

 

Thanks in advance

[EdwardEl]

Hello,

 

Thank you for this wonderful mod, it's a ton of fun and pretty much the only one that plays this sort of fantasy well.

 

This time around though I'm having a strange problem, I can't get the Father tension dialogue to appear. I've had the setup dialogue that normally triggers it but the option to help father with his tension doesn't appear nor does the message telling me he's feeling tense. I've tried exiting and rentering the cell, reloading, and waiting but nothing seemed to trigger it to start.

 

It did proc him to get angry for failing to take care of his tension so I know the timer is running. Is there a console command I can use to manually trigger the dialogue since everything else appears to be working?

 

[H Bof]

For whatever reason, no matter what I wear father is always mad about it. I've tried removing and re-adding outfits through the debug menu but so far nothing has changed. The mirror also says that my outfit/accessories are all appropriate so I'm not sure what my issue is. Does anyone know a fix for this?

 

Edit: I managed to fix it for now by digging through SSEdit to find the global. If anyone else has this issue try "set pchsPCisWearingOutfit to 1" in console. Now I'll just have to wait and see if it gets set back to -1 somehow.

 

Edit 2: I can confirm it keeps setting it to -1, would anyone have an idea why?

Edited October 17, 2023 by H Bof

[Guest]

Same issue as 2 posts up, the notice that the option to relieve father's tension appears but the dialogue isn't added. Strange part is I've seen it working before.

 

solution/edit/update: Finally found the couple pages discussing this issue and workaround.

Use version 10.0 until everything is working and happy, then optionally switch to 10.3

Edited October 17, 2023 by w2bvaultmeat
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[divinefire]

8 hours ago, H Bof said:

For whatever reason, no matter what I wear father is always mad about it. I've tried removing and re-adding outfits through the debug menu but so far nothing has changed. The mirror also says that my outfit/accessories are all appropriate so I'm not sure what my issue is. Does anyone know a fix for this?

 

Edit: I managed to fix it for now by digging through SSEdit to find the global. If anyone else has this issue try "set pchsPCisWearingOutfit to 1" in console. Now I'll just have to wait and see if it gets set back to -1 somehow.

 

Edit 2: I can confirm it keeps setting it to -1, would anyone have an idea why?

 

try to reload json file in the wartimes mcm. If you have changed it at all it will not recognize it until you do that.

[EdwardEl]

13 hours ago, w2bvaultmeat said:

Same issue as 2 posts up, the notice that the option to relieve father's tension appears but the dialogue isn't added. Strange part is I've seen it working before.

 

solution/edit/update: Finally found the couple pages discussing this issue and workaround.

Use version 10.0 until everything is working and happy, then optionally switch to 10.3

 

Ahhh cool, hopefully I'll find the time to try that fix later tonight, thanks for the tip!

 

I know what you mean though, I've used the mod a few times as a jumping off point for different modpacks and never seen this particular problem before.

[H Bof]

14 hours ago, divinefire said:

 

try to reload json file in the wartimes mcm. If you have changed it at all it will not recognize it until you do that.

Thank you this seems to have worked! I completely missed that in the MCM

[H Bof]

I also had an idea that I think would be fairly simple to implement, though I'm no modder so really I have no clue but I feel like the bones are there already between yps hair color change demands and nylon boredom. But a further way to implement yps would simply be to have father periodically demand you change your hairstyle for a set time, I don't imagine completely restricting hairsyles like nylons are would be ideal but just setting the now "boring" hair as off limits for a period of time would suffice. He could ask for a perm, hair done up in a ponytail, new standard style, etc. to add a new layer to yps implementation and overall just a new money sink to add to the pile.

 

Edit: Another idea that would probably be much more work so idk how doable it is would be BAC integration. I feel like it would make sense given the milking demands and the fact that you live on a farm, it could lead to a whole bunch of new events and ways for father to make money from you by selling milk, putting on freakshows much like those already in BAC, showing you off to his friends at parties, maybe loaning you out to a mad alchemist to experiment on and that's how you end up cursed in the first place, etc.

Edited October 18, 2023 by H Bof

[Sierrok]

Where did the game files go? I came on to check for updates, instead I found no files... The Monoman Wartimes 10.3 is missing from page 39...

[divinefire]

 Ouch, all of mono's files are gone, hopefully everything will be alright.

[EdwardEl]

On 10/17/2023 at 5:20 AM, w2bvaultmeat said:

Same issue as 2 posts up, the notice that the option to relieve father's tension appears but the dialogue isn't added. Strange part is I've seen it working before.

 

solution/edit/update: Finally found the couple pages discussing this issue and workaround.

Use version 10.0 until everything is working and happy, then optionally switch to 10.3

 Hmmm tried a swap mid save and it didn't change anything. I assume I have to start a new save with 10.0 then?

 

Looking at papyrus it doesn't seem to change much, with the call

 

[10/18/2023 - 06:16:25PM] pchs: ModStat(): Favour: 2.000000. FavLossFinal: 2.000000. Depravity: 1.000000. Submission: 0.000000. Str: . Sender: [pchsWartimesFatherFGAskSexScript2 <topic info 660DAB3B on quest pchsWartimes (66005A17)>]
[10/18/2023 - 06:16:25PM] pchs: IncTasksDone():

 

This seems to be the script calling it and then doing nothing? Or instantly completing itself?

 

Edit2: Solved the issue with a simple console command, no reload or change of mod needed, an old post from another used encountering the same issue offered the solution

On 12/16/2022 at 9:40 AM, Piiska said:

* Nothing triggering/happening after Father first says he's gotten tense and wants a massage, no dialogue for it - Can fix with the "set pchsFatherSex to 0"

Edited October 19, 2023 by EdwardEl

[lorddenorstrus]

On 10/18/2023 at 7:55 AM, divinefire said:

 Ouch, all of mono's files are gone, hopefully everything will be alright.

Not just gone, he also made a post on Nomkaz's SE conversions for them to be torn down...   Scorched earth approach.    Honestly quite odd considering Oct 12th he posted on Wartimes discussing modification/changes to the file showing interest in continuing work then 23th just "purge it all".    

 

I mean I'm mostly glad I have all the files still down loaded for usability.. would kinda bum me out to lose all of it some good staple mods in my load order.   I came back to check in on this Mod cause it'd been awhile and I was excited to see if the 'new house' he'd shown awhile back had gotten released yet : /       I hope we hear something but you never know these days...    Reminded of Jonx0r somewhat.  But he at least returned eventually so we'd stop having to pirate DL Wyrmstooth.  

[manafalls]

9 hours ago, lorddenorstrus said:

Not just gone, he also made a post on Nomkaz's SE conversions for them to be torn down...   Scorched earth approach.    Honestly quite odd considering Oct 12th he posted on Wartimes discussing modification/changes to the file showing interest in continuing work then 23th just "purge it all".    

 

I mean I'm mostly glad I have all the files still down loaded for usability.. would kinda bum me out to lose all of it some good staple mods in my load order.   I came back to check in on this Mod cause it'd been awhile and I was excited to see if the 'new house' he'd shown awhile back had gotten released yet : /       I hope we hear something but you never know these days...    Reminded of Jonx0r somewhat.  But he at least returned eventually so we'd stop having to pirate DL Wyrmstooth.  

 

Monoman's posted over in the Survival thread about what's going on, so I'll just say here that I'm glad he's okay, and to thank him for all the amazing contributions he's made to this community. He's been patient and generous with his time and respectful of others.

 

I really hope he gets to a point where he wants to be here again, where it is fun for him again. If it doesn't, I'll miss him, but I'll be happy for him to have chosen his happiness and mental health over providing free mod support to everyone else.

[RinolaRaylo]

I hate to see that Monoman has reached this level of burnout, but it is understandable with the OCD and level of entitlement coming from some followers. I truly hope things improve for him, and that life treats him better regardless of if he returns or not. It's a shame that the community and everything else has contributed to this choice, but sometimes a stand needs to be made for ones own mental health.

I'll admit a part of me is also disappointed in myself for not saving some of these mods for when I get a wild hair and want to play thru again with them, but knowing how I am, odds are it wouldn't have felt right anyways to try playing them with the knowledge of the current situation.

Monoman if you see this, try not to feel bad for stepping back and doing what felt right for you. We all need to step back from our normal pastimes/hobbies on occasion, and sometimes we don't return. That is completely human and normal. You do you, take your time, take a deep breath and take care of yourself! Best of wishes!

And maybe don't take a shot for every time I typed out "take" (just a poor joke, sorry.)

Thank you for your work in the past that's contributed to a lot of time I passed with your mods.

[MrNicoras]

Seriously? I spent the last two weeks re-installing pancake Skyrim, stopped my VR run, downloading mods, tweaking load orders, looking for update files, all because I found what I thought was the most current version of this mod. I just got everything up and running yesterday, only to find that the quest marker for finding the person to get herbs for mom doesn't seem to work. So I do more digging, and find that I missed the actual working version of this mod by a couple of weeks. I'm not mad at @Monoman1, because he doesn't owe me a damn thing. I'm just disappointed. I'd never heard of this mod before recently, and as soon as I learned of it, I really wanted to play it. Only to find out that the man behind the magic has peaced out for personal reasons. I'm just really bummed. If he sees this, I really hope you're ok and that you return to modding when you're in a better place. Your talents have given a lot of people a lot of enjoyment for a lot of years.

 

[Iroha]

10 hours ago, MrNicoras said:

Seriously? I spent the last two weeks re-installing pancake Skyrim, stopped my VR run, downloading mods, tweaking load orders, looking for update files, all because I found what I thought was the most current version of this mod. I just got everything up and running yesterday, only to find that the quest marker for finding the person to get herbs for mom doesn't seem to work. So I do more digging, and find that I missed the actual working version of this mod by a couple of weeks. I'm not mad at @Monoman1, because he doesn't owe me a damn thing. I'm just disappointed. I'd never heard of this mod before recently, and as soon as I learned of it, I really wanted to play it. Only to find out that the man behind the magic has peaced out for personal reasons. I'm just really bummed. If he sees this, I really hope you're ok and that you return to modding when you're in a better place. Your talents have given a lot of people a lot of enjoyment for a lot of years.

 

I sincerely sympathize, you missed a lot. But I have good news for you - there is only one latest version of the mod, and only Monoman1 has it. And I, like many other people with a sliver of understanding, hope to see him here again someday.

Edited November 8, 2023 by Iroha

[lorddenorstrus]

On 11/8/2023 at 11:17 AM, Iroha said:

I sincerely sympathize, you missed a lot. But I have good news for you - there is only one latest version of the mod, and only Monoman1 has it. And I, like many other people with a sliver of understanding, hope to see him here again someday.

Yeah, I still remember popping by awhile ago and seeing the huge discussion on adding a Sister or something the pictures of the new house he'd done and Audhol had popped in to help make assets.  I hope at some point he decides to return and release that.  I was majorly looking forward to trying it out.    I'm not trying to sound like an entitled shit, I just really enjoyed the mod and was excited for the expansion because MM1 has done really great work with mods.  There was posts explaining how things worked etc, no confusion or anything.  It was top tier work compared to some of the mods I've found harder to use from lack of explanations.  Ignoring quest markers  *shrug*

 

Of all his work I think Wartimes was my favorite.  It was unique and nothing else out there really is close to what it does.

[Karkhel]

Has anyone tried playing through wartimes without picking the alternative start scenario? I know its an option, just walk up and there is a dialogue for that I was just wondering if anything can break from that? Something I should look out for? Wanted to do like a start as a promising heroine, fail and go back home kind of scenario,

[Highborn]

2 hours ago, Karkhel said:

Has anyone tried playing through wartimes without picking the alternative start scenario? I know its an option, just walk up and there is a dialogue for that I was just wondering if anything can break from that? Something I should look out for? Wanted to do like a start as a promising heroine, fail and go back home kind of scenario,

I didn't try to run a complete wakthrough but I already started with another alternate start option with Wartimes loaded. Everything seemed to be working fine, the house and stuff was loaded into the game, etc. I don't see how it would break stuff.

[Balgin]

29 minutes ago, Highborn said:

I didn't try to run a complete wakthrough but I already started with another alternate start option with Wartimes loaded. Everything seemed to be working fine, the house and stuff was loaded into the game, etc. I don't see how it would break stuff.

You can start with an alternate start and walk into the house. Wartimes begins almost as normal. The only real difference is that you start Wartimes walking in the front door instead of waking up in your bedroom. The parents do treat you as if none of your previous gameplay happened 'though (as if you really are starting fresh).

[manafalls]

20 hours ago, Karkhel said:

Has anyone tried playing through wartimes without picking the alternative start scenario? I know its an option, just walk up and there is a dialogue for that I was just wondering if anything can break from that? Something I should look out for? Wanted to do like a start as a promising heroine, fail and go back home kind of scenario,

 

I never use alternate start any more. It works great. Play the story you want to play, go 'home' when you want to go home, and use the 'manual start' from the mcm when you want the actual quests to start. If you really want to invest in that story, you can easily patch the dialogue in xedit to reflect this - my character's starting journal only bears a passing resemblance to the text of the original.

[Karkhel]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I can tell this was used with new game in mind for sure, definitely balanced for it more, but sometimes I just want a different type of scenario for my save.