Wartimes - a daughter's tale LE (Alternate start scenario)

[safado]

12 hours ago, Sketchyheritage said:

Crashes whenever I start the game. Adapted the Nolvus modlist to feature Alternate Start, and downloaded all the required mods, but it just keeps on crashing sadly.  While I have disabled Unbound Alternate Start, it still doesn't want to collaborate with me. 

I checked the area around Whiterun to see whether the house could spawn, and there is enough room (albeit a big tree will probably protrude from the roof). 

 

CTD because wrong ZAP version is very common in Skyrim SE\AE because the page is poorly organized, and the files are not in the download button. 

 

Go to the ZAP SE page and make sure you install the ZAZ 8.0+ version at the bottom of the page.

 

Shortcut:

Spoiler

The packs of ZAP 8+ can be found here:

 

ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT 2023 : https://mega.nz/file/7IhyFKrQ#IfUw7ex6vg6h0to4x5fQ7IoEJpUqUmW130p7aazDNmg
ZAZ 8.0+ UUNP HDT 2023 : https://mega.nz/file/3FxmUQwB#fN7DSeTkL_yVssza0Hbxv1a7XdF9xul3gZyuEjVTp3A

 

ZAP 8+ equipment assets stuff bodyslide files for 3BAv2, you need one from the main links, preferable CBBE.

Recommend to also install the "ZAZ Patch" in the download button because it fixes a wild edit added by ZAP 8+ that mess up the rabbits and Foxes.

 

[Oyhuria]

If i try to end the questline by killing father i will be unable to remove or change outfits, anyone has a solution for that ?

[lcewolf]

@Monoman1

Hello Monoman,

 

I was wondering if you ever consider give an extra gold or change the amount of gold receive by the PC for the special task?

Because right now it bring more cash to do thing «Outside of the mod task» Like hunting/ killing bandit etc...

 

I think maybe it could be more incitatif to do it.

 

Exemple:

• The Party quest could receive «Tips» dependant of the service. (Serving beer/food few gold piece, Dance between 5 or 10 Gold. Naked serve beer/food between 5-10 gold. Fuck the Pc...)
• Bumbar dog. Second part inside the cage need more gold.(Going outside, in a cage fully naked in public fucking dog...)
• Horse Job part 2 and 3
• Service Soldier part # 2 a 3 (honestly i hope you will change the last part to put a gang bang scene with soldier)
• Etc...

 

The general idea is give a motivation to pick the «Worse or more perverse option» on the quest above. The amound of gold is very light right now and there is no motivation to go

help Skuvar,Bumbar,... even the soldier. The only avantage to do the perverse option is the amount time take to do the quest.

The forge is nice but since i never have any gold to bought item for making item with the forge it's not very usefull.

 

Since Father dosen't check the progression like the supply run or dosen't force the played to do them. They can be easily skip. Honestly doing thing in public without the helmet screw the pc reputation. If father dosen't force you to do it or you are not pay enough to do that there is no reason to do them.

 

I hope it is going to give you few idea.

 

Thank you for your time.

[lcewolf]

On 9/7/2023 at 11:14 PM, Oyhuria said:

If i try to end the questline by killing father i will be unable to remove or change outfits, anyone has a solution for that ?

Go inside your  chamber and wait the night. Get dressed then kill the bastard in is sleep. Be aware you won't be able to loot him or the house unfortuanally. The option to loot him as been remove and you cannot get back the money you give him anymore sadly ^^'.

Edited September 11, 2023 by lcewolf

[sockgolem]

Has anyone had any luck running Wartimes Tweak with Sexlab p+? I've been trying it out and it seems like it breaks apology sex. Going by debug messages it seems like the sexlab thread stalls on creation and just ends up timing out. Other sex scenes did generally seem to work, including from other mods, and swapping back to normal Sexlab seemed to fix it.

[Monoman1]

On 9/11/2023 at 8:08 PM, lcewolf said:

I was wondering if you ever consider give an extra gold or change the amount of gold receive by the PC for the special task?

Because right now it bring more cash to do thing «Outside of the mod task» Like hunting/ killing bandit etc...

Side tasks need a complete overhaul anyway so yea, small amounts of gold seems reasonable. Should be configurable really. But even with that I'm still don't think I'd be motivated to do them tbh. 

 

If the tasks were mandatory then I think the time aspect would weigh much more heavily. Spend 3 hours cooking a meal or 15 mins banging the soldiers etc...

[Monoman1]

On 9/16/2023 at 7:43 PM, sockgolem said:

Has anyone had any luck running Wartimes Tweak with Sexlab p+? I've been trying it out and it seems like it breaks apology sex. Going by debug messages it seems like the sexlab thread stalls on creation and just ends up timing out. Other sex scenes did generally seem to work, including from other mods, and swapping back to normal Sexlab seemed to fix it.

SLP+ is great and all but it's not yet a 'drop in' replacement for SL IMO. There's at least one function that just loops and breaks things. Might be fixed by now. I'm not sure. 

[manafalls]

A little PSA:

For those of you who don't want Aldo randomly jumping on you all the time from Aroused Creatures, instead of having to manually target him and then go into the MCM of Aroused Creatures and block him every new game, you can simply add the following to a Spid ini file and he will automatically be blocked on game load every time:

 

Faction = slac_AutoEngageBlockedFaction|pchsHomeDog

 

 

 

 

 

[H Bof]

I'm having an issue where I can no longer ask for time off, I was able to ask off once but now every time I get to the last line of the dialogue it ends abruptly and doesn't take any favor or give me the time off. Does anyone know a fix for this?

[Monoman1]

On 9/22/2023 at 7:02 AM, H Bof said:

I'm having an issue where I can no longer ask for time off, I was able to ask off once but now every time I get to the last line of the dialogue it ends abruptly and doesn't take any favor or give me the time off. Does anyone know a fix for this?

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=4007780

 

[rkd13a]

foound a couple weird things on a new character

 

1. I have two listings for Mara, both almost identically worded but one says 'young daughter' instead of daughter. The daughter one, mara sends me on, I sleep, wake up in the dungeon with a skeleton in the bed. The other listing, nothing happens, mara doesnt recognize it.

 

2. mother dies. I mean, she's going to anyway, but in this case, she starts exclaiming about Belethor and she up and expires, right there. I have to setstage to get past that because the step where she accepts the herbs never trigger. she will rest there for the rest of time, and father will occasionally exclaim "poor bastard, better off anyway"

 

any thoughts or anyone seen this before?

[Estceps]

@Monoman1 Big fan of your mods, SLS and Wartimes are staple installs. I had two ideas for the end-game that I don't think should be too difficult to implement, at least the first 1 or 2 bullet points, mainly because they rely on already implemented mods/features, and then later expanded upon. Let me know what you think.

 

Clothing License Restriction

• After hitting max outfit rank / naked outfit, having high depravity/submission, and you have reached full slut reputation (via either mask being revoked through the standard progression, or intentionally leaving the house without it on), father will refuse to purchase a clothing license for you, or dramatically increase the favor cost.
  • Additionally, if a clothing license isn't required via SLS, clothing enforcement will now be in effect while in Whiterun because father has conspired with the guards to keep you displaying yourself (and considering the player's reputation at this point, and the guards getting to see you naked and harass you, he could easily convince them to make an exception in the law for the player).
    • If this could be a Whiterun exclusive enforcement, that would make the most logical sense (and would fit with the already existing toll/escort exemption for Whiterun only), but if that's not feasible for whatever reason, then Wartimes toggling the setting in SLS, and potentially locking it to Always Required would be a decent stop-gap. If it's not possible, then refusal to purchase the clothing license at least leaves participating in the intended effect of the event to the player's discretion. 
    • If the player is somehow able to acquire a clothing license via another method (i.e. Devious Followers), having the guards disregard your license and still enforcing that behavior due to your reputation/at your father's behest while in Whiterun would be the cherry on top.
  • One last condition to consider would be if all of the above have been met, and you're a cumslut/pregnant + a milk maid, the toll gate guards would require a blowjob+swallow/drink cum/drink lactaid to leave the gate (up to once or more a day), and wouldn't accept anything else to leave. Toll evasion would result in father hearing about your disobedience and punishing you.

Public Whore/Whore License

• If SLS and Public Whore is installed, father will gift you a whore license. This would happen after being pregnant, being a cumslut, high depravity/submission, and finishing the Supply Run questline/slut reputation, since father wouldn't need to worry about another man knocking you up, and whoring you out is what he has been working up to this whole time.
  • Having max yps-piercing level could be a potential requirement, since that event is time consuming and takes you out of Whiterun, potentially triggering PW town restrictions.
  • Each confirmed client you serve would get you 1 or more favor upon reporting in to the Thane.
  • Doing overtime clients would reward bonus favor.
  • This would be most simply implemented if PW is set to client mode and player doesn't handle gold, because father is renting you out to the city and is taking his cut in gold, while paying you in favor, leaving you responsible for reporting your progress to the PW Thane. Clients that don't count towards your quota don't reward favor, since father didn't get paid.
  • If PW is in gold mode with either gold handling enabled or disabled, then you could potentially pay your way out of the quota and avoid any whoring, with no easy way to implement awarding favor. One possible solution is to award a set amount of favor for every X gold turned in.
    • This method might not be as thematic, since you could potentially pay your way out of PW via saved cash, selling loot, adventuring, etc., rather than whoring yourself out like father intended, but by this point those options might not be viable under certain mods/mcm settings.
  • If PW is handling gold in client mode, things get a bit more complicated since PW hands out punishments that take up a significant amount of time if you go to report clients and you don't have the cash on hand to make up for any clients that stiffed you, which could push you over the timelimit for some chores, or lock you in restraints, which might make doing some chores/fashion requirements difficult.
  • Taking this concept a little further, father could kick you out at night to do your whoring, locking the door behind you. The door would unlock in the morning (whenever tasks become available to be assigned), and father could check in on your progress (similar to reporting your progress to PW's Thanes), offer you skooma to offset your fatigue, and have you continue your daily chores until he kicks you out again at night until you finish the PW quest (any leftover whore license time would be yours to do with as you wish).
    • I'm not sure how feasible it would be to have father be the person you report your progress/turn in your gold to, but if that is possible then that could open up some fun events when reporting to father in the morning based off of how many clients was told you took in a day (bonus favor, cum potions, skooma, father getting really turned on if you did well, etc., or favor loss and punishments if you slacked off), and you wouldn't have to walk all the way to Dragon's Reach to report your progress all the time if father served the same purpose each morning. If he only talks to you about your quota once in the morning, you could also have him try to coerce you into going into overtime instead of ending the PW quest in exchange for extra favor.
  • After having completed the gifted whore license, you would no longer be allowed to ask for a curfew license, and this scenario would then become available as a task (granting favor just for requesting the task in addition to per client).
    • A chance on taking this task, your father takes your inventory, ties you up and ships you off to one of the other major cities to be their public whore for while. Restricted to remain within the city, you can sleep in the kennels. Potentially have the kennel master provide supplies similar to the deal you can make with him in SLS.
    • Additionally, a modified version of this could be used as an alternative outcome for failing the time-off game (you'd still get the time-off after failing the game, but you'd be assigned a PW quota where you can't leave the town until you finish, clients don't reward favor, but after finishing the PW quest any remaining time-off is yours).
      • I know that Coffee's Task Extension for Submissive Lola has a way to assign a custom client count and duration independent from the PW MCM settings, so if variable client/duration scaling to requested time-off is possible, that'd be the perfect outcome.
  • If, however, PW is set to endless mode, then a lifetime whore license would be awarded, and the previously described features would be your life moving forward (with the nightly lockout mechanic going into effect until you hit some weekly quota, but the endless PW mode would still persist).
  • Having to juggle finishing your quota, sleeping in the kennel if your Fertility Mode health gets too low due to fatigue (or if you want to avoid more Skooma Whore addiction), and doing your chores during the day would be pretty challenging, but entirely possible with default PW quota settings.

I've been playing with most/all of the recommended mods with Wartimes, and the recommended timescale/MCM settings, and I feel like both of these events are appropriate for the late game of the mod, even at their basic level of implementation. The clothing license restriction is just taking your father's intentions one step further, is already possible by manually tweaking MCM settings, and is just an immersive way to close those off-ramps, and making you more dependent on father's favor than gold.

 

At the basic level of whore license/PW integration, assuming client mode and no gold handling, this would be a week-long task, optionally repeatable, for extra favor. I've been playing this way so far by just asking for a curfew license with PW in client mode, no gold control, no approach (it's kind of buggy), and default settings. If you made 1-2 favor per client, and a bonus favor on overtime/extension, you'd be making more gold in total if you convert all that favor into gold than if you had taken the 30% payment you get only while in overtime. Also, since you're being paid in favor, it's something that father than give and take away at a whim, further tying you to him rather than some other source of money.

 

Considering the PW integration would happen when things are spiraling out of control, and in my experience winning the time-off game is basically impossible late-game, having a way where you can either lean into being daddy's favor-whore (in addition to chores), or getting some "free time" while still being manipulated into being his money-maker (without earning favor per client) offers the player a way get what they want (favor/gold/time-off) while still sinking deeper into father's clutches. With both of these active, the effects would also play into each other, with having to be naked anyway for PW fitting the premise of the clothing license restriction, nakedness persisting even after PW is over, and having to pay the "toll" moving in and out of Whiterun to report your clients. 

 

Even if none of this gets implemented, the basics of these ideas are already possible via MCM settings, so I've already got most of what I want. It would just be neat if these things were tied to favor after certain events progress, and they would open up some reward/punishment scenarios that can take away that valuable favor, depending on how well you can follow the new rules.

[rkd13a]

also, what version of YPS does Wartimes 10.3 work with?

 

my YPS loads, affects my hair etc, but according to Help pchsyps its not seeing it, its set to 0

[safado]

36 minutes ago, rkd13a said:

also, what version of YPS does Wartimes 10.3 work with?

 

my YPS loads, affects my hair etc, but according to Help pchsyps its not seeing it, its set to 0

 

The latest version of YPS 6.5.x in the SkyrimLE section has the necessary feature for Wartimes 10.3 and SLS 0.685. It will have a version for LE or SE/AE.  You need to download the assets for your version of the game (yps-SoundTexturePackage 230728 XX) and then YPS version.  YPS "with version number" is the mod plugin and scripts with compatibility to LE and SE/AE.  Monomans patches are included in the mod now. No need to patch, it will break if you do.

The YPS in the SkyrimSE section is obsolete now.

 

Edited September 29, 2023 by safado

[rkd13a]

On 9/28/2023 at 6:46 PM, safado said:

 

The latest version of YPS 6.5.x in the SkyrimLE section has the necessary feature for Wartimes 10.3 and SLS 0.685. It will have a version for LE or SE/AE.  You need to download the assets for your version of the game (yps-SoundTexturePackage 230728 XX) and then YPS version.  YPS "with version number" is the mod plugin and scripts with compatibility to LE and SE/AE.  Monomans patches are included in the mod now. No need to patch, it will break if you do.

The YPS in the SkyrimSE section is obsolete now.

 

thank you very much. Through my reading I found that too.

 

problem I am running into is.. Wartimes doesnt see it there. it says its not loaded, even though its running, so trying to figure out what tag is missing

[Topforest]

On 8/4/2021 at 3:33 AM, Silvain said:

For the SE people. I'm currently not playing Skyrim so test at your own risk. ^^

 

Wartimes 9.2: Wartimes Tweak v9.2 SE (24-Nov-2021).7z

Wartimes 9.2 Voicepack (by Iroha) repacked for SE: Wartimes 9.2 Voicepack by Iroha SE.bsa

The voicepack should be working fine I think. I extracted and repacked it with CathedralOptimizer. 

SLS: Sexlab Survival 0.674 BETA (27-Oct-2021) SE.7z

 

Since nobody complained about the last SE SLS conversion I'll only provide the form44 version this time around.

 

 

Wartimes 10.3: Wartimes Tweak v10.3 (15-Mar-2022) SE.7z

Wartimes 10 Voice Pack from Inoha (https://www.loverslab.com/topic/149018-wartimes-a-daughters-tale-le-alternate-start-scenario/?do=findComment&comment=3679944) : pchsWartime Monoman Fix V10.0_Voice_Pack_SE.7z

Should be working, dunno if the dummy .esp is needed for SE, but it is flagged as .esl so it won't take any space up anyhow.

If you - for some reason like playing Skyrim VR - need to save the .esp slot you can just rename the .bsa to "pchsWartimes.bsa" and it should load just fine.

 

SLS: Sexlab Survival 0.685 BETA (14-Mar-2022) SE.7z

 

SLS Sunhelm Extension by DisarmingSnail (build on 0.685): 

 

 

Note: Dunno if there are new .json files that need converting for SE in new Wartimes version. Could someone do a quick test to see if everything works fine for those conversions? It's been a while so I don't know if I forgot something. Gonna leave the old versions up here till I get confirmation.

 

Since there seems to be some kind of problem with WT 10.3 somebody asked me to upload 10.0 again and here it is. I don't have 10.1 so I can't provide that version.

Wartimes Tweak v10.0 (18-Feb-2022) SE.7z 3.72 MB · 1,829 downloads

 

 

 

A little report with a few mini instructions. SLS (0.685) and Wartimes 10.3 work with Skyrim VR.

 

  Reveal hidden contents

You need the VR versions of all the SLS requirements:

 

- Get Papyrus Util VR (under Miscellaneous files): https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13048?tab=files

- Get Powerofthree's Tweaks SE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/51073

- Get Powerofthree's VR Tweaks and overwrite the SE version: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59510

- Get the regular Papyrus Extender for SE: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22854

- Get Papyrus Extender VR (this replaces the DLL): https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/58296

- Get the experimental Simply Knock DLL (under Optional Files) and overwrite the original mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/24297?tab=files

- Get your relevant Sexlab Framework Patches here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/132489-skyrim-sexlab-and-vr/ (personally I quit using SLSO cause I never got it to work without everything spinning my sanity into the abyss but theoretically it should work)

 

- Make absolutely sure that Papyrus Util VR is overwriting everything. Simply Knock as well as Campfire (when playing with Frostfall) have old versions bundled into them which makes ordering these mods a pain in the ass.

 

Optional but highly recommended Papyrus Tweaks:

- Get VR Address Library: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/58101

- Get Papyrus Tweaks and see if the experimental Papyrus function works for your mod setup: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77779

-> papyrus go brrrr

 

Also very much recommended:

- VoiceMakro https://www.voicemacro.net/

 

My VR Headset (PICO 4) has a built in mic. I kind of expect other VR Headsets to have that as well. With VoiceMakro you can set specific phrases to certain key presses.

For SFW example: I use every imaginable iteration of "hello" for the "e" button (to activate NPCs with a greeting) and every variant for "goodbye" for "esc" to abort conversations.

 

Buuut the most exciting thing is that this works with custom Mod hotkeys aswell. I currently can use voice recognition to activate the SLS All in One menue, the different poses/idles Wartimes needs and several other mod features that just didn't were accessible before because VR just doesn't have enough keys to map.

 

 

Is there a way to enable the wheel key in v10.3 without recompiling the mod? The mcm menu of the v10.3 lacks quite a few features of the old one. I tried to change it myself but trying to compile the mod led me down a rabbit hole I have yet to reappear from. And if I remember correctly quite a few features are only accessible through the wheel otherwise I'd do without for now.

[Silvain]

3 hours ago, Topforest said:

 

Is there a way to enable the wheel key in v10.3 without recompiling the mod? The mcm menu of the v10.3 lacks quite a few features of the old one. I tried to change it myself but trying to compile the mod led me down a rabbit hole I have yet to reappear from. And if I remember correctly quite a few features are only accessible through the wheel otherwise I'd do without for now.

 

Hmm if I remember correctly the wheel should just work. At least I used to use it for a lot of stuff (room cleaning, poses, etc.). Dunno what the requirements for it to show up are though. 

[Topforest]

17 hours ago, Silvain said:

 

Hmm if I remember correctly the wheel should just work. At least I used to use it for a lot of stuff (room cleaning, poses, etc.). Dunno what the requirements for it to show up are though. 

I reverted to 10.0 for now as hot keys often don't work for my setup if I don't reassign them.

[Silvain]

1 hour ago, Topforest said:

I reverted to 10.0 for now as hot keys often don't work for my setup if I don't reassign them.

 

Sorry, no idea. Maybe conflicting hotkeys or missing a requirement? UIExtension? PO3 Papyrus Extender? I don't have a modded skyrim currently so I can't test anything and never had that problem. 

[Oyhuria]

is there any walkthrough for this mod? i feel like along the way i lose alot of content

[kapibar]

@Monoman1 this has never happened to me before, but I guess it's first time for everything. The dialogue to get limbless mother doesn't work - the dialogue window closes after the part when father "looks suspiciously aroused." Any solutions?

 

Edit: I just noticed that cost of mother's healing is still @ 100. So something's definitely off.

Edited October 12, 2023 by kapibar

[bodeart]

2 hours ago, kapibar said:

@Мономан1со мной такого еще никогда не случалось, но, думаю, такое происходит впервые. Диалог, чтобы получить мать без конечностей, не работает - окно диалога закрывается после той части, когда отец "выглядит подозрительно возбужденным". Есть решения?

 

Редактировать: я только что заметил, что стоимость исцеления матери все еще равна 100. Так что что-то определенно не так.

Install the Amputator

[kapibar]

12 minutes ago, bodeart said:

Install the Amputator

The amputator is up and running as always. First thing I checked TBH.

[Monoman1]

16 hours ago, kapibar said:

@Monoman1 this has never happened to me before, but I guess it's first time for everything. The dialogue to get limbless mother doesn't work - the dialogue window closes after the part when father "looks suspiciously aroused." Any solutions?

 

Edit: I just noticed that cost of mother's healing is still @ 100. So something's definitely off.

Help  pchsAmpInstalled  =  ?

 

There may be a hole in the logic. Particularly if you enter that dialogue via 'I want to pay for the cure. ' instead of 'I want to get Ma's cure... but I don't have the gold.'

On 10/9/2023 at 10:16 PM, Oyhuria said:

is there any walkthrough for this mod? i feel like along the way i lose alot of content

Not really. Most important is that you enter 'indentured servitude' in the beginning. You can bypass most of the mod by behaving like a brat in the intro.  

 

Edited October 12, 2023 by Monoman1

[Monoman1]

On 10/9/2023 at 12:48 PM, Topforest said:

I reverted to 10.0 for now as hot keys often don't work for my setup if I don't reassign them.

Only issue with the key is that it is not enabled until you enter indentured servitude. Next version has a button in the mcm to force enable it.